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... seems to be happening when you try that, most likely you have tried to set a large positive skew (even though it can't appear because you are at the end of the template), and you need to move the mouse a long way to reduce it back into negative territory. I maybe need to look again at the working of this. If Templot has got in a muddle, click the position and length... button, and set the end skew manually to a negative figure. After which you can adjust it with the mouse action to your exact requirements. If you are trying to create a concourse across the end of the platforms, the way to do that is to add a platform to a dummy centre-line-only plain track template. Set the front edge spacing... to say -100 inches (minus), so that the centre-line is hidden below the platform on the output. Using that trick you can create odd-shaped chunks of platform to fill in any spaces, and move ...
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... nose of the V-crossing (called the "lead length") can be changed. This is sometimes done in order to fit a turnout in a given space without changing the switch size or crossing angle. The lead length can be shortened (at the expense of a sharper radius) by increasing the length of the crossing entry straight on a regular-type V-crossing. This may at first seem counter-intuitive, but try it and see -- here's an old bit of video showing the effect of adjusting the length of entry straight (SHIFT+ F11 mouse action). Note that there is no change to the switch size or crossing angle: Allow time for the video to download: Or to lengthen the lead length it is necessary to reduce the entry straight to zero (i.e. generic-type V-crossing). If that's not enough, further lengthening would require changing to a longer switch. regards, Martin. posted: 25 Oct 2016 15:11 from: Stephen Freeman Yes I know, but I ...
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... :52 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, That's a very round-about approach. I don't understand why it is easier to align tracks over an AnyRail plan than over an OS map? Your original plan seemed a close match to the map: 2_191437_230000000.png I was intending to tidy it up for you in places, but if you have now moved to a different prototype presumably this is no longer wanted? Generally the way to get a track aligned over a map is to add 2 short dummy templates some way apart. Adjust them to the map curve using the CTRL+ F10 swell mouse action, and then make a transition curve between them. You can then insert a turnout in it, or split it into new dummy templates to get a better match to the map. See: http://templot.com/companion/swell_function_ctrl_f10.html regards, Martin. posted: 21 Oct 2016 20:43 from: RichardS Hello Martin, thank you for your reply. I don't think it is necessarily easier to align over AR than a map. It ...
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... , as there clearly isn't a running clearance here. Use the dummy vehicle tool to check (as above). cheers, Martin. posted: 5 Apr 2019 15:44 from: wcampbell23 Hi again Just noticed something else that may give you problems. The turnout leading to the inner fiddle yard loops has a very tight minimum radius. As it stands it is a left-hand turnout- re-draw the inner track as a constant radius and then insert a right-hand turnout in place of the LH. Adjust the angle of the V to give a smooth alignment into the second loop. Regards. Bill. posted: 5 Apr 2019 17:11 from: Alan Kettlewell Many thanks for the comments. Well spotted about the big curve being too close, I hadnt noticed it had changed since I did it as it wasn't tight like that. I reckon I must have changed it while tinkering about at the other end of the curves. I'll have a closer look at platform widths and clearances generally and another go at the diamond ...
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... at least a B-6? The turnouts would be longer, but the radius slightly tighter, so the overall size not much different. regards, Martin. Thanks Martin So far It's just a case of getting my head around the program I had another go and ended up with a better fit (the V crossing ended up at 1:5.92) To connect with a section of straight track further on the overall radius of the inner track should be about 42" average over about 6ft length so plenty of scope for adjustments. The main reason of doing it this way is the curviform layout of the junction which saves space anyway. The current layout using Peco track is a 36" turnout and the radius opening out to more more than 48" Latest effort attached. Cheers Keith Attachment: attach_2146_2723_Double_Junction_4 .box 204 posted: 11 Jul 2015 18:09 from: Martin Wynne Hi Keith, Looks good. Now you can practice timber shoving. Don't forget to shift it all into the positive quadrant if you intend to print it. regards, Martin ...
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... does it very well). Perhaps if you could explain where you get stuck we can help, and perhaps relieve some of the load from Martin Don't take this the wrong way, but are you spending an hour a night on the tutorials or an hour every six months? I'm the last person who normally uses tutorials, but when I dived straight into Templot I ground to a halt because, like most people it seems, I was expecting a CAD/Windows type package. The tutorials really did help to re-adjust my mindset and make me understand the way the software works. Most of it seems second nature now, but I'm still finding new things and there are still things I'm aware of being there but don't really understand what they do! -- Paul Boyd [url http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/ [/ url] posted: posted: 16 May 2007 21:12 from: Bob Ellis Hi Paul, What I would like to achieve in the first instance is to produce a track plan for the P4 test ...
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... menu appears on the left. Click the obtain to the control> mint the control template from this menu item. It will be curved to the default 10 chains radius, and placed in the middle of your screen. Click on the background template again. On its menu click the peg/align tools> align the control template over background template> facing-facing menu item. You can now choose to wipe or delete the background template. Don't forget to store the control template in its place. You may need to adjust its length (F4) to fit. If that's not what you meant, I'm sorry, can you have a third go at explaining? regards, Martin. posted: 8 Jul 2015 20:45 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Martin, that is absolutely what I needed. Sorry to have been so troublesome. Thank you so much. regards Godders Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Blank after turnout about ...
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... maths that was necessary Jim. posted: 19 Dec 2009 20:46 from: wcampbell23 Hi Raymond The concept is certainly feasible. The critical bit is to make the curved top (so to speak) at each of the six tracks the SAME radius and each with its own centre point- not concentric- so that the angle that each track meets the entrance road at the same angle. The wagon storage tracks at the top are a little trickier since they must also have the same radius and so, unless they are adjusted after the point of contact, they will converge on each other towards the top of the plan. It would be a good idea to use a wider than normal track centre spacing to avoid problems with the curved traverser tracks converging. Otherwise- it should work fine. Regards Bill. posted: 19 Dec 2009 21:06 from: Martin Wynne Hi Raymond, As Bill says, it should work fine -- providing you create the traverser tracks using the shift functions and not the double-track functions. You may ...
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... it. When you reload the file and copy that template to the control, the radius setting is restored. So to carry on where you left off, just copy the relevant template to the control template before continuing with the next part of the design. Alternatively, you can store library templates with your various settings for this and other options, and copy the required one of those as needed. This is the standard way to use Templot -- copy from a template which contains the desired set of settings, and then adjust it as required for the new work. regards, Martin. posted: 27 Jun 2010 10:41 from: stuart1600 Thanks for the quick response, Martin. I had obviously misunderstood the minimum radius setting, thinking it related to a box-file rather than a template. I may well be in a minority of one (not for the first time!)but setting a minimum radius for the whole layout is actually what I would prefer to do. If the entire layout was the gasworks sidings then obviously a ...
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... topic: 1134 MSL/GCR 1 in 8 Through Crossing posted: 28 May 2010 22:27 from: Bill Fay I have gradually been teaching myself Templot and learning something of track geometry but now I am stumped. Some while ago I obtained from Tony West (GCRS Model Steward) a copy of an 1895 drawing of an MS&L 1 in 8 through crossing. I scanned this (Unfortunately two pages with no overlap) into Templot and adjusted the size and twist to match the basics to a Temploted 1:8 crossing. I have got this as near to correct as I can. It is obvious that there are imperfections in the drawing, partly due to photocopying (probably a number of times) and also inaccuracies in the drawing itself. My first problem is that the 2 crossing fine points and the center of the crossover should line up by the basic laws of geometry, unless I am missing something. For the moment I have put this problem to one side and concentrated on the turnout. Ignoring the sleepers, wing ...
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... original turnout and join it to the through road of the diamond- creating the turnout on the other main line.. Add a straight section of track to the diverging road of the diamond. Make double track (Tools menu again) on this straight section to create the other diverging road and extend this piece of track to cross over the main road. Then select the second turnout you have just copied and roam it along the main track until its divering road lines up with the extended straight track. Once lined up, adjust the length of the straight diverging track to match the end of the diverging road on the second turnout. I think that might just about make sense- simples- maybe. Jim. posted: 26 May 2010 22:24 from: Alan Turner Jim Guthrie wrote: The turnout template created with this operation can now be converted into a diamond. Copy the original turnout and join it to the through road of the diamond- creating the turnout on the other main line.. It's simpler than that you simply make a ...
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... X.XXT-XH" templates rather than background templates in the storage box. The advantages in being that it's quicker to get at the parking bay than trawl though the storage box. When I get time I'll amend the instructions accordingly. posted: 30 Apr 2010 20:08 from: richard_t As promised an updated version of a irregular diamond help/walk through. The method has changed (uses the parking bay, a feature I should use more), but the outcome is the same. There is also a note about adjusting the templates when the diamond lies within a transation (probably also applies to a slew as well). PS: I see Office 2010 doesn't produce any better PDFs Attachment: attach_786_1113_Irregular_Diamond _Demonstration_v2.pdf 499 posted: 4 May 2010 13:22 from: richard_t Updated as I'd noticed a couple of errors (the K-check rails were wrong), and some of the text was also wrong, where I'd cut and pasted. Last update I hope! Attachment: attach_793_1113_Irregular_Diamond _Demonstration_v2.pdf 478 Last edited on 4 May 2010 13:39 ...
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... trying to do is use 24" tie spacing with 6' x 7" x 5" ties throughout. I have attempted to create a custom turnout from the On30 #5 but the tie spacing will not play ball and every time I try the ties under the frog area do not change. Could someone possibly help, I am going round the bend! box file attached Cheers Bruce Attachment: attach_771_1097_On3_track_& _turnouts.box 224 posted: 6 Apr 2010 09:27 from: wcampbell23 Hi Bruce There is an option to adjust the timber spacing for turnouts- open the real menu and select timbering and then timbering data. Try varying the setting for: fill timber spacing I found this necessary when creating templates for 16mm scale 32mm gauge. You will also probably need to shove some timbers to get the appearance satisfactory. Regards Bill Campbell posted: 6 Apr 2010 12:34 from: BruceNordstrand Thanks Bill I'll look into that once I have sorted another self induced problem Cheers Bruce posted: 15 Aug 2010 21:34 from: pearson john BruceNordstrand wrote ...
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... 105_051651_160000001.png The guide templates will eventually get wiped (not deleted) as they start getting in the way. The key point of doing things this way is that when you copy from the guide template, it doesn't matter which section of it you use, any partial templates will always have the same curvature so that the whole formation will flow- in the above screenshot, none of the roads through either diamond are straight. Likewise, if you insert a turnout, the through road will always follow the guide template and you can adjust the crossing angle and position (by roaming) until the turnout road lines up with one of the other guide templates. It strikes me that there ought to be a more detailed guide on all this! Perhaps I'll get around to doing one soon, but not until the Easter week visitations are over with Hopefully this will give you something to be going on with though. Cheers posted: 5 Apr 2010 23:29 from: Martin Wynne Hi Paul, That's great, thanks for posting it. Your first screenshot is ...
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... be only 59ft long. That's a lot more than an occasional 3" short rail on the prototype. I made the decision therefore to run the sleeper spacings along the track centre-line for all curves. This means that if you build half-track and curve it, the spacing won't match the default templates exactly. Provided you build the outer rail first, your track will be correct*, the template will be slightly out. *edit: but see my next message. Those for whom this discrepancy matters can adjust the sleeper spacings by creating a set of custom plain track settings for a suitable range of radii, and use the appropriate setting as required. Someone may care to do that and share the files? If you also want to reproduce the joint stagger and occasional short rail, this can be done by overlaying partial templates. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Mar 2010 20:13 from: Martin Wynne I wrote: if you build half-track and curve it, the spacing won't match the default templates exactly. ...
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... Vee? And a second question; I have seen a method which initially appeals to me of using soldered rivets say every fourth/fifth sleeper with plastic cosmetic chairs in between. Has anyone had experience of this method? Derek posted: 11 Mar 2010 14:42 from: polybear Norman Solomon puts the stock rail in first.... HTH Brian posted: 11 Mar 2010 15:06 from: allanferguson I had always been a dyed in the wool rivets and solder man, and it is undoubtedly strong and easily adjustable. However it undoubtedly the most mind numbingly tedious job I know to mark, punch, and rivet up all the sleepers. (As a Scottish pre- group modeller I use sleepered leads). Of late I have taken to functional plastic sleepers, in my case from C& L, and I have developed confidence in the method. Using the recommended Butanone solvent I have attached plastic chairs to ply sleepers, and have never had any come undone. In extremis I can with a craft knife carefully peel the chairs ...
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... 24-bit Bitmap image (or could save as jpg etc.) and loaded it into Templot as a background picture shape, the x dimension being the actual length available for the layout. This produced a very accurate outline to work from. As the track design progressed I was able to develop/modify the Excel drawing to show shapes for the baseboards, positions for joints and framing, positions for cutouts for WITs, TOUs etc. It is a simple matter to regenerate the Excell drawing into templot as you make your adjustments to track and/or baseboards, to see the result. I ended up with a fully detailed Excel drawing to which I subsequently built my baseboards from. In Excel a 20 row height and 3 column width will produce a square grid. I used one inch (25.4mm) for each square. It worked exceedingly well for me. Derek Below is showing the Windows Paint image file of my drawing done on M/S Excel. 1821_131044_350000000.png posted: 13 Mar 2010 18:26 from: Arthur Budd Many thanks for ...
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... put it in because of the usual 'elf n safety' stuff. It is planned to put one in at Harmans Cross at some stage. I'm impressed that Paul Matthews managed to find a dry day last summer! The plan imposed on a satellite image is brilliant. Phil posted: 16 Feb 2010 18:34 from: Paul Boyd I'm flattered- thank you all for your kind comments! I superimposed the satellite image to get the scale- just off the bottom of the screenshot is a 50ft scale marker, so I adjusted the image over the map in Photoshop until I got the best alignment, then used the 50ft mark with a 200mm grid in Templot to get the scale. The Templot bit isn't perfect, and subsequently looking at a photo of the left hand end (as in the screenshot) shows that the turnout is probably something more like 1:8 or 1:10 with a distinct S-bend to the other platform line. Still, it only took a few hours with just the satellite image and map to work from ...
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... no longer visible. It remains in your storage box as an unused template and can if needed be re-instated as a background template by clicking the copy to background button on the storage box window. Use this option when you want to try making some changes to this template, without losing the option to revert to the previous design. red_pointer.gif Remember to put the modified current template on the background in its place (control> store& background menu item) when you have finished making changes. The template which you are adjusting is the current template, not the one in the box. For delete to current, this background template is deleted from your storage box. Use this option when you are sure that you do not want this template in its present form. You can undo the delete by selecting the edit> undo delete menu item on the storage box, but only if you have made no subsequent deletions from the box.____ Note that the current template is now called "the control template" in version 091c, ...
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... how these servos work. Holding the input at a constant high or low level should not make the slightest difference. In either case the servo will not receive any stimulus to change its position. It is essentially "off". The reason holding it high rather than low might make a difference is because the noise immunity of the input in the low state is really lousy as opposed to merely "not very good" in the high state, but in either case, if noise does mange to trigger the servo it will adjust to an indeterminate position and because there are no subsequent "real" drive pulses, it will remain at that indeterminate position. That doesn't seem like a good thing to me, particularly if a bad point setting launches your latest $200 locomotive off the baseboard and on to the floor Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Trackbuilding topics> Servos for Turnouts about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot ...
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