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... topic: 3474 How to join/align 2 templates? posted: 3 Aug 2019 02:19 from: drrsenior I am sure this is very basic but I have been unable to find the answer.I am designing a shed layout and have been making decent progress. Have battled through divergent turnouts with adequate success. Where I am struggling is linking adjacent tracks with a turnout as a simple operation. Attached is a file showing a simple example of what I mean. (Deliberately so there is no easy drop in curve) I have say 2 shed roads which are fixed, lengthen one of the roads and insert a turnout. What is the best way to now link the other road to the turnout? To date I have had to put plain track on either end of the gap and then fiddle around with length and radius until they meet neatly: I presume there is a better way? Attachment: attach_2865_3474_linking_question .box 161 posted: 3 Aug 2019 10:28 from: Tom Allen i'm a pretty new beginner myself so i doubt my answer is ...
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... item. Have a different gauge for every template in your track plan if you wish. However, that is not what you want to do. You also want to change the scale. That's not something Templot expects in the middle of a track plan. Do this: 1. make double track at required spacing. 2. store the new track on the background. 3. use the gauge menu to select the new gauge/scale. 4. click on the background template just created. 5. click peg/align tools> align the control template over, and snake onto peg> facing-facing (or press P, K, F). 6. click on the background template again. 7. click peg/align tools> extend/shorten the control template to meet at> at CRTL-9 (or press P, O, 9). 8. click on the background template again and delete it. Repeat for each starting template. This will work for straight or curved templates. cheers, Martin. posted ...
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... e.g. steps, twists, gauge narrowing, etc.) on one siding to see how well stock copes with substandard track? And well done on getting the blocked timbers on the crossovers – that's a trick I haven't managed yet. Cheers Rod posted: 21 May 2009 10:00 from: Andy G And well done on getting the blocked timbers on the crossovers – that's a trick I haven't managed yet. Rod, I could be wrong in understanding what you are meaning here. If you are referring to the timbers aligning through the cross overs please be aware that this did not always occur. The important fact was the special chairs at the crossing. These had to be positioned at specific spacings from the crossing nose and the timber locations were therefore determined. The spacings are 2'6" or 10mm in P4 and as Templot places them by default. Thus you should not be shoving the timbers along the turnout at the crossing. What you may need to do is shorten or lengthen them. There are plenty of examples of nearly aligned timbers meeting ...
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... , Welcome to Templot Club. Good to hear from you. The make slip function can create only regular slips, where both roads are straight, or both curved to the same radius in the same direction. To create an irregular slip where the radii differ, you need to start from an irregular diamond-crossing. To create one of those, first put a length of plain track along both roads. One as a background template, the other in the control template. Then click the background template, and peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at intersection. You then need to add the slip road(s) to that manually. For details of how to do that, see this video: http://templot.com/sk5/irregular_single_slip _.sk5 If you attach your .box file here, it may be possible to make more detailed suggestions. regards, Martin. posted: 28 Dec 2017 16:58 from: Philip Griffiths hello Martin, box file attached. map is too big to post. Attachment: attach_2604_3163_ebbw_vale-dec17.bgs ...
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... (which I should have done in the first place): 2_161247_070000000.jpg At A I think I can see the top corner of a fishplate. If it was bolted tight it would be flush with the rail head. Which suggests that the bolts in the closure rail are quite loose (and maybe tight in the switch rail?). Here's a drawing of BH fishplates: 2_161306_210000000.png It's clear that if the bolts are not tight, not only can the rail move sideways as intended, but it's also not held firm in vertical alignment. So you wouldn't want to slack the bolts by more than a fraction. At one time I was convinced that there must be some detail of these loose-heel joints that I was missing. A spring washer under the nut perhaps? Over the years I've searched many times for a proper explanation. If they were used only in sidings and yards simply leaving the bolts a bit loose is a reasonable solution. But these switches were used in fast main lines -- the GWR didn't introduce flexible switches until the 1930s ...
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... : 1. start with a turnout of the required V-crossing angle, and TS track spacing centres. 2. do> turnout road> crossover 3. put the peg on TXP (CTRL-5) 4. do> snap to peg 5. tools> make mirror on peg 6. tools> make simple crossover 7. do> snap to peg 8. tools> make mirror on peg 9. store& background That works starting with a straight or curved turnout, and gets you all the essential rail alignments. After which you can create all the partial templates needed for the final design. Edit for Templot2: It's now quite easy to create the centre diamond-crossing. tools> make branch track on both of the outer turnouts, and then make diamond-crossing at their intersection. If you start with a standard turnout the above procedure will most likely give you a type 1 scissors, with the V-crossings for the diamond in the turnout curves. However, it is generally easier to construct a type 2 scissors ...
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... gaining in popularity over inkjets. A possible solution is to make sure the paper is bone dry before use, for example by storing it near a radiator or in an airing cupboard. You could even try heating it before use, although it may distort afterwards as it returns to room conditions. Also, using thicker paper seems to help. I always print templates on 160gsm paper, which is almost a thin card. Apart from being more stable the trimmed pages are thick enough to be butted together like tiles, which makes aligning them much easier. But I don't know what thickness your printer would accept. regards, Martin. posted: 1 Mar 2009 14:25 from: Ashley I have this problem recently too. This is how I got around it. I found that I needed to start by laying the templates out from top to bottom, and right to left. So for me G1 was my first extreme right hand side template. Followed by the subsequent numbers. I laid the first template down, pinned it to some kappa board ...
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... Martin Wynne Good grief Geoff. You didn't mention the transition curve! Do you have a photo of the prototype? I'm not convinced all the crossings can be checked, but if the prototype could do it, then it should be doable in the model, especially if you are using S4-X with exact-scale flangeways. I've had a quick stab at a skeleton of the bottom part, but it's only a guess: 2_261710_180000000.png Please can you attach your .box file so that I can be sure I have the correct alignments? It's the sort of plan where a small change in radius or angle can be critical. To attach a .box file, click the Browse (or Choose) button below the writing area. The .box file will be found in your C:\TEMPLOT_DEV\BOX-FILES\ folder. cheers, Martin. posted: 26 Mar 2019 23:18 from: Geoff Lines Hello Martin( and Phil -- sorry got your name wrong on the last post). I thought you might be surprised! I have ...
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... easy to overdo the angle, but you can flatten it back by squeezing the rail in flat pliers. For a simple way of making a precise bend, see: topic 492 3. Make sure the section of rail between the set and the next mark is dead straight. Don't inadvertently curve it. 4. Beyond the second mark you can gently curve the rail between your fingers. 5. Lay the rail on the template. If it is a Templot template the two marks will be on the template. You can align the rail over the template and check that the set angle matches the template. Time spent at this stage checking and adjusting will be well repaid later. If you have stuck the timbers on the template, it is worth printing off another one to check the rail against more easily. 6. Fix the straight stock rail first, it is just plain rail. 7. Start fixing the curved stock rail at the switch front, gauging from the straight stock rail in the usual way. Don't go beyond the set yet ...
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... topic: 747 Fishplates posted: 1 Mar 2009 19:42 from: richard_t I asked on a recent thread, about the bonding of TC's over fishplates. I was out on Friday, and this first shot shows a fishplate with the bonding wires on the outside of the rail. I've tried to work out some of the lengths between the holes. On the left the holes are vertically aligned and around 25" from the end of the rail, whereas the holes on the right are horizontally aligned, with one being 22.5" and the other 24.5" from the end of the rail. This shot was at Carpenders Park on the DC lines, so the fishplate on the other rail was DC bonded with a much thicker cable. Note how the wires have been tucked inbetween the rail and the chairs and the larger joint chairs. Richard. Attachment: attach_501_747_fpb2.jpg 669 Last edited on 1 Mar 2009 19:51 by richard_t posted: 1 Mar 2009 19:49 from: richard_t The next shot I think is a little more interesting- this ...
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... of the superior trackwork, so it has to be part of the solution. However, "merely" a graphical representation and exchange doesn't really satisfy on two levels- It doesn't allow the joining of elements correctly inside the program- that is the object being entered into XTrackCAD should have end points that are correct as to position, angle and radius and center of curvature (the later two being determined by the piece of track entering into the end point). That way a piece of track joined to that trackwork will correctly align and have a compatible easement- it would be too bad to have a fantastic bit of hand-built Templot let down by a poor attachment to the mundane track work elsewhere. One would not be able to simulate even to a simplistic extent a train running across the new Templot trackwork (including all its switching possibilities). This is a mode that our users exploit to investigate the operability of an entire layout before committing to buy/build. Now the internals from an operating point of view only matter from a XTrackCAD ...
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... 30 from: stuart1600 Jim Guthrie wrote: Has anyone drawn up equivalents of the Peco Streamline 7mm scale turnouts in Templot? I'm particularly interested in the standard turnout.... First of all, an apology in advance, just in case anything/everything goes wrong with this posting, as it is my first attempt. Like Jim, I'm also interested in templates for the Peco 0 gauge pointwork, to be incorporated into hidden/storage areas of a planned layout, and it would be useful to ensure that tracks will align correctly in a continuous circuit. I had tried working out the geometry of the points but my understanding of Templot is not sufficiently advanced to be able to replicate all the idiosyncracies of the Peco point. But do I need to bother? Martin (I think) quoted the crossing angle as being 1:7.1. Would it be sufficient just to create a B7.1 template?- the length and internal geometry would be different, but presumably the angle of the turnout road would be accurate and this might be adequate for ensuring ...
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... , but could probably change either of the plain tracks or the left hand point slightly if this would help to solve the problem. Any suggestions, or a link to a previous tutorial or discussion on this subject will be gratefully received. Thanks Arthur Attachment: attach_1287_1756_outside_slip.box 244 posted: 31 Dec 2011 16:58 from: Martin Wynne LSWRArt wrote: Any suggestions, or a link to a previous tutorial or discussion on this subject will be gratefully received. Hi Arthur, An outside slip is essentially two overlapping turnouts. The basic alignments can be arrived at quite quickly. Here's a bit of Jing video showing how to do that: (give it a moment or two to download) Getting a known crossing angle in the diamond requires some experimenting with the V-crossing angles and radius in the starting turnout. The V-crossings in the slip road must clear the other crossings with enough space for all the wing and check rails. TDV now makes it easy to create the diamond if you split off the exit tracks. regards, Martin. posted ...
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... track centres... before you begin. Then the basic procedure to create an outline scissors crossover is: 2. do> turnout road> crossover 3. put the peg on TXP (CTRL-5) 4. do> snap to peg 5. tools> make mirror on peg 6. tools> make simple crossover 7. do> snap to peg 8. tools> make mirror on peg 9. store& background That works starting with a straight or curved turnout, and gets you all the essential rail alignments. To create the centre diamond-crossing do tools> make branch track on both of the turnouts on one side, and then peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at their intersection. Then split out all the partial templates to create a neat result. There is quite a lot more to say about scissors crossovers. For example only certain angles work at any given track spacing to ensure all V-crossings can be properly checked. You can also change between type 1 and type 2 scissors by adjusting the ...
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... from: Martin Wynne CoBo wrote: If I draw a plan which has two pieces of plain track crossing over each other forming an 'x', can Templot automatically convert the crossing point into some form of diamond crossing Hi Mike, Yes. Start with the two lengths of curved plain track crossing over each other, or one curved and one straight length. One should be a background template and the other should be the control template. Click on the background template. On its pop-up menu, click the peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at intersection menu item. Follow the instructions and wait a moment while Templot does the calculations. You will then need to split the underlying original background template and shorten each half back accordingly. The method won't work for transition curves*, it is for straights and fixed-radius curves only. Also it is very easy when testing to have the tracks crossing at too short an angle. Templot can't produce crossings shorter than 1: 1.5 RAM( i.e. not more than 33.7 degrees) ...
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... topic: 2790 Aligning track by radius centre marks posted: 23 Nov 2015 16:14 from: mikewturner Hi I am designing a circular test track where the inner 2 roads are OO and the outer 2 P4. I initially made them all 00 and re gauged the outer ones but they moved and I need to realign them by their centre marks. Is there an easy way to do this, I've looked through various commands but can't see anything obvious although I'm sure I've missed something. Regards Mike posted: 23 Nov 2015 16:34 from: Martin Wynne Hi Mike, Select the 00 templates you want to change as a group. Then go to gauge> other gauges... menu item. Select S4/P4 in the list, and then click the convert group button above the list. You are not changing the scale (4mm/ft) so they won't move. regards, Martin. posted: 23 Nov 2015 16:41 from: Martin Wynne p.s. Mike, If they have already moved, copy one of ...
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... centers coming into the fiddle yard (to the right) are 83.62mm, and ideally the exit on the left would be standard track centers. Any help, as usual, much appreciated. Attachment: attach_938_1281_mws_fiddle_yard_10 _11_08_1415_38.box 268 posted: 8 Nov 2010 16:59 from: Robert Preston Hi, I don't know if the attached is what you have in mind. I put fixed-radius curves on fiddle road #1 and up main. Extended them, curved them to about 6m, so they nearly touch and then did peg align make transition. I then extended each end of the transition curve to meet fiddle and main and deleted the temporary fixed rad curves. Repeat for fiddle #2 and down main. Robert Preston Attachment: attach_939_1281_mws_fiddle_yard_10 _11_08_1604_00RP.box 239 posted: 8 Nov 2010 17:13 from: Martin Wynne richard_t wrote: I wondered if there is a simple-ish way, of converting a slew to a set of transition curves. My attempts have been a bit rubbish so far. The reason for the conversion is that I need to put ...
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... the difference between 3way and tandem turnouts? I'm sure I've seen this once but couldn't find the topic again to reread it. What suggestions can you make for deciding which turnout settings work together sensibly? All the examples I've seen are for the middle road being the main road. I'm particularly interested in curved turnouts where either of the outer roads are the main road. I haven't been able to work out how to achieve this. Ideally it would be nice to be able to:- Insert a turnout into a plain track aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road peg/align turnout over an existing turnout aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road. Possibly neither of the latter ideas are appropriate within Templot's context. If so what work rounds are possible? I deliberately haven't included an example of what I'm attempting to achieve because it is the general theory rather than a specific example I'm looking for. regards Dave posted: 12 Jul 2012 21:29 from: Martin Wynne dave turner wrote: What is the difference between 3way ...
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... topic: 2609 Bug in generating a transition? posted: 7 Jan 2015 23:16 from: Chris Copplestone Hi Martin, The attached screenshot shows the problem. I'm linking a siding to the first turnout of a tandem using the standard procedure with just geometry> track centre-lines only for generating a transition. However after clicking peg/ align tools> make transition curve from current template> try right-hand first, although I get the required transition, I also get, as well as the centre-line, the MS running rail? Clicking geometry shows that the template is now normal although there is no timbering or a TS running rail?. When I open the omit rails and joint marks... menu and tick to get the TS running rail, it is out of gauge? Note that I have tidied up the template by lengthening it to join it to the siding and shortening it to just join the turnout. Is this a bug or am I doing something not allowed? Regards Chris Attachment: attach_2034_2609_trackpad_screensh ot_2015_01_07_2327_55.png 374 ...
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... can be used at the same time, it is not called a slip. That arrangement is called a half-scissors for one side road, and a full-scissors or scissors crossover for two side roads. regards, Martin. posted: 13 Apr 2012 16:19 from: Nigel Brown Hi Howard 2) and 3) wouldn't be available at the same time. The slip has two pairs of switches, one on the down line, and one on the bay line. The bay line switches can either be aligned to connect to the down line (case 2)or be aligned to cross the down line to connect with the up line (case 3). If you want (2) then you must also have the down line switches aligned to connect with the bay platform. In (1) the setting of the bay line switches doesn't matter. In (3) the setting of the down line switches doesn't matter. Hope that helps Nigel posted: 13 Apr 2012 16:28 from: Howard Thanks Martin for a ...
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