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... . posted: 21 Jan 2009 11:53 from: Phil O Jim Guthrie wrote John, Interesting timbering on the crossing(s) in the centre of the picture. What looks like narrower timbers than normal and very close together- presumably to support the very short rails in the crossing. Jim. Hi I wouldn't fancy packing that lot. Cheers Phil posted: 21 Jan 2009 12:05 from: Jim Guthrie Just looking at the picture again, I'm intrigued as to what has caused the light marking about two foot outside the rails on the crossing road. I can't see similar marking on the other roads where there is no conductor rail. Jim. posted: 21 Jan 2009 12:11 from: Phil O Jim Guthrie wrote: Just looking at the picture again, I'm intrigued as to what has caused the light marking about two foot outside the rails on the crossing road. I can't see similar marking on the other roads where there is no conductor rail. Jim. Hi Jim It looks as if something has dripped off the condutor ...
... design, not necessarily an end in itself that can draw any track imagined with all the wing rails, check rail etc in the right place for some obscure logging railroad in the Urals. For construction purposes I can put in the appropriate check rails etc. without having to have them drawn in on the template. If I am not mistaken, most of what Templot does is based on GWR practice at some time in the past. This may not be strictly in accordance with other railway practices now or long ago, particularly outside the UK. Martin has given us the tools in Templot to make changes as we see fit in timbering and other design aspects. It is our task to determine the particular practices of our chosen railway if we wish to model track that closely. We all appreciate his desire to put more features into Templot, and that from time to time he asks for ideas for those additions. He, as developer of the software, is cognizant of what is both possible and practical to put into any upgrades. To compare its ...
... the S1-J chairs on the first timber beyond the switch tips, which is not per drawing. The one on the right-hand side of the picture is broken on the inside and has a loose chair screw. Tsk! Tsk! Looks like the lengthman has been a bit remiss here. I can't see anything wrong on the first timber beyond the switch tips, but the timber immediately adjacent to the joint is apparently the one with a broken-off section of the right hand chair, and neither of the outside chair screws screwed full home. Perhaps that was the cause of the chair's fracture. And this on what seems to be a running line, judging by the track circuit bonding across the joint. posted: 25 Sep 2019 09:46 from: Martin Wynne John Palmer wrote: Martin Wynne wrote: Notice the S1-J chairs on the first timber beyond the switch tips, which is not per drawing. The one on the right-hand side of the picture is broken on the inside and has a loose chair ...
... Mar 2009 23:20 from: Scott Willis Hi Guys You may remember my previous posting regarding a layout designed to fit in my railway room. Like most modellers, available space in which to build a layout is limited. For me it is a small box room measuring 10'x9'. The design is based on a small North British Railway urban terminus, in S-Scale. To give maximum running in a small room, the station area is spread around the room in a 'u' shape with the fiddle yard situated outside in the hallway. Of course, the fiddle yard will only be erected for running sessions. The inner two lines are the 'up' and 'down' lines,the third outer most line entering the fiddle yard leads to an imaginery off scene goods yard and loco shed. The outer most line leads to an imaginery off scene harbour. There have been some slight changes made to the original design, timbers have been shoved and check rails adjusted. Working from what few pictures I have, and with a bit of artistic ...
... rail, which I suspect would make it very hard to get adequate clearance between open switch and stock rail. Hi Nigel, I know nothing about the EMGS turnouts, I can talk only about the prototype: 2_141732_480000000.jpg On a prototype REA B-switch, the switch rails span a total of 10 timbers (i.e. 9 beyond the first stretcher bar). The first 6 timbers have slide chairs. They are easily identified in photos because the stock rail is bolted to them, and the bolts are easily seen on the outside of the rail. Beyond the 6 slide chairs there are 4 block chairs, numbered 1 ..4, handed for left or right side. In the first 2 block chairs the switch rail is not constrained on the inside, and is free to flex open. They could also be called slide chairs, although the stock rail is keyed to them in the usual way, not bolted. This means that the switch rail is free to flex open over a total of 8 timbers. In the final 2 block chairs to the ...
... passion for A4's and the like. Standing at Wood Green and seeing an A4 plus 12 coaches thundering through is something you never forget. The need to model similar trains that will leave a terminus and travel some distance before disappearing is a goal I have tried to achieve. An earlier version of this layout got much further and it took a full 20 minutes for a train to leave the upper level, travel down through the lower levels and reappear. Unfortunately, I had to relay the levels and move the spiral to the outside of the layout as the storage yards became difficult to access and the gradients at 1:50 proved to be a problem. I have now cured that problem by dropping the lower level further and moving the spiral to the outside and incorporating an additional loop round. An A4 will now cope with 10 coaches up the 1:100 grade without problem so I know that is OK. Picking up your points in turn.. 1. I can move the carriage sidings around to the other side but width may be a ...
... 7 slide type chairs on a flexible switch rail, but I would look to support the stock rail as soon as possible. The center timber is a 16" timber made from 2 sleepers joined side by side and I would make double slide chairs by splicing standard ones together side by side The next timber to the center one I would use a standard slide chair The following slide chairs I would try and make a special slide chairs by using a standard slide chair suitably trimmed on the inside and a slide chair slide plate (outside part cut off) trimmed if necessary. I think this would be needed for the next 3 positions The next 2 timbers I would try and use standard slide chairs on the switch rails and standard chairs on the stock rails Whilst not fully prototypical I think it would give me the correct balance between following prototypical practice verses packability in model form posted: 9 Aug 2020 09:20 from: ikcdab Hayfield wrote: Somehow in trying to answer this thread I contributed to another on a different forum Ikcdab There is here a case ...
... options should be looked at. One is to use SMP for the track; SMP does EM. The 2mm Scale Association and the 3mm Society have both commisioned their own ranges of chaired track (I believe from the same supplier). Includes standard chairs, slide chairs and check rail chairs; for the rest you butcher standard chairs. Only one style of standard chair (LMS I think). A pragmatic solution. Maybe the EM gauge people should go the same way, or at least think about it in case the outside solutions go pear-shaped. posted: 7 Sep 2018 09:05 from: Hayfield Stephen Freeman wrote: They are not on the list of Traders Hayfield wrote: C&L will be there, but obviously not selling Exactoscale products Stephen Sorry thought you were talking about Scaleforum posted: 7 Sep 2018 09:10 from: Hayfield Nigel Brown wrote: Maybe other options should be looked at. One is to use SMP for the track; SMP does EM. The 2mm Scale Association and the 3mm Society have both ...
129. Large layout
... to be included in the file. In the TDV you have to select whether or not you wish them to be included in the pdf generation. Apologies if this wasn't clear. I'm using Adobe 10.1.1 so will try the other reader programme. Edit: Downloaded the new reader and all is fine as far as I can see. How do I 'trim' the file to just show the 13'-16' section? I used 'select group' to give a rough approximation of the area, but of course templates go outside the specific area I want to print. Last edited on 10 Nov 2011 16:25 by Gordon S posted: 10 Nov 2011 18:38 from: Tony W Gordon S wrote: Thanks Tony, I am aware of that. I only mentioned it to say that I would like the grid lines to be included in the file. In the TDV you have to select whether or not you wish them to be included in the pdf generation. Apologies if this wasn't clear. I'm using Adobe 10.1.1 so will try ...
... be a bit bumpy over the crossings, unless constructed with sharp-nose vees. Martin, Do P4 wheel makers actually have different tyre widths for loco and rolling stock wheels? I know that in S scale we only produce a wagon wheel profile from official drawings and that does for everything. Not all loco wheels were 6" wide. I have a drawing of a Drummond Caledonian 0-4 -0 pug where the wheels are 4 3/4" wide. I reckon this was to squeeze the motion behind the outside cylinder slidebars. I've also got drawings of six-coupled and longer wheelbases where the profiles of the central drivers are quite different to normal. Jim. posted: 11 Aug 2019 13:33 from: Martin Wynne Jim Guthrie wrote: Martin, Do P4 wheel makers actually have different tyre widths for loco and rolling stock wheels? I know that in S scale we only produce a wagon wheel profile from official drawings and that does for everything. Not all loco wheels were 6" wide. I have a drawing of ...
... the Scissors option, there might be issues of how to adequately check the vees for the two "inner" points, as they lie almost opposite the vees for the centre diamond especially given how fine they are. Either option would need switched Ks I suppose. Pity it is in the fiddle yard- we will all be wanting to watch you backing your train of a dozen 100t hoppers over itD Good Luck! Howard. posted: 11 Oct 2010 17:41 from: JFS Just had a quick play with the "Outside Slip" option- somewhere between the other two... see what you think... Regards, Howard Attachment: attach_921_1270_new_awrhyllgwami_1 0_10_11_1738_33.box 315 posted: 11 Oct 2010 17:50 from: John Preston Hi Richard Just another thought. The minimun radius through any of the crossover routes is 40.7 inches. Is this less than your minimum requirement? Regards John Last edited on 11 Oct 2010 18:06 by John Preston posted: 11 Oct 2010 19:55 from: Richard Spratt JFS wrote: Just had a quick ...
... are you using at the end of your checkrails? Mike, You've just reminded me that I haven't decided what radius to use. In the first turnouts I have made in 1:32 scale, I tried making them a tighter radius than the standard Templot ones but I'm not sure that I've made the radius tight enough. It's also a bit difficult to put a tightish radius on Code 180 bullhead and I suspect that I might need to make some king of press tool to do it in a vice. I've just popped outside to remind myself of what I have done- I store the track on the baseboards outside- plenty of room out there and that's where they are going to finish up in any case. I've basically used a shorter version of the Templot default straight bend but with a larger angle to give the same distance between the rail and the check rail flare end. I've gone back to the drawings on the oldpway site and one of them gives a largish drawing of a crossing nose and wing rails with some dimensions so it should ...
... topic: 3770 Movable K-crossings/ switch-diamond for a 1:10 double slip? posted: 15 Sep 2020 15:31 from: William Williamson When putting together a layout I've found a need for a 1:10 double slip. Thinking to myself, this'll be great- I ploughed forward. It was only when I printed the template out however, I noticed it didn't have any k-crossing wing rails. I rebuilt the slip outside of the layout and the same issue occured. Switching the size down to a 1:6 made them reappear: http://i.imgur.com/Vaiwxg7.png It looks like this is because Templot switches from fixed to movable K-crossings above 1:8- which i guess is fine, but I've no idea how that might work. I can see I can set them to be fixed here: topic 2408- but how are they intended to work? Another set of tie bars? Is there a material concern with the lack of a switched diamond in a 1:10 double ...
134. A junction
... . It's really just a double track circle with a terminus in the middle and a reversing loop option. I hope aligned the rails around the junction properly. Attachment: attach_2821_3414_RBshop4.box 191 posted: 11 May 2019 01:16 from: Martin Wynne Thanks for posting that Andy. Any updates? Is that the only H00-DN layout in captivity? At 32ft x 6ft you have plenty of length, but very tight on width for the end curves. Where will the operating space be for the terminus? Inside the loops or outside with the main lines between the controls and the station? I notice you have a fixed diamond at 1:9.5 which could cause some mis-tracking. At that angle most folks would go for a switch diamond. Are you planning to have the junction pointwork 3-D printed? cheers, Martin. posted: 19 May 2019 18:17 from: Andrew Barrowman Martin Wynne wrote: Thanks for posting that Andy. Any updates? Is that the only H00-DN layout in captivity? At 32ft x 6ft ...
... just a shunting plank. posted: 20 Mar 2016 22:42 from: Hayfield Nigel That's the idea in the long term. The short tern m is that I have a full height cupboard which is 50" wide and 30" deep with double doors so I can fit a 2'deep building bench and close the doors behind me. A board with the turnout, slip and shed will be about 4' long but at least the route to Parkway is curved, a bit of modellers licence will be required or perhaps go outside? Initially may be a good piece to demonstrate track building, and best of all I have all the parts in stock One thought is to change the slip into a switched diamond as the crossings are 1-6. Thanks for the info posted: 1 May 2016 10:40 from: Richard_Jones Hi Hayfield, Have you tried this resource for track plans: http://maps.nls.uk/view/105993571 There only appears to be the 1907/08 plan available on the 25" to the mile series Good luck ...
... jig at the correct angle from card/wood strip/ali strip, choice of materials will depend on how many vees you have to build/longevity needed Unless you have a lot of the same crossing angles, file in a vice by eye (may be worth making some simple jaw protectors from a pair of metal angle strips), slightly over file the angle rather than under file and the gap will be filled by solder. Make a simple jig from card to check angles Depending on the track wing rail gap the outside of the foot may need reducing on the wing rail, with the wing rail cut nicks on both sides where the rail is bent The switch rails are formed much the same way, file the back off the switch rail where it touches the stock rail, file off the head on the inside. The stock rail needs the foot filed back where the switch rail touches and I put nicks in the foot of the stock rail for the set bend The handlaidtrack frog jig looks excellent and similar to the vee filing jigs, ...
... 11 posted: 21 Dec 2020 12:07 from: Hayfield So here is my version, I think I have got the left hand turnout within the second part of the crossover, and why was it not a slip? looking at the map in the book it shows a wagon turntable and presumably a wagon lift to ground level The idea is to possibly make a small diorama, with the road bridge being slightly left of centre and perhaps the road being slightly more angled left to right One question is how far from the outside rail would the viaduct wall be Attachment: attach_3190_3828_New_St_Martins_St reet_EM.mecbox 80 Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Share and show> London Docks extension about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the ...
138. shiny rails
... track has been used for quite some while, which just adds to the puzzle of the apparently shiny finish. Regards Tony. I wonder if it's all a trick of the light and melted snow. Look at the right hand rail in the foreground, it isn't shiny at all, also the shine is coming from the transition from horizontal to vertical part of the rail. If it is traffic that has caused the shine why is it always the the right hand side that is shiny when some of those should be on the outside of the rail where a flange doesn't normally go? John from 33820 St Ciers posted: 7 Dec 2020 23:47 from: roythebus It's got to be a trick of the light. posted: 8 Dec 2020 04:44 from: Andrew Barrowman And also, where is it? France perhaps? posted: 8 Dec 2020 09:07 from: Tony W I did wonder if the effect was caused by a layer of frost catching the light. Looks cold enough. Regards Tony. posted: 8 Dec 2020 ...
... 2010 Track Design Handbook The above handbook (208 pages) is online here. Many thanks to David Laing for the link: http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/improvements/northern%20hub/the%20network%20rail%20hope%20valley%20capacity%20order/network%20rail%E2%80%99s%20statement%20of%20case%20%E2%80%93%20january%202016/nr40_track%20design%20handbook_nr-l2_trk_2049.pdf As far as I know the handbook hasn't been generally available outside the rail industry. Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Prototype pics> Network Rail 2010 Track Design Handbook about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to ...
... topic: 3831 Insert a straight in curved irregular diamond? posted: 8 Dec 2020 16:00 from: Julian Roberts Hi Martin As you saw on the Scalefour Forum, I'm making a curving irregular single slip for my Kyle project. http://www.scalefour.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f =5 &t =7028&start=25 You explained that the K crossings on a curving diamond have to be within limits, and at 1:7.5 I'm outside the limit in P4, though in S4 it might be OK. As I see it I've got three options :- 1 Ignore your warning and carry on regardless (I'm not getting any derailments on extensive testing of propelled vehicles, nor any other except a bit of hopping where wheels prove to have incorrect BB. However, it is possible to manually steer a vehicle the "wrong way", including a coach bogie) 2 Convert to switched K crossings- which is not realistic, as the photo shows 3. Redesign the crossing- the assembly is far from complete. ...
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