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... options in 0.91c. Thanks again for the messages. All the best, posted: 24 May 2011 05:02 from: Martin Wynne Brian Nicholls wrote: The Vee crossing at top end crossover is 1: 9.5 The Vee angle at lower end crossover is 1: 6.91 Clearly this falls right into the category of a mixed diamond Hi Brian, The V-crossing angles are largely irrelevant. Only if the K-crossing angles span the limit will you get a mixed diamond. They probably don't. Why not join the development group and try it again in TDV? Apart from solving the angle question you will see how much easier it is to create irregular diamonds. You don't have to abandon 091c, TDV installs separately. regards, Martin. posted: 24 May 2011 16:44 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Martin, Many thanks for the response, sorry if I've taken you away from coding on this topic, but thought I would mention it so that it may be incorporated in the new pug before it arrives. I see your up ...
... posted: 20 Jul 2014 11:13 from: Howard I've been using Templot for some time now, but have found three problems, all of which seem very basic, and I cannot see how to overcome them.undefined First, I have moved the track to position (0 ,0 ), but it is above the horizontal datum. (I don't want the track here, this is just an illustration). Second, the trackpad grid shows as squares in the positive quadrant only. This is a problem because I am developing a layout where I want to plan each baseboard separately, starting from that on the far right, so I will have future baseboards in negative territory. Third, the outline of the baseboard has been generated as a rectangular shape, and modified via font/colours and setting the trackpad line width to 3. This setting is not saved when I save the background shapes. 2_200624_500000000.png Howard Watkins Attachment: attach_1882_2491_templottest_2014 _07_20_1054_25.box 220 posted: 20 Jul 2014 12:17 from: Martin Wynne Howard wrote: I've been using Templot for ...
63. Code Formatting
... get a third contributor he will have a completely different view from either of us! hahaha And so to the point of all this... You may have heard of the Go programming language, which was created by Google. In the Go community nobody ever talks about formatting. Not ever. It is a completely non-existent topic. The reason for this is that the compiler team also produced a code formatter which sits with the compiler and other tools and which everyone uses. It appears to be unthinkable to Go developers not to format their code using it. Now, it is almost something of a joke in that community that nobody likes what it does- at least not completely. There are some good bits and some bad bits, but of course nobody agrees on what the good and bad bits actually are! But what they all DO agree on is that standardisation is the most important thing, and so it is at once universally disliked and universally accepted. As you probably know, Lazarus provides easy (integrated) access to a ...
... topic: 1499 TDV- general matters arising posted: 17 May 2011 02:49 from: Martin Wynne This topic is for general discussion about Templot Development Version (TDV). Please use the other topics in this forum, or create a new topic, to discuss specific features. http://85a.co.uk/forum/view_forum.php?id=17 posted: 18 May 2011 11:39 from: Martin Wynne There are some changes to the shortcut keys in TDV. These are not yet reflected in the help menu items or the F-key chart, so please don't waste ink printing them out. Full details of the changes were discussed here: topic 1124 from which: function: |old 091c shortcut:| new TDV shortcut:___| ____| _____|| mouse action: adjust|| V-crossing angle only| none- new| F9 (note 1)|| mouse action: adjust|| K-crossing angle only| none- new| F10| ...
... . I am sorry that my query was interpreted as- Templot cannot do this. I am going up a very steep learning curve and appreciate any assistance from the more knowledgeable people on the forum. Your program is terrific but I have not used it for many years and have realised I had not used it properly at all. I am keen to learn more and try to understand what I am shown and why it works. In time, my queries will reduce. Many thanks for all the hard work you put in developing Templot and for your great support. Very best wishes Peter posted: 23 Mar 2014 21:15 from: Martin Wynne Hi Peter, Sorry I was ratty. I'm being sorely tested by some irritating posts on RMweb today. Fortunately RMweb has now crashed, so I can turn the computer off and make myself a meal. cheers, Martin. posted: 23 Mar 2014 21:42 from: PeterD No problems Martin. I do not know how you keep this up. Enjoy your meal. Very best wishes Peter ...
66. Low-memory mode
... and wondering if this is one of them. But I don't want to remove stuff which anyone is still using. Likewise I would be interested to know how many are still using 256-colour (8 -bit palette) screens? Or 640 x 480 screen resolution? Templot includes a lot of code to deal with such things, and the very first release would run happily on such systems. I wouldn't want to run 091c on such a system, as it's a long while since I took such requirements into consideration in developing new features. What is the mimimum spec which it would now be reasonable to assume? I still try to make things work on 800 x 600, but even that is beginning to look old hat. The BBC website and iPlayer now require 1024 width. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Jun 2010 13:23 from: Dennis Mowatt Hi Martin, None of this affects me at all. Regards Dennis Martin Wynne wrote: Since the beginning Templot has included a "low-memory" mode, but I would ...
... /Excactoscale templates, they are the LNER's interpretation of REA specifications. What about all the S&C that preceded the REA designs? Regards Alan Last edited on 1 Jan 2014 23:32 by Alan Turner posted: 1 Jan 2014 23:49 from: Michael Woolford Well, then they would be standard designs for that era, however even if something like this was done, to please most people then GWR and more modern standardised designs would have to be included. Not that it matters as it's not going to be developed any further. Michael Last edited on 1 Jan 2014 23:52 by Michael Woolford posted: 2 Jan 2014 00:05 from: Martin Wynne Michael Woolford wrote: Not that it matters as it's not going to be developed any further. Hi Michael, I wouldn't say that. Anyone is welcome to attach a .box file of templates here to share with other users. That's what the "Share and show" section of Templot Club is for: http://85a.co.uk/forum/view_forum.php?id=12 ...
... very detailed indeed, and in just about every case solved the issue at hand. Now my idea is, to carefully go through all your postings with those detailed explanations relating to Templot2, and collate them into a document that could be turned into either (or both) a PDF doc, and or an HTML web page(or pages) that is easily accessible. I think doing this would give a beginner (and new user) also in some cases more experienced users all the information they need to get on with developing a track plan in Templot and to save burdening you with queries. It will most likely answer all the usual questions you see appearing frequently on the club forum. I would like to try and achieve this collation, and it will undoubtedly take some time, and I have to advise you that I am (in priority) committed to considerable LNWR society activities. All the best, Brian posted: 5 Jul 2015 13:58 from: Trevor Walling Hello Martin, As a linux user I can use Templot in its ...
... Sep 2017 01:36 by John Palmer posted: 26 Sep 2017 00:17 from: Andrew Barrowman A less expensive version here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/102711-drawing-curves-on-the-baseboard/ posted: 30 Nov 2017 14:18 from: Craig Scarisbrick I would like to take this opportunity to help answer some of the points raised. As the inventor of the 3CP curve plotting tool, I would first like to present the background. The tool was developed due to the need to construct a 5 inch track gauge miniature railway extension hampered by many obstacles to negotiate and limitations to routes available. A simplified large scale version of the tool was constructed, machined and calibrated to forward plot along the centre-line of the intended route, i.e. the tool does not require a centre of radius. Careful track geometry was important, such as transition curves and smooth constant curves as we were carrying people (in many respects like full size railways). This was the only accurate ...
... topic: 1718 Templot Development Version (TDV) posted: 7 Dec 2011 19:20 from: BVaux Good evening Martin, Am I too late to be considered for the TDV of Templot 2? I willingly concur with all your requirements regarding this software. And may I say that I really believe that you are doing the right thing, mainly for yourself and subsequently, all of us who enjoy model railways. Trackwork is an amazingly complex subject and to have the software available to produce replica arrangements in such a diverse range of scales is truly remarkable. Please do look after yourself. Kind regards and many thanks. Brian posted: 7 Dec 2011 19:52 from: Martin Wynne Thanks Brian. You are now purple. The current TDV download and instructions are here: topic_1500&forum_id=18 However, there will be an update later this week with different instructions, so you will need to download again then. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your ...
... topic: 1298 New User of Templot posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:00 from: couzenss Martin, Using the Y point tuturial I have produced this OK and then added further templates to this successfully. But I have a problem in that these are running outside the printable area of the drawing pad. Note I developed the Y point on the initial start position on the Drawing Pad Is it possible to move this group of templates on the drawing pad, both from a printing point of view and also to allow further developement of this plan. Thank You Stuart posted: 1 Dec 2010 13:25 from: phileakins Hi Stuart Probably the quickest way is to create a group with all the templates (ctrl+ a) and then move the group with the mouse (shift+ ctrl+ f7- or select from the Group menu which is easier!) then ctrl+ y to cancel the group. I expect someone will be along later to tell you how to move the pad origin as I can't get it to work. Phil posted ...
72. File names etc
... to why you have not followed normal "Windows" practice by placing the file name on the top bar of the window. It says "trackpad....[no mouse actions active]. I get your comments about how the filename is not created until you save it but if I load a box file then it would be a great help if the screen showed that and not have to use two or more mouse clicks find the most recent loaded file. As others have said, we save various stages of development in separate files and knowing at a glance which one I loaded from would be a significant help. From a software development viewpoint( 40+ years) the Windows platform works because developers all use the same protocols and standards. Therefore anyone using a program running on Windows knows what the keys and buttons do and where information is stored. Deviating from this causes confusion. Having said that- I am very impressed with the scope of Templot and find it very useful indeed. But it would be good if I could see ...
... topic: 1646 Thank you Mr Norton... posted: 5 Oct 2011 22:32 from: Gordon S Went to open the latest Development version again this evening and this happened... 479_051725_190000000.jpg That nice Mr Norton not only wouldn't allow me in, it seems to have deleted the whole thing. I didn't see the restore option at the time as I was so surprised what had happened. Will I be able to reload the program and use the same unlock key? I've no idea why it did that as I used it a day or two ago. I did install a new graphics card today, but that shouldn't impact it....or will it? Edit: Managed to restore it from the Quarantine History, but still wondering why it happened. Last edited on 5 Oct 2011 22:36 by Gordon S posted: 5 Oct 2011 22:44 from: Rob Manchester Gordon, For god sake get rid of Norton from your PC. The only good product with that name that I have seen had handlebars and a ...
... topic: 2805 File names appearing on screen and on prints posted: 12 Dec 2015 09:01 from: Gordon S When I am designing a layout, I will save variants each time as I develop the plan, so I can always go back to an earlier version if the latest changes don't work. Once I have finished work, I may not return to Templot for several days or weeks and then can always pick up where I finished in the start up programme. Returning to the last images on screen is not an issue, but when I get there I may not be able to recall which version I was working on. I've searched high and low, but can't find a place where the file name appears on screen or within the menu items. I'm guessing it is there somewhere but blowed if I can find it. This then continues into printed items where I may end up with several templates taped together of various versions and it would be really useful if the file name appeared somewhere on the printed sheets. Apologies again, ...
... have it- a screen looking exactly like what you saw when you last closed it down. Even better, if you just want to print-out a Template from an existing box file, you could just load the "Project" and hit print- WITHOUT having to go through endless menus to de-select "Radial end marks" "Centre line" Timber Numbering" etc as you (well me at any rate) have to do currently. Even better, if I wanted to distinguish between say, a "development" and "Current working" version of my project, I could create project files with different screen colours. When I then re-load them, I know immediately which one I am working with and what I should/ should not do with it! A further advantage would be that it would not need to replace what already exists- people who just want to work with a .box file only could do so- Templot then simply reverting to its current defaults. But there is a massive downside- all those who ...
... file and the number of entities created. Most users find it better to use a scanned image directly as a picture shape rather than vectorizing it to a DXF. There is a video showing how to import a scanned image as a picture shape: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/map_picture_shape.exe Note that this will be all-change in the next Pug -- JPG, PNG and GIF images will be supported in addition to BMP. You can try the changes now if you would like to join the TDV development group. regards, Martin. posted: 17 Jul 2011 17:25 from: Bob Juleff Hi Martin, Thanks for your reply. I am afraid I am no further forward despite following your video step by step with my Templot. The problem seems to be in saving and recovering the image. I am ok with the import of my .bmp file into the C:/Templot/Shape Files/ and getting it up on my template. But when I save it (save all as button), the file ...
... even a twinkle in Martin's eye when I first started, I should be most grateful. Firstly I need to draw a 24ft by 13ft rectangle (the shed), followed by a second rectangle 103mm inside the first (the inner wall), then create the continuous running line (c /l 75mm inside the inner wall- works out at about 5ft 11ins radius at the ends, I think), then finally add a passing loop each side (one to clear a 190mm wide island platform, from which I can develop the rest of the station- based on St. Agnes on the GWR Newquay branch; the second at running line/siding spacing from which to develop the fiddle yard). I know that later, when I need to insert the catch points and the double slip, I will have to face "partial templates", the mention of which has always sent shivers down my spine. Many thanks, Andrew Howlett posted: 15 Aug 2017 13:22 from: Martin Wynne Hi Andrew, Welcome back. Don't use ...
78. Large layout
... you really going to build all that in P4? Could you clarify what you mean by "share it with friends"? Send them the .box file? (They will need to have their own copy of Templot.) Send them an image file to view on their own computer? Send them a PDF file to print themselves? Print a large diagram for the club notice board? Print it all on a single A4 sheet? Post it on the club's web site? It would be worth your while joining the Templot development group. Using TDV you can easily create image files, PDF files, and produce neat layout plans using the new diagram mode. regards, Martin. posted: 23 Aug 2011 08:53 from: s55evo Hi Martin, Thanks for the reply, yes I do intend to build it all in P4, with a little help from my friends, the Crewe area group of the Scalefour society. The front part of the layout already exists, the original model of Ambergate by John Webb, which I have re- ...
... on Templot Club for open-source Templot posted: 18 Jun 2018 01:32 from: Martin Wynne Friends, Recent new members here must be thinking they have joined a forum about computer programming rather than track design. Apologies for that -- we do normally talk about using Templot rather than programming it. As I approach 70 years of age, after 40 years of working on Templot one way or another, I wanted to find a way of ensuring it remains available for anyone who wants it if I'm unable to continue developing and supporting it, or running this web site, for any reason. So I've been releasing the Templot program code files as open-source files. That's proved to be more of a challenge than I expected. After some discussions and fits and starts we have decided to have 2 separate sets of open-source files, intended for slightly different purposes. They are starting off identical. I have created 2 new forum sections on Templot Club, for talking about these open-source versions of Templot: TemplotMEC nuts and ...
... topic: 1433 An approach to building complex formations posted: 26 Mar 2011 17:36 from: JFS Dear All, I am just in the process of starting some track for my new layout and thought people might be interested in the way I have tackled it, involving as it does some complex bits and pieces. I have also posted a thread in the Nottingham Area Group forum in the S4 forum- so that tells you that the gauge is P4! My track building approach is "unconventional" but has been developed to maximise the benefits of "modern technology" such as functional plastic chairs, Templot templates etc. I have also tried plenty of other ways of doing the job and all have upsides and downsides so I would say that I have adopted my approach in the knowledge of, rather than out of ignorance of Other Ways! But please don't anyone suggest using tubular rivets- I have knocked up several thousand of them and can see no need ever to use another one- ever! I built a Test Track to "prove ...
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