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161. Crossover timbering
... topic: 3235 Crossover timbering posted: 10 Mar 2018 14:09 from: DerekStuart Afternoon all, Much has been written across the internet about timbering crossovers, but I cannot find the answer to this. So apologies if I've missed it. Is it ever permissible to shorten a timber outside the running rail? It can't even be one super-long timber as they don't line up anyway. One person has suggested this is possible and that the two timbers that had been cut like this would be secured together in the same way as when making one long timber out of two smaller ones. But I am not 100% certain he's right. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks posted: 10 Mar 2018 14:45 from: Martin Wynne Hi Derek, Which rail? How close to the chair do you want to cut it? If you mean cutting a timber very close to a chair, this would be frowned on in a running line rail. For a rail which is part of the crossover road, rather than the running line ...
... have to admit I haven't tried running two instances of Templot from Onedrive at the same time. It might be interesting to try some day to find out if there are problems. Jim. Last edited on 13 Mar 2019 17:18 by Jim Guthrie posted: 13 Mar 2019 17:29 from: Paul Boyd I do exactly the same as Jim, albeit with Google Drive. It just works. Running two instances from the same folder did nasty things, although I can't remember what exactly, but doing that is well outside Templot's remit! Paul posted: 14 Mar 2019 20:46 from: Dave Hunt Thanks everyone for the information. I must say that now I am beginning to get some idea of what Templot can do I am very impressed with it. There's still a long way to go before I can claim to be at all competent with it but I live in hope.... Dave Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums ...
163. Information Panel
... topic: 3378 Information Panel posted: 26 Jan 2019 17:40 from: Ian Bunch Running 2.19b on a Mac under Wine. Sometimes I use Templot over two monitors. Since installing on my new iMac Templot always puts the information panel outside of the main window so i'm unable to grab the header bar to move it. As you can see from the attached screenshot I can only get to click and drag/resize, not move it. I only really use it for min curve warnings and turnout size and there are other ways of getting this info. I just would like to have my little window top left, where I've always put it. Annoying more than anything but any ideas how to fix gratefully received Ian Attachment: attach_2798_3378_Screenshot_2019-01-26_at_17.32.18.png 167 posted: 26 Jan 2019 20:09 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian, Just to clarify, are you saying that Templot starts up like this if you restart the Mac, Wine, and Templot from scratch? What happens if you restart all from scratch with only one monitor ...
... layouts. See http://www.morop.org/index.php/de/nem-normen.html Downloadable pdf from this page: NEM 962 F Anlagen-Module Nenngröße 0- CDZ Thanks Roger. But that just tips me into the mass of conflicting dimensions which I remember when originally compiling the gauge list for non-UK gauges. The 95mm dimension appears to apply for modular layouts only. However, modular layouts using finescale handbuilt track are all but unknown to me -- I don't think I have ever seen one. For straight track outside stations the spacing is given as 89mm centres which is presumably rounded from prototype 4-metre centres at 1:45, from NEM 112: 2_021421_470000000.png For curves a range of dimensions is given, for vehicle groups A, B, C: 2_021424_270000000.png No-one sensibly builds 0 gauge below about 1400mm (4ft-6in) radius for running lines, except perhaps for industrial layouts -- and there double-track would be unusual. All this stuff seems more applicable to AnyRail than Templot -- I would much prefer ...
... . These are all fiddle yard boards. The scenic ones will be done differently. To generate a cutting list for each curved board, I print out each board scaled to fit one sheet of A4 paper as centre lines only. The lengths of the various members are worked out from the template lengths displayed in the information panel (when selected as control) or press the F4 key to display it. One just has to remember to allow for the thickness of the material in the right places. I write the full length outside the line and the required length inside whether different or not. The angles for the blocks on the curved boards are calculated by selecting the particular template centre line and moving the Peg to one end or the other of other as appropriate, note the peg angle. (Displayed toward the bottom of the list) Then select the one it joins up to and do the same. The angle of the join will be the difference between the two. You may occasionally have to add or subtract either 90 or 180 degrees to ...
166. Changes in 218d
... and b. you zoom out further than the rectangle. If you zoom inside the rectangle you won't see any difference from using the rectangle, it should be faster than before regardless. But only for large track plans. If you have a high-end fast system, the improvement may be only minor. It is definitely making a difference here. cheers, Martin. yes, I did all that, interestingly, since I have long templates, the bounding rectangle, only removes a certain number of templates that fall completely outside the rectangle I dont really notice any improvements, lag on scrolling still remains an issue, but only if I attempt to scroll too fast.( 2.7Ghx 4 core i5, 16 GB ram, running native windows 7 in Parallels under OSX !! !, 27-inch (2560 x 1440) AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512Mb video ram) thanks again dave Last edited on 12 Feb 2018 23:52 by madscientist posted: 13 Feb 2018 00:03 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, If you are using Parallels ...
... I notice some differences between the map and your plan: 2_270839_160000002.png At A the alignment and switch positions differ. At B the original curving is sharper than your design. I used the georeferenced version of the map. Did you use a different version of the map, or maybe the original single sheet version? Georeferencing does change the curvature. Or maybe some other railway map or track plan? Or are the differences intentional? You referred to a tandem turnout, but I'm not really seeing that. What I'm seeing is an outside slip. It doesn't necessarily make any difference to the final result, but it might change the approach to creating the design. cheers, Martin. posted: 27 Mar 2019 14:37 from: Geoff Lines Martin Wynne wrote: Hi Geoff, Many thanks for the file. I can't imagine how long it took to create all that -- I hope you have kept good backups. There is an option to keep them here if you wish, see: http://85a.co.uk/forum/view_category.php?id ...
168. Templot performance
... . This change will be in the next program update 218d shortly now available. It will be interesting to have some feedback on this for different systems, processors and screen sizes. Separately from that, I have added yet another menu option, to improve the response when working on large track plans. Often in such cases all the current design work is taking place in a small area, despite the plan being much larger overall. I thought it would be helpful to be able to tell Templot to ignore temporarily all background templates outside a specified rectangle. This doesn't make any difference when working zoomed in to that rectangle of course, but if you happen accidentally to zoom out too far on a large plan, it can take a while for Templot to catch up with the Windows message queue and let you zoom back in. If it's not having to draw all the templates, that is possible much sooner. We already have a mechanism to draw such a rectangle on the trackpad, and adjust it by mouse actions. It's the output boundary rectangle for ...
... topic: 3439 Lewes Station early 1900's posted: 26 May 2019 10:49 from: roythebus Found this interestin pic of Lewes on a Facebook group. There's a nice tandem with outside slip. Attachment: attach_2836_3439_60385037_10156412 328496909_7235413923883646976_n.jp g 229 Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Prototype pics> Lewes Station early 1900's about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web site are copyright and the property of the respective contributor. You are welcome to use them for your own personal non-commercial purposes, and in your messages on this web site. If you want to publish any of this material elsewhere or use it commercially, you must first obtain the owner's permission to do so. The small ...
... it will start playing.) For a prototype map what you do need is enough understanding of prototype track to interpret the map. Unless it is a large scale track plan from the railway company, it is likely to have been drawn by an OS surveyor on the ground rather than a permanent-way engineer in the design office. So for example it is likely to have the switch toe position marked (blade tips) and the crossing nose position, rather than the rail joints, and for some complex formations such as outside slips and tandem turnouts, quite often the surveyor gets the rails a bit muddled. This topic discusses determining turnout sizes from a map: topic 3095- message 22216 topic 3095- message 22326 For some notes about matching the radius of a template to a background map or other guide, see: http://templot.com/companion/swell_function_ctrl_f10.php You may also find the wrap function relevant: http://templot.com/companion/wrap_picture_shape_to_curve.php The original topic about the automated background maps function is here: topic 3051 The relevant ...
... ready to lay P4 as I just read the latest post from your tie-in with Shapeways. Good luck with your project, shows what can be done with the right mind set. If Peco beat you to it I hope they remembered to change the geometry this time Snow, hail and wind here. Gather you have had snow round your parts again near you again. Rob posted: 17 Jan 2018 01:49 from: Andrew Barrowman Rob, Not too bad here in the Pacific Northwet at the moment. 3C outside and the snow from last week is melting. But I better not disrupt this thread any more than I have already Andy posted: 17 Jan 2018 23:36 from: Tony W Martin Wynne wrote: Rob Manchester wrote: downloaders of Templot become regular users and where their knowledge level is regarding prototype trackwork. Hi Rob, Right on cue to answer your question, an intending Templot user has just asked on RMweb: "Can anyone suggest for a main line (my layout will either be WCML or ECML 1980s based ...
... Attachment: attach_2885_3491_slew.box 114 posted: 19 Aug 2019 17:45 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, The problem with the transition isn't that the radii are too similar, the problem is that they are both on the same centres. Is this any good? You didn't say how far round the curve you wanted to go on the right, so this is just my guess: 2_191229_460000000.png 2_191229_470000001.png Box file below. Manually create a transition having the required radii change over a suitable length. Add a slew that starts and ends just outside the transition zone. Peg it onto the outer curve on the right. Adjust the slew amount (CTRL+ F7) until it is nicely over the bottom template at the end of the slewing zone. Put the peg on the end of the slewing zone position. Make split at peg to leave a short bit of plain curve. Cancel the slew in it. Recreate the bottom transition curve from it. Check running clearances on the right. You could extend the template to replace the fixed curve top right if you ...
... topic: 3500 Bug Warning: printing bug in 223c posted: 11 Sep 2019 02:31 from: Martin Wynne There is a serious bug in the latest version 223c. When printing the control template, the timber infill is escaping across the page outside the timber outlines. This could waste a lot of ink, and obscure other parts of the template. I'm a bit surprised that no-one has mentioned it? Perhaps not many folks use Templot to print single one-off templates these days? Fortunately it doesn't apply to track plans/ background templates, nor to PDF or other outputs. It's only when direct printing the control template (F11). It was caused by yours truly when messing about with the experimental 3D chairing. Sorry about that. I will get it fixed in the next program update as soon as possible. I had intended to wait a while before releasing the next update, but this bug needs urgent fixing. cheers, Martin. posted: 11 Sep 2019 16:36 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, ...
174. Awrhyllgwami Quarry
... radius is 48". Hi Richard, I don't see the problem? Switched K-crossings make a slip 10 times easier to build (no K-crossing check rails), especially in a fiddle yard where you don't have to match any prototype appearance. You just need to fork out for 2 extra point motors. Unless I'm missing something, your design looks fine? I have quickly added the double slip roads for you. I staggered the slip switches to make it easier to create an opening clearance for them. Outside slip switches are 1:40. Inside slip switches are 1:32. Group .box file attached. regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_2355_2947_group_2016_12_13 _0115_28.box 251 posted: 13 Dec 2016 11:24 from: Tony W Hi Richard. Your plan also looks fine to me. I have built several switched diamonds over the years and as Martin has stated found them easier to build than fixed obtuse crossings, as there are fewer rails to align in that critical area. I think you are being overly concerned. It is possible ...
... topic: 3148 Rotating NLS maps in Templot posted: 5 Dec 2017 21:56 from: r_wilton I've been trying to load a background image from the NLS from within Templot. It all works as expected except for some reason i can't rotate the map using shift alt buttons with the mouse.If i go directly to the NLS website outside of Templot the rotate function works fine. Am i doing something wrong or is the rotate function not available in Templot? Regards Ray. posted: 5 Dec 2017 22:19 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ray, The embedded browser in Templot is a version of Internet Explorer provided by Windows for embedding. Templot has no control over the way it works. Unfortunately some of the NLS web functions don't work on there. You have 2 options: 1. rotate the map in your usual browser and make your own screenshot. There is a function on the background shapes dialog at help> calculate size of a map screenshot menu item to obtain the required size for the picture shape. or 2. make a screenshot ...
... , the radius at 1:2.75 is down to a mere 3". You could get it shorter, or an easier angle for the same length, by reducing the track centre-to-centre spacing. But that may not leave a running clearance for your trains. It would be best if you can go back to the beginning and explain what you are trying to do. Perhaps you could post your .box file here, or maybe some photos of your models. Templot can do all this, but it is outside the range of most users. regards, Martin. posted: 10 Dec 2017 14:17 from: Z Gauge Tim Hi Martin and Andrew, you are probably right- I plan to run a large loco. I have increased the length to 120 mm and angle to 3, but I guess it's not enough. I am building a small Z gauge layout, the space is limited, so I have decided to use smaller turnouts, but it looks like they are not going to work. I will build a ...
177. Templot Live
... for documentation Dave Last edited on 11 Nov 2017 12:00 by madscientist posted: 11 Nov 2017 12:25 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: If you are looking for" screen time" I would( humbly) suggest that a updated series of videos, on issues like tandems, and other more esoteric things are a better application of your time Hi Dave, Yes, I'm aware of that. Unfortunately producing smooth-running videos takes up days and weeks of my time. I do like to have a life outside of Templot. The live sessions were intended to be a stopgap until better videos are available. Also I'm getting a bit fed up with the constant request for help with tandem turnouts from folks who haven't yet got to grips with the basics of Templot. A viable tandem turnout is at the top end of track design. I have posted some guidance notes for tandems, see: topic 2394- message 16119 I will make a new tandem video, but not yet. My priority is to progress the Templot Explained beginners section ...
... I would imagine that it was a real pain to maintain and that's why they did away with it. Hi Phil, On that argument they could have done away with the steam locomotives and gone over to DMUs. Martin. Hi Martin Having relaid a plain diamond and fettled a second, I can safely say that they are bad enough, I for one would not like to fettle that formation very often. Using DMUs may only increase the time between maintenance periods and I doubt whether they could get a replacement lump for the outside slip if that was worn. As a piece of trackwork I do admit, it does look nice. Phil posted: 17 Oct 2017 12:32 from: Martin Wynne Phil O wrote: Having relaid a plain diamond and fettled a second, I can safely say that they are bad enough, I for one would not like to fettle that formation very often. Hi Phil, But their stated aim at the time was "Preservation". Nowadays many of them have dropped that, and simply call themselves "Heritage ...
... template. I can't see any useful purpose that is served by display of all of those paths; instead what I would want to see is the envelope representing the furthest projection of any part of the dummy vehicle in the course of such traverse. That seems likely to be a combination of parts of the various paths denoted by the purple lines, but one is only interested in the parts of such paths that extend further out than any of the other paths plotted. Only when the path plotted by one point crosses and lies outside the path described by any other point does it form part of the clearance envelope and need to be displayed. Not sure I've expresssed myself very clearly, and what I am proposing may be of excessive computational complexity in any case, but them's my thoughts. posted: 26 Sep 2017 15:33 from: Martin Wynne John Palmer wrote: Not sure I've expresssed myself very clearly, and what I am proposing may be of excessive computational complexity in any case, but them's my thoughts. Hi John, Yes you have ...
... Roger Henry A clever looking gadget, but Templot is The Way. But if you are without your trusty PC, what is wrong with a simple trammel? posted: 24 Sep 2017 16:00 from: Martin Wynne Roger Henry wrote: A clever looking gadget, but Templot is The Way. But if you are without your trusty PC, what is wrong with a simple trammel? Hi Roger, Or even a piece of string? It does need access to the radial centre, which may be off the baseboard, outside the room, obstructed by a model of Ben Nevis. Also difficult for those graceful gentle curves of 26ft radius. regards, Martin. posted: 24 Sep 2017 20:25 from: mikewturner My first thought was waste of time but given my planned model of Bannavie Junction Martin could have a point! :-) Strikes me would be more attractive if it was laser cut mdf, ply or Perspex. Regards Mike posted: 24 Sep 2017 21:12 from: Trevor Walling Hello, I'll give it a miss ...
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