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... .. I think the branch should have 'normal' through to the buffers of the shorter, lower platform road. that involves making the branch to the longer, upper platform connection to be worked as a crossover. regards, Rodney Hills Can't see any problem with that, and again reflects the arrangements at Exmouth. Here's a further revised drawing making that change, with my tentative stab at laying out the frame. I think I've managed to avoid any pull betweens, but if I haven't it shouldn't be difficult to make appropriate adjustments in the lever positioning. 2129_260739_180000000.png In view of the similarities with the Exmouth layout I have assumed this is a Stevens frame for the LSWR and incorporated push/pull levers for some of the discs. posted: 26 Jul 2017 18:49 from: Phil O Can I ask if the loop is signalled, please? posted: 27 Jul 2017 00:18 from: John Palmer Phil O wrote: Can I ask if the loop is signalled, please? Yes, by 13 Push/Pull and 29 Push/ ...
... altered the small spaced version much but merely tided things up as best I can. I have also got rid of the unused background templates in the storage box. In the storage box window under the Box drop down menu, Delete unused templates. To be used with care. Box file attached. Regards Tony. Hi Tony,Thanks again for all your efforts- Having had a final glance at what you have done, which is much appreciated I have increased the tightest V on the 3-way to a 6 and adjusted the crossover point accordingly. This hasn't reduced the length of the headshunt or the run round loop, from what I can see anyway and also eased the tightest radius to 5ft, which is much more practical. Hopefully this will now be the final revision. In doing this I have obviously had to change your nicely tidied up three way and am unsure if I have kept it true in doing so, and therefore perhaps wondered if you would had 5 minutes you could give it a quick once over. Thanks Again, ...
... guide. This has the advantage over using a screenshot as a background picture shape in that you can zoom in without it becoming pixellated and so work to greater precision. So I thought I would post a new topic containing some old notes about this. There is an old page showing Templot tracks designed over a DXF import from XTrackCAD at: http://85a.co.uk/ision/rene_tandem.htm Like this: rene_tandem4.gif Note that the tracks shown in grey are background shapes imported from XTrackCAD, they are not Templot templates and cannot be adjusted using the usual Templot controls. But they can be overlaid as a design guide, and using the notch it is possible to align templates to them precisely: geometry> notch> notch on background shape menu item. The maximum number of background shapes which Templot can support is 32000. For this reason, when exporting a DXF file from a large XTrackCAD track plan for use in Templot, it is very advisable to export the track centre-lines only, without the rails and sleepers (ties) -- i.e. ...
... not a native speaker and it's hard to understand what various menus actually mean. Could you please tell, which menu and which option should I choose to change timber spacing to 1.4 millimiters between edges? Thank you very much in advance. Hi Tim, Welcome to Templot Club. The timbering data in Templot is based on the prototype dimensions (real railway sizes). Generally the spacing is not constant. The various special chairs (rail fixings) must fit the rails in specific locations. Which means the timber positions must be adjusted to support them. This page explains where to find the menu items for each section of a turnout: http://templot.com/companion/timber_spacings_overview.php timber_spacings_899x436.png Timber spacing is always specified from the centre of one timber to the centre of the next one, not by setting the gap between them. For Z gauge the scale is 1:220. If the gap between them is 1.4mm, that means on the prototype it is 1.4 x 220= 308mm. If your prototype timbers are say 250mm(?) wide ...
... provide a way for members to do links to the Templot Companion we could all make them which would surely fill the empty spaces. However if you felt that would mess Companion up perhaps being able to do the same on a separate wiki as suggested previously could provide a way forward. Hi Trevor, I've no idea how this is going to work, but I have set up a Templot wiki at: http://templot.com/templot_wiki/ As a trial page I have created a copy of the incomplete program notes for adjusting check rail ends: http://templot.com/templot_wiki/index.php?title=Check_rails_and_wing_rails Which anyone can edit or add to. I have linked this page into the Templot Companion at: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?check_and_wing_rails.htm (You may need to press F5 in your browser to see it. It may take a second or two to appear.) Any changes you make on the wiki page will appear in the Companion when you press F5 on there. You can also edit it directly from ...
426. Making crossing vees
... . posted: 6 Jan 2018 22:40 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, Yes, I have one of those sanders in the woodwork kit except it is blue with a different 'makers' name on it. I also have one of these :- 210577_xl.jpg It is a Proxxon TG 125/E and is excellent for more delicate modelling tasks. It is variable speed and just hums quietly when in use. About £160 now I think. Good method for the crossing vees Martin. You can of course make an adjustable jig for holding the assembly on the disc sander table if you wish. Rob posted: 7 Jan 2018 10:51 from: John Palmer I have the Scheppach version of these disc/belt sanders and can also attest to how useful they are. I got acceptable results from the disc sander as a grinder of the backs of switch blades, using an easily fabricated hardwood jig with clamping screw to present the rail to the disc. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting ...
... in the model it automatically merges together with the chair models. In fact the position of the chairs is not very critical. The most important thing is to ensure that the rail model follows the rail in the template imported from Templot. Turbocad has a "sweep" function that creates the rail model by sweeping a profile along the line on the template with a single click of the mouse. Thereafter the precise position of the rail is determined purely by the accuracy of the 3D printing process. No more messing about trying to adjust the rail position Andy Last edited on 15 Jan 2018 18:32 by Andrew Barrowman posted: 15 Jan 2018 19:20 from: Martin Wynne Andrew Barrowman wrote: As you can see the first P chair is clonking into the L1 chair. How might this be handled on the real thing? Hi Andy, It depends which specific prototype you are modelling? Finding one matching 16.2mm gauge is a bit of a challenge. On the GWR it is an angled bolted half chair instead of the L1. Here's Phil's pic ...
... see this page: http://templot.com/companion/3_way_tandem_turnouts.php which I shall be expanding in the next few days. Plus a few other minor changes and bug-fixes. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Jan 2018 11:18 from: John Palmer Very impressed by the tandem making functions, as I've always struggled with single sided tandems. However, I hit a problem when playing around with these functions. I created a single sided left hand tandem based on a C9 REA initial configuration, then started to adjust the timbering. I shortened some of the through timbers, then made the branch track template the control. When I attempted to roll rails on the the branch track with Ctrl+ F4, the sleepers of the branch track completely disappeared, as the attached image shows. 2129_150558_010000000.png As soon as I click the screen to de-activate the mouse-controlled roll rails function the sleeper display returns, but for practical purposes the value of the 'roll rails' function has been lost because I can no longer see where the sleepers ...
429. Way-beams
... 18:35 from: Phil O I am unable to have a look on Google Earth,to check, but most if not all the railway bridges over the Thames in London were on way beams. Phil. Last edited on 19 Apr 2018 18:36 by Phil O posted: 20 Apr 2018 14:34 from: Judi R Longitudinal timbers are used where vertical clearances are tight because they save the depth (and weight) of the ballast. They are directly fastened to the steel bridge beams so it's difficult to adjust alignment and are usually tolerated only where necessary in slow speed areas. Yes, I know there are high-speed exceptions. The long timbers are usually 12" x 12" and sometimes bigger, up to 18" x 18", and the cross timbers- the transoms- are usually around 6" x 6" and are paired with a steel tie rod to strap the whole lot tight to hold the gauge. Judi R Last edited on 20 Apr 2018 14:35 by Judi R posted: 4 May ...
... case it would likely be a short 1:5 or 1:6 turnout or similar. p.s. no doubt it is a work in progress, but you may not have noticed that there are a couple of check rails missing in your tandem: 2_151712_420000000.png cheers, Martin. posted: 15 Jul 2018 23:13 from: ScottW Thanks, Martin the video is a great help. Yes, I need to get round to finishing off the tandem. As well as altering the check rails on the tandem I need to adjust the timbers on the facing turnout leading into the loop. Another question has just come into my head, would there have been any requirement for another catch point at the station end of the run round loop (left hand end of the plan)? Thanks, Scott posted: 16 Jul 2018 18:51 from: Phil O There was a thread on RMWeb about that and the conclusion is there seems to be no hard and fast rules on the subject. Some places had fpl's and some didn't. There would be ...
... posted: 5 Mar 2016 21:06 from: Martin Wynne Hi Stuart, If the background shapes extend beyond the area of the track plan templates, you need to select the fit shapes export option for the image boundary: 2_051556_070000000.png Alternatively, you can draw a rectangle outline on the trackpad to define the image boundary. To do that, click the tool button which is the 4th item from the top left of the trackpad (to the left of the sketchboard button) and draw a rectangle. There are mouse actions to adjust each edge precisely if needed. Then select the boundary rectangle option above when exporting. Note that if you are exporting to metafiles, no part of a background shape will be included in the file if that shape isn't entirely contained within the image boundary. This also applies when creating or updating the trackplan item on the sketchboard*. *unless the raster (bitmap) option is selected when adding the trackplan item manually. regards, Martin. posted: 5 Mar 2016 21:19 from: stuart1600 I had seen that ...
432. Centering Sleepers
... Oct 2019 13:43 from: johndon Excellent idea, thanks Phil. John posted: 4 Oct 2019 16:48 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, Sorry, there is no automatic function to do that. Even if you use a partial plain track template, the sleepers won't be at the required spacing and will need shoving and/or twisting to fit between the main-road sleepers. However, there is a trick you can use to help. If you temporarily add a turnout-side platform, you can adjust the front edge to provide a guide line. Set the front edge spacing... to half of your current plain sleeper length. I assume for NER you have set 9ft sleepers, so half that is 54 inches: 2_040900_520000000.png Then you can use the throw mouse action in the shove timbers to align the end of each sleeper to the line. cheers, Martin. posted: 4 Oct 2019 18:31 from: johndon Thanks Martin, appreciated. John Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript ...
... I can re-draw it but how do I remover it please? Thanks, Howard Last edited on 16 Jul 2019 12:22 by JFS posted: 16 Jul 2019 13:09 from: Martin Wynne JFS wrote: One other question- having created the boundary rectangle, I can re-draw it but how do I remove it please? Hi Howard, Just draw another one -- but don't. i.e. select the tool-button, then instead of dragging, just click. There are mouse actions to adjust it precisely: 2_160741_240000000.png But I haven't managed to find any spare keyboard shortcuts for them. And: 2_160755_520000000.png That's at sketchboard> set boundary rectangle... menu item, and also the set... button on the output> export a file dialog, but the easy way to find it is to click the blue dimension showing on the mouse action panel, in the usual way. It's called the output boundary because that's its primary purpose -- to control how much of a track plan is included in exported ...
... allowing me to place the track where i want it. It clicks either to the left or the right of the next track and i guess there's a way to get the movement finer, but i can't seem to figure it out. posted: 23 Jul 2019 19:42 from: Martin Wynne Hi Tom, Welcome to Templot Club. You can set a finer mouse response when you need it, but for general track planning it's not normally needed. The red fixing peg should lock the curve onto the turnout while you adjust the radius. It sounds as if you are having trouble with F7 snapping. You can prevent snapping by holding down the SHIFT key on the keyboard. However that's not normally part of the curving function. I have made you a short bit of video showing how to add a curved track onto a turnout, and how to select a finer mouse response if you need it. Here's the video, sorry it's scruffy: http://flashbackconnect.com/Default.aspx?id=R2VeMElPVWAGNRZhg44n6A2 Ask again if it's not clear, and ...
... changes/ re-do changes function. If you hold down the SHIFT+ CTRL keys, you can roll to and fro through recent changes to the control template using the mouse wheel. This is very convenient when looking for a template which you forgot to store, or to put in the parking bay for later. You can then roll forward again, back to where you were. There are 80 slots in the rollback register, which sounds a lot. But it fills up surprisingly quickly once you start shoving timbers or adjusting check rails, or splitting partial templates. So don't rely on this if you know you will need a previous control template -- store it unused or put it in the parking bay (do> parking bay> menu items). If stored unused it will be in your .box file and storage box next time. Templates in the parking bay are lost at the end of the session (but are faster to access). regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also ...
436. Transition curves
... topic: 3475 Transition curves posted: 4 Aug 2019 14:37 from: Terry Schroeyens Hello, In the attached, I want to link PR071 to PR070 or rather the two crossovers TL058 and TR065 using the peg/align make transition curve. Templot says it's not possible. Similar problem linking PR045 to PL043. Terry Attachment: attach_2870_3475_Cirencester_2019 _08_04_1526_59.box 127 posted: 4 Aug 2019 15:03 from: Martin Wynne Hi Terry, It is not mathematically possible to create a transition curve if the two curves intersect. You need to adjust the radius of one or the other or both of the templates until the track centre-lines do not quite intersect, like this: 2_040956_150000000.png Sometimes it is necessary to temporarily extend the length of the templates to see this. The length of the resulting transition zone is determined by the size of the gap you leave between them. This is the result of the above: 2_040956_160000001.png It now needs to be extended to fit the previous space -- more info at: http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.php cheers ...
... is of a smaller radius than the inner bits of the tread, which is what gets supported by the crossing nose and knuckle. So what happens if the tyre width is sufficiently small that the bottom of the tread doesn't make contact with the wing rail. What will happen is that, because the wing rail moves inwards as it approaches the knuckle, contact will occur with a bit of the tread which isn't right at the bottom. So a further drop may happen. The point is, as we're talking about very fine adjustments here, if the wheel width is reduced from 2.25 to 2.0 mm, is that further drop going to be significant? My guess is that it isn't. Thoughts? Nigel posted: 11 Aug 2019 19:16 from: Martin Wynne Nigel Brown wrote: You're likely to get some degree of wheel drop anyway, due to the fact the wheel treads are coned and so the outer rim of the tread, which is what gets supported (by the wing rail) as the wheel passes across the crossing gap, is ...
... content into the Companion. It won't have escaped your notice that although the format has changed, there is still very little content. I'm hoping to do something about this soon. regards, Martin. posted: 20 May 2016 18:50 from: Martin Wynne Here's a quick guide to the navigation icons on mobiles: 2_201344_140000000.png Martin. posted: 21 May 2016 13:08 from: Martin Wynne On tablets and desktops, more functions are available by clicking the More hamburger to display the menu: 2_210802_350000000.png This is useful to adjust the text size, or increase the page area by hiding the header. You can also share the topic on social media if you wish. "Permalink" means the page link for posting in messages here or on other forums. Martin. posted: 24 May 2016 14:10 from: Phil O Hi Martin The App version works for me on PC and tablet. Phil. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> ...
439. Outside Slip Help
... way to proceed. However the usual approach with outside slips is to align the two turnouts albeit mirror image to each other first and then add the diamond afterwards. Regards Tony. posted: 25 Oct 2019 14:32 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, Outside slips are not straightforward, as you found. Tony's method usually works for regular diamonds, but where you have an irregular diamond like this one, you can't mirror the turnouts. Then there is nothing for it but to split the turnouts into multiple partial templates and adjust them to fit. I have done most of the work in the file below -- over to you to do any final tidying up (and the timbering of course). 2_250927_050000000.png Sorry, I don't have time today to write a full step-by-step recipe. I will try to do that soon. File attached. cheers, Martin. Attachment: attach_2933_3533_alan_outside_slip .box 146 posted: 25 Oct 2019 16:19 from: Alan Kettlewell Many thanks for the replies. Martin I'll keep the file you've kindly done ...
... do baulk timbering now, if a bit tedious. It will be in the DXF export. And they will be straight. It's best to do this on the first template, so that it propagates through to the rest of them as you create the track plan. First set the timber width to the requirements for baulk timbers. Then shove each timber into position. Twist it by 90 degrees (click the data... button), crab it across under the rail, and then do the final twist and length adjustments to align under the rail. The shoved timbers will mostly retain their position when curving the template, changing the turnout size, etc., needing only fine tuning for each fresh template. Select the tools> make tools: options> retain shoved timbers setting, so that the shoved timbers are retained in making crossovers, double track, etc. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> ...
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