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... planning on hand-building your pointwork then surely you don't need to follow Peco's geometry. Sorry to answer your question with more questions, but as so often happens, to provide any useful guidance requires more information. Regards, Stuart posted: 14 Jul 2017 18:14 from: stuart1600 A follow-on from my earlier post.... It occurred to me that if replicating the Peco point is crucial for you, the most important feature is probably the V-crossing angle, so that your replacement turnout will align correctly with other tracks. If you go to template>V -crossing settings and select "other", then enter k10 this tells Templot to create a V-crossing with an angle of 10 degrees. Probably also appropriate to use an A switch; so what you should have now will be an A-5.67 turnout, and the info box tells me this has a turnout radius of 19.4". If, for whatever reason, 20" has some particular importance then you can adjust the radius by altering the ...
522. Single Outside Slip
... problems but do not now where to start on this outside slip. \doed anybody have a box file I could use or just some starting points to get me started. I am working in 00-BF. Any help would be most helpful. Alan posted: 19 Jan 2010 01:07 from: Martin Wynne alangdance wrote: Can anybody help me get started with building a single outside slip. I have no idea where to start. Hi Alan, An outside single slip is essentially two overlapping turnouts. The basic alignments can be derived quite quickly. Here's a bit of Jing video showing that (give it a moment to download): Getting an exact crossing angle requires some experimenting with the crossing angles and radius in the starting turnout. (The V-crossings in the slip road must clear the other crossings with enough space for all the wing and check rails.) I will try to get a fully worked example done on video. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Jan 2010 23:25 from: alangdance Hi Martin Thank ...
... onto the track centre lines on the printout. Hope this is helpful. Jamie Last edited on 16 Apr 2010 23:19 by Jamie92208 posted: 17 Apr 2010 03:11 from: Martin Wynne Thanks for jogging my memory Jamie. I have an unfinished video for Derek. I made the video weeks ago but haven't found time to write up the notes. Sorry about that. Here is the video without the notes. Timbers are shoved to match Derek's dimensions for the bogie centres and overall vehicle length. It is then aligned onto the curved track and snaked past another one to check the clearance. In 4mm scale, I set the vehicle "width" (timber length) to 42mm, i.e. a clearance envelope of 3mm all round the typical vehicle width of 9ft (36mm). So when these "vehicle timbers" are just touching, there is actually still a static 6mm clearance between them. This should be more than adequate to allow for body roll, gauge-slop, off-centre wheels on axles, axle end- ...
... > trackbed edges>? trackbed- help regards, Martin. posted: 11 Jun 2017 12:41 from: Michael Henfrey Thanks posted: 12 Jun 2017 17:24 from: Michael Henfrey all the timbers have been nudged I think. I hope I have done them right as I didn't touch any supporting the vee's or checkrails or where the tiebar needs to go. I have taken to cutting some sleepers shorter rather than adding in lots of long ones. Track edges have also been done Next step is to try and align the templates and glue them down onto smaller cork sections so I can make them up a section at a time in a more comfy location Attachment: attach_2450_3030_theeloftplan5.box 293 posted: 23 Jul 2017 11:24 from: Michael Henfrey Hi all, Due to the space in my loft my goods yard was still getting shorter so I had a little idea.. I have removed it from the back of the station of which I think a village scene would look really nice there and tried moving it to the front which gives me ...
... 4 basic settings are: first (1st) initial radius second (2nd) final radius length of the 1st radius section length of the transition zone section There are mouse actions to adjust each of these. trans_marks.gif What are you having trouble doing? regards, Martin. posted: 25 Apr 2017 19:22 from: Panos Tsirigotis thank you very much. I wouldn 't say trouble. Its that when I am trying to make a transition curve, templot asks me where on the template do I want the transition to be aligned. (1st or 2nd radius and sometimes depending on the curvature and/ or the radius the transition is invalid. Regards Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> 1st and 2nd radius on curvature about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page ...
... fixing peg for each background template. The fixing peg always shows as red on the control template, but the peg colour on background templates varies with the pad colour scheme and can be set to whatever you want. a square with a cross through it. Again, what are they and what are they trying to tell me? That is the pegging notch. There is only one notch. Again, the colour varies with the pad colour scheme, but it is always square: pad_symbols.png While you use only F7 snapping to align templates, or the "extend and split" methods to create a track plan, the peg and notch can be largely ignored. They come into their own when you start building more complex formations using partial templates. For a full explanation of what they mean and how they are used, see the relevant page in the Templot Companion: http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_geometry.htm The notch also serves as a general-purpose marker location. For example when rotating a group of templates, they rotate around the current ...
... timbering now, if a bit tedious. It will be in the DXF export. And they will be straight. It's best to do this on the first template, so that it propagates through to the rest of them as you create the track plan. First set the timber width to the requirements for baulk timbers. Then shove each timber into position. Twist it by 90 degrees (click the data... button), crab it across under the rail, and then do the final twist and length adjustments to align under the rail. The shoved timbers will mostly retain their position when curving the template, changing the turnout size, etc., needing only fine tuning for each fresh template. Select the tools> make tools: options> retain shoved timbers setting, so that the shoved timbers are retained in making crossovers, double track, etc. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Baffled beginners> Export .dxf ...
... I always find it fascinating when people with similar skills get interacting with each other. trustytrev. posted: 13 Jan 2019 00:09 from: Andrew Barrowman Jim Guthrie wrote: I was using self guarding frogs- so no checkrails. Jim. I was waiting for a train at Hoboken the first time I saw them. It took a while before I understood how they worked This is my "vise helper" for FB rail. It drops into my bench vise which squeezes the plates together to grip the rail. The alignment pins are 1/8th inch piano wire. The notches have different depths to allow for the FB foot. This ugly brute lets me really lean on the file. It doesn't take a lot of strokes. You can just about see a slot cut with a piercing saw. I use it to cut nice square ends on the rails. 2983_121857_410000000.jpg posted: 7 Jan 2020 19:04 from: Martin Carew Hi Jim, Wondering what make/brand/model your CNC is for rails? I've been hand filing with ...
... your Templot track design. There are 2 ways to do that. 1. Use an image file from 3PI as a background picture shape. This is easy to do, but it will become blocky and pixellated as you zoom in over it. First export a bitmap image of the required area from 3PI: 2_291302_320000000.png For the above image I set a width of 3000 pixels, it is also necessary to tick the lock aspect ratio box. Then import the image into Templot as a background picture shape. Here I have quickly aligned a 9ft-5 turnout over part of the above image: 2_291322_310000000.png But as you can see, zooming-in causes it to become blocky. This can make it tricky to create an exact match: 2_291324_050000000.png 2. Alternatively you can export a DXF file from 3PI and import this into Templot. This allows you to zoom in over it without losing precision, and link Templot track to individual DXF entities. So a question: are you running a 64-bit version of 3rd PlanIt, or a 32-bit ...
... angles 1:7.5, 1:8.5, 1:10. The 1:8.5 K-crossing angle means the K-crossings will need to be movable (switch-diamond), requiring point-motors awkwardly close to the baseboard joint. By increasing the crossing entry straight (see the marker, boxed yellow -- it would normally be near the V-crossing) I was able to shorten the half-diamond a bit. I then snaked (CTRL+ F6) the other half-diamond back into alignment with it. Note that I put the peg on CTRL+ 4 while adjusting the entry straight. The fix will be in the next update. There was a 10-month gap between the last two updates, for no particular excuse that I can think of. I will try to get the next update a bit sooner. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Oct 2015 02:12 from: Martin Wynne Further to the above, two option boxes have been missing from the V-crossing dialog for 15 years ...
... can see it is limited in what you can do with it. I have left it in Templot because it can be very useful where you have a turnout in a transition curve (make return curve isn't available for transitions). Try this: 1. change to a regular type V-crossing. (You can now in 212a click the green indicator at the top left of the trackpad until it changes to R.) 2. click tools> make branch track menu item. 3. curve it to your desired alignment (F6 mouse action). 4. insert turnout in it: template> insert turnout in plain track menu item. In your case followed by 5. template> swap facing- trailing menu item. 6. CTRL+ F9 mouse action to roam it into position.( 3, 5, and 6 above are also available on the beginner buttons along the top right of the trackpad) regards, Martin. posted: 11 Oct 2015 13:25 from: Jubilee42 Thanks! That was quick! Your reply was ...
... disappoint you, but this isn't possible. The trackwork on the inside of the bend would get crunched up to fit, and would no longer be prototypical and possibly not even buildable. Likewise on the outside of the bend the trackwork would all get stretched out, with similar results. Templot would need to be massively more complex and intelligent to sort it all out by itself. More about this subject in this topic: topic 348 Unless this is a very complex track plan, it shouldn't take you too long to re-align everything onto new curved centre-lines. There is a video showing how to do that in this topic: topic 349 regards, Martin. posted: 22 Jan 2011 10:10 from: Steve Evans Martin, Thank you for your reply- I will have a look at the video. Steve posted: 18 Jul 2011 13:38 from: Richard_Jones Hi Steve, I know exactly where you are coming from- if you look at my proposals for Singleton I need something like 21' if I didn't curve it ...
533. My First Points
... no effect. That could be something to do with Linux though, I would have expected others to have reported problems if it were a general thing. Baring accidents, and I don't recall any, I do indeed use 'Mint' every time, for the reasons you indicate- I gave myself some headaches not doing so on the original Soddingham that finished up with starting over again! Again I have no idea if it is relevant but one thing I do do, and did with these points, is bend the approach having aligned the exits to get a more aesthetic result. I don't know if you recall but that caused a problem (only bending so far before 'sticking') on the original Soddingham. Since it would appear that, for whatever reason, I am the only one having this problem, and as it is not a show stopper for anyone actually paying attention to what they are doing I don't think any additional measures are required- I'm sure you have plenty of more worthwhile activities to deal with. Cheers Richard Last edited on 1 ...
... topic: 2743 V-crossings on Diamonds posted: 14 Sep 2015 11:13 from: Godfrey Earnshaw I have just created a diamond crossing by two different methods: 1. By placing two lengths of straight track at 1:7 and using P peg/align tools> D Make crossing at intersection 2. By Ctrl+ I; insert a turnout in plain track, Size F5; 1:7, template convert turnout to half-diamond, tools- make diamond crossing Method 1. brings up a warning box about an irregular diamond and the need to use a curviform V-crossing. Method 2. doesn't I am bewildered by this as nominally everything is formed from straight track, particularly the Method 1. What am I missing as I believe the regular V-crossing is the correct one. Godders (Bewildered of Crawley) posted: 14 Sep 2015 11:32 from: Martin Wynne Hi Bewildered of Crawley, Please could you post the box file? There is a bug in 211b relating to the messages displayed on this ...
... There shouldn't be any problems in later versions of Windows, but make sure you have upgraded to at least version 078e of Templot. Using Windows XP, and Templot version 078e or later, and a printer capable of printing bitmaps, and remembering to click print pictures (stretch), this is the sort of thing you should be seeing. Remember also to tick the grid in front tickbox if not already ticked, otherwise the red trim margins on the printed pages will be obscured by the image: back_scan1.png 1. Pointwork being aligned over a scanned prototype map which has been loaded into a picture shape. back_scan2.png 2. Page outlines (here as orange/black dotted lines) being adjusted for best fit. For more details about how to do this, see this video. back_scan3.png 3. After clicking print> print entire pad menu item. You must click the print pictures (stretch) option shown to get the background scan to print. Also make sure grid in front is ticked. I am about to print page c/10. background_print.jpg ...
536. Circle segmentation
... the use of Templot has proved to be invaluable. The 964mm (38") radius circle has been drawn up with the sector lines in place. The templates were stuck down onto the 12mm ply and the angles accurately cut to form the octagon. The side rails are 100mm deep so they provide protection for the Tortoise point motors and are also made from 12mm ply. This forms a true surface and one that will not warp over time. I've used 45 x 45 blocks in each end which will be used to house alignment dowels and securing bolts. To save bending, I will lay cork underlay over the track base and then use 5mm self adhesive copper strip to form a top surface mini bus around the loop. I will take wires from each piece of rail to the copper strip and then just two connections to the main bus of 4mm copper. It was a doddle to cut each strip straight on the bench saw and then cut all the 22.5 degree angles. Saves all the messing about with a jigsaw and gives a much better finish ...
... be very useful. edit: I have now taken this a bit further, and added an option to replace the K-crossing timbering with the timber spacings and rail joint positions from any switch you choose (or those for a custom switch). This works best if you match the K-crossing angle with the switch deflection angle. For example in this case I selected a GWR 10ft curved switch, and set the K-crossing angle to 1:37 to match: 2_292120_090000000.png This doesn't change any of the rail alignments, so it is still not a proper prototypical switch. But it looks better, with the switch tips correctly overlapping the timber centre, etc. (except for the NER of course). And if you choose a curved type switch from the list, it will be quite close. Comparing the above with the previous one, you can see the improved timbering at the switch tips, and the rail joint positions. This is now the alert message you see when accessing the switch settings dialog when there is a half ...
... convert exactly, so these shouldn't need changing and make a useful guide in re-adjusting the pointwork templates to fit. If you have changed the scale, and you have used a background map or scan as a guide, note that this will need scaling up or down to match the new model scale. First reset the notch to the grid origin, or on the background shapes dialog change the picture options tab> scaling lock options to grid. Otherwise you may need to shift the position of converted background to re-align with the converted tracks. Then on the background shapes dialog, select the picture shape in the list, click the modify shape tab> scale by... button. Enter the required percentage change as: new scale/ old scale x 100. Click the? info button and read the notes. Martin. posted: 4 Apr 2016 14:40 from: Richard Spratt I'm having difficulties with changing the gauge of templates. I find that they move and rotate. I had expected the centre-lines to remain ...
... join turnout 63 to curved track 64. So I make a branch track (template 68) from the turnout, and insert a temporary template (69) from template 64. Templates 68 and 69 are shown as centre line only, they approach each other closely, but do not quite touch. If the templates are extended, they do not intersect. Thus they appear to meet the requirements for a transition to be made between them. However, if I delete 69 to control and click on 68, "peg/align tools, make transition", I'm told it's not possible to make a transition between these two curves. What am I doing wrong? Oh, as a rider, is it possible to construct B6 slips in 00-SF? Or is B7 the practical limit? Robert Preston Attachment: attach_979_1372_layout1_feb_18_sli ps2.box 162 posted: 18 Feb 2011 22:51 from: Martin Wynne Robert Preston wrote: I've tried very hard with transitions, sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. Please have a look at the attached file, bottom ...
540. Constrained Tandem
... the loose-heel joint. The two are held together by the joint fishbolts. The location of the loose-heel is shortened back to the virtual heel position (where the heel offset is 4.1/2" -- rail width+ flangeway). To add extra track joints to a template, the quick way is to draw them on manually, as background shapes (main> draw with mouse menu item). To do it properly create a short bit of rail containing a joint mark as a partial template, align it over the rail and snake it into position. (Don't use no timbering, as this also removes the rail joints. Instead, remove the timbering using omit all on the shove timbers functions.) regards, Martin. posted: 19 Feb 2011 11:53 from: JFS Hi Martin (I thought you were offline, but many thanks anyway!!!) Many thanks for this- I should have pointed out that I already had this example as I am an S4 member and it has been linked here ...
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