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... and the turnout-road crossing rail on the control template, with this result after a few seconds: 2_301120_060000003.png And zooming in you can see that despite the transitions and slews Templot has found the exact intersection point: 2_301120_060000004.png The notch could now be moved under it. The intersection angle is known and there will also be an option to insert a V-crossing or K-crossing of that angle at the intersection location if required. This will save quite a lot of faffing about, for example when creating custom type 2 tandem turnouts, or custom tandems on a transition curve -- the auto make tandem function isn't available for transitions or slews. And when working with partial templates generally. Just one thing holding me back -- if I leave the existing notch on intersection functions, it will be hard work explaining to beginners the difference between the two. And a whole lot of videos and screenshots will need re-doing. That's two things. I was quite pleased to get the function working, but now feeling weary at the amount of ...
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... and answering questions that I can. I consider myself reasonably experienced on Templot (but I'm always learning!) so should be able to help more. I'm not sure I can blame major upheaval last year as an excuse any more! Having said that, sometimes I feel that people asking the questions don't appear to be doing anything to help themselves- or if they are then they don't say so. For instance, and with no reference to any actual questions, someone may ask something like "I want a triple-tandem double-flanged track formation- how do I do it?" rather than "I want a triple-tandem double-flanged track formation. I read through the tutorials and got as far as xyz but I didn't understand what was meant by "confabulating the notch" and got a tandem-triple turnout instead- could someone please help me?" On other occasions, it's so obvious that the questioner hasn't attempted to understand even the absolute basics that I just know that I'll regret diving in to help. Having ...
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... topic: 2609 Bug in generating a transition? posted: 7 Jan 2015 23:16 from: Chris Copplestone Hi Martin, The attached screenshot shows the problem. I'm linking a siding to the first turnout of a tandem using the standard procedure with just geometry> track centre-lines only for generating a transition. However after clicking peg/ align tools> make transition curve from current template> try right-hand first, although I get the required transition, I also get, as well as the centre-line, the MS running rail? Clicking geometry shows that the template is now normal although there is no timbering or a TS running rail?. When I open the omit rails and joint marks... menu and tick to get the TS running rail, it is out of gauge? Note that I have tidied up the template by lengthening it to join it to the siding and shortening it to just join the turnout. Is this a bug or am I doing something not allowed? Regards Chris Attachment: attach_2034_2609_trackpad_screensh ot_2015_01_07_2327_55.png 374 ...
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... bends between two fixed points. Hello Stuart, Welcome to Templot Club and thanks for your kind words. swell curving is now on CTRL+ F10 -- read more about it here: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?swell_function_ctrl_f10.htm I don't make changes to the shortcuts lightly, but this one was forced by the introduction of the irregular diamonds. 1. Put the notch on the rail intersection for the middle vee in the usual way. I intentionally wrote that way to deter beginners from trying 3-way tandem turnouts until they are well-versed in Templot. Tandem turnouts are not simple -- it really would be better to leave them until later. At the very least please try a single slip first. If you watch the first few minutes of the transition-diamond video you will see how to put the fixing peg on a rail intersection. The video is at help> watch a video> Scruff Video Andrew transition diamond menu item. Note that for the tandem you need the peg on the rail-edge, ...
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... rail model. By default this increased double-slip clearance is on for 00/EM etc, but off for P4/S7 etc. This can be changed as required. It does of course reduce the slip road radius, which is why it applies only above 1:6.5. None of this is yet released so it is not too late to change it if you have further suggestions, but I'm hoping to get it released in the next few days. My biggest worry is that it will immediately spark calls for tandems, outside slips, scissors crossovers,... regards, Martin. posted: 27 Aug 2017 21:33 from: Martin Wynne FraserSmith wrote: I assume that the different constraints imposed by a 1:5 crossing requiring an outside slip will still mean I have to tackle that manually. HI Fraser, Thanks for your comments, and the link to your most recent message, which I seem to have missed originally. Sorry about that. I'm glad you eventually found a satisfactory alignment, and I can see why ...
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... would do the same job. Since templot needs the whole screen, having a video or help page open at the same time does not work well for me so I need the list on paper. I've heard there are many great functions in templot but since I can't find them when I need them, they are wasted. I've managed to turn snap off once, but I can never find how to do it when I need. I think the next template I will need is a three way turnout, and doing a tandem was bad enough. However, that will not be until next year and by then I will have to re-learn everything. Mike Johnson posted: 23 Aug 2010 16:28 from: Judi R This has been an interesting thread! I hadn't realised that chm files were problematic but I did know that Microsoft had withdrawn support for hlp files on their new OS versions. I have written help files for a couple of my own applications and my compiler creates a set of html files before compiling them (the chm ...
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... and replaced it with a tagging system. Tags are enclosed in square brackets and prefixed on the name labels. Being part of the name label means that the tags are saved in the .box file (unlike remembered groups): 2_011926_420000002.png This also makes them visible on the trackpad and easily edited manually if required. Normally however, tags will be added using the new group tagging functions: 2_011926_420000001.png and the functions for each template: 2_011926_410000000.png These new functions will be especially useful for formations created from multiple partial templates, for example a tandem turnout formation. If all those templates are grouped they can be quickly tagged for example "yard tandem". Then to recreate that group at any time would need only a click on "yard tandem" in the tags list sub-menu. In the next update. regards, Martin. posted: 2 Nov 2012 08:15 from: JFS THIS is what we wanted!!!- not tried it yet of course- but sounds just the ticket! Many thanks for this Martin, Howard. posted: ...
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128. Brimsdown
... Rob Manchester wrote: Andrew, As you may have seen by now the station is the double track at the bottom of the plan. The majority of the trackwork is staging for trains awaiting their run through the station area. Map is here( Tony- hope you don't mind me jumping in) Rob Hi Rob. Not at all. My reply this morning was short of necessity as I was due to go out for the day. If one draws a horizontal line across the plan just below the switch ends of the Tandem turnouts both sides, everything below this line is scenic and above is storage or fiddle yard. I have actually purchased a digital copy of that map from NLS and the file is enormous, but the detail is something else. The map I used for my background scan came from the OS 1965 survey at 1:1250 scale corroborated with an LNER 40ft plan I was lucky enough to obtain through the BR/ OPC collaboration back in the 1980s, which unfortunately didn't last that long. Regards Tony. Last edited on 14 ...
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... .png image. Just wondering if I'm not doing something right or if it's a bug. Cheers.. Alan Attachment: attach_2834_3435_richmond_to_catte rick_bridge_19_may_19.png 181 posted: 19 May 2019 10:06 from: Alan Kettlewell Templot v 2.19b Windows 10 posted: 19 May 2019 10:17 from: Phil O I found that a while ago, I just added standard turnout templates over the top whilst printing and then deleted them afterwards. I think it has been mentioned that the software can only handle full templates and not the partial templates required for tandem turnouts. Phil posted: 19 May 2019 11:56 from: Martin Wynne Phil O wrote: I found that a while ago, I just added standard turnout templates over the top whilst printing and then deleted them afterwards. I think it has been mentioned that the software can only handle full templates and not the partial templates required for tandem turnouts. Hi Alan, Phil, That's correct, but it applies only to diagram mode output. In normal detail mode all templates should appear in the output. In diagram mode ...
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... : Phil O wrote: Hi Phil, many thanks. But now i have a facing three-way point in the up main....not sure if thats typical. I think it was frowned on. my current layout is based on Freezers Minories and this new one is a slight enlargement of that. Hence i am avoiding run rounds in the platforms to encourgae mire shunting.Any thoughts on my transition curves in the mainline? Should i use transition whenever i join up templates?? I think if you made the turnout a tandem instead of a three way, that would be acceptable. Jim. posted: 19 Feb 2020 01:03 from: Nigel Brown Maybe you could tell us a bit more about what you see the layout depicting. Is it post-steam? Mixed steam/electric? Predominantly passenger or mixed passenger/goods? And so on. The one thing I wonder about is what happens to trains leaving the main terminus. They could end up in the smaller terminus of course. But otherwise, how do they get back ...
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... -heel switch is the most likely size, but they can vary a lot on the prototype. Normally the crossing angle isn't relevant because a set of catch points is only a switch, although a full turnout trap leading to a buffer stop or sand drag is possible. In which case it would likely be a short 1:5 or 1:6 turnout or similar. p.s. no doubt it is a work in progress, but you may not have noticed that there are a couple of check rails missing in your tandem: 2_151712_420000000.png cheers, Martin. posted: 15 Jul 2018 23:13 from: ScottW Thanks, Martin the video is a great help. Yes, I need to get round to finishing off the tandem. As well as altering the check rails on the tandem I need to adjust the timbers on the facing turnout leading into the loop. Another question has just come into my head, would there have been any requirement for another catch point at the station end of the run round loop (left hand end of the ...
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... knowledge of the program. Alas, having not used Templot for a couple years other than to print out the odd template, I find myself back in the land of "the beginner" once again! Previously, I had tackled (with Martin's help) to work out turnouts designs for On30 and 7mm scale dual gauge Broad& Standard turnouts and crossings, and these involved a fair amount of editing. However, Templot 2 v2.25d and the imminent release of Templot 3, the program now includes options for 3-ways, tandems and slips that were not there before. I used to have to alter turnouts adding half crossings etc, then adjust rails and check rails, switchblade lengths and so on, ending with a jigsaw of frogs& box files etc with a collection of shoved and altered timbers. Now I find the options to adjust check rails and shove timbers, but cannot find how to adjust or omit the heel and switch of an overlapped template and retain the frog and check rails. Can any one help to find these tools and options ...
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... topic: 3644 outside slips posted: 27 Apr 2020 01:51 from: Martin Wynne Mike's request for an outside slip set me thinking about them again. With the tandems now automated (at least for the basic designs), outside slips are next on the list to be made a bit easier. So I have been testing 2 new fixing peg positions, OSXP and OSMP. Yes really, even more of them. These 2 make it a lot easier than previous methods to get an outside slip road aligned and to establish the V-crossing angles and positions. At least for a regular diamond-crossing. I have made a bit of video to explain them: http://flashbackconnect.com/Default.aspx?id=3o4-PiKKPVaAXZsePJOwSA2 Will be in the next program update, but not for a while because there are several other unfinished loose ends I have to deal with. This now makes it possible to think about a full tools> make outside-slip function, but there's still quite a long way to go in automating the ...
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... work on a standard switch before I even work up to this. I can shave just under a foot off each side I think. And for some reason the bottom right track hasn't been rendered. 3662_291327_350000000.png posted: 29 Apr 2020 20:06 from: Martin Wynne Hi Andrew, Welcome to Templot Club. Thanks for posting your plan. The diamonds shouldn't be too much trouble. But you have drawn a 3-throw turnout. Unless you are an experienced track builder, I strongly recommend that you change that to a tandem turnout. For some explanation, see: http://templot.com/companion/3_way_tandem_turnouts.php If you attach your .box file here, we can have a closer look. cheers, Martin. posted: 30 Apr 2020 10:22 from: Andrew Jones Thank you for your help Martin. I have reworked the three way, but has issues making the entry switch into a wye, which I'll try to fix tonight. The tandem single sided turnout looks much nicer anyway, so thank you for that. I'll upload my ...
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... posted: 25 Jan 2011 11:26 from: mike47j At the LDCR/SECR Greenwich Park station, there were 2 platforms with an engine release road between them also leading to a pit. So 2 crossovers on top of each other, to make a 3-way in the middle. I read the thread "3 -throw turnout for Richard Lambert" but it does not really help. So before I start are there any good tips for drawing and making a 3-way? I presume I can follow the tandem video for most of this, but one immediate question is how to get the staggered toes? Mike Johnson Attachment: attach_972_1352_three_way.box 359 posted: 25 Jan 2011 12:19 from: Martin Wynne mike47j wrote: At the LDCR/SECR Greenwich Park station, there were 2 platforms with an engine release road between them also leading to a pit. So 2 crossovers on top of each other, to make a 3-way in the middle. Hi Mike, Richard Lambert's excellent topic on Old RMweb covers the building of an ...
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... prototype turnouts as short as these would only ever be found in cramped yards and sidings, not on running lines. Your challenge now is to do it all again, but this time on a through curve. Keep an eye on the radii when curving turnouts, you may very likely need to use longer ones on a curve. p.s. don't bother with the slip video, it's all out-of-date. What you do now is click tools> make slip and Templot does it for you. Likewise for the tandems. cheers, Martin. posted: 12 Nov 2019 03:44 from: Graeme Martin Wynne wrote: Well done Graeme. However- "to fit to mostly Peco 1st radius curves". Those are model tracks. We don't talk like that here..... I've no idea what size a Peco 1st radius is, or what scale it applies to. But most likely it is around 600mm radius, and you are working at 4mm/ft. So what you should have said is that you were ...
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... -bottom turnouts and the curves eased, as I've been unable to obtain these plans. The main part of the layout will fit in the garage, with the fiddle yards out in the garden. I'll not post the fiddle yards yet, as I'm not really happy with them- they need to slew past three water butts, and one line can "tunnel" through some camellia foliage. The plan attached is from an overlay supplied by GMCRO, but the terms of use don't allow me to post it. Interestingly the tandems at the end of the platforms don't allow for large locomotives to run round (I've allowed space for a class 25), and the 3 lines are to standard rail centres. I've based my checkrails on a min of 8 chains, as 10 chains meant check rails everywhere- which looking at pictures of Manchester Central was pretty much the case (although pictures of lower numbered platforms are hard to come by, esp. in bullhead times.) I'm not overly happy with the timbering in the areas where the formation is ...
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... . Hi Philip, The original 20-year-old page is here: http://templot.com/martweb/gs_geometry.htm#peg_positions However, everything is up in the air at present. I have removed most of the old Templot Companion as an incentive to make me get it all updated. While it is still on there I never will. I'm hoping to re-vamp the whole web site in the New Year, but first I have to get the next program update released. It contains some updated stuff for tandems. It needs to be released so that the tandem video makes sense. regards, Martin. posted: 28 Dec 2017 19:52 from: Philip Griffiths Thanks. I was trying to remember what the PEG position was the branch road centre, so that I could try and put a piece of track on it. I have managed to create the diamond. posted: 28 Dec 2017 23:45 from: Philip Griffiths Hello Martin, following your advice about creating the irregular diamond, the crossing is 1:505 ...
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... topic: 3171 wrong gauge shown on info posted: 4 Jan 2018 20:07 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, I have a Start.box file which gets loaded each time I start Templot and it puts me into EM gauge as that is what I most commonly use. However I noticed when trying out the new tandem coding( brilliant!) that the info panel reports EM gauge at the top and then further down it says "Nominal Gauge T-55 1.000" 5.5mm:ft". Should that be in there? Info panel attached. Rob Attachment: attach_2609_3171_Info_Panel_2.pdf 249 posted: 4 Jan 2018 20:28 from: Rob Manchester ps Martin, I wasn't suggesting any connection with the Tandem function! Rob posted: 4 Jan 2018 22:49 from: Martin Wynne Hi Rob, Thanks for reporting that. It is obviously a bug, so I have moved this topic to the "I found a flaw" section. After loading this file, which menu item is showing a bullet mark on the gauge menu? Which gauge is ...
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... Brown Never thought about it before but how do P*c* get the frogs on a 3-way aligned? Is the left-hand road sharper than the right-hand road? posted: 27 Sep 2017 19:05 from: Tony W Nigel Brown wrote: Never thought about it before but how do P*c* get the frogs on a 3-way aligned? Is the left-hand road sharper than the right-hand road? Hi Nigel. It depends on the formation. With a Tandem Turnout, the two base turnouts will need to be somewhat different in order for the two far crossings to have their nose on the same A timber and allow the first set of switches enough distance to clear the second set of switches. There will be a limited number of combinations where this is possible. For a Three Throw Turnout, where the switch blades coincide, both base Turnouts will be the same just of opposite hand. Regards. Tony. posted: 20 Nov 2017 14:54 from: Cornelis de Groot ...
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