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... and (G )WR services is appealing. When I discovered 4-SF/OO-SF I was immediately taken by the concept. Although Oby will be P4 Bosmellin will not. P4 requires more time and has a higher cost (wheels, chassis, etc etc) than 4mm other scales and I can afford to allocate neither at this time to a layout of this size. Bosmellin is intended to be a portable layout. However, the space I have available 3.47m x 2.54m is only just large enough for the outside dimensions of the track plan basing this on a minimum radius anywhere of 916mm (3ft to all intents and purposes) and ensuring that the SR loop and Siding One (the exchange with the GWR) can accommodate the Bodmin North branch passenger train- a P set- when augmented by a third carriage and headed by an 'N' Class. Thus the scenic areas outside the track will be created as separate modules. While the track plan has turned out to be an almost regular oval when surrounded by the scenery I intend ...
102. Irregular slips
... bigger but then there wouldn't be a the same curvature through the ladder and turnout. I would also be interested to know how close the V should be to a whole number or half of one e.g. 1:6, 1:6.5, 1:7 and so on.Thanks for any advice posted: 23 Dec 2020 12:45 from: Martin Wynne Hi Graham, Those crossing angles are too short for an inside slip, other than perhaps in industrial sidings. At those angles it would be more usual to have an outside slip or a half-scissors. Please if possible post your .box file with questions, otherwise I have to guess what it is exactly that you are trying to do. I think you are making a single line branch junction curving away from the outside of curved double track. In such locations a half-scissors is the most likely, rather than a slip. Something like this perhaps: 2_230728_020000000.png Or maybe something more spacious and easier to build: 2_230743_340000000.png If you post your .box file I can be more specific in ...
... rail, which I suspect would make it very hard to get adequate clearance between open switch and stock rail. Hi Nigel, I know nothing about the EMGS turnouts, I can talk only about the prototype: 2_141732_480000000.jpg On a prototype REA B-switch, the switch rails span a total of 10 timbers (i.e. 9 beyond the first stretcher bar). The first 6 timbers have slide chairs. They are easily identified in photos because the stock rail is bolted to them, and the bolts are easily seen on the outside of the rail. Beyond the 6 slide chairs there are 4 block chairs, numbered 1 ..4, handed for left or right side. In the first 2 block chairs the switch rail is not constrained on the inside, and is free to flex open. They could also be called slide chairs, although the stock rail is keyed to them in the usual way, not bolted. This means that the switch rail is free to flex open over a total of 8 timbers. In the final 2 block chairs to the ...
104. Memories for Martin
... The postcode given for the PO box address is of course the old post office/delivery office in your home town before the post office moved to the CO-OP site. The architecture of the old crown post offices is quite appealing, at least the HSBC didn't spoil it too much. The model for sale today was 'around' £200. It came to a dealer in bulk lot from a chap in the Nottingham area who had moved on. A knowledgable viewer commented that you had some of the models assembled by outside contractors but maybe you can confirm this. One feature I noticed was the wheel pickups were flat PB strip that had a neat 90 degree twist in the middle which I haven't seen on a model for a long time. I guess it stiffens the strip. Each of the axles had black paint marks around the centres- maybe to mark the wheel set/axles for assembly. The model was in good company as there were several of Jim McGeown's nice kits for sale. Rob posted: 22 Apr 2018 23:33 ...
... Mar 2009 23:20 from: Scott Willis Hi Guys You may remember my previous posting regarding a layout designed to fit in my railway room. Like most modellers, available space in which to build a layout is limited. For me it is a small box room measuring 10'x9'. The design is based on a small North British Railway urban terminus, in S-Scale. To give maximum running in a small room, the station area is spread around the room in a 'u' shape with the fiddle yard situated outside in the hallway. Of course, the fiddle yard will only be erected for running sessions. The inner two lines are the 'up' and 'down' lines,the third outer most line entering the fiddle yard leads to an imaginery off scene goods yard and loco shed. The outer most line leads to an imaginery off scene harbour. There have been some slight changes made to the original design, timbers have been shoved and check rails adjusted. Working from what few pictures I have, and with a bit of artistic ...
... a bonus timber in timber shoving then shortening the main part of the template. You could try calling up timber shoving and getting rid of the oddball sleeper. Jim. Jim, Thanks, but as far as I'm aware I've never shoved a timber or deleted rails etc. Richard posted: 11 Apr 2010 13:01 from: Martin Wynne Richard Spratt wrote: How did it get there? And how do I get rid of it? Hi Richard, As Jim suggests, the most likely explanation for a timber so far outside the template boundary is that it has been shoved there. To remove it, start the shove timbers function -- real> shove timbers menu item. Then click on the number of this sleeper (not the sleeper itself). The sleeper will turn red. Then click the restore timber button. Hide the shove timbers dialog. Another possible reason is that you are using a custom plain track setting with some significant error in the sleeper spacings. However, I think in that case you would have noticed other anomalies and ...
107. Contingency planning
... Rob Manchester wrote: I would like to nominate 5.13.1- partial templates to go on the NOD list. A few people ask me how they work and I always worry that I am not confident in their use Can all the Forum posts be backed up? I think there may be an awful lot of data there but it forms a very valuable reference. Hi Rob, Many thanks for saving the PDF. That bus surely can't get both of us at the same time. Alan asked recently about partial templates for his irregular outside-slip. I recall writing something quite recently and making a bit of video, but I can't find it. In the meantime here is a 12-year-old post which summarises the basic methods: topic 195- message 981 The forum database is backed up on a daily basis by Jim. In the sense that the server crashes or fails or whatever. In fact it failed to restart one day recently after some maintenance work, and he restored the whole thing from the previous day's backup, probably without anyone ...
108. Is my Slip workable?
... your expert opinion EDIT: just noticed the slip rails have disappeared, not sure why, but I'll have a go at putting them back! cheers Ian Attachment: attach_1223_1673_4gig2_slip.box 303 Last edited on 1 Nov 2011 11:10 by RedgateModels posted: 1 Nov 2011 16:27 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian, 1:4 is too short for an inside slip. The radius would be too tight and constructing the K-crossings would be extremely difficult. The usual way to deal with such a situation is to use an outside slip instead, like this: 46_060821_570000000.jpg Your plan includes some A-4 turnouts. An A switch is really too long for a 1:4 V-crossing. You would get an easier radius, and have shorter turnouts to save some space, by changing to a 9ft straight switch instead. That's at template> switch options... menu item. Your file contains 106 templates of which 91 are unused. If the unused ones are no longer wanted you can remove them by clicking the box> delete unused ...
... topic: 900 Chairs for Straight Heel Switches posted: 18 Jul 2009 20:21 from: Richard Spratt I'm modelling three pre-group companies in South Wales, Barry, Rhymney and the Pontypridd, Caerphilly& Newport. The first challenge has been to discover what type of track they each used. The Rhymney still had a considerable amount of flat bottom rail in use at the grouping according to Kidner, so flat bottom it will be. Photos of Barry track show flat bottom, inside and outside keyed bullhead. So I've decided to go for bull head as Penrhos was a later build. For the PC&N, I've found a couple of photos taken at Treherbert, Groswen and Pontypridd which show outside key bullhead. The next challenge has been to find out about the rail chairs used on bullhead straight heel switches. So far I've turned up a blank. Were the chairs after the heal special chairs? Or just normal chairs squeezed in? Many thanks Richard Last edited on 19 Jul 2009 14:41 by Richard Spratt Parts of Templot ...
... topic: 796 32 mm Gauge/16mm scale Single Slip posted: 25 Apr 2009 09:06 from: NGT_Models Hi, I've just finished building a 3-Way Stub, based on a TEMPLOT drawing I did, and now I need to do an Outside Single Slip. Can anyone direct me to a 32mm gauge TEMPLOT file I might use as a starting point, please? Thank you, Zoë Attachment: attach_543_796_3-Way_Stub_Point-02.jpg 171 Last edited on 25 Apr 2009 09:07 by NGT_Models posted: 25 Apr 2009 10:47 from: Raymond NGT_Models wrote: Hi, I've just finished building a 3-Way Stub, based on a TEMPLOT drawing I did, and now I need to do an Outside Single Slip. Can anyone direct me to a 32mm gauge TEMPLOT file I might use as a starting point, please? Thank you, Zoë Is this any use to you Zoé? Regards Raymond Attachment: attach_544_796_Club_slip.box 255 posted: 25 Apr 2009 19:49 from: NGT_Models Raymond wrote: NGT_Models wrote: Is this any ...
... topic: 787 Honner Turnout Calculator posted: 12 Apr 2009 20:10 from: William Adkins I thought I would cut my teeth on Templot by designing a Sn3 curved turnout 30" outside radius/28" inner radius. I entered data in a Honner Turnout Calculator and among other values I see that the frog angle is 3.58 degrees. Have others used the Honner Calculator and what values go where in Templot? I'm sure much of my frustration is that I am at the very beginning of a learning curve and that I am unfamiliar with British terminology. Reminds me a bit of: England and America are two countries separated by a common language. -- George Bernard Shaw Any help will be appreciated... in the meantime back to the Tutorials! Bill posted: 12 Apr 2009 21:57 from: Martin Wynne William Adkins wrote: I thought I would cut my teeth on Templot by designing a Sn3 curved turnout 30" outside radius/28" inner radius. I entered data in a Honner Turnout Calculator and among other values ...
... another. And saving- and opening- files, is pronably one of the most essential things to get working. But for the past week I've been looking into something different: Martin Wynne wrote: EMF files are the basis of the sketchboard function and the PDF exports, and valuable in background picture shapes, so need a workaround somewhere. The Delphi TMetafileCanvas functions are also not supported in Lazarus, but I did eventually get the EMF stuff working in Templot3 using direct API calls. This part will get interesting: EMF support outside of Windows is unfortunately quite poor (and there's no cross-platform Pascal library that I can find). From what I can tell, Microsoft's is the only full implementation. For PDF exports, I'm hoping Graeme's work will help- and I'm looking forward to seeing it! For background picture shapes, meanwhile, the options seem to be:- LibreOffice probably has the strongest non-Microsoft EMF implementation, but that's tighly coupled to LibreOffice. At the very least, people could use LibreOffice to convert EMF to a ...
... from: Paul Hamilton Thanks Raymond for the draft plan too. Payment has been made and I look forward to completing the plan and getting this off to Brian for laser cutting. Best regards, Paul. posted: 26 Mar 2009 14:25 from: Mike Pogson Martin Wynne wrote: I have now sent Brian hi-res raster and DXF vector versions of this, to try on the laser: all_red_laser_outline_timber.png regards, Martin. Hi Martin, The above image is very interesting. Was it created within Templot or in an outside CAD programme. Has any allowance been made for the cutting kerf? I have resolved the issue of laser cutting Templot files onto wood and plastic bases. Would you mind sending me a copy of the above file so that I can give it a go. I have attached some images that show what can be done. Section+ of+ trackwork+ as+ imported+ as+ dxf.jpg The first image above is the dxf file as exported from Templot and viewed in my CAD programme. It is just over 3'6" ...
... design, not necessarily an end in itself that can draw any track imagined with all the wing rails, check rail etc in the right place for some obscure logging railroad in the Urals. For construction purposes I can put in the appropriate check rails etc. without having to have them drawn in on the template. If I am not mistaken, most of what Templot does is based on GWR practice at some time in the past. This may not be strictly in accordance with other railway practices now or long ago, particularly outside the UK. Martin has given us the tools in Templot to make changes as we see fit in timbering and other design aspects. It is our task to determine the particular practices of our chosen railway if we wish to model track that closely. We all appreciate his desire to put more features into Templot, and that from time to time he asks for ideas for those additions. He, as developer of the software, is cognizant of what is both possible and practical to put into any upgrades. To compare its ...
115. Stewarts Lane Jn
... . posted: 21 Jan 2009 11:53 from: Phil O Jim Guthrie wrote John, Interesting timbering on the crossing(s) in the centre of the picture. What looks like narrower timbers than normal and very close together- presumably to support the very short rails in the crossing. Jim. Hi I wouldn't fancy packing that lot. Cheers Phil posted: 21 Jan 2009 12:05 from: Jim Guthrie Just looking at the picture again, I'm intrigued as to what has caused the light marking about two foot outside the rails on the crossing road. I can't see similar marking on the other roads where there is no conductor rail. Jim. posted: 21 Jan 2009 12:11 from: Phil O Jim Guthrie wrote: Just looking at the picture again, I'm intrigued as to what has caused the light marking about two foot outside the rails on the crossing road. I can't see similar marking on the other roads where there is no conductor rail. Jim. Hi Jim It looks as if something has dripped off the condutor ...
... I have realised that finding labels the K-crossings is going to be much more difficult unless we choose to treat separately those cases where both track centrelines are curved but their radii are struck from centres located on opposite sides of the long axis of the diamond. For the cases where either or both tracks have curved centrelines with their radii struck from centres located on the same side of the long axis of the diamond or a track with a curved centreline crosses a straight track I suggest "inside K-crossing" or "outside K-crossing" as appropriate, "inside" or "outside" referring to the curved track. For the case where the tracks have curved centrelines struck from opposite sides of the long axis of the diamond all I can suggest is the use of "points of the compass" labels i.e "East K-crossing" and "West K-crossing" just as one sees in photographs of bridge spans loaded for transport "Bridge XXX span YY East side North end" stencilled onto a conspicuous place on each end ...
... been done by overlaying ontop of the NLS map of York- thanks for that feature Martin! Mike Attachment: attach_3040_3665_York.box 78 posted: 12 May 2020 22:14 from: Martin Wynne Hi Mike, That's an irregular diamond-crossing. You can add slip roads to an irregular diamond, but it has to be done manually rather than using the automatic make tools. However, there is no way you can add inside slip roads to that one, because the angle is only around 1:4. You would need an outside slip for that, which doesn't match the photo, and certainly wouldn't need a switch-diamond. I will have a play and see if I can find something closer to the photo. cheers, Martin. posted: 12 May 2020 22:41 from: Mike Kynaston Martin Wynne wrote: Hi Mike, That's an irregular diamond-crossing. You can add slip roads to an irregular diamond, but it has to be done manually rather than using the automatic make tools. However, there is no way you can ...
118. Settlebeck Gill
... your loop is set on a fairly tight radius you may want to increase this slightly further. Before making a simple crossover change the centre-to-centre spacing of your track: geometry> adjacent track centre> In the data-entry form, increase the adjacent track centres TS field by 8mm (44.67mm to 52.67mm). Regards Scott posted: 18 Jan 2009 09:03 from: Phil O Hi Alberta I have just had a quick look at your track plan and the biggest thing I have spotted is that the outside half of your entry crossover has a radius of 23.7 ins which is a bit tight. in full size this is under 2 1/2 chains in EM you won't get much more than 0-4 -0s and 4 wheel wagons round this. Cheers Phil posted: 18 Jan 2009 10:46 from: Alberta, Thanks for the help gents i will have another crack at it today& see if i can come up with something a bit better. posted: 18 Jan 2009 15:05 from: Alberta ...
119. The Spare Room
... . I don't have a great deal of knowledge of how the real permanent way was designed or constructed so I would be grateful if you could pass comment. The space available for the layout is in the spare room, measuring 10'x9'. To enable me to have as long a running length as possible I have designed the layout to be 'U' shaped. Starting from the bay platform situated along one wall, the track turns through 180 degrees, runs along the other wall and into the fiddle yard which will be situated outside the room in the hallway. The fiddle yard will only be erected for running sessions. The inner two lines are the up and down lines running between the station and the fiddle yard. A double span bridge will hide the entry into the fiddle yard. The two outer lines are the goods arrival/departure and a run-round loop. Two lines branch off the outer lines and return back to the fiddle yard. The outer most line returns to an imaginary West dock whilst the third outer line returns to an ...
... seen it in any UK prototype but have seen Continental HO model versions- this one ROCO. There is a common running rail with splayed ends going right down the middle of the double slip. Is there a real prototype of this formation, or is it just a "manufacturers convenience"? Attachment: attach_3067_3672_ROCO_double_slip .jpg 175 posted: 18 May 2020 17:51 from: Martin Wynne RogerW wrote Is there a real prototype of this formation, or is it just a "manufacturers convenience"? Hi Roger, It's a double outside-slip of the German Baeseler pattern: 507px-2001-07-19.0004.DKW-Baeseler.jpg This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license Quite common on the continent but not used (as far as I know) in the UK. The outside-slip design allows for a shorter crossing angle at the same radius, for cramped station throats. Or an easier radius for higher speed in running lines. Can be done in Templot with a bit of fiddling about, but not easy to ...
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