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... Boyd Hi Nigel That's pretty good for a first attempt! Could you please flesh out the description a bit so we can build a picture of the finished layout in our heads? There are some technical issues though which can be easily fixed. 1- The turnout road on the bottom right turnout has a bit of a dogleg in it! 2- On the LMS main line, there are a number of overlapping templates which I've fixed (see attached) by deleting one template, splitting another to remove the exit track and adjusting the approach length on another. 3- This happens in a few other places, but now you know how to fix it! (eg templates 33/67& 48/49) 4- Your project title is Slattocks Junction! Hope this helps! Attachment: attach_828_1181_slattocks_junction _10_07_27_1838_47.box 350 posted: 27 Jul 2010 19:11 from: nigel bown Paul many thanks for this. the description is based in the 20's to 40's and assumes the Midland and GWR joined up in a small market town to the south of Warwickshire ...
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... templates you want to override all that and set each dimension independently. The difficulty is that there is a lot of them -- 6 dimensions for each check rail and 3 for each wing rail. That's 18 separate dimensions for the wing and check rails in an ordinary turnout template. I have tried to reduce that and group some together, to make setting them all less daunting. But it's still a mess. I'm going to re-work the whole thing yet again in the next upgrade, and make most of it adjustable visually by mouse action, instead of setting dimensions. That's 18 new mouse actions -- all needing a user interface and shortcuts! In the meantime, here is a diagram explaining the current terminology. Everything is referenced from the centre of the "A" timber -- the one supporting the nose of the vee: check_wing_rails.png It is in fact all explained in the F1 Help notes in the program -- here they are again: Wing Rails and Check Rails( Guard Rails) The wing rails are the short lengths ...
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... . Bill posted: 1 Nov 2009 03:28 from: Martin Wynne William Adkins wrote: 1. I would like to make a right hand curved turnout. The outer radius would approximate 32" while the diverging radius would be 30". Is there a way to set each track's radius and then have Templot calculate the appropriate frog ratio, i.e. 1:10, 1:12, etc. for a defined scale and gauge? Hi Bill, What you do is first set the required outer radius. Then adjust the turnout size (V -crossing angle/ frog ratio) using the F5 size mouse action, until the desired inner radius shows in the information panel as the substitution radius: 00_b5_geo.png Note that the actual radius in the rails is likely to be smaller than this. If that's important, watch the minimum radius now box instead. There is more about all this, and a video link, in this topic: topic 397 Is there such a thing as an asymetrical wye turnout? As an example, a right hand ...
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... topic: 963 Adjacent track centres posted: 25 Oct 2009 13:35 from: Dave Summers I know that there is a function in Tools to adjust adjacent track centres, but does anyone have any guidelines as to how much the centres should be increased by? For example; in 7mm scale I plan a double track with minimum radius of 6ft. I want to ensure that should I run, say, 70ft stock on both tracks simultaneously I will avoid a 'coming together'. Is there a function that I haven't found that can give me this or do I calculate it by looking at chords and tangents of circles? Or does someone have a crafty 'rule-of-thumb' for this? I realise that bogie centres etc on each vehicle will influence the answer but I'm looking for a general solution. Any ideas? Cheers Dave posted: 25 Oct 2009 16:39 from: wcampbell23 Hi Dave If you are a member of the Gauge O Guild than I think that the information you need is in the handbook. Regards Bill Campbell ...
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... 59 from: Alan McMillan Hi I've built OHLE on a couple of layouts now and am planning more on a third. I've developed the following method for placing the masts and setting out the wiring pattern. I push ordinary dressmakers pins into the track between the rails at all the important places (toe ends of turnouts, ends of sidings etc) and then string white thread between them, placing further pins at the appropriate points on the layout to signify mast positions between those earlier fixed positions. The pins and thread can be adjusted to give the correct amount of contact wire stagger at each mast position and span midpoints. The threads at mast and portal positions can then be used to create drawn templates for the construction of the wiring supports. Alan McMillan posted: 23 Jun 2010 08:10 from: Jamie92208 Thanks for those replies Martin and Alan. I'd forgotten about bonus timbers but will use them. Fortunately my OLE is all portal's so I can use long timbers that show up easily. The mouse lines give me a fairly good idea of where ...
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... . The State Line tower had a 224 lever interlocking machine. One of the reasons I chose this as a project is the complexity, and the ability to run steam, diesel, and electric (one set of tracks) from several main railroads through one area. I have just barely overlaid the track in the general shape, and have not shoved any timbers, or completed any of the diamonds. I realize that Templot cannot currently do some of the diamonds due to the angle. I am certain I will need to adjust some of the curves, but its current shape is based on the original scan. Does anyone know how to represent a single point derail? There are several required in this layout. Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Tony Attachment: attach_656_942_State_Line_Crossing .box 190 posted: 29 Sep 2009 12:07 from: Alan McMillan Hi Tony I have created the derail I think you're after- It's near the bottom of the plan I have reattached here. In the UK we call these catch ...
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... This topic is about three-throw turnouts. 99% of 3-way turnouts are not three-throw turnouts. They are tandem turnouts. Three-throw turnouts are tricky to build and have very limited prototype applications. If you have arrived at this topic looking for information about 3-way turnouts, please refer instead to tandem turnouts. Click here to search for the relevant topics: tandem turnouts____ Hi Richard Hope this is what you were looking for. Please let me know if it needs any adjustment. Regards Alan McMillan Attachment: attach_598_911_LMS_Tandem_for_R_La mbert.box 591 posted: 26 Jul 2009 18:54 from: Richard Lambert Hi Alan Many thanks indeed. That looks to be exactly what I want. I shall have to print it out and try it in place to confirm. I will report back. Regards Richard posted: 26 Jul 2009 20:58 from: Richard Lambert Hi Alan I've now tried it in place, and It's a huge turnout! It looks far too, well, spread out in the yard. I ...
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... turnout sizes. Your info on the switch point length is something I did not consider or know I could change. Now I do know of it I can see it suiting my purpose very well and will watch your jing video to see how it is done (thanks for that BTW). And another BTW, I had no idea I already had a turnout stored with the needed configuration, I'll go look. When I placed turnouts I simply did the "insert in plain track" method and went with what appeared, adjusting the size as needed. I know alot of your users will cringe at that statement but I plainly require alot more experience with Templot, this plan is actually the most time I have spent with the product in all the years I have owned it. Thanks again, off to view the video... Cheers Bruce posted: 12 Jul 2009 02:06 from: BruceNordstrand Martin, just watched the video- amazing simple when you know how Brilliant stuff. Will go try that now.... Cheers Bruce ...
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... edited on 10 Jul 2009 16:53 by Phil O posted: 10 Jul 2009 17:17 from: m davies Phil, Thanks, that all sort of make sense except the areas circled in green, if these are steel how do they compress, those near the start of the planning area certainly appear to be compressed, on the left of the turnout there is a good 3" gap, on the right no gap, as the blades move the gap moves to the other side, therefore the smaller blocks must adjust some how to the changing gap, I'm probably not making myself too clear here. I will dig through the tech doc, it must be in there somewhere as to how these minimise switch rail twisting yet remain elastic under compression. I noticed several of the slide chairs also had small rollers at their toe ends, clearly to aid lateral movement. Kindest Michael posted: 10 Jul 2009 17:46 from: Martin Wynne m davies wrote: if these are steel how do they compress, those near the start of the ...
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... angles you must do this conversion after every change you make to the crossing angle. In the video you will see the 1:8 CLM angle displayed as 1:7.97 RAM.) Sleeper length: 8ft-6in. Timbers: square-on Timber ends: in-line Wing-rail front spanning: 4 timbers (This change is non-prototypical and is made purely to match the incorrect position of the wing rail joints in some of the P4 Track Co kits and templates.) Maximum fill timber spacing: adjust as required to give required number of timbers. (The number of timbers between the heel of the switch and the V-crossing varies with different prototypes. Generally the maximum spacing should not exceed 30", however to get the same number of timbers as the P4 B-8 kit it is necessary to allow a slightly greater spacing.) regards, Martin. posted: 13 Dec 2009 19:19 from: ClikC Sorry to bump an old thread, I assume most of the above is also to be done ...
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... changed to curviform V-crossings, then snake them forward a fraction to align with the diamond. As it stands with contraflexure through the generic crossings, you have a very slight reverse curve in the vee splice rails. regards, Martin. posted: 23 Jul 2009 10:43 from: Andy G Hopefully a final update for a good while, but here is the track plan as it will be implemented. Front side is fixed, we've made the decision that this is what we are building, fiddle yard may be adjusted yet. Regards Andy Attachment: attach_597_877_slattocks_junction _09_07_22_2251_11.box 388 Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Share and show> Slattocks Junctions about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to ...
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... ://www.win2pdf.com ), you can display it on screen and do a screen capture to Windows Paint or any drawing package, and add the rest of the layout details. As you mentioned, I'm working on a future Templot upgrade which will make this sort of thing much easier, and allow simple layout detailing to be added directly in Templot like this: sketchbook_draft.png regards, Martin. posted: 24 Jun 2009 17:55 from: Martin Wynne Here's a bit more Jing video showing the page origin and print size being adjusted by mouse action: Martin. posted: 25 Jun 2009 12:29 from: Andy G Thanks Martin, This is a big improvement over my previous efforts. The only issue I've got now is that Templot does not recognise my pdf driver (pdf995- it's free!) as being capable of producing colour. Not a major issue. Also I ended up using a 1mm line thickness for the Slattocks Junction plan and by boosting the dpi of the output to its maximum I removed most of the jaggies. Andy posted ...
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... is no alternative unfortunately -- if you want to change the curving radius through a group of templates you must do it individually on each one, and rework the alignments between them. But there are other things you can do with a group of templates. For example you can rotate the whole group around the radial centre of one of them -- which is equivalent to snaking the group along a fixed radius curve. Or shift them all into alignment with other templates. Or link the group to the control template while you adjust it. There is no means to lock a group together, they remain as individual templates. But you can save them as a group in their own file, and recreate them as a group when adding them back to your track plans. There is a bit of (silent) Jing video in this topic: topic 707- message 3980 showing a group of templates (a tandem turnout) being added from a file and aligned into a track plan. regards, Martin. posted: 19 Jun 2009 14:13 ...
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... I know may have been LSWR. posted: 24 Nov 2010 10:20 from: JFS Sorry if I appeared to be arguing against you- I was only pointing out that the practice of how the ends were worked varied- even in the single case of working from rodding. I am still trying to find some pics of how they were physically connected to the rod run. My memory of layouts I have been around in the past is that there were two separate stretchers each with a separate drive rod incorporating a turnbuckle adjustment but which were then connected to a common bellcrank and thence to the rodding run. It seems to me that a single stretcher connected to four blades would be subject to an unreasonable degree of stress- but I was wrong once before:-) In the 1980's I worked at Wolverton Works and at that time the Haversham Bank sidings, although heavily overgrown, were still entirely intact- including double slips apently- all LNWR trackwork, but the area was cleared years ago. Needless to say, I took no photos. ...
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... put the notch under it. (You may need to turn off timber infill in the generator to see the intersection.) 3. insert a half-diamond in the template. 4. change the crossing angle to a close guess, say 1:2.5 in this case. 5. crop all exit track (do> exit track> crop all). 6. peg it onto the notch. 7. action> F5 V-crossing angle options> any angle menu option. 8. F5 mouse action to adjust the crossing angle to match the underlying track (press the@ key to get extra-fine mouse response). 9. tools> make diamond-crossing. 10. delete the underlying plain tracks: 2_280609_360000000.png In this case the crossing angle turns out to be 1:2.27 (with straight roads). *important -- in all current versions of Templot the radius in both roads must be the same. And in this case you can hardly have any curving in them at all, because the bottom limit on ...
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... to fit together properly, I realize that it would be very helpful to have a "construction line" bisecting the the frog Hi Joe, You can create such a bisector line by means of a partial template overlaid. Create a turnout with half the crossing (frog) angle in degrees and use its track centre-line as the bisector. That means doubling the unit angle for an approximate result (i.e. for a 1:6 (# 6) frog you need to create a #12 frog), then adjust with F5 to get an exact result through the F.P. marker. (Or do your own trig thing -- half of RAM 1:6 is RAM 1:12.083) Put the peg on the D.P. (CTRL-3) before you begin, and set track centre-lines only to remove the rails and timbering. Set any angle for F5. I have made a scruffy bit of Jing video showing that (wait for it to load, mouse-over it for the controls, pause it to ...
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... Richard, For yards and sidings owned by BR and relaid in FB since about the mid-1950s I think you should assume machined flares, unless you have evidence to the contrary. BRT3 (1964) discusses this on page 108 and suggests even the first FB-109 designs used machined flares. Apart from the difficulty of bending FB rail, the main reason for doing this was to avoid the need for special handed baseplates at each end of a check rail, and that then also allows the angle of flaring to be adjusted according to the line speed. For privately owned sidings and yards, where industrial-pattern trackwork is usually supplied by contractors, bent FB flares are probably more likely. Usually these are in lighter rail section which is easier to bend. This picture from Mick Nicholson of Brayton Junction, showing bent flares: 1571_031811_110000000.jpg shows I believe an earlier LNER FB design (Mick?). The big four companies were conducting many experiments with FB track before nationalisation, and there were several designs. The FB-109 design was standardised ...
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... to the Template and the rails are only located by means of blutac blobs. Nonetheless, by proceeding in a logical sequence, one rail at a time, you never need more than two hands which is handy for me. The advantages of building a pre-fabricated assembly this way are:- 1. you can "tack" solder it together, then lift it off the jig and squint along it to check that the rails are perfectly aligned- in the event of any issue, it is simple to unsolder and adjust without singeing timbers or un-soldering previous work. 2. Having taken the assembly out of the jig, you can turn it upside down and re-solder the joints to the N/S strips- thus dealing with any dry joints which are difficult to avoid when trying to solder several rails in close proximity 3. with the assembly upside down, you can place it on a flat surface and check that the rail surfaces are ABSOLUTELY level 4. because we are cutting/ bending the rails directly onto the paper ...
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... ... Entered my custom data in a free slot (this allows the closer sleeper spacing at the rail joints) Created a single length of plain straight track using this custom sleeper spacing Used Shove Timbers to set the outer timbers to 12" Save to background main| store as library template I then created my layout plan and using the storage box added my library above To use the customized plain track, open the storeage box, navigate to the library template (it's name is in green) and copy to control template Adjust as necessary and repeat for each template of plain track, (or just apply the custom plain track settings from real| plain track options...| rail lengths and sleeper spacings... since Templot remembers the last custom settings used in the last custom settings slot I hope the above is clear, it is actually much easier to do than it is to write about. Just for information, all my track in my plan was built from Library templates (including turnouts) all created from original LSWR data. ...
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... picked up from an interview with Norman Solomon in MRJ. Hope this helps. Last edited on 6 Mar 2011 11:25 by Paul Boyd posted: 6 Mar 2011 12:09 from: Nick R Thanks, Paul, some nice trackwork there and, yes, the photos of the build are very helpful. I should perhaps have said that my second slip rail is currently only fixed with plastic chairs at the ends where it can be gauged from the vees. The centre part is still floating so that it can be adjusted to match the rest. Like your example, I started with a slip rail to ensure alignment with an adjacent turnout then added both vees. Nick Last edited on 6 Mar 2011 12:10 by Nick R posted: 10 Jan 2012 12:53 from: Richard_Jones Paul Boyd wrote: If you have a look at my website at http://www.paul-boyd.me.uk then go to the "Rural Railfreight" page, you'll see a photo sequence of a slip in build. Hi Paul, great photos- I ...
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