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... involved in removing track to replace ballast and sleepers, when relaying we used the marks left by the chairs on the rail to roughly replace the new sleepers, never measured anything, even timbering under S& C we used the old marks a bit of shoving was sometimes required to get the chairing on the timbers but that was all. I should mention that this is on a heritage line not a relay on Network rail or the precedents. Cheers Phil posted: 1 Jan 2013 18:06 from: Bob Ellis The last few posts on this topic have referred to the laying of replacement track and have set me to wondering whether it would also have been true that everything would have been done by eye when new lines were being laid in the 19th century. These lines were laid by contractors (Benton& Woodiwiss in the case of Hawes station in 1877/8, under the supervision of the Midland Railway's resident engineer, Frank Lynde, and engineer-in-chief, John Crossley). Am I naive in assuming that the contractors would have ...
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... 17ft 6in-10. Any help would be much appreciated. Best wishes, Bob Ellis posted: 10 Jan 2008 18:37 from: Martin Wynne Bob Ellis wrote: Hi Martin, Perhaps you missed my last message Hi Bob, Not missed -- it's on my to-do list. I try to prioritise answers on the basis of how many users are likely to find it helpful. In this case you are asking for several hours work which will interest only a handful of users. I know there are a few other NER modellers who have already been through this, so I was hoping they might join in. But I promised a video ages ago and I will move it up the list. Sorry about the delay. In the meantime, it is in fact all in Templot. All you need is the NERA drawing. Make the existing NER template the current/control template. Go to template> switch options... Scroll to the bottom of the list and click it. Click the show switch info button. Click ...
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... custom timbering layouts (called "timber shoving"), but it doesn't do it for you. That's because there is an infinite number of prototype permutations, and only you know what you want. When you click "make crossover" Templot automatically leaves a space in the timbering on one side, to remind you that some timber shoving will be needed to extend long timbers across from the other side. It's quite quick to do -- just click on the timber's number and then press the L key (lengthen) a few times. Each press adds 6" (scale) to the length. If you wish, every individual timber and sleeper in Templot can be adjusted for exact size and position, but normally it's only necessary to adjust a few of them where they conflict. Here's an example of a printed template from Templot, showing long timbers and the results of some timber shoving: long_timber_shoving.png regards, Martin. posted: 2 Feb 2009 13:44 from: Martin Lloyd What would the maximum length likely to be for such timbers? ...
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... Happy New Year to you too. Thank you for all your excellent work with Templot support. Rob posted: 24 Dec 2015 09:12 from: Phil O Merry Christmas Martin, I am in Stourport so will nip into Kidder later to see if they still have the book. Thanks for the info Phil posted: 24 Dec 2015 10:28 from: Martin Wynne Phil O wrote: I am in Stourport so will nip into Kidder later to see if they still have the book. Hi Phil, They have a few copies in WHS in Stourport. regards, Martin. posted: 24 Dec 2015 10:44 from: Roger Henry It is Christmas Eve here -Brisbane- and a balmy 24C with a hint of rain for the morning. Sp wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Roger posted: 24 Dec 2015 11:56 from: Ian Allen Martin Wynne wrote: After buying presents for everyone else, how about one for yourself? The Times coffee-table book "Mapping the Railways", originally ...
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... the xtrkcad image in the files folder). Any tips or alterations I'd love to hear your views. nb the open point at the top of the plan is like that intentionally as it will lead to a lower level fiddle yard. Kind regards Dave Long http://groups.yahoo.com/group/templot/files/Proof%20Housed%20Junc/ posted: 5 Dec 2007 10:39 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, Thanks for posting your plans. You've made some rapid progress there! I noticed that in a few places you have made diamond-crossings where the crossing angle differs between the two half-diamonds. That will produce a dog-leg in the diagonal road through the K-crossings. Getting diamonds to run nicely is always tricky in 00, so it's best to keep the same angle both ends. That's easy to do -- starting with one of the half-diamonds as the current/control template, just click the tools> make diamond-crossing menu item. I think if you change the angle to ...
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... possibly allow them to be broken out with minimal force? Would your software provide for that? Provided the top corner was clean, any roughness in the break would be hidden by the ballast. As I understand it, the laser cutter uses raster (bitmap) data in the image to engrave the surface, and red vector line data to cut through. What happens for other colours of vector data? Can you set a different cut depth for each colour? regards, Martin. Hi Martin, A web site is a few weeks away, but when finished, will include details of track bases amongst other things. Yes a half depth cut can be made on the edges of all tags. This would weaken the whole structure, but the tags are only there to keep sleepers in position and not for strength. My software can certainly do that. Another alternative is to half etch all the web pieces, the part being left can be covered by ballast, although with .8mm material will this be enough? Universal Laser Systems supply a basic driver ...
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... , but at present I'm in unknown territory. *A "switch" in the UK and Templot means only the moving points section, NOT an entire turnout. regards, Martin. posted: 10 Dec 2007 03:00 from: Simon Dunkley Gn15 is generally "G" scale (it tends to be a bit variable) suing 00/H0 mechanisms. For a taster, try this: http://www.gn15.info/ Or this: http://hometown.aol.com/Gn15modeler/index.html It has been around for a few years. Simon posted: 10 Dec 2007 03:32 from: Martin Wynne Simon Dunkley wrote: Gn15 is generally "G" scale (it tends to be a bit variable) suing 00/H0 mechanisms. For a taster, try this: http://www.gn15.info/ Or this: http://hometown.aol.com/Gn15modeler/index.html It has been around for a few years. Hi Simon, Thanks for the links. Since writing earlier I found the gn15.info site. It's all new to me! Another ...
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... in the Netherlands. Unfortunately Nils suffered a brain injury in a serious horse-riding accident in November. He is on the mend, but not yet back at work. If you are reading this Nils (not very likely), best wishes for a full recovery. I have purchased full sources and made significant changes to suit Templot, and not having Nils available for user support has been a difficulty. I'm confident I can solve most of the outstanding issues, but the first release of the Sketchbook may still have a few rough edges. regards, Martin. posted: 6 Mar 2009 01:37 from: Nigel Brown Excellent stuff Martin. I like the look of Sketchbook. Personally I wouldn't worry about the two origins; so long as people know what the two different sets of axes are for that ought to be sufficient, and in fact having two origins may help to illuminate the difference. cheers Nigel posted: 6 Mar 2009 19:07 from: Ashley Excellent stuff Martin. I look forward to this update. posted: 6 ...
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... the videos do need is far more synchronised written notes on the screen, explaining what's happening. I have decided to swap to Flash format so that I can do that, although I just know some folks will end up in a tangle with browser plug-ins and so forth. I wrote a custom video player for the Templot videos based on Windows Media Player, but there seems to be a problem in Vista with that, and users with ATI graphics cards had problems with it too. Also there are now quite a few Mac users running Templot, and a change to the Flash format will allow the videos to be watched in native Mac mode. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Aug 2008 22:32 from: Hayfield Martin that works fine except that when I try and print, after loading printer data I get a fatal code 24 and Templot shuts down, I have just loaded the 91 plug posted: 21 Aug 2008 22:40 from: Hayfield Martin found the problem, template was off the page, sorry John Ps 4'6 ...
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... works, the station throat was relayed in bullhead because they couldn't make a flat bottom layout fit around all the overhead structures. Only when it was relayed again in the late 90s did we take the bull by the horns. Last edited on 7 Aug 2012 15:28 by Judi R posted: 7 Aug 2012 16:45 from: JFS Judi R wrote: As it says in the original post- to fit the existing geometry. I could buy the geometry argument- although looking at the acres of wasteland surrounding the few sidings that constitute Riverside these days I can't imagine that a few feet either way would be an insurmountable obstacle!. But why NEW? Although the OP suggests that the rail might be secondhand (it does not have much wear), the chairs, stretchers, the crossing and everything else is brand new. I can't believe that there aren't a few secondhand turnouts lying around (yes I can really). My sneaking suspicion is that the reasons are much more "legal" than technical- renewing "like for like ...
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... : 3 Dec 2019 12:49 from: Martin Wynne Hi Graeme, Many thanks for doing that. Yes I can live with that. I might even get to like it in time. I think it is important to see what it looks like with syntax highlighting, because in practice that how it is almost always viewed: 2_030735_420000000.png I confess it is unnerving to see an else and not be able to glance vertically above it to find the then. For one thing you don't know how far back to look, a few lines or several pages? One change I would prefer if it's possible, would be a blank line below "procedure..."/"function..."? You probably noticed that I already sometimes put ends below a block rather than strictly below the begin. But in that case I often comment the end; to indicate what it is the end of. For example with bananas do begin if ripe=True then eat_now else keep; end;//with or for n:=0 to ...
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... 23 Feb 2009 08:41 from: Martin Wynne Update -- Monday morning. The cause of the DNS failure still hasn't been found, but as a temporary measure to circumvent the problem, Jim has given us a new IP address. If you were previously having trouble accessing Templot Club, you should now be able to gain access using this address: http://69.36.13.142/forum You will need to login again. Please don't bookmark this, it is a temporary kludge and will be changing again shortly. A few of the links on Templot Club pages may not work, but most of them should do. If previously you were not having trouble, you may now find that you get "404 Not Found" errors until the new DNS has propagated round the world. That may take a few hours -- in the meantime the above alternative address should work. In the next few days Jim will be moving us to a different data centre in Ohio with a better connection to the UK. When that happens the IP will change ...
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... at the nose before shaping and joining, but with FB the foot will get in the way of the wing rail foot. I will check that the foot on the crossing nose doesn't clash with the wing rails anyway before I fix things down- thanks for that warning. I'm very familiar with making BH track, but FB is all new to me! I've previously seen advice about filing a notch in the foot at bends, and that feels wrong to me- I might well change my mind once I've accidentally twisted a few rails trying to bend them! I'm still unsure as to whether or not it was generally accepted practice on the prototype to cut either the stock rail or check rail foot back to allow the correct gap. I'd rather use code 70 FB (Peco IL-70) but as it stands the foot is too wide for my purposes. I was hoping to go to North Wales this year and take a few more detailed photos of FR track, but that plan has been well and truly scuppered! Cheers, Paul posted ...
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... the ID numbers from scratch if they get out of hand. Of course, you may have a track plan with more than 999 templates? regards, Martin. Martin So far the biggest layout I've drawn has 183 templates, but that hasn't got the fiddle yard drawn or the tandems correctly drawn, so there could be a lot more templates. I like the regenerate ID numbers, but would have to remember not to use it after people have started to build track. The problem arose on Skinningrove that I printed out a few templates for the track builder, spotted an error on one, corrected the error, printed it out again and we had two templates numbered 50. Both are right hand on a right hand curve. Plus they are next to each other on the layout. Anyway the template IDs will sort that out. Thanks Richard posted: 2 May 2013 20:39 from: dave turner Hi Martin, A definite improvement particularly for more complex constructions. Perhaps also the columns in the storage box i.e. name& fixed id could ...
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... the row. regards, Martin. Last edited on 7 Nov 2012 17:40 by Martin Wynne posted: 7 Nov 2012 22:21 from: Simon Dunkley Martin Wynne wrote: What I have noticed is that the animation runs much more slowly on Crossover/Linux/Wine than on Windows. My Linux system is dual-boot with Windows 7, so is using the same hardware and graphics card. The difference must therefore be in the Wine system timers or graphics code. Got it in one- it causes a few other minor niggles, too, but as it is my choice to install on an unsupported operating system, I haven't raised them as that would be unfair. (I am not sure what the keyboard mapping is for the insert key, for example, on a Mac with Crossover, hence the use of Ctrl-v.) posted: 7 Nov 2012 22:32 from: Martin Wynne Simon Dunkley wrote: but as it is my choice to install on an unsupported operating system, I haven't raised them as that ...
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... dial-up modem installed, to send it) (black&white). 4. your own actual printer(s). Which means Templot should be able to see at least 3 printers when it starts up, even on a brand new system. regards, Martin. posted: 19 Jan 2016 11:57 from: TPP Hi Martin Thanks for the quick reply. Well I could see all the printers and print from them too. I did a reboot, left the system to do its thing for a few minutes and tried again- now all is fine. I can now see the printers in Templot and print from Templot Weird but sorted so I am happy- Thanks posted: 21 Nov 2018 14:33 from: John Palmer I think this may be the appropriate thread on which to make this posting because I am receiving the identical error message (" Templot is unable to locate a printer driver on this system"), and this after a reboot of the computer and allowance of a few minutes for the system to ...
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... from: Michael Henfrey Thanks very much everyone. I did not know anything about the curviform crossing so thanks for pointing that out. (I really should read more tutorials) Borg& John, Thanks very much for those template files. I was really struggling to make the goods yard "work" but now I am one step closer to getting it started now posted: 27 May 2017 08:10 from: madscientist Thanks Dave posted: 11 Jun 2017 11:41 from: Michael Henfrey Right, I have made a few changes based off some suggestions to make the goods yard sidings longer and slightly operationally better. Iv'e printed it out and layed it out in the loft and it just about fits, but the dimensions in templot say it'll fit perfectly but I wasn't taking too much care in laying out the many peices of paper! Just got to do some timber nudging now. I seem to have forgotten where the option is to add where the ballast shoulder should be? Is there an easy way to apply it to all the track? ...
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... from: d827kelly Done some more Timber Shoving now for the remainder of the turnouts. If someone could take a look and see if I've introduced errors etc that would be great. Thanks Kelly2356_141516_540000000.png Attachment: attach_2497_3046_kelly_shepperton _mod_2017_09_14_2015_24.box 188 posted: 15 Sep 2017 12:40 from: Tony W Hi Kelly. Just had a look at your latest iteration. Largely there now I think apart from the alignment of the switch blades of the coal siding turnout (17) with the timbering, now sorted. Otherwise I have just tidied up a few areas where I thought the timbering could look better. Regarding the track spacing, too wide is better than too close. The stated spacings are a minima after all. You may also find the extra separation of benefit when you come to design your fiddle yard. I have also tidied up your storage box. Good luck with building it. Tony. Edit. PS. I note from the above posting that one of your baseboard joins is very close to the crossing of the yard turnout and appears to cut through the ...
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... topic: 915 My First Attempt, and post! posted: 30 Jul 2009 12:07 from: Josh C Recently Bought Templot a few days ago, Haven't got round to getting a printer sorted out yet, so instead I'd thought I'd have a quick go at designing a track plan. So I thought I'd show you how it turned out, Any sugestions of how to improve it or feedback would be very much appreciated 1691_300703_320000000.jpg The top left track is the station, then a few trees coming in form the left to gradually disgise it, the track below would serve a small gds shed, coal staithes with a small yard. Then the road infront is the headsunt then the two top lines go out to a traverser, with a small scene in front maybe a dairy? and last but not least the short line in the middle is a small end on loading dock and cattle pen! posted: 30 Jul 2009 17:58 from: Paul Boyd Hi Josh Looks good, but could you upload a box file please? That way ...
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... piece to capture the ties, then the rail template lays over the top. I am still working on how to hold the rail whilst it gets spiked. I may have to find some system of gluing them to the ties and then spiking after removing the rail jig. Thanks again Regards Dave posted: 23 May 2008 13:31 from: Andy Reichert dwhellum wrote: Your system is very interesting, however I am not using tie plates but just spiking directly to the ties. Your prototype may be one of the very few NG lines that didn't use tie plates at all. The very common US modeling idea of just spiking track, is a considerable compromise, based on reducing work, that was invented half a century ago, and stuck, due to no-one questioning why real track looks so different. Just about all US modeling magazines consider "track" merely an unnoticed means for steering toy trains out of the box, that must be constructed with the least possible delay and effort. They sell more advertising that way. I'm more ...
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