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... if first question is forcing you to rush into clip D! Cheers, Paul edit: video clips referred to are at: http://templot.com/companion/live_screen_archive.php posted: 7 Nov 2020 22:47 from: Martin Wynne Hi Paul, Welcome to Templot Club. Your second question first -- there isn't a specific function for outside sips, but provided the diamond-crossing is regular (all crossing angles equal), there are 2 special peg positions for the purpose which make it fairly straightforward to establish the alignments for an outside slip road. There is a video about using them to create an outside slip at: http://flashbackconnect.com/Movie.aspx?id=3o4-PiKKPVaAXZsePJOwSA2 It then needs some partial templates and timber shoving to finish the design. However what you describe "straight main line facing and trailing turnouts with one diamond obtuse crossing in main line four foot" sounds more like an offset half-scissors than an outside slip. The difference from a slip is that the switch deflections would be in the diamond roads ...
... sleepers up to 5 metres of template length. If you extend a copied template beyond that, you will need to widen the remaining joint sleepers (using the shove timbers functions). p.s.2. If you insert a turnout in this plain track, you will retain the lengths and spacings in any approach or exit track, but lose the widened joint sleepers. The solution to that is either to widen them individually, or in 091b and later you can to split off the approach and exit tracks as separate templates, and then align a copy of the library template over them -- peg/ align tools> align the control template over background template> facing-facing menu item, choose the delete option for the existing background template, then store& background for the new one. (In a future Pug I will include such widening as an option in the custom plain track settings, removing the need to shove them wider and the above procedures.) regards, Martin. posted: 23 Mar 2009 10:55 from: Martin Wynne I wrote ...
... topic: 390 Adding track to double slip. posted: 28 Mar 2008 02:42 from: George Ray I must be doing something wrong, so help please guys. I have constructed a scissors crossover with a double slip on one exit road. I then put a peg on the exit of the slip, put the notch under the peg and then try to add some plain track onto that notch. As soon as I move the track into position the notch moves from under the peg and the new track doesn't align with where I want it to go. Any help would be much appreciated. I should add that this is part of my storage yard and I managed somehow to get the other end to work out after suffering the same sort of problem, I thought I had sussed it but obviously I haven't. Last edited on 28 Mar 2008 02:43 by George Ray posted: posted: 28 Mar 2008 02:57 from: Martin Wynne George Ray wrote: I must be doing something wrong, so help please guys. ...
64. Getting Started
... moving on to something more complicated), but I think I'm falling at the first hurdle. When I start up, it shows me a curved turnout, which seems to be anchored to the bottom left hand corner of the screen. How do I move it to somewhere more useful (I've worked out how to change the shape of it). I did at one point (no pun intended) manage to delete it, but when I tried to place a piece of track, I only seemed to be able to align it with the line of the "branch" part of the now vanished turnout. Where am I going wrong? Thanks Adrian posted: 19 Feb 2012 13:23 from: Martin Wynne Adrian (ffoil) wrote: Where am I going wrong? Hi Adrian, Welcome to Templot Club. To move the start-up template, you do this: Press the F7 key* on the keyboard or click the SHIFT F7 tool button at the top of the screen. Click and release the mouse anywhere on the workpad ...
... I have also changed the box file title so it saves by default. To do this open the storage box and select the Edit drop down menu "box title (project title)" Good luck with your project. Tony. posted: 12 Sep 2017 10:18 from: John Palmer I have also had a go at the tandem and managed to ease the curvature so that I don't think any part of this formation has a curvature less than 59" in radius. Won't guarantee that I have successfully preserved all the alignments of adjacent track (in any case all the exits from the tandem have been transitioned), but there has been no substantial change to such alignments. There's also a bit of timber shoving still required. I have also inserted two traps into turnout TL 762. The stretchers on these would, no doubt, be operated by the same rodding connection as that driving TL 535. Attachment: attach_2489_3063_st_agnes_2017_09 _12_0939_24.box 237 posted: 12 Sep 2017 10:37 from: Andrew Howlett Martin, I was originally going to use Peco track ...
... is solid rail (called the point rail), and the vee rail in the turnout road is spliced into the side of it (called the splice rail). Jim provided the link to a topic where I have made some diagrams showing that. Here it is again: topic 359- message 2078 regards, Martin. posted: 1 Jun 2009 13:44 from: David R Please add this to my "wish list" as, in many designs, the crossing chairs are perpendicular to this bisecting line and not aligned with the timbers -- the prototype then didn't need left and right-hand versions of the crossing chairs. And if the chair outlines were also included then we'd know if we needed 12" or 14" timbers to accommodate all the fixings. Dave R posted: 1 Jun 2009 14:32 from: Martin Wynne David R wrote: Please add this to my "wish list" as, in many designs, the crossing chairs are perpendicular to this bisecting line and not aligned with the timbers -- the prototype ...
67. print alignment
... topic: 1070 print alignment posted: 10 Mar 2010 18:05 from: tony polman i`m probably missing something simple but bear with me. is it possible to align each template so as it would be printed on a single sheet of A4? tried a couple of test prints last night and found some sections are cut lengthways at the edge of the paper. must be a way around this? posted: 10 Mar 2010 18:20 from: Paul Boyd Hi Tony You can set the page origin to do this, assuming the template is small enough to print on A4. From the 'print' menu, select 'page orientation/origin' then 'set page origin'. The rest is self-explanatory, and you can see the results of fiddling with the page origin on the screen before printing. This is something I do quite a lot! Cheers posted: 10 Mar 2010 19:43 from: Martin Wynne Paul Boyd wrote: You can set the page origin to do this, assuming the template is small enough to ...
... : video link updated There are 4 mouse actions which at first sight have a similar effect, but in fact there are significant differences between them. In many situations you can use whichever is the most convenient, but there are other situations where only the right one will do. CTRL+ F6 snake through peg SHIFT+ F9 slide through peg CTRL+ F9 roam along length CTRL+ F5 orbit around radial centre Snake is the most frequently used, and is convenient when you want to move a template along the main-road alignment. If the main-road alignment is a transition curve, the transition alignment is locked to the grid, and the template snakes along it. If the peg is not initially on the main-road centre-line, it is moved there first. Slide is the less frequently used, and employs more complex maths than snake. If the main-road alignment is a transition curve, the transition alignment is locked to the template rather than the grid, and slides through the peg with the template. Slide doesn't ...
... posted: 23 Jun 2009 15:19 from: Andy G Hi Martin, Thanks for the suggestion. I've had a good look at it and tried a few things. In trying to avoid a very short section of plain track between the crossing and the junction I'm not able to get a smooth line from the crossing to the tandem. This is actually the way I had originally done it with a regular slip but Dick commented that there was a dog leg in it and that the straight path would actually give a better alignment which it did seem to. If I introduce the short length (about four sleepers worth!) then I can get an alignment as you suggested, however pushing the other turnouts out moves the loop turnout which I've already built (oops jumped the gun!). Cheers Andy posted: 25 Jun 2009 00:43 from: Martin Wynne Andy G wrote: This is actually the way I had originally done it with a regular slip but Dick commented that there was a dog leg in it and that the straight path ...
... topic: 94 Scissors crossover posted: 22 Jun 2007 17:15 from: Phil O Hi all I am trying to construct a scissors crossover, I have the four turnouts aligned where I want them but I am struggling with the centre diamond as templot will not allow a curviform nose in a diamond to align with the turnout rails of the original templates. Can anyone please shed some light for me. Many Thanks Phil posted: 22 Jun 2007 17:44 from: Martin Wynne Phil O wrote: I am trying to construct a scissors crossover, I have the four turnouts aligned where I want them but I am struggling with the centre diamond as templot will not allow a curviform nose in a diamond to align with the turnout rails of the original templates. Hi Phil, There are two basic designs of scissors. Type 1 where the diamond V-crossings are in the turnout curves, as you mention, and type 2 where the turnouts have lengthened crossing entry "straights" (or the track spacing is widened) to bring the diamond ...
... . However, after referring to NER-A books I found that my knuckle bends were still too sharp, so I tried to make them more gentle. A 1:8 knuckle bend comes out with a bend very similar to the circumference of a Scalefour mug. So I bent the rail around that, carefully checking until the straight parts lined up with the stock rail and the wing rail of a Templot diagram (I put 0 flare on the wing rail and extended them considerably so that I would have something more to align them on). As a point of note, the curve should be even more gentle than the mug. I put a very slight taper on the nose of the vee and blunted it to .25mm and tack soldered. Now I have found that the wheel is dropping into the knuckle- not a lot and it is still supported on the outer edge, but only just. The curve is also starting a little way before the X chair rather than AT the X chair as per the diagram. I was wondering if ...
... can see that the dummy vehicle is still on the control template, mostly. Perhaps I need new glasses) Cheers Last edited on 27 Mar 2012 20:24 by Paul Boyd posted: 27 Mar 2012 20:27 from: Martin Wynne Paul Boyd wrote: I've been able to reproduce this- I think you will see what may be happening. Hi Paul, Thanks for trying but you haven't reproduced it. I did explain in the notes:* note that the dummy vehicle can be rolled only along the control template alignment. It can't roll across template boundaries onto a different alignment on a background template -- over a crossover road for example, or through complex formations created from multiple partial templates. See: message 11596 edit: our posts crossed. regards, Martin. posted: 27 Mar 2012 20:38 from: Paul Boyd Hi Martin I think I must have missed something- wouldn't be the first time! note that the dummy vehicle can be rolled only along the control template alignment...but in Brians image, which I've now ...
... templates after make diamond-crossing at intersection. The new function will also be useful in other circumstances where the position of a template boundary needs to be moved, for example to enable a turnout to be inserted. Or where a gap or overlap needs to be eliminated, for example before using the roll rails to match function. At present such tasks have to be done manually. It is working quite well (within sensible limits). But I'm uncertain how much misalignment to allow before reporting an error in the original template alignments. In the process I have produced this alert dialog: 2_260617_500000000.png I'm aware that my choice of words doesn't always make sense to others, so I would be pleased to know if anyone cannot follow the above? This is a close-up of the condition described above: 2_260549_570000000.png For myself I prefer to have exact alignments in Templot. But from looking at some posted box files it is obvious that others would deem the above acceptable, and aim to correct it at the track construction stage. Bearing in mind that in ...
... likk to the common crossing, that's my second problem. Been at Bodmin& Wenford Railway today, found some interesting chair combinations. IKB must be turning in his grave. Thank you both for the info, looks like it worked. I was able to alter the rail lengths to avoid having rails going through the common crossing gaps. My other problem was where the common crossing was put where the two of the crossing rails, crossed each other. The problem was when I altered the Vee the crossing rails went out of alignment. I then had a light bulb moment and used the same process to alter both. By taking the Vee away from the template then putting it in the parking bay. Then recalled the Vee and changed the size followed by retrieving the crossing from the parking bay. All I think is nice and tidy. Could someone please check the result to see that I have not made any glaring mistakes. Thanks again John Attachment: attach_1919_2508_3_way_version_5.b ox 241 posted: 19 Aug 2014 16:08 from: Brian Nicholls Hi John, ...
... can use the Tools> Page Info> Media function to do Save As... on the map image. Note that there is a time limit for doing this after displaying the page -- the image url is created temporarily in the database. Or you could take screen captures, of course. Then use photo-stitch software from your digital camera to create a larger map for use as a Templot background picture shape. Or simply use multiple picture shapes -- use the shift shape mouse action with transparent images to align them. If you use these maps in Templot, please don't upload Templot screenshots here -- OS copyrights bite! regards, Martin. posted: 25 Aug 2007 13:50 from: Bernard C Hi Martin Impressive and fascinating. However, does 'Planning Portal' across the zoomed maps have to remain? Regards Bernard posted: 25 Aug 2007 16:53 from: Martin Wynne Bernard C wrote: However, does 'Planning Portal' across the zoomed maps have to remain? Hi Bernard, This is a "watermark" ...
... topic: 565 Aligning Tracks Between Templates posted: 24 Sep 2008 22:24 from: JimH Hi- this might be an obvious question, but I'm bit stumped I have numerous templates that I want to link together with plain track, how do I achieve this in a way that maintains the correct alignment at both ends of the templates? In other words it's to try and fill in the gaps between the templates. Kind regards, Jim posted: 24 Sep 2008 22:50 from: Martin Wynne JimH wrote I have numerous templates that I want to link together with plain track, how do I achieve this in a way that maintains the correct alignment at both ends of the templates? In other words it's to try and fill in the gaps between the templates. Hi Jim, Just time to post a couple of links -- I have to go out: topic 532- message 3089 http://www.templot.com/martweb/info_files/make_trans.htm The make transition function is used in several of the videos. Martin. posted: 24 ...
... topic: 384 Curved turnout geometry in Templot posted: 24 Mar 2008 21:11 from: Templot User When a turnout is placed on a curved alignment where is the neutral axis? i.e. the line along which there is neither stretching or compression of the turnout detail. Is it the centre line of the reference alignment? posted: 24 Mar 2008 21:30 from: Martin Wynne Templot User wrote: When a turnout is placed on a curved alignment where is the neutral axis? i.e. the line along which there is neither stretching or compression of the turnout detail. Is it the centre line of the reference alignment? If you are not a professional permanent-way engineer you may want to skip this. The traditional steam-era way to lay out a turnout on a curve is to start with a straight turnout and maintain the lead length constant along whichever is the flatter of the two closure rails. This establishes the relative positions of the switch and the V-crossing, and the remaining rails can then be added to match ...
... yes, for a simple turnout, you can fudge a working turnout by building it on an EM template using P4 gauges, or building it on a P4 template using EM gauges. But obviously the timbering won't match and the lead length will be a bit out, so it's not an ideal result. But as you say, this won't work for diamond-crossings and slips, because the distance between the vee tips is calculated from the track gauge. If you use a different gauge to build it, the rails won't align. I'm still a bit puzzled by what you are trying to achieve by building EM on a P4 plastic base? If you want a fixed base, you could stick plastic timbers on a suitable sheet, say thin ply, or even plastic card. regards, Martin. posted: 18 Apr 2017 14:48 from: Hayfield Martin Wynne wrote: Hayfield wrote: Hi John, I'm still a bit puzzled by what you are trying to achieve by building EM on a P4 plastic base? If you want a fixed ...
... no rails and use that just as a timbering template. Use the timbers shown on the partial templates as a guide, and adjust the timber template timbers accordingly. Once you're happy, remove the timbers from the partial templates. You may also need to slide the check rails about a bit so they line up correctly with the timber spacing- again with the prototype as a reference, the chairs have to be in the right position relative to the flair on the check rail. Another factor I'm not entirely sure about is timber alignment. I think that the ends of the timbers on one side would be aligned, with the other side stepping the usual 6", but I'd like to know what is "correct". Not sure if any of that was any help, but no-one else has answered posted: 24 Mar 2010 12:34 from: Phil O Hi Paul Many thanks for some input, that was more or less the lines along which I was thinking. The only possible difference is that I was going to increase the ...
80. RH_Curved tandem
... . Deciding where to slide to just becomes confusion. 2110_311411_540000000.png I tried to follow the tutorial in conjunction with the following from the Yahoo Templot group which I believe would be of help. Here's how to get started with a tandem: 1. Set up you first turnout, say a B8 LH, and store it on the background. 2. Get your second turnout, say an A6 RH, as the current template, and set it to have no timbering. 3. Click on the first one, then PEG/ALIGN TOOLS to align the current template over it, FACING-FACING. 4. Ctrl-F6 to SNAKE the current template over the background template until the following conditions are met: a) there must be at least 11" scale space (gauge-face to gauge face) for the second point blade to open behind the first one. This allows space for the slide chair on the second point blade and a bridge chair or bolted half-chair on the first one. Use the RULER tool (0.78.e) to ...
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