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... MS for TS. Alan posted: 17 Mar 2014 13:27 from: Martin Wynne Adrian (ffoil) wrote: What snap options should I be selecting? Hi Adrian, As Alan suggested, simply swap sides: 2_170818_500000000.png For the first slip road you use TCP on one half-diamond, and MCP on the other one, to snap the slip switches into position. For the second slip road, use MCP and TCP respectively instead. If the double-slip is on a curve, you will probably need to adjust the switch curving (F6) to match the underlying template. And also change the hand of the switch as required of course (CTRL+ X). regards, Martin. posted: 17 Mar 2014 21:55 from: Adrian (ffoil) Thanks for the suggestions. I've been playing around with this for over an hour, and I'm not sure if I'm moving forwards or not. I thought I had it, but when I tried to delete the spare turnout, I ended up back with a single slip ...
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... diamond is flat enough to need to be switched, it is usually long enough for a normal inside slip. You are not restricted to the two options you gave, you can manually add a branch curve of some intermediate radius if necessary, and make a diamond-crossing at the intersection where it crosses the adjacent track. Shorten the turnout (F4) to just beyond the end of he check rails, and then put the peg on the TOLP peg position. You can then manually peg on a curved branch track and adjust the radius to give the required size of diamond-crossing. An alternative approach is to make a simple crossover, convert the new turnout to half-diamond, put the peg on CTRL-4 and manually adjust the K-crossing angle (F10) to the required curve. Then make diamond-crossing. Ask again if you need more details about these methods. regards, Martin. posted: 25 Feb 2013 15:16 from: JFS Sorry, my mistake- I misread the word "Outside" Howard ...
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... and not a peep. Presumably it's working ok? Has the problem of slow running and overheating on Macs/Crossover been solved? Thanks for any feedback. Full details at: topic 2009 For the next update I have made a minor change to the working of the TAB key. regards, Martin. posted: 22 Mar 2013 13:24 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Martin, As you say, It seems to be working very well and impressively so. The only squawk I have is, that you have changed the adjustable scaling of the 'background shapes' input menu down to only two decimal places which caused me some problem. A few months ago I was assisting a model railway group to work out a track plan for S7 modelling, and the original plans they had, which was of a proto site, had not been printed to any of the normal usual scales. I ended up with having to 'inch' the background shape input to a scale of 643.288 to get a known length on the actual ground to the correct S7 model length ...
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... F4 mouse action). 6. store and background it (INSERT key). regards, Martin. posted: 31 Mar 2013 11:23 from: Howard Brilliant, works a treat, thanks Martin for your speedy response. I like the facility that platforms can be tapered (different widths at the ends). Howard W. posted: 21 Apr 2013 11:45 from: Howard Another question on platforms- what is the distance from the end of the sleeper to the edge of the platform? Can this be adjusted? I seem to be getting variable results. In 2mm scale (9.42 track, 8' 6" sleepers) it appears to be 1mm corresponding to 6" on the real thing. In N gauge (9mm track, 8' 6" sleepers) it appears to be about 0.75mm. These are using the latest update, on some previous versions I seemed to be getting the platform edge aligned with the end of the sleepers. Howard. Last edited on 21 Apr 2013 11:47 by Howard posted: 21 ...
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... to the control. 3. put the peg on CTRL-0. 4. click geometry> invert curving menu item. Notice that the main-side stock rail in the switch now aligns with the diamond rail. 5. store& background (INSERT key, or top orange tool-button). 6. delete the other switch to the control. 7. put the peg on CTRL-0. 8. click geometry> invert curving menu item. 9. click tools> make slip road menu item. Adjust it to fit as before. (p.s. instead of 5 and 6, in Templot2 you can click make the control on the second switch which will do 5 for you). regards, Martin. posted: 14 Apr 2013 10:25 from: Charles Orr Thank you Martin. I've done what you said (I think) but the result still looks a little strange. I've attached the second attempt. I wonder what has gone wrong this time? Retirement beckons in July and I then intend to start building ...
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... still there. Hi Paul, Try this. The outer turnout is a C-9. The inner one is down to B-5.5 to keep well within your baseboard joint. Something a bit longer would look better as Ian showed, but there isn't room. I also realigned your running lines and extended the transitions between the platforms for better curves. If you use it, over to you to tidy up the timbering. 2_011232_460000000.png File attached. p.s. this .box file includes a turnout with the turnout road set to adjustable and will crash all versions of Templot earlier than 209a. Update info is at: topic 1500 regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_1835_2450_paul_wide_xover.b ox 210 posted: 1 May 2014 18:18 from: Ian Allen Drat. I hadn't taken into account the fact that it may have to be broken down at the baseboard joints. Ian posted: 1 May 2014 18:20 from: Paulr1949 Martin Wynne wrote: Ian Allen wrote: Try this. The curves are more gentle which should look better and allow stock to traverse more ...
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... It's looking good. The crossover on the left TR084/ TR107 is using D-7 turnouts. That's a rather unusual size combination, leading to an unnecessarily tight inner radius of 1367mm (53.8") on TR084. If you change TR084 to say C-9, that radius will increase to 1830mm (72.1"). You could then make TR107 a C-9 or B-9, and the overall length of the crossover will be about the same as before. If you use the F5 mouse action to adjust the turnout sizes, Templot will keep you to the more common size combinations. Generally for sharply curved crossovers, C-10 is a good size to choose, although in this case it would make the crossover a bit longer. regards, Martin. posted: 12 Jan 2014 11:42 from: Nigel Brown Might not be possible in whatever space you've got, but if you did a mirror image of the plan your facing turnouts become trailing, which might be more prototypical. Cheers Nigel posted: 13 Jan 2014 ...
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... you have now. Extend it (F4 mouse action) to the required length(s) along the running line. or 3b. if you prefer a diamond-crossing similar in length to what you have now, change the starting turnout to a regular V-crossing. Then click the tools> make ladder crossover> make regular ladder menu item. Note -- you are making diamond-crossings across a transition curve, which is a bit ambitious for a Templot beginner. Ideally the new transition zones will need minor adjustments to create perfect concentricity in the 1st and 2nd radii. However the results above should be close enough for most purposes. I will make a bit of video shortly showing how to make the final adjustments. For your double-junction on the right, have a look at the video -- help> watch a video> Scruff Video curviform double junction menu item. If it won't play on your system, it is also available (in much poorer image quality) at: http://flashbackconnect.com/Movie.aspx? ...
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... get it to line up with the turnout to Platform 2. Is there a way to get Templot to connect these two turnouts? That is, I don't want to move the middle turnout and I want the leftmost turnout to remain pegged to the approach straight. Hi David, Welcome to Templot Club. Extend some approach track on the middle turnout (F3), split it off from the turnout and then curve it to just clear the straight track on the left. Use the make transition function to link the templates, adjust the boundaries, and then insert the turnout in it. Then roam (CTRL+ F9) the turnout into position. Can you follow that or do you need a bit of video? Have we not already covered this on RMweb? at: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/112509-designing-an-s -curve-crossover-in-templot/ regards, Martin. posted: 21 Aug 2016 10:56 from: DavidLaing Martin, Yes, we have covered this ...
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... here. If it can't be posted in public I really don't want to know, about this or anything else. I would have preferred BRM to have done that, because now I have to take time out to compose a reply to them. regards, Martin. posted: 17 Mar 2016 13:32 from: Ian Allen _DSC0004_zps76e13e57.jpg StationThroat1_zps2e5be7cc.jpg StationThroat2_zps605960c4.jpg StationThroat3_zpsf9633be0.jpg StationThroat4_zps900ebc08.jpg Templot used to create a complex station throat on a curved approach. All points built to O-MF standards. Although there were over 100 hours taken to plan and adjust the formation, without Templot it would have taken longer to draw out by hand, and the actual build would have probably been more taxing! Last edited on 17 Mar 2016 13:41 by Ian Allen posted: 17 Mar 2016 13:57 from: Ian Allen _DSC0001_zpsm2p8btl1.jpg _DSC0005_zps4oykhwyr.jpg Tandem/3 -way points under construction leading into new goods yard. All built to O-MF standards. Ian posted: 17 Mar 2016 16:42 from: Phil O Hi Martin How about contacting Jeremy" Cornish Trains Jez" ...
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... this basic info in replies because we have readers all over the world. regards, Martin. posted: 14 Nov 2013 11:43 from: Martin Wynne Hi Chris, Here is the next video. This one shows how to shift a group of templates into alignment with some other template, using the notch-linking functions. I then inserted a right-hand template to start the run-round loop in place of your previous left-hand one, and created the return curve into the loop. Note that in adjusting the existing loop template to the return curve I made a mistake, using F4 overall length instead of F3 approach length mouse action. The video shows how I corrected that using several clicks on the undo changes button (blue left-arrow). There isn't a beginner button for F3, so I pressed the F3 key -- the video can't show me doing that. (All the mouse actions are also available in the action menus if you don't have the F keys on your keyboard). Here is the video ...
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... Martin. posted: 8 Sep 2017 14:59 from: Martin Wynne Godfrey Earnshaw wrote: Can't see how this new box contains F8. Hi Godders, Click the hollow triangle symbol on the mouse action panel to toggle between F7 and F8: 2_080940_240000000.png That isn't a new feature, it has always been there. Similarly for several other mouse actions, clicking that symbol toggles two related mouse actions, e.g. in F6, toggle between 1st and 2nd transition radius, for a transition, toggle between the start and zone length adjustments. When not doing such pre-defined swaps, it toggles back to the most recent previous mouse action. So for example when adjusting check rails you could toggle to and fro between the length of the check rail and the length of the flared end. The BACKSPACE key does the same thing. I removed the separate F8 button so that I could find space to include an indication of join snapping in the caption on the F7 button. The toolbar can't be made any longer or it won't fit on 1024 screens. ...
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... lines shown on the OS map should be relied on too closely. The first switch has no diverging road shown. I made the entirely arbitrary assumption that the left-most road is the main road, and that it is a common type 1 tandem (i.e. second switch in main road of first switch). The only way to match the rails as drawn is to put the whole thing on a transition S-curve, which seems a bit unlikely. I think it might be better to straighten it out and adjust the turnout on the right accordingly but that is up to you. Here's a quick stab at it on the S-curve. It needs some further splitting out of partial templates, but there is no point in my doing any more on it or posting the box file until you provide the scaled image -- I simply scaled it by eye: 2_072132_220000000.png It looks a bit odd, but I think it is doable in P4. There is some fine tuning of check and wing rails needed for running clearances -- ...
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... Fraser, Yes, that's quite common. Here are a few pics showing such a check rail extended back to the switch: 2_240614_180000002.jpg 2_240614_180000001.jpg As you can see the check rail is extended as far as physically possible behind the switch rail: 2_230721_050000001.jpg To make room for the check rail chairs, bolted half-chairs are used for the closure rail: 2_230721_050000000.jpg On the GWR and BR(W) the check rail is actually attached to the back of the switch rail, using a fitting called a "check lump". To adjust check rail lengths in Templot, real> adjust check rails... menu item, and click on the label for the required check rail end (not the check rail itself). regards, Martin. posted: 24 May 2016 14:05 from: FraserSmith Thanks for that Martin. The pictures are extremely useful to see what actually goes on. I had already made the (very) long check rails in the plain track using the method described in one of your posts and had extended the turnout check rail ...
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... So I have no plans to add it to Templot -- it would be a major programming effort and other things must come first. For example I have done a lot of work on showing bullhead chair outlines, but it is still far from finished so it hasn't made it into the latest program update. Everything anyone could need to know about 3rd/4th-rail track is on Russ Elliott's page here: http://www.clag.org.uk/3rd-4th.html For plain track you can improvise by using the platforms function, adjusting the dimensions of the platforms to represent the conductor rails. The centre rail needs to be set a negative front dimension for the "platform". The position and length of each such "rail" can be adjusted: 2_271834_370000000.png See: real> platforms... menu item. This does mean that you can't have platforms on the same template -- where needed they would need to be overlaid as a separate partial template. To represent conductor rails through pointwork it will also be necessary to overlay partial templates. If ...
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... sometimes useful, for example in creating a symmetrical Y-turnout with straight exits through the V-crossing: 2_222120_040000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 7 Feb 2016 18:31 from: Martin Wynne Martion Elsworth wrote: I've been trying to find the Make Transition function but can't- where is it please? Hi Martin, Welcome to Templot Cub. Click on a background template, and then this item on its menu: 2_071314_380000000.png The result will be a transition curve between the two curves: 2_071314_380000001.png Your next task is to adjust the length of it, and/or delete the original template(s ), as required. (In the next Templot update version, the length adjustment will be partially automated.) More about transition curves in Templot: http://templot.com/martweb/gs_geometry.htm#transition More about the make transition functions: http://templot.com/martweb/info_files/make_trans.htm Sorry that is over 10 years out of date and lots of things could now be done differently, but the basics are still the same. ...
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... a comprehensive description of most types of saw. Briefly: Fretsaw: Used to cut scroll work, and has thin blades, and a very deep throat of typically a foot or more; mostly used to cut wood and plastics. Coping saw: Used with coarser blades, 6 to 8 inches deep throat; blades to cut wood, plastic and ceramic, tile. Piercing saw: These have a smaller, stiffer frame, and use fine-tooth blades to cut metal; they break easily, so the frame can be adjusted to use the broken lengths of blade; used by jewellers and model makers. http://www.wonkeedonkeetools.co.uk/handsaws/what-is-a -saw posted: 22 Nov 2014 15:44 from: JFS- exactly- and I get mine from here:- http://www.hswalsh.com/categories/saws-saw-blades Cheers, Howard posted: 22 Nov 2014 16:12 from: Trevor Walling Hello, Could you point me at a suitable saw for this type of work please? Regards. ...
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... : 14 Jul 2012 21:58 from: dave turner Martin Thank you for the explanation. For many years I was an AutoCad so-called expert user and lisp programmer. So I still find some of the Templot fundamentals non-intuitive even though I do understand the reasoning behind them once explained to me. Just as an example one of the issues that reappears is the inability to create a transition between two templates that intersect when projected. Simpler programs such as XTrkCad are able to do this and allow the mouse to adjust for the "curve". I find myself using this program to generate the overall view then using it as a background to create the detail in Templot. Please note I'm commenting not complaining about this as I assume that it's a fundamental difference in philosophy. regards Dave posted: 14 Jul 2012 23:00 from: Martin Wynne dave turner wrote: Just as an example one of the issues that reappears is the inability to create a transition between two templates that intersect when projected. Simpler programs such as XTrkCad are able ...
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... this configuration that they can share? posted: 27 Nov 2015 23:40 from: Martin Wynne 4railsman wrote: Despite exhaustive searching, there doesn't seem to be any London Transport/London Underground Templates with their exclusive 4-rail track layout. Is anyone currently working on this, or has anyone already developed their own templates with this configuration that they can share? Hi, Welcome to Templot Club. Templot has no direct support for conductor rails. However, for plain track you can improvise by using the platforms function, adjusting the dimensions of the platforms to represent the conductor rails. The centre rail needs to be set a negative front dimension for the "platform". The position and length of each such "rail" can be adjusted: 2_271834_370000000.png See: real> platforms... menu item. This does mean that you can't have platforms on the same template -- where needed they would need to be overlaid as a separate partial template. To represent conductor rails through pointwork it will also be necessary to overlay partial templates. regards ...
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... topic: 2793 extend/shorten to meet background template posted: 26 Nov 2015 11:05 from: Martin Wynne I'm working on a new extend/shorten to meet function, primarily as an aid to using the make transition functions. The intention is that the original templates can be automatically adjusted for length to fit the new transition template. This will avoid the tedious business of zooming in to do that manually. Likewise when adjusting the underlying templates after make diamond-crossing at intersection. The new function will also be useful in other circumstances where the position of a template boundary needs to be moved, for example to enable a turnout to be inserted. Or where a gap or overlap needs to be eliminated, for example before using the roll rails to match function. At present such tasks have to be done manually. It is working quite well (within sensible limits). But I'm uncertain how much misalignment to allow before reporting an error in the original template alignments. In the process I have produced this alert dialog: 2_260617_500000000.png I'm aware ...
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