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161. Outside Slip Help
... topic: 3533 Outside Slip Help posted: 25 Oct 2019 09:19 from: Alan Kettlewell Hello, A bit of help would be appreciated with this outside slip I'm making. I'm having difficulty getting the two switch exit roads to align- instead I'm getting doubling of the rails. A template is attached. Grateful for any advice please as toy where I'm going wrong. Many thanks. Alan Attachment: attach_2932_3533_Outside_Slip_AK.b ox 142 posted: 25 Oct 2019 13:13 from: Tony W Hi Alan. The short answer is that you have two turnouts curved to very different radii. Without knowing how critical the alignment of the approach tracks are, it is difficult to say what is the best way to proceed. However the usual approach with outside slips is to align the two turnouts albeit mirror image to each other first and then add the diamond afterwards. Regards Tony. posted: 25 Oct 2019 14:32 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, Outside slips are not straightforward, as you found. Tony's method usually works for regular diamonds, but ...
162. Export PDF
... topic: 3496 Export PDF posted: 3 Sep 2019 15:51 from: Terry Schroeyens Hi Martin, Sorry if this has been reported before but there is a misalignment across PDF pages. The attached shows a crossover where the TS tracks don't align but the MS ones do??? The box file is fine. The PDF is for the control template. Attachment: attach_2888_3496_up_final_crossove r.pdf 129 posted: 3 Sep 2019 16:02 from: wcampbell23 Hi Terry You have not taken the trim margins into account. If you were to print this out and then trim each page to the purple trim margins, you would find everything in alignment. If you wish printed copies of your plan it is better to calibrate your printer and then use the printed output option. Regards. Bill Campbell. Last edited on 3 Sep 2019 16:04 by wcampbell23 posted: 3 Sep 2019 16:05 from: Martin Wynne Terry Schroeyens wrote: Sorry if this has been reported before but there is a misalignment across PDF pages. The attached shows a crossover where ...
... davelong Here are the templot box file and the planning portal background image. Attachment: attach_517_763_p4_stechford_09_03 _13_0917_04.box 514 15 Mar 2009 13:10 from: davelong Here is the ngs file with the pp image. Is there a reason that at certain points zooming in on the templates that the background image distorts or disappears altogether? Only had it happen with this large image. Could it be a file size issue? Anyway the bgs and box should match up. There are still a few errors in there, the main crossover isn't correctly aligned to nearby track. I've found it difficult to match the pp image the templates correctly. Would the pp images be that accurate anyway for the main track outlines? Kind regards Dave Attachment: attach_518_763_p4_stechford_09_03 _12_2315_53.bgs 468 Last edited on 15 Mar 2009 13:14 by davelong posted: 15 Mar 2009 19:26 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, You need to upload the map .bmp file in addition to the .bgs file. It's likely to be a large file, so please zip it if possible. The upload limit here ...
... topic: 358 Industrial turnouts and Templot posted: 10 Mar 2008 03:40 from: Edward I'd appreciate any pointers in helping me fit a templot template onto the ringed turnout in the attached image from an early OS map. My attempt -copied at the end of this post- has managed to align with the entry and exit tracks but has a toe-to-heel length in 4mm/ft of 290mm. I should say that the original trackplan is a series of harbour lines (5'3" gauge or 21mm in 4mm/ft) with short loose-heel inset turnounts and sharp curves but my turnout design is more akin to the graceful lines of main-line practice. I have tried a customised turnout but I still cannot get a shorter turnout that matches the geometry. I'm assuming that in the OS map the line across the track in the approach to the turnout is the tie-bar? (BTW the lower left-hand corner of the map is at (1800mm,0mm) Thanks Edward 21 no-name [ ...
... mill and give adequate clearance in the Z direction. Or you can make up an adjustable protractor using two bits of strip hinged by one bolt. Then you can set the angle between the strips the same way as the crossing angles are calculated- e.g. six inches along and one inch up for a 1 in 6 RAM. Once you've set the angle and tightened the bolt to hold it, for an angle in the horizontal plane, use the edge of your milling table as reference for one leg of the protractor and align the metal you are cutting with the other leg. For the vertical plane, just place the protractor upright on the table and align the workpiece to match it. This is not super accurate, but should be accurate enough for model railway crossing angles. Your milling machine is quite lightweight but should do useful work if you take it easy. My milling machine has a one horse motor and would be quite a good boat anchor, but I bet Martin and Brian would still reckon it a bit titchy. Jim. posted ...
... : 29 Jan 2018 17:47 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, On the storage box. box> show cumulative box data menu item. regards, Martin. posted: 29 Jan 2018 17:54 from: madscientist thanks martin, theres always one more menu item to find posted: 29 Jan 2018 19:22 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: PS: I know I can Split templates, why can't I join templates? Hi Dave, Templates could only be joined if they shared a common radius/curving alignment. In which case you don't need to join them, because instead you can: 1. extend the first template to the far end of the second template: peg/align tools> extend/shorten the control template to meet at> menu items. 2. delete the second template. If they don't share a common alignment, or more than one of them is a turnout template, they can't be joined because Templot has no mechanism to draw such a combined template. I have no plans to create such a ...
... separation on a double-track Hi Richard, Now that you've given me all the information (no-one ever does this first time), I can have a go at helping you: slewed_transition.png To minimize disruption to the ruling curves, ideally both tracks should be adjusted. But for this exercise I left the outer curve fixed and modified only the inner one. It's necessary to combine a transition curve and a slew together. The transition curve changes the radius as required, and the slew then shifts the radial centres into alignment. A certain amount of trial and error is needed for a perfect result. Starting from the inner platform curve, I first transitioned out to the radius of the inner double-track (at 78.17mm centres -- this may need widening on sharp curves): length along the initial radius= 1000.0 (at the track centre-line) initial radius at the track centre-line= 2671.67 final radius at the track centre-line= 2872.83(= 2951-78.17) I initially set the transition zone length to ...
... topic: 653 Timber numbering and print rows posted: 4 Dec 2008 01:59 from: Gordon S Hi Martin/guys, couple of questions on timber numbering. When do they change? I sent of a dfx file for printing and got the print back today. I needed to align the new plan with parts of an earlier one, so printed a small section of the plan from the box file, which aligned with a specific point in the room. When I went to align this with the new dfx print, I noticed the timber numbers had changed. I don't think I have changed anything in the original box file so was a little surprised to see the timber numbers were different in the dfx file. Perhaps I did change something and can't recall it, but would be interested to understand the logic. Also wanted to see timber numbers on the screen, so went to pad, pad options, show timber numbers and the egg cup came up but nothing appears to have changed on the screen. Any ideas? One other ...
... : 632 Crossover on diverging tracks posted: 16 Nov 2008 22:52 from: Paul Boyd The attached JPEG shows parallel tracks coming in from the LHS. They start diverging at about the 5.5ft mark. I've created a crossover after the divergion point (is that a word??) by a lot of adjusting of crossing angles and roaming until the two turnouts involved line up closely enough for track building. Both turnouts have a curviform crossing. The question is though, how should I have done it so that the turnouts align correctly without all the trial and error faffing about, based on the positions of the diverging tracks being fixed? (I know the timbering is wrong- I haven't started shoving yet!) Attachment: attach_414_632_diverging_crossover .jpg 302 posted: 17 Nov 2008 01:49 from: Richard Spratt Isn't it like turnout 7 in the first tutorial? http://www.templot.com/martweb/tut5a.htm Richard posted: 17 Nov 2008 02:10 from: Paul Boyd Hi Richard Not really, because in that tutorial the turnout is placed, ...
... sheet). Hi Richard, Is this related to your previous topic at: topic 3373 We need a bit more information, otherwise my reply will turn into a long ramble of ifs and buts. Which maps and date? Are you on Windows or Wine/CrossOver/Linux? Does the map need rotating to get a better fit on the screen? What model gauge and scale? The old OS County Series map sheets predate the invention of the OS Grid in 1936. They use a different map projection, and don't align properly with each other on the sheet edges. For the Georeferenced slippy maps the NLS resample the scans on the global georeferencing scheme. In the process some straight lines become gently curved, some gently curved lines become straight, and the whole map is rotated slightly. These effects become more noticeable as you move a long way from the OS datum in the middle of the UK. For the "Find by place" maps the NLS publish the original single sheet scans unmodified. The basic process is simple: 0. set ...
... with the sleepers on the main road. But this method meant that I had two templates for every turnout and I moved on to creating a template with the interlaced diverging route sleepers so that all sleepering detail was on one template. I didn't have too much problems getting the sleepers at right angles to the route centre line but I could have laid a guide using a length of plain track as in my first designs. Jim. posted: 17 Mar 2016 11:52 from: John Palmer A neat trick to get the alignment right! Thanks, Jim. posted: 20 Mar 2016 13:32 from: mikewturner Hi Jim Thanks for checking that measurement and you too John for your measurements at Rannock, did yu take any photos of the latter you could share? Looking at the NERA drawings it would appear the Scottish companies were not the only ones to have 'flared ends curved' as Jim calls them, these show the centre section of the checkrail being parallel to the stock rails, a section either side of this flared at maybe 1: ...
172. Barry slip
... Barry slip posted: 18 Mar 2019 17:25 from: Keith Newton Can Templot change a Double Slip into a Barry slip? posted: 18 Mar 2019 19:58 from: Martin Wynne Keith Newton wrote: Can Templot change a Double Slip into a Barry slip? Hi Keith, Do you mean you want to model a prototype double slip which has been rationalised to a Barry slip? Or do you simply want to create a Barry slip from scratch? In that case there is no requirement for the diverging roads to align, as in a double slip. There are some instructions here and subsequent posts: topic 1356- message 8400 cheers, Martin. posted: 18 Mar 2019 20:33 from: Keith Newton Hello Martin I had already included a double slip in my Templot plan and have been told now that for prototypical operation I only need the slips and one way crossing. hence I wondered if I could convert to a Barry slip easily, or do I need to start from scratch? posted: 18 Mar 2019 20:49 ...
... Hi Alex, There are no fixed rules. Beginners in Templot tend to go for the brick-by-brick approach, possibly using the F7 snapping function to "clip" individual templates together, in a similar manner to other track-planning programs. This method is simple and quick, but it can produce a disjointed "train-set" look if you are not careful. More experienced users prefer to lay out the broad sweep of the running lines first, and then insert the turnout templates in them (or align the templates over them). This is the classic way to use Templot and the most likely to produce a prototypical sweeping feel to pointwork. Or you can use whatever mixture of methods suits your own way of thinking and working. There are always several different ways to arrive at a similar result. This video shows some of the basic track planning functions in Templot: starter video regards, Martin. posted: 16 Sep 2008 22:51 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alex, I have just noticed that you have posted ...
... . More info: http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.html If you are looking for a function which will automatically correct mismatches, I'm afraid there isn't one. There is no way Templot can know which of the many adjustments is the one you require, or how it would impact on the adjacent templates. If you work methodically, you shouldn't get any mismatches. That means extending and splitting templates, inserting turnouts in them, using the tools menu functions. Even if you use F7 snapping, the templates should normally align themselves without mismatches. If you just grab and copy templates at random and try to align them by eye, some mismatches are inevitable and there is no way Templot can fix them for you. If you post a screenshot of a specific mismatch, I will try to suggest how it could have been avoided. regards, Martin. posted: 19 May 2017 14:46 from: Stephen Freeman Hi, Thanks for the info about the delete key, never thought of that one. I had looked briefly at the function ...
... Westerham Valley posted: 22 Dec 2009 15:06 from: Trevor Grout I have been toiling away with this paln for some time now, and I am having some slight problems! Can anyone help me please? 1, Plain Track. when I extend the length of plain track, i keep getting an extra sleeper under the rail joint, I can get rid of it by timber shoving, but would like for this not to happen. 2. The back siding. This is causing me some issues, namely with alignment to the plan, now the plan is a really poor copy from an a4 sheet of paper scanned in, I do have 40ft plans but again these were only copies of copies, so I cannot vouch for the accuracy of them in the firstplace. 3. Timber Shoving. I am really struggeling to get this right, I have attempted this so many times over the past weeks, I just cannot seem to get it right. 4. Printing. The age old problem, I can get it to print to ...
... far as I know Exactoscale do not supply any computer software, so the question of compatible file formats does not apply. Users of Exactoscale track products usually need a printed track template on which to build them. Exactoscale supply a limited range of straight templates in P4 only, but for other gauges, curved turnouts and complex formations many users print a template from Templot instead. You can print directly from Templot if you have a printer connected to your system. A track plan would typically comprise several pages, which are printed with alignment and trim marks. Alternatively you can export a PDF file from Templot which can then be printed on any system. More specifically, you can export a PDF track plan as a single page several feet long, which can be taken or sent to a digital copyshop and printed in one piece on a wide-format roll-paper printer. You can do the same thing with exported DXF files from Templot for a CAD printshop dealing with engineering drawings. cheers, Martin. posted: 26 Oct 2018 15:49 from ...
... on the fly, in skeleton diamond-crossing form. That way it matches into any existing curving and crossing angles. This one here might be a 1:7 double-slip on 12ft radius and that one there might be a 1:7.5 double-slip on 14ft radius. When you want a double-slip, use the tools> make diamond-crossing or tools> make ladder crossover menu functions, and carry on with the design. That gets you the basic diamond-crossing, all nicely curved and aligned, with just a couple of clicks. Then carry on with F4 to extend the tracks, split them off, insert another turnout, whatever. Then at a later date, preferably when you are sure that you aren't going to change the design, you can come back to the diamond-crossing, add in the slip roads, and print out the double-slip construction template -- unique to this specific location in the track plan. Of course, if you prefer to copy or use an existing double- ...
178. Scissors crossovers
... in the middle diamond will also be straight. The basic procedure to create an outline scissors crossover, in curved or straight track, is: 1. start with a turnout of the required V-crossing angle, regular, and TS track spacing centres. 2. tools> make ordinary crossover 3. do> snap to peg 4. tools> make mirror on peg 5. tools> make ordinary crossover 6. store& background That works starting with a straight or curved turnout, and gets you all the essential rail alignments. If you start with an ordinary turnout the above procedure will most likely give you a type 1 scissors, with the V-crossings for the diamond in the turnout curves. However, it is generally easier to create a type 2 scissors, with the V-crossings for the diamond in extended crossing entry-straight* sections on the turnouts. To do that, start by extending the entry-straight on the first turnout (SHIFT+ F11 mouse action -- keep an eye on the turnout radius and increase ...
179. Make Diamond Problem
... but not too much. I still don't know why those curves and angles created a problem, but the above change eliminates it, and creates the expected diamond-crossing first time. In the next program update, after I have done a lot more testing. This change will also be useful when fitting a turnout to an existing branch curve. I will look at making that a new function, if I can sort out a user interface for it. At present it's a bit clunky and doesn't always work (peg/align tools> put notch on intersection with control template). cheers, Martin. posted: 18 May 2020 16:08 from: Paul Boyd Hi Martin, I have modified the make diamond-crossing at intersection function to create a much more precise fit to the starting curves. It takes a little longer to run, but not too much. Just last night I created a slip starting from the make diamond-crossing at intersection function, with both routes around 3m radius (both the same radius). When extending ...
... hand side of the track diagram. Cheers Rich Attachment: attach_2269_2872_160416-Marsh_Lane_Yard_Ver3.box 303 posted: 1 May 2016 14:24 from: Martin Wynne RK wrote: c) Could you point me in the right direction towards a tutorial or instructions for creating the diamond-crossing on the attached file, given that both lines are curving in opposite directions? It's on the left hand side of the track diagram. Hi Rich, That's the easy one. Starting from your posted file, click on the background template and then peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at intersection menu item. In this particular case Templot finds the wrong intersection first. Click the try other intersection option. Then afterwards use F4 mouse action to extend the template into the gap. As you can see, Templot doesn't do everything: 2_010937_130000000.png You now need to shorten the original background template from under the diamond. And because the diamond is so short, there is quite a bit of timber shoving needed to tidy it up. For which ideally you would have a drawing for ...
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