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... topic: 3329 3-Way Turnout posted: 22 Sep 2018 12:12 from: R.I.Lamb Hello, My first posting on here having just returned to Templot and forgotton seemingly most of what I once knew! I have been trying to progress with the above turnout (not the manual approach) and have fallen at the first hurdle! Having followed the steps to arrive at the the 3-way but not undertaken any adjustment to wing rails etc how do you proceed to work on the combined template in 'current' and not each of the components. I need to move a wing rail (which I can do by bringing the appropriate segment to 'current' and using the mouse.) My problem is keeping the component parts together. An elementary failure to grasp the basics I am sure but the grey matter isn't up to par these days. Robert posted: 22 Sep 2018 14:09 from: Martin Wynne Hi Robert, Welcome to Templot Club. If you have been away from Templot for a while you may not know that Templot can ...
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... 17 Aug 2010 02:28 from: Templot User Hallo Martin. I have a EM layout based on a place called Pateley Bridge up in the Yorkshire Dales, N.E.R. territory. The layout is basically 14ft. long and is entered at both ends with single line track leading into a "fan" of running lines/ loops and such like. After moving out here I re-assembled the base boards and track but I still would like to make the curves take the locos and running stock smoother. The re-adjustment must be very slight but when done I will have much smoother running. My idea is to purchase Templot to produce the curves, which mostly have turnouts in them, and lay the print-outs onto the existing track so that I can see where to make the adjustments. Is this a reasonable idea and as a learner will I be able to cope with the technology. Has Templot got plenty of tutorials and is there a "fan club" to consult? Now to the practical side of ordering. I have ...
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... topic: 145 Track Clearances- slewing posted: 29 Aug 2007 07:13 from: Tim Morrow The June 2007 edition of Railway Modeller contains an article "NBR point and signal operation". A comment is made regarding clearances between structures, such as 'signal stanchions', point rodding, etc. and track location. As I construct operating point rodding, does Templot have the means of adjusting the track separation at those appropriate areas following setting the 'adjacent track centre to centre spacing' located under "Geometry" for the overall plan. With a particular project I am working on, which includes a double slip, point rodding is required to run to all the points. In one group, containing five rods, It would be good to be able to increase the track spacing to accommodate this width along this length. posted: 29 Aug 2007 12:34 from: Martin Wynne Tim Morrow wrote: As I construct operating point rodding, does Templot have the means of adjusting the track separation at those appropriate areas following setting the 'adjacent track centre ...
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... crossing. The problem I am having, is creating both Turnout road crossing rails with same radii, so that they feed smoothly into the Vee crossings and share the same switch. Please can help? Best regardsKim Jackman posted: 16 Jan 2013 21:51 from: Martin Wynne Hi Kim, Sorry, I don't quite follow that. Can you post a screenshot or attach your .box file? Martin. posted: 17 Jan 2013 14:38 from: Martin Wynne Hi Kim, Do you mean something like this? 2_170931_240000000.png Adjust the crossing entry straight (SHIFT+ F11 mouse action) on the wider turnout until the radial end marks are coincident (ringed yellow). This is just a quick unfinished trial -- note you also need a K-crossing (boxed yellow). I started tidying up the check rails. Here's the output, showing the FB rail foot edges: 2_171232_200000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 17 Jan 2013 19:12 from: kimstation Hi Martin,That is perfect thanks and as always, the information that I ...
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... topic: 2139 Fitting a turnout to existing curves posted: 14 Jan 2013 12:49 from: Martin Wynne I've just posted this in response to a topic on RMweb. I don't remember posting about this on here before, so for those who haven't found it (in Templot2 only) here are some notes. Usually you would start with a turnout and make the branch track, and then adjust the branch track to the required curve. But sometimes the branch track already exists, and you need to find a turnout to fit. This method gets you close, but will usually require some final adjustments to be strictly prototypical. 1. Start with the two curves, one in the control template, one as a background template. For best results have the easier curve in the control template. The curves don't have to be exactly tangential as here, but you will generally get better results if they are at least close to being so (for a curviform V-crossing)*: 2_140731_530000000.png 2. Give Templot a sporting chance by inserting ...
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... find that someone has already done your prototype and is willing to share their Templot files. So it would be worth asking on here about that first. See this topic for some details about how to customize Templot for a specific prototype. It includes a downloadable video: message 2182 Note that the video was done using Templot version 091c and is 5 years old. Some of the menu items have changed in the current version, and extra functions are now available. For example check rails (guard rails) can now be easily adjusted by mouse action. And flat-bottom rails can be printed with the foot edge lines on the templates. If you have only just started with Templot, I would recommend becoming familiar with some of the basics before attempting a full prototype customization. regards, Martin. posted: 25 Feb 2013 02:50 from: Laidlaym Thanks Martin, I have made some progress and have avoided created VR specific turnouts for the moment. I am battling to create a double cross-over with 45mm track centres in 16.5. I ...
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... permutations, and only you know what you want. When you click "make crossover" Templot automatically leaves a space in the timbering on one side, to remind you that some timber shoving will be needed to extend long timbers across from the other side. It's quite quick to do -- just click on the timber's number and then press the L key (lengthen) a few times. Each press adds 6" (scale) to the length. If you wish, every individual timber and sleeper in Templot can be adjusted for exact size and position, but normally it's only necessary to adjust a few of them where they conflict. Here's an example of a printed template from Templot, showing long timbers and the results of some timber shoving: long_timber_shoving.png regards, Martin. posted: 2 Feb 2009 13:44 from: Martin Lloyd What would the maximum length likely to be for such timbers? They were obviously an expensive item. Martin (Lloyd) posted: 2 Feb 2009 14:40 from: Martin Wynne Martin Lloyd wrote: What ...
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... a turnout on an existing transition curve template you can simply insert a turnout in the template. Then roam it along to wherever you want it, not necessarily within the transition zone. You can then if you wish split off any approach or exit track as separate templates. Or if it is special custom turnout you can use the align functions instead to align it over the transition template. Or if the turnout position came first, you can change it to a transition curve template, extend the length of it, and then adjust the position of the transition zone markers beyond the turnout or change radii as required. It's all much easier than what you seem to be doing. A screenshot would be a big help. regards, Martin. posted: 23 Mar 2014 02:06 from: pointo1d Hiya Martin, Sorry for the delay in replying... not had access to my Templot laptop 'til now. Anyway, PFA a screenshot of a simplified situation whereby I've created a transition curve from the straight to the curved section and put the notch ...
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... , and then lengthen it back as needed. It's all in the? help notes on the shove timber dialog. I spend hours writing that stuff, but hardly anyone ever seems to read it. I don't mind a bit when folks ask how to do things, but I do get irritated when folks announce to the world what Templot can't do, when it is not true. regards, Martin. posted: 23 Mar 2014 21:09 from: PeterD Thanks for your reply Martin and also your advice on how to adjust timber length on either side. I am sorry that my query was interpreted as- Templot cannot do this. I am going up a very steep learning curve and appreciate any assistance from the more knowledgeable people on the forum. Your program is terrific but I have not used it for many years and have realised I had not used it properly at all. I am keen to learn more and try to understand what I am shown and why it works. In time, my queries will reduce. Many thanks for all ...
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... 16:45 from: leswaters It has been a while but I have a new question which I hope has not been asked recently. My apologies if it is a dumb one. I have spent some time drawing a large O gauge layout on Templot which I enjoyed doing very much. However, I am planning on printing this out very soon and a thought has occurred to me. I have built some 1600 X 1600mm baseboards but I do not want a baseboard join where a turnout is supposed to be. I have adjusted the grid spacing to 1600 X 1600mm and there will be some conflict with baseboard joins. I would like to move the grid around to get the best fit before I print the plan. Is this possible to do or does it mess things up? If it is possible can some kind soul take me through the menu options to complete this task? I am using Templot 2 currently. Thank you in advance for any help. Regards Les posted: 27 Jun 2015 17:31 from: Martin Wynne leswaters wrote: ...
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... 7 1/4 using 38.1mm /ft and a gauge of 184.15 and then the 5" using custom A again 38.1 mm/ft but a gauge of 127mm. In order to have a common rail for mixed gauge, you must 1. use the same scale for both, and 2. use the same switch size for both. I suggest you change the B-6 to a 12ft-6, matching the 12ft-7. Change the 12ft-7 to a curviform V-crossing. Use F9 to adjust the V-crossing angle on it until the turnout curves align, and the F.P. marker is on the underlying curve. Then use CTRL+ F12 to shorten the turnout road exit to match the crossing entry straight mark on the underlying 12ft-6 template. Using the TEXITP peg position, attach a bit of straight plain track to provide the remaining length of exit rail. On the other hand, if you decide that you didn't want to use a curviform V-crossing (for easier large-scale manufacture) ...
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... so we need to ask the same questions about which wheels you will be using, in order to set a suitable flangeway gap. On the face of it you would do better to adopt the S2 flangeway gap rather than N gauge, see the 2mm Association at: http://www.2mm.org.uk But you can't do that with ordinary N gauge wheels. I think it will probably be necessary to create a custom switch, rather than using one of the pre-set switches based on standard-gauge practice, and make some adjustments to the crossing. At present your turnout has a very sharp radius concentrated in a short space in the centre. I will have a look at this for you shortly. regards, Martin. posted: 26 Jan 2015 12:37 from: TPP Hi Martin Thank you so much for your reply People have done this before- 15" in 7mm scale and they call it 09 ie 9mm gauge but to 0 scale. That said it seems that most of them are simply using Peco 009 trackwork- maybe with a ...
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... 34 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, Normally when using the F5 mouse action, Templot changes the switch size to keep it a sensible size for use with the changing V-crossing angle. If you right-click while the F5 mouse action is active you can click lock switch to override this and prevent the switch changing. The menu item is disabled when the F5 mouse action is not active. All of which is completely out of date and irrelevant, because you should no longer be using the F5 mouse action to adjust the middle V-crossings of tandem turnouts. It is now much easier to use the F9 mouse action instead, which doesn't affect the switch. Furthermore, you may not have a switch to lock. For the middle V-crossing in a tandem turnout it is now usually much more convenient to use a partial irregular half-diamond or a gaunt turnout template, neither of which have a switch. All of which illustrates how out-of-date the tandem video is. I have more than once been on ...
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... ends while you do it). Hi Martin. Sorry to be a bother, I feel a right numptie. I've been trying to replicate your 3 transition curves, i've done easement from straight to first curve; make mirror on peg; S-curve transition from first curve to second curve; make mirror on peg; easement from second curve to straight. This gives me a straight to easement, S-Curve, easement to Straight. Thats OK, but the second straight isn't in the right place so i then adjust the s-curve (delete to control) but the easement to straight section gets left behind. I'm obviously missing some fundamental understanding of how templot works. Can you explain 'Use the make transition functions to create the central S-curve (remembering to move the outer pegs to the curved ends while you do it).' Should i be creating the two easement curves first then connecting them with the S-curve? If so i can't find a way of joining the S-curve to the second easement curve ...
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... some old American ready made code 100 turnout rail parts, which will be ideal for saving time. Just need to firm up a few areas before the soldering iron comes out posted: 1 Dec 2014 17:29 from: Hayfield Martin Thanks, most of the locos are on old RTR chassis, though some do have Romford wheels. Most may even have flangeless centre drivers (I also have a selection of Romford flangeless drivers. I think at worst I could possibly drop in a straight turnout on the outer curve and just adjust the plain track to suite. I think I will build the station throat first then see what happens after. I will be left with the outer triangle of space in the corner, I guess I could squeeze in an extra short siding or two, just to make use of the space posted: 1 Dec 2014 17:41 from: Martin Wynne Hayfield wrote: As its a retro layout I am building it in code 100 rail Hi John, For retro handbuilt track you should be using code 95 bullhead. I ...
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... topic: 1869 Wrong action from menu item posted: 13 Mar 2012 23:07 from: Andrew Fendick Hi Martin, I'm using Templot Dev version 0.98.a; OS is Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit; on AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile processor. When working with a turnout template as the control and selecting the menu item Action> mouse actions: control/ geometry> adjust plain track length F4, the F3 (approach length) action is triggered. I can recreate by just starting Templot and using the default turnout control template that is set when you do not reload any previous work. The 'adjust overal turnout length F4' menu item and the 'adjust approach length F3' menu item both work as expected. posted: 14 Mar 2012 00:18 from: Martin Wynne Andrew Fendick wrote: When working with a turnout template as the control and selecting the menu item Action> mouse actions: control/ geometry> adjust plain track length F4, the F3 (approach length) action is triggered. Hi Andrew, Many thanks for finding that. Those ...
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... http://00-sf.org.uk and add 2mm to the relevant dimensions. But note that by default, Templot draws the templates with a proper full-width blunt nose: 2_160721_340000000.png This means that if you make a sharp vee, and align the rails correctly to such a template, the vee nose will be overhanging the "A" timber in fresh air between the timbers, aligned to the FP intersection mark. Which again looks awful. If you want to use sharper vees, you need to print new templates after adjusting the blunt nose width at real> V-crossing options> customize V-crossing> blunt nose... menu item -- click the? info button on the dialog to read more about this. Templot will then adjust the timbering to ensure that the nose is still supported on a timber. In the process the turnout will shorten slightly. This will leave small gaps between existing templates on an existing track plan, but it won't affect the alignments. 2_232021_190000000.png Here on these overlaid 1:8 crossings you can ...
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... though it will work for 4mm too. The method for double slips would be to extend the wire to the other tiebar. 142_270435_100000000.jpg 142_020821_520000000.jpg Secondly a type for either 4mm or 7mm scale. For double slips/multi-gauge etc the tiebar is extended with additional fixings 142_270435_100000001.jpg For central operation a wire loop can be attached. In all cases it's invariably easier and safer to apply the soldering iron to the point blade and let the solder run, otherwise you risk unsoldering the tiebar assembly. It's not too difficult to re-adjust re-solder if you do manage to do this though. PeterD wrote: Thank you Stephen. Check rail chairs. I had thought about using partial chairs for the check rails but thought that opening out the gap from 0.8mm to 1mm by filing the check rail side of the chair and using a gauge to confirm the gap would be easier and more accurate. Last edited on 27 Jan 2012 09:52 by Stephen Freeman posted: 27 Jan 2012 10:48 from: PeterD Thank you Dave and Dellboy I shall ...
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... most of the way there: 2_271728_130000000.png If you want a better result: 2. click this mysterious button marked: It changes to:. This changes the angles to reference from the template datum instead of from square-on to the main road. Then click on the number of the timber which you want to shove (not the timber itself). 3. Click in the twist readout box, and then enter 0 (zero) on the dialog which appears. Repeat for as many other timbers as you wish to adjust. Or depending on the alignment of the turnout you may want to enter some other angle, say 1.5 degrees, for all the timbers. If you set them all to the same angle they will all be parallel (after clicking the button). regards, Martin. posted: 28 Oct 2015 05:55 from: Hayfield Martin Thank you, forgot to press the divide symbol posted: 28 Oct 2015 18:19 from: Martin Wynne Hello again John, My apologies. I forgot to mention that now in ...
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... GOG-F, though you might pick a set up second-hand. posted: 13 Jan 2012 10:14 from: LSWRArt Martin While I fully understand your point that gauge widening can be essential on points, as much as on plain track curves, and is essential in S-7, S4... on small radius curves, would you agree with an earlier comment that, as GOG-F already has overscale flangeway gaps and fairly loose tolerances, there is no need to gauge widen, or to adjust the check rail gap? The reason that I asked is that I was going to use David Rayner's combined running rail/ check rail chairs which absolutely fix the gap to the GOG-F standard (1.75mm gap to the running rail), but I understand that will mean I cannot then use gauge widening (on main line minimum radius will be 1200mm, yard 1100mm with 0-6 -0, 4-4 -2, 4-4 -0 tank locos). Thanks Arthur posted: 13 Jan 2012 ...
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