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... slip and 3-way points. I was hoping someone on the list could help out and I need to push one with it, plus after the year I have just had I need a lift and start building. There are 2 4-way points and 1 double slip. Thanks Stuart Mitchell Attachment: attach_725_1015_Stuart_Mitchell.bo x 231 posted: 17 Jan 2010 16:19 from: Phil O If you are using version 0.91c the tutorials for these items are available on the videos and tutorial page of this forum. 3 way& tandem turnouts+ single slip. Times two for a double slip. Cheers Phil Last edited on 17 Jan 2010 16:20 by Phil O Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Rmweb 2010 Layout Challenge layout about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top ...
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... topic: 1019 Single Outside Slip posted: 18 Jan 2010 23:09 from: alangdance Can anybody help me get started with building a single outside slip. I have no idea where to start. I have been using Templte for a little while now and have manage a single slip and 3 way tandem using the videos without much problems but do not now where to start on this outside slip. \doed anybody have a box file I could use or just some starting points to get me started. I am working in 00-BF. Any help would be most helpful. Alan posted: 19 Jan 2010 01:07 from: Martin Wynne alangdance wrote: Can anybody help me get started with building a single outside slip. I have no idea where to start. Hi Alan, An outside single slip is essentially two overlapping turnouts. The basic alignments can be derived quite quickly. Here's a bit of Jing video showing that (give it a moment to download): Getting an exact crossing angle requires some experimenting with the crossing angles ...
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... well. regards, Martin. posted: 6 Feb 2011 15:59 from: Martin Wynne Martin Wynne wrote: Templot uses the notch itself for some functions, and leaves it in place because you may find it useful in that location yourself. Either immediately, or more likely by cycling back to it later, for example after a group has been linked to the notch. There's a video showing such re-use, I will dig out the link shortly. Here it is, a bit of Jing video showing a tandem turnout from a file being added and linked in to a track plan. Notice a couple of tricks in the video -- you can use F7 snapping as a quick way to get the notch on a free end of a background template; and you can then use the cycle notch function to move it back there after linking the group to it: Allow a few seconds for the video to download. regards, Martin. posted: 7 Feb 2011 11:49 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Hi Martin javascript:emoticon( ...
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... pages); Rails, rail joints, fishplates (incl insulated), expansion allowance, check rails in plain track, sleepers& sleeper spacing, chairs, keys, chair fastenings, ballast, life of P-W materials, measuring wear of rails Section 2- Switches& Crossing (52 pages); Introduction, switches, switch planing, switch checking, common crossings, flexible wing or spring crossings, standard leads, obtuse crossings, fixed diamonds& switch diamonds, single& double slips, 3-throw turnouts, tandem turnouts, scissors crossovers, timbering, measurement of unit angles, 2-level junctions, trap points& sand drags, catch points, chairs, switch operating mechs, switch heating, layout S&C work. Section 3- Modern Practice- Plain Line (20 pages); generally an expansion of section 1, with reference to continuously welded rail, modern sleepers, chairs& fasteners, etc. Section 4- Modern Practice- Switches& Crossings (16 pages); generally an expansion of section 2. Section ...
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205. Dock Road
... topic: 1260 Dock Road posted: 2 Oct 2010 18:05 from: phileakins A while ago I introduced a design for Blue Town, base on Sheerness Dockyard post- 1883 track plan. Having thought long and hard I have decided to go back a few years to a simpler layout (no tandem points!) which is attached for your comments please. The main line is laid to the LCDR standard track for the period to 1882 with 21 foot rails with 8 sleepers per length. However, the branch opened in 1860 using 21 foot rails but only 6 sleepers per length and I have retained this track in the sidings. I have rather guessed how the points might have appeared but have retained longer sleepers under the crossing for ease of building. Further information much appreciated though. The main line will be covered with 'top ballast' as was normal at the time so the point sleepering (I've used 10in wide sleepers rather than 12in timbers) will not be seen. Until the sketchboard appears.... the loco shed is on ...
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... When the penny drops it's a breeze. Hope that helps some, Cheers Richard posted: 10 Oct 2010 08:27 from: Phil O Hi Nigel For shove timbers in 0.91c select the REAL Menu drop down box and SHOVE TIMBERS is the bottom one. you then click on the number adjacent to the timber to manipulate it. IE. remove, lenghten, shorten, twist, etc. Cheers Phil posted: 10 Oct 2010 12:18 from: BeamEnds Hi Nigel, I've just worked through the three-way (tandem) tutorial, and I think I've found your problem. Assuming you mean by the 'timbers in the middle' the ones associated with the third set of points that are added to get the extra V, then I think you have missed a step- the timbers should have been removed using "Real->Timbering->No Timbering" just after the template for this third set was created. It doesn't matter, just do as I suggested above and they will be gone. Then you can use "Real- ...
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... to the 1in-1ft version which was in three parts, and needed a lot of working with to make a suitable plan. I still found the 1:9 impossible. On the plan it's ended up as a 1:10-ish, which works well with the rest of the layout of Manchester Central. [The attached version is a mirror image just in case anyone is wondering.] Any comments/feedback, as usual much appreciated. Next is the "Special Layout" on the station approach- mainly tandems, slips, diamonds and B8.5 with a 7.5 diamond through the middle. Attachment: attach_846_1202_clc_lmsr_tripleTur nout.box 383 Last edited on 15 Aug 2010 14:08 by richard_t Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Share and show> CLC/ LMSR Triple Turnout about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for ...
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... ruff sketch of a three way I am trying to make could someone give me a guide how to do it or if someone is willing to do it for me, that would be fantastic. Attached is a sketch of it, Thanks in advance Josh Attachment: attach_669_961_Point0001.jpg 514 posted: 23 Oct 2009 16:58 from: richard_t What track standards/Scale/etc? And Martin's video, http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/3_way_tandem.exe, is probably where we all start out with a 3-way/tandem. Last edited on 23 Oct 2009 17:00 by richard_t posted: 23 Oct 2009 17:01 from: Josh C sorry its 00 finescale posted: 24 Oct 2009 09:50 from: Josh C Had a try last night, watching the video but failed miserably So any help would be much appreciated. posted: 24 Oct 2009 18:41 from: Alan Turner is this what you had in mind? the 3rd crossing nose needs to be put in but I usualy do this by drawing rather than faffing ...
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... . May I first of all say what a good program it is. The only thing is I can't seem to find out how I can get a template for a formation such as a double slip or possibly a scissors crossover. Maybe I am trying to run before I can walk!, can you give me any help, I model in 'O' gauge. Yours hoping Roger C posted: 17 Jan 2011 10:22 from: Martin Wynne Hi Roger, Thanks for your kind words. Formations such as slips and tandem turnouts are created by overlaying partial templates: slip_road.png In this way you can create such formations in great variety of different sizes, angles, aligned into curved track, etc. As explained in my order confirmation letter, when you are ready to try such designs it is better to upgrade to the Pug version 091c of Templot. This fully supports half-diamond templates and has additional provision for slip roads and slip switches. And a great many other additional features. Full details of 091c are at: message 1849 There is ...
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210. New user
... that would significantly degrade the functionality. And I'm led to believe some users do actually like Templot the way it is. regards, Martin. posted: 19 Jan 2011 21:23 from: Phil O Hi Nicholas I have to concur with all of the above. It is difficult to get your head around it at first but persevere with the tutorials and suddenly it will click. I have been persevering for about 7 years now and I can draw up a basic layout with one or two partial templates as for slips and tandem turnouts by referring back to the relevant video's I'm not yet up to doing irregular diamonds etc, but hopefully we will get them in the next upgrade. It is also helpful to know the basic permanent way vocabulary otherwise you may have problem understanding what is being asked of you. Cheers Phil posted: 19 Jan 2011 23:04 from: Mike Huxley Nicholas, There's an old saying that holds very true when using Templot for the first few times" Don't run before you can walk". I've been using Templot for ...
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... of simple things first and just throw them away when you have learnt from them. I also think it essential to work through ALL the video tutorials in order to get exposure to the functions- all I have written above is demonstrated in the basic tutorials. The complete list of videos is:- insert a turnout in plain track 3.8MB return loop 7.1MB simple oval- method 1 1.9MB simple oval- method 2 2.4MB single slip 5.3MB working with substitution radius 7.1MB turntable- part 1 2.1MB turntable- part 2 7.7MB 3-way tandem turnouts 11.3MB fixing start of transition zone 3.8MB linking to the notch 11.1MB simple transitioned corner 1.1MB overlaid track on a scan (long) 28.5MB weaving track between obstructions 3.6MB overlaid track on a rough sketch 7.9MB recording radius within a transition 3.8MB picture shape -- display a scanned track plan as a background guide 39MB (broadband only) widely-spaced crossover 2.5MB zoom-free mode for single templates 8MB using template marker colours 3.8MB using 'make transition' into a parallel platform 5MB adjusting the size and position of printed template pages 2.8MB ...
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... knuckle and then flair. This takes a bit of practice- it is easy to get it near enough, but we are looking for spot on! Obviously, this will need splitting later for electrical purposes, but this is easily done with a piercing saw, and with a fine blade, the saw kerf will create a perfectly spaced joint with the two rail ends still aligned. I am hoping that this shot shows that the rails can be aligned quite well... 1129_261114_570000002.jpg You can see in this image that this tandem is so tight for space that the switches need to be loose heel- there is not enough length to use the flexible type. You will also see that I have left some of the N/S base strips over-length. I tend to make them extra long, then cut them to length when everything else is complete as this makes them easier to manipulate. The ones in the shot will have check rails soldered to them in due course and only then will be cut to length. It is probably important ...
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... : rovex I've done an attempt at a Snow Hill trackplan. Its had to be much pared down to fit into 21 Ft by 16ft, which means putting both throats on the curves and losing some of the pointwork, but hopefully it gives a fair representation. Rovex The link is below topic 1332- message 9204 posted: 13 May 2011 10:38 from: Raymond As an exercise in complex formations it has proven very 'interesting' indeed. However, I 'think' I have figured out all the crossing, slips and tandems. As you can see, it is the 22nd version so far and there is still quite a lot of timber shoving to do. I suspect also that some of the formations are incomplete and or have insufficient check rails. All I need now is lots of money and a warehouse to build it in. Regards Raymond Attachment: attach_1062_1474_Snow_Hill_22.box 378 posted: 1 Jun 2012 10:17 from: Ian Allen OMG, I don't envy you the time you must have put into all that lot Raymond! Parts of Templot Club ...
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... or looking at the printed templates, to identify quickly the hand of the template. But it is not entirely convenient, so I have belatedly done something about it. The turnout-road centre-line will now follow the curve, and terminate at the switch heel: 2_300829_040000001.png This is still visible, just, as a hand marker when zoomed out: 2_300829_040000002.png This now makes it much easier to peg partial templates onto the turnout curve -- for example when inserting catch points into a turnout, or creating type-2 tandems where the second switch is in the turnout road of the first switch. Previously to do this it was necessary to run the peg along the rail rather than the centre-line to the required position. Now you can start from say CTRL-6 peg position and run it directly down the centre-line (CTRL-F8 mouse action). Here for example I have inserted a set of catch points into this turnout: 2_300829_040000003.png 11. Two option boxes have been missing from the V-crossing dialog for 15 ...
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... map indeed. It's strange how the jargon creeps up on you. Yesterday's build cleared up several loose ends. I now expect to tackle the outstanding stuff in this order: 1. Platforms in all output formats and for diagram mode. 2. Page outlines on the workpad. 3. Finish the user interface for the sketchboard. Which would then leave only the mammoth and daunting task of 4. Write the missing help texts and update the web site, "more info" links, tutorials and videos. For example the tandem tutorial/video needs a significant update to use a gaunt turnout for the middle V-crossing. The sketchboard will need a significant amount of explanation, tutorials and videos. All the existing videos and tutorials need an introductory note about Quick mode and Normal mode. And finally, if the will to live hasn't deserted me, 5. Finish (or even properly start) the Quick Intro beginner wizard. TDV should then be ready to become a Pug -- unless you know different? regards, Martin. posted: ...
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... topic: 972 A Tutoral needed! posted: 15 Nov 2009 21:39 from: phileakins Hi Folks I am attaching the latest incarnation of Blue Town, which bears a passing resemblance to Sheerness Dockyard (LCDR) post the 1883 trackwork revamp, condensed into 12 feet X 3 feet space in S7. There is a three-way tandem (they seem to be in fashion at the moment, although I've taken heed of all the advice) I need to finish- its just overlayed right and left hand templates at the moment. When I get everything just right I'll put the V crossings in the right place and play with partial templates to produce the definitive template. However- I cannot get my head around the alteration of checkrail lengths, shortened or lengthened! There are several place where check-rails should seamlessly merge through turnouts and crossovers, but I get hopelessly lost in the various acronyms and options, so that anything I produce is actually by guesswork and accident. Can someone help me though this please? Thanks. Phil PS Surprisingly ...
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... column to get the name labels out of the way to take a closer look. The double slip's tiebars are interfering with each other which will make operation impossible. Also both the double slip and the single slips are much too close to each other. Perhaps you would be better off eliminating the carriage siding and thus the scissors crossover and double slip? I have made a start here, but be warned, I haven't ensured perfect alignment of the replacement turnouts! If you really must have a carriage siding, how about a tandem turnout? Attachment: attach_740_945_East_End_JW's_sugge stion.box 207 Last edited on 21 Feb 2010 13:10 by Jonathan Wells posted: 21 Feb 2010 14:09 from: Paul Boyd Jonathan wrote: I had to group select all, arrange names in column to get the name labels out of the way to take a closer look. You could just hit the "End" key to hide the name labels altogether! I rarely bother with them and just bring them back on show if I'm having trouble selecting a particular template in a crowded ...
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... topic: 1634 Missing joggles posted: 18 Sep 2011 14:15 from: Raymond Has anyone else seen this I wonder or am I missing something obvious? The attached Tandem has the joggle missing on one stock rail for each set of blades and I cannot see why. Regards Raymond Attachment: attach_1180_1634_Tandem_question.b ox 202 posted: 18 Sep 2011 15:01 from: Martin Wynne Hi Raymond, It's because the switch blades have been omitted from the templates containing the stock rails. If you restore the switch blade on the stock rail template, the joggle will be drawn. I will have a look at changing this. In the meantime I suggest shortening the crossing rail to exclude the switch planing part, and splitting out a separate short partial template which contains both the stock rail and the switch blade planing (crossing rail). I have done the first switch for you below -- over to you to do the other one. regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_1181_1634_joggle_for_raymon d.box 186 posted: 18 Sep 2011 15:12 from: Raymond Dear Martin ...
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... both roads is the same and they are curved in the same direction, and all four crossing angles are therefore equal. What you are looking for is an irregular diamond -- one where the radius in the intersecting tracks is not the same, typically a curved track crossing a straight track. The code for them was written years ago, but it means a significant rewrite of the generator to integrate it into the current versions of Templot and it also needs a user interface. Ditto the gaunt turnouts which are needed to simplify tandems. I spend so much time on user support nowadays that finding time to rewrite the generator has defeated me. In fact I haven't been able to look at any coding at all for several weeks. Currently I am creating a video for Alan on simple curved crossovers, Paul is waiting for a reply on his CJF design, and I have a full email inbox. If you search for "irregular diamond" in the archives you will find many references. However, as you have provided your box file I can if ...
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... . You can drag the video window by grabbing on the image. (Some of the videos are "scruffy", meaning that they were done quickly in response to a question on the forum, and have not had hesitations and mouse fumblings edited out, or notes added.) insert a turnout in plain track 3.8Mb a return loop 7.1Mb a simple oval- method 1 1.9Mb a simple oval- method 2 2.4Mb single slip 5.3Mb working with substitution radius 7.1Mb turntable- part 1 2.1Mb turntable- part 2 7.7Mb 3-way tandem turnouts 11.3Mb fixing start of transition zone 3.8Mb linking to the notch 11.1Mb simple transitioned corner 1.1Mb overlaid track on a scan (long) 28.5Mb new weaving track between obstructions 3.6Mb regards, Martin. posted: 19 May 2007 16:31 from: sevenmil Thank you Martin for those tutorial vieos, now I can make some progress. Well Done! Regards Peter posted: 31 May 2007 23:17 from: Cynric Williams Thanks, they are really helpful, I find it much easier than reading through the tutorial. Would it ...
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