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... topic: 3186 Rail Edges in Generator posted: 16 Jan 2018 20:36 from: Andrew Barrowman An extremely selfish request: Would it be possible to put the inside and outside edges of rails on separate layers in a DXF export from Templot? When I'm populating a template with chairs in TurboCAD I use the inside rail edge as the reference but at times it's useful to be able to see the outside edges of rails as well. TurboCAD allows me to make layers visible or invisible so I can turn them on or off as required. Regards, Andy posted: 16 Jan 2018 20:45 from: Martin Wynne Andrew Barrowman wrote: An extremely selfish request: Would it be possible to put the inside and outside edges of rails on separate layers in a DXF export from Templot? Hi Andy, You can do this if you export them to two different DXF files. The required settings are in the generator> generator settings> rails> menu options. Do a generator> rebuild all background after changing the settings. Then export DXF again ...
... . I may well have to try that. Again. You don't know how many times I've been round the loop. My source is the OS1250 map from 1960. Better than nothing but the line thickness creates an uncertainty. I have a 480-scale LNWR drawing from the time when the trackage was widened from 2 to 4 running lines. My drawings show a carriage-shed with only 3 roads and a different path for the left to right path through this "scissors". At that stage their drawing shows an outside slip associated with the 1 in 4 diamond further up. This LNWR drawing I have must represent a stage in the development. When the shed requirement became 4-road the outside slip became unworkable and this "scissors" became the least bad solution. Regards, Geoff posted: 26 Feb 2011 00:24 from: roythebus Quite impressive; I'd be inclined to gently curve the fairly straight lines along the top of the plan to get rid of the train set look of going from nearly straight to sharp corner as I've ...
63. A new trolley
... film is looking reasonable at present as trying to rub them down on wagon strapping isn't easy. I have a few nice Hornby/Bachmann locos to convert to EM and add sound decoders- 42XX, 56XX, 58XX and panniers- which should cover the loco stud. What about a dome shaped top for the trolley? Every thing would just slide off.... Rob Hello Rob A curved top to my trolley, a simple and obvious solution really. Why did I not think of that, obviously I don't think outside the box enough! So South Wales, a real location or a might have been and what era? I suppose the 56xx were relatively modern locos build after the 1st world war were they? I've not really paid them much attention as they never seemed to venture outside the valleys and certainly not down the Weymouth line. I can't think what the 58xx were at all I'm ashamed to say. The 42xx are lovely engines I think. I've an old Cotswold one that I built years ago and with a Mashima 1830 in ...
... ? cheers, Martin. posted: 5 Nov 2019 02:01 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, Thank you for your thoughts- No I haven't gone to bed yet either As I have probably said before and may well say again :- For me priority #1 is to have a web based Templot(n) that works and is always running at the latest version. It shouldn't need any knowledge of how it compiles or what programming it contains. I would like nice extra features adding as time goes on( outside slips that don't need an IQ of 150 to figure out for example). Buses not withstanding I am 100% happy with you carrying out this until you no longer feel able- but if you feel you want to step down your Templot activities you should( please) work with others to allow this to continue without too much effort from you. Any extra pure programming that adds features( that are not bound by licences etc) should be made available periodically in a downloadable TemplotMEC/OT.exe that we can squirrel away ...
... think you answered your own question as below. Best regards Trevor. Or just leave the existing open source where it is for anyone who wants it and otherwise forget it? posted: 4 Sep 2018 23:12 from: Paul Boyd Hi Martin For me, the main interest was in having the possibility of running Templot without having the internet check. In the event that for whatever reason that gets switched off, all our work is made useless at a stroke. Whatever the software, I feel nervous about relying on something outside of my control to be able to continue using it. Even with my reluctant switch to the subscription model of Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop I can still fall back on an older standalone copy if necessary, and I have an XP box squirelled away as a last resort for when Microsoft do something stupid to stop my ALPS printer working, or parallel printer ports on PCs disappear completely. The idea of being able to tweak things to make my own version does appeal, although it's been a long time since I've done any programming ...
... they advance in sync? Or start from scratch for OT/MEC? cheers, Martin. posted: 29 Oct 2019 23:54 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, Interesting to see the help you are receiving with development I would have thought there needs to be some cohesion between T2 and MEC versions of Templot- assuming that any new features are to be rolled out at some point. Pardon me for being a little confused here but if somebody were to write some code that implemented a new feature for MEC( say outside slips or 90 degree Retford style crossings) would that get added to T2 by you as well?...and are you to be a contributor to MEC and update the repository with your new chunks of code when in appears in T2? Rob posted: 30 Oct 2019 00:28 from: Martin Wynne Rob Manchester wrote: Pardon me for being a little confused here but if somebody were to write some code that implemented a new feature for MEC( say outside slips or 90 degree Retford style crossings) would ...
... topic: 1690 Double outside slip 3ft 6in gauge posted: 17 Nov 2011 21:41 from: John Lewis Taken 13 Nov 2011, Cape Town station throat. 2_171702_590000000.jpg Last edited on 17 Nov 2011 22:04 by Martin Wynne posted: 17 Nov 2011 22:08 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, Many thanks for the picture. However a 4MB attachment in the database is a bit much just for one picture. It's better to use the Image Gallery for pictures. I have straightened it up for you and moved it to the Image Gallery. regards, Martin. posted: 17 Nov 2011 22:27 from: John Lewis Thank you Martin. I hope to get used to the system one day! I was on a steam special that went into platform 23 at Cape Town, reversed out to this point and then went forward to a non-electrified platform on what was once Monument Station. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums ...
... I bought mine from here: http://www.handlaidtrack.com/tools-supplies-track-gauges-c -9_37.php and would thoroughly recommend their service. Also bought my 0.5mm solder from them. You might also like to consider the following: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f =11&t =51055 One thing I cannot stress enough is that you need good quality templates to the standards you intend to build to. If you intend to use Templot be aware that Templot does not plot the outside edge of the flatbottom rail which makes location of the rail difficult. Martin does have a workaround which a search of this forum should find. posted: 14 Mar 2010 11:09 from: kenbec Jim Guthrie wrote: Ken Here's a picture of the same idea but with a Tortoise motor driving the sub-trackbase tiebar. 25_130526_430000000.jpg This is for a Scale7 layout so is a bit chunkier than the N scale version. In this case the Tortoise drives straight on to the tiebar, but there are many other ways of ...
69. New 7mm Project
... start a new topic to show you what I have been working on recently, and for any feedback on what other people think of the plan and for some guidance on a few finishing touches for this design. I have recently been working on a project with a friend of mine, who has recently started out in 7mm. As you will see from the attached photo and file. The project consists of two parts; a permanent fixed running loop with fiddle yard and a integrated layout that has been designed to exhibit. The outside loop, which contains a double slip, two points and a passing loop on one side and a ladder fiddleyard on the other side. This has been designed based on 32mm Peco track work, this part of the layout has already been built and is just about up and running. The fixed part of the layout has been designed like this so we have somewhere to continuously run locos and to allow friends to run there 0 gauge locomotives which may not be suitable for the finer gauge on the main layout. The plan ...
... topic: 2506 Switch close to crossing posted: 16 Aug 2014 17:20 from: Martin Wynne Sometimes when cramped for space in a model we need to have the next switch close to the previous crossing, but it's rare to see it very close on the prototype. This pic at Lincoln appeared recently on RMweb: post-19381-0 -05873300-1407934177.jpg Notice just in front of the tender wheels, that the switch toe for the outside slip appears to be on the C timber of the crossing, only just clear of the wing rail. Always useful to have prototype evidence. For a video showing how this is done in Templot, see: topic 2928 Image from: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/18451-peterborough-north/page-248#entry1549853 Martin. posted: 17 Aug 2014 18:10 from: Hayfield Am I correct in thinking its an outside slip? Also on the diamond in the bottom right, are some check rails missing? Just looks a bit funny but ...
71. Dud(ley) Plot?
... topic: 2466 Dud(ley) Plot? posted: 3 Jun 2014 18:20 from: Ariels Girdle Hi- I'm not quite a beginner, but am trying my first complex track plan. It is based on Dudley, a joint LNWR/GWR station, in BR days. Most of it I think I have bodged moderately well, but I am not confident about the geometry/feasibility of the slip, outside slip and 3-way interlaced turnout in particular. I have attached the file (I hope) which is based on the BR era OS Map. The only real change (accepting that OS Maps will not be 100% reliable) is to curve the track on the approach to the tunnel (RH side of the diagram) the opposite way to how it really was. I have not bothered sorting out the timbering at this stage, as getting the rails right seems to me to be the main priority for the moment. Apart from the map, I have taken into account information from a limited number of photos ...
72. Timber Staining
... doors for an hour or so to dry. posted: 23 Mar 2015 13:22 from: Hayfield Rob I use diluted Coloron and paint un-cut strips, I find neat dye too strong. Do a few at a time smell is not too bad Last edited on 23 Mar 2015 13:23 by Hayfield posted: 23 Mar 2015 23:25 from: Andrew Fendick Rob, I spray paint the whole track before fixing it down, using Precision Sleeper Grime colour round the station area fading to Wheathered Sleeper colour outside the station area. I then hand paint the rail with a rusty colour. There are a couple of pics on the High Offley RM thread. High Offley msg #16 posted: 24 Mar 2015 00:22 from: Rob Manchester Andrew Fendick wrote: Rob, I spray paint the whole track before fixing it down, using Precision Sleeper Grime colour round the station area fading to Wheathered Sleeper colour outside the station area. I then hand paint the rail with a rusty colour. There are a couple of pics on ...
... plaster or clay, but unless I solidify/stabilize it its hard to work to the correct size. Thought about using plastic, plain plasticard would be a too hard of finish, embossed might be too difficult to keep in register. I think either ply or balsa would be easier to work and give a softer finish 982_010410_500000000.jpg As you can see some of the cutting is better than others, but as I said its a test, the flairind on the check rails needs to be less (Machined?) and against the outside of running rails filler can be used. Also I have learnt what can and cannot be done with switch rails Still proves it can work, I will try the next turnout with Ply, perhaps I could even use air dried clay in a partially dried condition posted: 1 May 2020 14:44 from: Phil O You could try putting air dried clay on the card before you fit it in place, once you're happy that the card is correctly fitted and clear of rolling stock flanges. I might nick your idea ...
... had some comments about this as drawn that may mean some changes would be desirable. Yes. As often with Iain's plans, getting everything to fit as drawn can be a problem. Especially in P4! The problem is the single slip. Iain has drawn a 1:4 inside slip. That's next to impossible in P4 (or the prototype), the radius is just too tight. The slip road is needed because without it there is no run-round capability for the loop. I tried changing it to an outside slip (a very attractive formation, and also a favourite of Iain's), but there just isn't room. It would mean widening the spacing between the loop and the main by so much that the DMU platform length all but disappears. So I have tried a couple of other ideas. As always there are trade-offs, pros and cons. The first thing to decide is what needs to remain fixed, what can be moved. I think the DMU platform in the bottom left is probably in the fixed category ...
... than normal turnouts, that's why i was fascinated by your idea.But both sides will be 3 ways, sorry. I even thought about that "circle" to park my stuff. But to store complete train sets the traverser would be not fitting into my plan. The big boy, aa20, eerie (9999)and other big ones needs to much rolling stock to make this function properly. the T3's and my great grandfathers loco (6300 series)could use this?, i am afraid it would be to small. Outside this "storage shed" you can see the "idea" that i would like to build. Those are the 4 "main lines" for the big ones, they run only on the outside of my garden. The box file is JUST A impression of what i am building, some pieces of strait track can be one(1) meter longer or shorter, curves are what i am going to build in radii! For all: i hope (now)you understand my fuss about frog making, but ...
... ones to fit into HO British locomotives. George Mellor, who was heavily involved in the decisions, wrote an article which made things clear. It was believed, quite understandably, that to manufacture succesful toy trains, which needed to run on clip together small-radius track often laid on carpets and similar, using anything like scale wheels were a total no go. Hence thicker wheels with deeper flanges were used. The problem which then arises is the British loading gauge, which on the prototype forces tight clearances between wheels and outside valve gear, and wheels and splashers, to give just two examples. The proposed wheels simply wouldn't work if the scale was right for the track. So they increased the scale. Which is why commercial toy models of British locomotives in ALL scales use underscale track. To return to the discussion, OO isn't primarily a scale. It is a scale/gauge combination, in the same way that EM and P4 are scale/gauge combinations. Cheers Nigel posted: 26 Sep 2015 12:59 from: madscientist Nigel ...
... topic: 97 Floating toolboxes posted: 24 Jun 2007 23:23 from: Paul Boyd Hi Martin I have a feeling this has come up before, but would it be possible to have the various toolboxes and info panes movable outside the Templot window? This would be particularly handy for those of us working on dual-monitor systems where the pad can be kept completely clear of these panes giving an uncluttered view. Talking of dual monitor support.... Paul posted: 24 Jun 2007 23:45 from: Martin Wynne Paul Boyd wrote: I have a feeling this has come up before, but would it be possible to have the various toolboxes and info panes movable outside the Templot window? This would be particularly handy for those of us working on dual-monitor systems where the pad can be kept completely clear of these panes giving an uncluttered view. Hi Paul, Most of the subsidiary windows can already be moved outside the pad -- the storage box, gauge list, control room, jotter, metric calculator, data- ...
... own layout. Perhaps the problem may be the stain you have used to colour the ply- was it by any chance a varnish-based stain? If so, it may leave a coating on the surface of the ply and this would give rise to the problems you have experienced. For checkrail chairs in 7mm scale I use 4 bolt chairs with the inside of the chair trimmed back using a simple jig to leave 30 thou of the chair on the inside of the rail. The same trimmed chairs are used inside and outside of the checkrail. The chairs at the flared end of the checkrail are trimmed at a slight angle to give a good fit. Regards. Bill Campbell. posted: 14 Jul 2013 22:55 from: SimonH Evening All I suppose the main area for concern was the check rails. I'm using C&L base plates (OO) which are about as close as I can get without maunufacturing from scratch. The only way to get them close to the running rail was to cut the base plates down and then ...
... in some pictures. Rob P.S. I have more IOW books but can't quite lay my hands on them just now. posted: 2 Feb 2020 01:33 from: Martin Wynne Jim Guthrie wrote: but a BR plan of the station (attached) that I found shows the slips to be Barry slips. Hi Jim, In your BR plan those don't look to be Barry slips in the usual sense. Or any kind of slip -- just opposed turnouts: 2_012022_290000000.png Perhaps that lower formation could be called a Barry outside-slip? Given that they lead to dead-end sidings there doesn't seem to be any reason to provide full slips. It is not often that a connection is needed directly across from one siding to another. Nor to provide a trap, because there are two trap catch points separately shown. But if you have photos showing full slips... p.s. if the plan is accurate, the tandem is in fact a 3-throw -- both switches are shown together. cheers, Martin. posted: ...
... can see the sawn gaps in the timbering in the pointwork and the rather generous gapping in the sleepers in the two tracks in the rear which is as supplied ready insulated. These were sleepers I got about thirty years ago for another N scale layout. The other PCB materials are 2mm Association products. Jim. Certainly a picture worth a thousand words. I have taken a copy for future reference, let me know if this is not ok with you. One question. It looks as though the only soldering is on the outside of the straight rails, is this so? I would have expected this to pull them over somewhat. It will be a great saving if I can do this on any straights I make. I doubt this would be so when making points, am I right? From your last paragraph it seems maybe I should join the 2mm Association but they sure don't make it easy. I can't remember the last time I sent something by ordinary mail. regards ken posted: 15 Jan 2010 08:47 from: Jim Guthrie ...
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