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... topic: 349 New video -- Aligning a string of templates over a centre-line posted: 3 Mar 2008 13:18 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, There is a new video showing the align function being used to convert an existing string of templates to a new centre-line. If they are standard templates it is usually easier just to align fresh ones as required. But if these templates have been customized for your design, they can be copied and re-aligned as shown without losing the customizing. In the video the diamond-crossing is aligned onto a transition curve. To ensure accuracy of the K-crossings it is better to re-create the second half-diamond as shown, rather than copy the first one. The video was made using 091c and shows some of the other changes in that version. Download link: align function video (6 minutes, 8MB) align_video1.png align_video2.png regards, Martin. posted: 3 Mar 2008 17:32 from: Peter Ayre Hi Martin, Another video masterpiece and it ...
... posted: 28 Mar 2017 22:50 from: Godfrey Earnshaw OK Martin, I tried the, "extend/shorten to meet", functions almost as soon as you introduced them. My first thoughts were, "why bother". My second and subsequent thoughts are, "these are brilliant, don't need to keep zooming and changing the length, why has it taken so long for Martin to introduce them". irritates a bit when it says: "Small error found: If extended the control template will not align perfectly with the background template, but may be acceptable for use. The discrepancies will be: on X: 0.055 mm on Y: 0.021 mm on angle: 0.013 degrees.... However, I've got used to it now. Most of the functions you introduce are successful, I think, but one has to use and test them in order to appreciate their worth, which is not always immediately apparent. Godders posted: 28 Mar 2017 23:33 from: Martin Wynne Godfrey Earnshaw wrote: I tried ...
23. Questions on the basic fundamentals on prototype (and scale model) turnout dimensions and design met
... (and scale model) turnout dimensions and design met posted: 20 Feb 2011 15:04 from: Brian Nicholls Hi All, Please excuse me for asking what might seem to be some dumb questions, but something has been bugging me for a little while now. First let me explain why I am asking the questions, on several occasions I have been placing turnouts onto my background track layout plan, and have found that in these cases, no matter what I do I cannot get both the main and turnout sides to align with the plan track lines. In some of these cases, I have aligned the main side and then altered the adjoining track-work for the turnout side to mate up with that end (but I am not absolutely sure this is what I should really do), (I know, someone will scream the dreaded words "compromise"). I have tried ringing the changes, such as changing from B to C or D type turnouts (and/or visa versa) and in some cases this has worked ...
... Try entering a different number, say 12 or 20 or maybe 3 mm. Click the info button to read some notes about this setting (written 20 years ago, and I have just read them again for the first time since then). 5. store the template again and try printing it. 6. if it works, try the same on the other affected template(s). Sorry there is no way to do them all in one go. Changing the subject, do you find that the pages are aligning accurately from the laser printer? Or have you been storing the paper somewhere hot and dry before use? Laser printers heat the paper, which can cause differential shrinkage, with sometimes mis-matches of up to 1mm or so on adjacent pages. Several users have reported such results, and I normally recommend using an ink-jet printer for accurate printing. regards, Martin. posted: 11 Nov 2015 10:44 from: Gordon S Hi Martin, apologies for not getting back sooner. Thanks for the suggestions, ...
... topic: 2233 use of F7 to automatically join two pieces of track posted: 19 Jun 2013 20:57 from: LSWRArt Hi Martin, Sorry to bother you again. Usually I can join two pieces of track together by using f7 and the two pieces of track just jump into alignment when the second piece of track gets anywhere near the first, but... Suppose I have 3 pieces of track all in line (actually 2 points with a straight piece of track in between). I slightly reposition point 1 (the left one) and want to re-align the other two pieces of track with this, so I move the peg (red circle) onto the end of the point 1 nearest the plain piece of track and move the notch (white square) onto this peg. I now change control to the plain piece of track and move it using f7. I make sure that the red peg is on the end of the plain track nearest point 1 and I therefore expect it to jump into alignment with the ...
... used turnouts. First select a turnout such as a B6 (it does not matter at this stage what crossing angle you call up, but if you do know, roughly speaking, the angle choose the nearest it will save a little time). Then from this point on, use only the MAIN ROAD side of the turnout (forget the TS side). Now shorten and/or blank off the turnout MS side up to just before the ends of the check rails (obviously you will need these). Now align the Fine Point FP as near as you can to the crossing point of the curved rails you want to match. Now put the PEG onto the FP using GEOMETRY> Peg positions..> Peg on FP Then (using only the MS side of the turnout) rotate the back end (nearest the centre of the diamond) of the MS stock rail until it just aligns with the curved rail you want to match. Now put the PEG onto the MS Length using GEOMETRY> Peg positions..> Peg on ...
... overlaid background shapes- the baseboard outlines- don't exactly match the real thing but I haven't checked the dimensions of these shapes to confirm that I entered the details exactly (although I again believe that I did). We're only talking of a few mm difference over the 7ft baseboard span. I can live with this as it isn't that critical and it is on the right side- the print out is slightly smaller than the baseboards. The area where I'm having most difficulty is with joining the single sheets together and getting the alignment correct. I'm trimming the margin of two adjacent sides with a guilotine and then overlaying each sheet as accurately as I can over the margin of the adjacent sheet(s) so that the borders align. The sheets are secured together with invisible tape. That's where my problem arises. The alignment isn't always 100%. Some is no doubt down to slight discrepancies in the overlaying but I don't think it all is. I find that one pair of overlays is accurately aligned but the next row isn't. My questions therefore ...
... Hi Tony, If CTRL+ F6 doesn't work on your system, you can instead simply press 6 on the main keyboard. The same applies to the other CTRL+ F functions. If that also doesn't work, all the mouse actions can be accessed from the action menu. There are two related functions, snake and slide. I have made you a bit of scruff video showing them in action: http://flashbackconnect.com/Default.aspx?id=6WxyhoKGPkY4JeXVAjxuTA2 The snake through peg mouse action translates the control template along its alignment, leaving its fixing peg and its alignment fixed in position on the trackpad. This means it remains in alignment with other templates, even if there is a gap between them. If its fixing peg is not on the main-road centre-line, it is moved there when this mouse action starts. In the video the template alignment is in a separate background template so that you can see what is happening. That is not usually the case of course. The slide through peg mouse action moves the fixing peg ...
... from top to bottom are the heel (pivot) location, the end of the blade planing, and the blade tip (point). On the right the mark is the end of the blade planing (where the rails diverge). All these are as best I can judge on a rather indistinct photo -- in particular the end-of-planing on both sides is a best guess. This is unfortunate because it is the only location showing on both sides, and at least one such location is needed to align the correction grid. gimp4.png This is a zoomed-in screenshot from Gimp, showing the perspective correction grid. I have dragged the grid corners to align the vertical grid lines down the rail edges, and also one horizontal grid line is aligned across between the end-of-planing green marks where they intersect the gauge lines. Strictly speaking we need another location to align the horizontal grid lines square across the rails and complete a full rectangle. The best that can be managed here is to align a grid line across ...
... transition curve. Specifically turnout 23 below, This is made the control and the crossover is generated. What I do find is the crossover turnout so created is not exactly parallel to the exit track, i.e. if I extend the approach track it does not exactly run parallel to the exit of the initial crossover turnout. despite the screen shot the tracks are all connected accurately the next step is to make the short exit track of the crossover bottom left, straight, doing this shows up that the loop straight line is not aligned with the crossover straight( K is 0.57) box file attached thanks as always 3004_261617_520000000.png just to add, after the crossover is created I can go in to" Geometry- Straight" and this creates a straight track and removes the transition, but then I have to rotate the turnout on Peg 5 position to get the K= 180( if you follow me), but isnt that creating a little kick at the peg Attachment: attach_2583_3137_club0gauge.box 199 Last edited on 26 Nov 2017 21:48 by madscientist posted: 26 ...
... one go? 4) I am planning on ballasting the track work once the sleepers are laid BEFORE installing any of the chairs and rail components. The layout is (hopefully) three baseboards of no more than 1.2 metres long and about 475mm wide. As such they easilty sit on my modelling bench and I was planning on building them in-situ. Comments and thoughts on this appreciated. I see no value in building the slabs of track work on paper and relocating them to the layout when the laser cutting creates useful alignment to ensure each piece of laser cut panel aligns itself with its neighbor eliminating the hassel of trying to align individula items of pointwork insitu. 5) Assuming the trackbed is laid, sleepers are stuck down (pre stained or weathered post installation) I am then planning to ballast the track along the lines of that proposed by Rice ie at the same time as laying the sleepers. As individual sleepers do not need to be laid I am assumning that a slab of track work sleepers can be laid onto a PVA glue quite ...
... topic: 3037 Dual gauge turnouts posted: 7 Jun 2017 16:48 from: George Ray Several years ago I produced some dual gauge turnout 5" and 7 1/4" templates for our local Model Engineering Society of which I am a member. The requirement has now arisen to produce some more bespoke turnouts. I still have the original box file but the difference is such that I think I really need to start again. I started with a 7 1/4" turnout then tried to align a 5" gauge turnout on top to start to develop the necessary partial templates. However I can't find the notch and peg positions that allow the main rail to be common for both turnouts. Help please. I also need to be able for the turnout side rail to be the common rail for another turnout. The original templates were produced on v91c but I dont think this should have made a difference I just have forgotten how I did it.Any help gratefully received. posted: 7 Jun 2017 19:38 from: Martin Wynne Hi ...
... doesn't (my problem, nothing to do with Templot) but the Keyboard Shortcuts list shows CTRL-F10 as ZOOM and F10 as SWELL Regards, Dick posted: 25 Aug 2012 12:35 from: Martin Wynne dickc wrote: I know how to swap end to end the control template using CTRL-N but how can I do the same with grouped templates please? Hi Dick, For a turnout, swapping a template end-for-end swaps the direction from facing to trailing (or back) on the same alignment. For a plain track template it swaps the origin for the rail lengths and sleeper spacings to the opposite end. I'm a bit puzzled why you would want to do that for an entire group of templates at the same time? Did you mean a single background template? To do that you must first delete it to the control template, and then store it again afterwards. On the other hand, I'm guessing that what you really want is to move the peg to the opposite end of one template in a group ...
... Click main-copy to the control 3. Click template-mint from currentnull 4. Click gauge- modify current settings- modify track gauge Your current track gauge is shown as 'modified track gauge between rails' and we need to change this to the distance between two conductor rails outboard of the running rails, in my example above= 28.35mm. Click OK 1876_280607_400000000.png 1876_280609_200000000.png null 5. The control template is now at the new gauge. (if you have moved the peg to the wrong position, the control template may be aligned on one of the background template running rails as in the above image. If so, click on the background template- checking first that the peg is the same end as the control template- then Main- peg align/tools- align the control template over and snake on to peg- facing to facing.) 6. You can use Ctrl+ F6 to slide the template through the peg until it is in your required location. You can lengthen it using F4 but don't extend it beyond the peg or the ...
... the clear length in the platform. This has created a nice tandem turnout for the short siding. On the right you had a sharp facing slip road in the running line, which didn't look good. I have replaced it with a half-scissors arrangement on that side. This will mean moving the signal box a little. The trailing slip road is ok in that position. Both slips are based on irregular diamonds to best match your original, so as you see all the slips roads include a transition curve to maintain alignment with the slip switches. 2_081606_420000001.png 2_081606_420000002.png 2_081606_420000003.png 2_081606_420000004.png I have left the storage sidings unfinished as I understand this area is still undecided. The .box file is attached below. Note that no timber shoving has been done. Over to you for that. p.s. I see that I have forgotten to adjust the K-crossing check rails on the yard double slip. Over to you to do that. regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_2302_2884_knuckles_knapford _unshoved_1.box 302 posted: 9 Jun 2016 21:45 from: Gavin Rose Many many ...
36. Slips
... English I'd be grateful posted: 6 Mar 2011 11:36 from: Martin Wynne sm wrote: I have no clue what TCP or MCP means Hi Stuart, See the "gentle geometry" page in the Templot Companion at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_geometry.htm#peg_positions from which: peg on FP -- Sets the fixing peg at the Fine-Point of a V-crossing (the rail gauge-face intersection point). Repeatedly selecting peg on FP (CTRL-4) toggles the peg alignment between the main road and the turnout road. The fine-point is a little way in front of the actual nose of the vee, which is blunted off to a width of 3/4" (scale) on bullhead track. 2_160721_340000000.png red_pointer.gif Do not confuse this Fine-Point at the gauge-face intersection with the term "frog point". This means the location of the blunt nose of the vee and is also sometimes abbreviated to FP, for example in North America (where the nose is usually ...
... Templot wouldn't create these automatically on transition curves? Just curious, as I want to learn! posted: 11 Feb 2014 14:59 from: Martin Wynne Ariels Girdle wrote: Incidentally, how are you planning to draw the diamond crossings, as I thought Templot wouldn't create these automatically on transition curves? Hi Ariels Girdle, Not automatically, but it's not difficult to do: Move the peg to the intersection, then geometry> constant radius. Repeat for the other track if it's also a transition. make diamond-crossing align the main road of each half-diamond over the underlying transition template. Adjust the V-crossing angle using F9 mouse action on each half-diamond until it best aligns with the underlying templates. Don't change the K-crossing angle. Not always a perfect fit, but usually close enough in practice. If you want a perfect fit, it's necessary to split out all the crossings onto partial templates, and copy the closure rails from the underlying templates. regards, Martin. posted: 11 Feb 2014 16: ...
... by leo_sandstrom posted: 20 Oct 2011 22:42 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Leo, Looking at your new PNG image file, what you did regarding the turnout shortening down to the switch blade end of planning is correct, see PNG reply file below Figure 1, with the big red tick sign. (also see explanation image below, Figure 2, that Martin did and posted some time ago showing where the end of planning is located). However one thing I did note was, you should leave the originally set alignment curves (or straights) in position on the workpad overlaying the diamond, so that you can use them to align and position the four (4) switch blades required by the slip, these can be removed later once the blades are in the correct required positions. The first thing is to save your switch blade template which can be used for all four slip switches. Next copy the switch blade template to the control. Now it is important to know which way to add the switch blades, as a guide, ...
39. Outside slip
... beyond their boundaries, both in using Templot and Design. Regards Dave posted: 27 Nov 2008 20:18 from: JimH Hi David, Impressive work! Could you tell me which tutorials you used to learn how to to all this? I'm going to work through them all ultimately, but I would like to start off in the right direction. Regards, Jim posted: 23 May 2009 02:36 from: pimin Having great fun designing an outside slip. However, I cannot figure out how to get a V aligned on some intersecting check rails. Using multiple templates I can create a space for the flangeways. Some clues would be appreciated. Video How-to's, previous discussions, etc would be great. I'm probably searching on the wrong keywords. TIA, Paul posted: 23 May 2009 07:58 from: Stephen Freeman Hi, I assume you are trying to aligh a common crossing rather than just a vee. You can align either on the Fine Point (FP), so it's just a question of setting the peg ...
... times. The above 2 methods can cope with having a transition curve in the main road, although you will probably need to follow up with some adjustments to the transition zone to get the desired result. 3. Start with two lengths of curved plain track crossing over each other, or one curved and one straight length. One should be a background template and the other the control template. Click on the background template (in Quick-mode, right-click on it). On its menu, click peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at intersection menu item. Follow the instructions and wait a moment while Templot does the calculations. You will then need to split the underlying original background template and shorten each half back accordingly. The method won't work for transition curves, it is for straights and fixed-radius curves only. Also it is very easy when testing to have the tracks crossing at too short an angle. Templot can't produce crossings shorter than 1: 1.5 RAM( i.e. not more than 33.7 degrees). ...
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