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... topic: 3533 Outside Slip Help posted: 25 Oct 2019 09:19 from: Alan Kettlewell Hello, A bit of help would be appreciated with this outside slip I'm making. I'm having difficulty getting the two switch exit roads to align- instead I'm getting doubling of the rails. A template is attached. Grateful for any advice please as toy where I'm going wrong. Many thanks. Alan Attachment: attach_2932_3533_Outside_Slip_AK.b ox 142 posted: 25 Oct 2019 13:13 from: Tony W Hi Alan. The short answer is that you have two turnouts curved to very different radii. Without knowing how critical the alignment of the approach tracks are, it is difficult to say what is the best way to proceed. However the usual approach with outside slips is to align the two turnouts albeit mirror image to each other first and then add the diamond afterwards. Regards Tony. posted: 25 Oct 2019 14:32 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, Outside slips are not straightforward, as you found. Tony's method usually works for regular diamonds, but ...
... , but seeing what you have done here actually makes me want to get on and make it! Thanks again. Rich Last edited on 3 May 2016 01:24 by RK posted: 5 May 2016 02:13 from: RK Hi Martin et all, Thought i'd just post a quick update. I decided to put the depot tracklayout in next. As this is going to be quite a large layout, the depot will be built first, and the aim is to make it removable so that it can be displayed outside for photography and the like. Hence i've used Martin's file as the base template and added the depot layout. Ideally I would have liked a 12-20inch straight between the first point on the layout and the first point on the depot, to allow space for an exit signal and the like, but space is at a premium so that is one of the concessions. When the depot is on its own I want to be able to portray a busy depot, so standing area has a higher priority. All looks ...
23. Outside Slip
... topic: 2427 Outside Slip posted: 21 Mar 2014 12:56 from: Graham Idle undefined Hi, this is my first attempt at building an outside slip, but I don't know where to start. I have built points before but never anything as complicated at this. Could anyone tell me a tried and tested construction sequence so I can try? This is the one piece of trackwork that will determine whether I will build my proposed layout, if I can't build this, it's back to the drawing board. Regards, Graham 13_210747_060000000.png posted: 21 Mar 2014 15:47 from: Phil O It's been sometime since I built an outside slip, but I would start with the "V" crossings at each end followed by the "K" crossings. I would the put in the slip rail closure between the "V "s you can then gauge the other slip rail in and the rest is like building a turnout or diamond. Cheers Phil posted: 21 Mar 2014 17:41 from: Paul Boyd Hi Graham I've built a ...
... topic: 1675 Double Outside Slip ?? posted: 1 Nov 2011 23:03 from: Rob Manchester Hi all, Any brave person like to make me a template for an outside slip like the one Martin kindly showed us at :- gallery/46/original/46_060821_570000000.jpg I am thinking around a plan for a small O scale (32mm gauge)layout and one of these would be just great. I haven't the experience in Templot to do one myself. A 1:4 angle would be about right. Thanks in anticipation. Rob posted: 3 Nov 2011 10:39 from: Raymond Rob Manchester wrote: Hi all, Any brave person like to make me a template for an outside slip like the one Martin kindly showed us at :- gallery/46/original/46_060821_570000000.jpg I am thinking around a plan for a small O scale (32mm gauge)layout and one of these would be just great. I haven't the experience in Templot to do one myself. A 1:4 angle would be about right. Thanks ...
... topic: 3097 Outside single slip posted: 7 Oct 2017 22:45 from: Bryan Hardwick I am planning a layout in OO based on the track plan of Gordon and Maggie Gravett's 7mm layout Arun Quay. Rather than a quay it will be a factory complex with the viewing side on the opposite side to the original. Here is a Xtrkcad drawing of the track plan:- 3469_071734_100000000.jpg The diamond crossing on the right should be a single slip but there are no proprietary outside single slips to fit so I am creating a template in templot for such, I have got this far:- 3469_071742_260000000.jpg I have got stuck creating the common crossings at A and B; what is the best thing to do? I suspect I have gone about the whole thing the wrong way! Cheers Bryan Bryan V Hardwick posted: 7 Oct 2017 23:24 from: Martin Wynne Hi Bryan, That looks very promising. There are some notes about creating an outside slip in this topic: topic 2931- message 20789 The method 1. there creates the additional ...
... turn on below-minimum-radius rail highlighting? I've googled my fingers to the bone, and all I've discovered is that: The red rail (Aphanapteryx bonasia) is an extinct species of flightless rail. It was endemic to the Mascarene island of Mauritius, east of Madagascar in the Indian Ocean. which isn't close to the answer I was looking for, but might be effectively correct if I can't do it. The reason I am asking is I have laid out a minimum radius curve, added a turnout to the outside of the curve, and made its V-crossing a parallel track type so the diverging route also curves back around. It sort of makes sense that to get back to parallel the outer track would have to at some point go below the radius of the main track, but I'd like to have the bad section highlighted while I mess around trying to minimize it. posted: 21 Sep 2020 12:58 from: Martin Wynne Hi Jerry, Welcome to Templot Club. There isn't a function to show filled rails on ...
... topic: 1756 Outside slip design posted: 31 Dec 2011 15:20 from: LSWRArt I have successfully used the video tutorial to design an inside slip, and I also found a written tutorial on making slips, but I was not sure how to apply either of these to an outside slip (see enclosed trackplan) I thought I could just use the diamond crossing notes from the web-site (which look really easy to use), but I do not think this will work for two reasons:- the crossing is too close to the turnout, and you cannot have both a crossing and the turnout in the same template- I have got both plain track and a turnout with the joint between them in the middle of the proposed crossing. Is there a way to extend the <loop to industrial siding> turnout's left hand road without extending the main road? F4 extends both and I obviously need to keep the main (right hand) road the length it is now. Or is there another way to solve this problem? ...
28. Fishplates
... topic: 747 Fishplates posted: 1 Mar 2009 19:42 from: richard_t I asked on a recent thread, about the bonding of TC's over fishplates. I was out on Friday, and this first shot shows a fishplate with the bonding wires on the outside of the rail. I've tried to work out some of the lengths between the holes. On the left the holes are vertically aligned and around 25" from the end of the rail, whereas the holes on the right are horizontally aligned, with one being 22.5" and the other 24.5" from the end of the rail. This shot was at Carpenders Park on the DC lines, so the fishplate on the other rail was DC bonded with a much thicker cable. Note how the wires have been tucked inbetween the rail and the chairs and the larger joint chairs. Richard. Attachment: attach_501_747_fpb2.jpg 669 Last edited on 1 Mar 2009 19:51 by richard_t posted: 1 Mar 2009 19:49 from: richard_t The next shot I think is a little more interesting- this ...
... of steps to reach it. Regarding the GIF 'Sketchboard' image of the signal bow, I have put some paving at the steps end of the image, just to fill in the empty space, this I might add, is a bit of 'artistic licence' on my part as I am not sure what the original site was like and have no photographs as a guide. A little bit of data for those who are interested; Measured and estimated proto dimensions of the Eastbourne signal box are shown below: Length of cabin outside wall to wall, not including the roof overhanging eaves= 53ft 4in Width of cabin outside wall to wall, not including the roof overhanging eaves= 14ft 6in Overall length of box including the roof overhanging eaves, not including steps= 57ft 0in Overall width of box including the roof overhanging eaves= 18ft 0in Height from ground to signal box cabin platform (top of steps)= 18ft 6in Overall height of signal box from ground to ridge of roof, not including flue pipe and ventilators= 34ft BTW, I think I ...
... topic: 926 Gauge O branch line posted: 1 Sep 2009 22:17 from: Paul Heath Here is my plan for a branch line terminus station based along the lines of the Furness Railway branches to Coniston and Lakeside. I would welcome any comments on the plan. Items 16 and 40 will eventually form a double slip (if I can get my head around working with partial templates etc). There will be an island platform in the large open space with the outside left hand edge of the railway representing a Quay side location. Attachment: attach_641_926_Deck_Railway_Versio n_4.box 413 posted: 2 Sep 2009 10:18 from: Stephen Freeman Hi, Have just had a quick look. Two things strike me first off. 1) A fairly minor point but you might like to consider widening the track centres in the sidings and possibly in the curved areas (depends on the rolling stock you intend to use of course) 2) The Double Slip that you propose, will have an unworkable inner radius. You will need to have the inner curve of ...
... test track and somewhere to play trains between jobs. Based upon GW circa 1900 I think I have got it just about right now but if anyone can see a blooper I'd appreciate you telling me. It's like proof reading I suppose, proofing one's own stuff is not a good idea because one 'knows' what it should be. Seasons greetings to one and all. Regards Raymond Attachment: attach_960_1322_Private_sidings_ne w_10f.box 464 posted: 29 Dec 2010 15:31 from: wcampbell23 I noticed that one of the long checkrails is adjacent to the outside rail of the curve rather than adjacent to the usual inside rail. Is there a reason for this? Regards Bill Campbell posted: 29 Dec 2010 16:20 from: Raymond Hi Bill, Yes there is, ignorance. That's exactly the sort of thing I was hoping someone would point out. I'll change it pronto, thank you. Regards Raymond posted: 30 Dec 2010 11:19 from: JFS Hi Raymond, Just to add to Bill's point, the same is also true of the road leading to the ...
... topic: 3642 C&L OO outside single slip posted: 25 Apr 2020 14:57 from: mikewturner Hi guys Has anyone either redrawn this in templot or scanned it as a background shape please? I always rely on the office scanner but can't access it at present as I'm working from home. Regards and stay safe Mike posted: 25 Apr 2020 19:35 from: Martin Wynne Hi Mike, Can you clarify what you want? As far as I can see, C&L do not supply an outside slip template. I'm happy to create one in Templot for you, but I need to know exactly what you want. 1. crossing angle? Common sizes for outside slips are 1:4.5 or 1:5. 2. track gauge? 16.2mm for 4-SF/ 00-SF, or 16.5mm for 00-BF. For diamonds and slips you can't use the same template for both. 3. radius in the crossing roads if not straight? 4. timbering scale? 3.5mm/ft as C& ...
... slips... posted: 23 Mar 2017 17:51 from: johndon I'm relatively new at Templot but I think I've got the hang of the basics. The image below is part of a track plan I'm developing. So far, I've been concentrating on getting the turnouts in the right place and I've been using plain track just to get everything lined up. As you can see from the screenshot, there needs to a a diamond at the top left and, in the centre, what I guess would be an outside single slip? Question, is, how do I get from the simple overlays that I've done so far to the actual formations? Screen-Shot-2017-03-23-at-16.27.19.png posted: 23 Mar 2017 18:50 from: Phil O The way I would go ab out the diamond is to make a copy of one of the roads and insert a half diamond and adjust the overal length to bring the 'V" into the correct place and then use the F9& F10 buttons to get an ...
... Nick posted: 28 Jan 2010 01:14 from: Martin Wynne Nick R wrote: I've downloaded the irreg_double_junct.box file and will take a look. Assuming I can work out how to do it with partial templates, are there any gotchas in store when I attempt to change it into a double slip? Hi Nick, A quick look suggests that the K-crossings will be about 1:3.5. So an ordinary inside slip is out of the question for any sensible radius. So it will have to be a double outside slip. A picture of one such is at: http://85a.co.uk/forum/view_gallery_single.php?display=ALL&page=1 regards, Martin. posted: 28 Jan 2010 08:39 from: Nick R Martin Wynne wrote: A quick look suggests that the K-crossings will be about 1:3.5. So an ordinary inside slip is out of the question for any sensible radius. So it will have to be a double outside slip. Yes, I'd wondered about that and was concerned that ...
... is a phenomenal piece of work. Congratulations on achieveing that. I'm sure that will enable more people to be able to realise their dream layout as following all the individual steps necessary to make a single or double slip would have put off a significant number of people. I shouldn't have been quite so eager to get my Station throat designed with its array of double slips. Perhaps I'll be able to revisit it soon and get a better arrangement. I assume that the different constraints imposed by a 1:5 crossing requiring an outside slip will still mean I have to tackle that manually. Don't take that as a complaint though as I fully recognise the effort you must have put in to get this working for inside slips. Downside for me now is that there is talk of house moving just as I get my 9x3.4m loft space ready for building. I'll just have to hope that some aspiring modeller will be so taken with the space they will pay over the odds to get it for a new project so that I can get something similar when the ...
... 22 from: Martin Wynne Thanks all for the feedback and kind words. Dave, you wrote: I'm all sorted... now happily using make-on-click mode Which surprised me, because "happy" and "make-on-click mode" have never before occurred in the same sentence. At least not for me, and not for a lot of other users. But they weren't beginners. And times change -- now that we have the make slip and make tandem functions (and hopefully make outside slip in future and possibly others), the need to work with overlaid partial templates is much reduced. Possibly eliminated for many users. I'm wondering therefore, whether to have "make-on-click mode" as the default? This doesn't prevent anyone switching back to the classic mode if they prefer, and the setting is included in the saved program preferences. Would that make life easier for beginners? And possibly reduce the incidence of duplicate templates which seem to bedevil some users. It would need a bit of ...
... diverging route to the goods and engine sheds combs into the existing track just before the slip. Having said that, I'll have a go ;) posted: 4 Jan 2012 09:47 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian, Are you sure you need a separate yard headshunt on such a small plan? You could shunt to the main line, and that would leave the existing headshunt free as an extra siding. That would also mean that only a single slip is needed. There is just about room to get an an outside slip road in, and some much easier turnout sizes: 2_040441_510000000.png If there is a baseboard join at the 7ft mark you would need to move the whole plan about an inch to the left -- and some very careful carpentry to put the joint through an outside slip: 2_040440_560000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 4 Jan 2012 09:53 from: RedgateModels hmmmm, still a no-goer, the V ends up right next to the joint even if I overlap the two toe ends by a couple of sleepers. ...
38. Tandem Points
... recalled another location... Crewe Coal Sidings... General view... This shows the first sole plate nicely. There is a point clip on the left hand blade of the second set of blades- if you look one timber closer to the camera in the right hand part of the 4ft way you will see an insulated joint in a sole plate 3017_120141_210000000.jpg When the above is edited/enlarged the second sole plate is clearer... 3017_120145_380000000.jpg I think that the lug on the soleplate that is on the outside of the chair on the right (to stop the chair being shifted outwards out-of-gauge) is just visible. Interesting thing about this though is that the sole plate is not under the blades' ends but one timber closer to the camera. posted: 12 Mar 2015 07:01 from: D Foster :-) Couldn't resist this one in the search... No sign of a soleplate- but... Outside Single Slip with a Trap Point in it... And this is ...
... chair. For three bolt chairs use four bolt chairs for the check rails trimmed back as above. Have a good look at drawings and pictures before you start. Don't forget to get some bridge chairs for the locations where ordinary chairs will not fit. There are useful topics on RMweb about trackbuilding and these often have useful pictures. Next thing to ask about- tie bars! Regards. One problem is that the available 3 bolt chairs are not of the correct pattern. Exactoscale make the correct chair(2 bolts on the outside) in 4mm but not 7mm (at least not yet), so it might be worthwhile contacting them to find out the likelihood or otherwise of production in 7mm scale. posted: 11 Jan 2012 10:42 from: richard_t One could use the Midland pattern, 4-bolt, chairs cut up for the check rail chairs, on the ones from Daivd R via Shapeways. posted: 11 Jan 2012 13:40 from: LSWRArt Thanks for all the useful input. Now to start getting the bits to France ...
... lens hoods. With my new-found brand new (but 25 years old at least) 49mm-55mm converter ring I can now use all this stuff on the X100F all over again. But of course at that diameter the rubber hood is obstructing the optical viewfinder rather severely, even when folded back. The big difference on the X100F is that you can flick to and from the electronic viewfinder instead (or even have both at once). So I've also now ordered a 49mm rubber lens hood. I'm assuming the outside diameter is also smaller than the 55mm ones, and not just the fixing collar. Also a spare battery on your recommendation, and a 49mm click-fit lens cap. This topic seems to be drifting further and further from Templot. I'm grateful to you and Nigel for rekindling my interest in this old photographic stuff from the 1970s. Having bought the X100F at the end of last year I've done little more than use it straight out of the box so far. The possibility of treating it as an upgrade to the ...
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