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... remove the portion of key which sticks out from the chair and then open up the resultant jaws so that the rail is a loose fit. Phil Thanks for the tips- I shall pass them on to the builder. It's actually being designed for 31.5mm gauge 7mm scale, not S7. Jim. posted: 6 Apr 2012 12:44 from: Nigel Brown Jim, I thought of various schemes when I decided to use GW loose heel switches, and experimented with one or two involving pivot either under a cosmetic chair or adjacent to one. In the end, I reverted to my usual approach of trying the simplest thing which one thinks may work; saves a lot of effort and there's less to go wrong! This was simply to whack the rail into the single non-slide chair at the switch end and rely on the natural flexibility of the chair to allow the rail to pivot. I have six turnouts built like this and they all work fine. I suspect what is happening is chair and rail both flexing a bit. I've seen ...
... web, to simulate the intermediate joints. Slide the chairs onto the rail (suggest Mozart as accompaniment!), then solder cosmetic fishplates into the web. Don't forget to group the chairs in sections first- you can't slide them past the fishplates once they're on. For electrical connection, I use brass lace-making pins (about 0.6mm diameter), pushed through tight holes in the sleepers and bigger holes in the trackbed and baseboard, then wired underneath. You need exactly two such droppers on each rail section- on adjacent sleepers so that expansion between them is miniscule, but avoiding a single point of failure. Solder the rails to these- in 4mm the pin head leaves the rail height above the sleeper exactly matching the plastic chairs, although in your 7mm this might not be the case. Splitting the chairs that go on these sleepers in half and cementing them, cosmetically, in place leaves the droppers totally invisible. The virtue of this approach is that it leaves the rails securely fastened transversely, as they must be, and free to ...
223. PDF Creation
... topic: 1989 PDF Creation posted: 19 Jun 2012 12:13 from: Ray Hughes I chose to create a PDF file of just a couple of pages in order to print out of a template for a point that spans two pages. The initial PDF file created OK and, upon examining it I realised that I needed to change the timber spacings slightly on the adjacent track. I switched back to Templot and overlooked to close the PDF file. I managed to start the PDF (re-)creation but the process stopped with the (error) message Error in BeginDoc. As soon as I realised what was wrong I closed the original PDF file and was once again able to (re-)create a new file. I just wondered whether the error message could be worded to indicate exactly what the error was. posted: 19 Jun 2012 17:57 from: Martin Wynne Ray Hughes wrote: I managed to start the PDF (re-)creation but the process stopped with the (error) message Error in BeginDoc. ...
... do. At least now I've got the turnouts and plain track set up. Thanks again for your help. Regards Alan posted: 1 Aug 2012 11:28 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, There is a trick you can use which may help a bit: real> K-crossing options> customize K-crossings> K-crossing wing rails... menu item. This controls the position of the rail joint in the wing rails (the outer rails at a K-crossing), and hence the adjacent timbering. If you set this to 0 (zero), and then omit all the conflicting K- numbered timbers using shove timbers, you will have your custom timber spacing all the way to the centre. You can then shove those as necessary. You may even find a setting for that rail joint which creates your desired result. regards, Martin. posted: 1 Aug 2012 11:50 from: Alan McMillan That's great Martin, thanks for the hint...it does the job very nicely! Regards Alan posted ...
... make Martin, and yes I think I do fall very much into that category! I guess we find or start using software such as this when we want to do something, so human nature is that you jump in and want to get started creating a masterpiece! However, all of the above comments are taken on board, i'll sit and watch the video's again, see note below, and have a play around. One question, when your putting a curve in (yet to learn that!) or a siding adjacent to another line, how can you keep all the tracks at equal spacing? It seems a bit hit and miss, which suggests to me that i might be missing something? Just a note for the website owner/operator- although im using Templot on a PC laptop, I have an Apple Mac as my main day-to-day machine (far easier than anything Microsoft!) but i cant see some of the videos on here because there EXE files. I'm told this is because they are Windows only ...
... of the present method, it would mean that crabbing a timber on a curved template would cause it to move in an arc. That's not what most users would want or expect when shoving timbers close-up. I will add a note in the help texts that the crabbing function should be used only after any curving has taken place and the track layout finalized. This is normally the case for timber shoving anyway. But there is a bug there. The "B1" number has followed the curving and is no longer adjacent to the relevant timber. I need to look at that. It may not be an easy fix. Fortunately crab movements are seldom more than a foot or so, so even if not fixed the effect in most cases will be slight. Thanks again for finding this. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> I found a flaw> One bonus timber does not curve with the rest. about Templot ...
227. TDV
... Len Cattley Attachment: attach_1154_1597_S7_Tebay_& _Kirkby-Stephen_crossing.box 187 posted: 24 Aug 2011 16:51 from: Martin Wynne Len Cattley wrote: I have been trying to do these irregular crossings in the TDV but can't make them work. I have attached a file so you can see what I need to do, can any help me with this? Hi Len, Try this (for Templot Development Version only): start with the top turnout -- delete to the control peg on datum CTRL-0 tools> adjacent track centres... change the centres to the S7 pre-set -- 78.17mm real> V-crossing options> curviform V-crossing real> V-crossing options> V-crossing angle... set it to 8.75 tools> make ladder crossover> make curviform ladder tools> make branch track Remove the underlying conflicting templates and re-connect to the diamond. You will probably want to shorten the first half-diamond (F4). In practice a C-9 might be more likely for ...
... -curve" a longer length of rail to the radius of the completed formation, then cut pieces, file the angles then assemble the crossings with the rails still over-length. Only then, when everything issoldered up, do I use the piercing saw to cut the rails accurately to length. You can use bits of blu-tac to hold the rails and chairs to the template while you solder everything up. You will see from the pics that I soldered up a complete assembly of the K crossing and the two adjacent switch/ stock rails and then split the crossings from the switch blades in so that they could be reassembled with the insulated fishplates. I hope that is all clear, I am about to start something a bit more complex, so I anyone is interested, I could take a few pics to show how I do it. (not that my way is the only/ best way- just it works well for me). This kind of fiddling about does not suit everyone- but I like building nice looking track ...
... damn nuisance when building complex formations from multiple partial templates, and I fully expect experienced users to switch back to the classic Templot mode for such work. And probably much else. That was exactly the reason I thought this would not be a good idea! But... Especially when timber shoving you can instantly swap from one template to the next, although it's important not to mis-click on the timber numbers. Yes, that does sound good, also useful when doing the odd manual shuffle and tweak to get adjacent templates to line up "by eye" in awkward situations. I still think "Classic" should be default, although in your efforts to make Templot more Windows-like you've not only used the term "Classic" but made that the non-default option! I just wonder how often "Wipe to control" is used? That does seem to cause people confusion, but to be honest if it disappeared I wouldn't miss it. What do others think? Whatever you do though, please don't change existing keyboard ...
230. 3 way point help
... copied off a larger layout design so i have the one turnout instead of 7/8, that's the reason I'm worried about the entrance and exit positions moving posted: 12 Dec 2016 23:59 from: Tony W If you wipe the second template to the control and move the peg to the Ctrl 4 position, you can adjust the switch type without the crossing moving. I have done this and attached the A-6 version box file. The next problem is that the middle crossing will be very close to the adjacent running rail so a full crossing vee will not fit. Regards Tony W. Attachment: attach_2353_2946_3_way_A6.box 232 posted: 13 Dec 2016 01:50 from: Martin Wynne Hi, Welcome to Templot Club. As others have said there are a few issues with your tandem to fit in the check and wing rails for the middle crossing. Ideally the first turnout needs to be a bit longer, maybe a B-7 or a 12ft switch -7. You might also do better changing to 4-SF (00- ...
... is to get two tracks running from the end of the crossing that remain parallel/equal distance from each other and putting in a crossing off of them off towards a wharf/dock. undefined undefined Attachment: attach_2235_2853_woolwich_dockyard ch_2016_03_04_1950_53.box 196 posted: 4 Mar 2016 22:10 from: Martin Wynne Hi Kelly, Welcome to Templot Club. To have tracks running parallel/concentric, use the tools> make double-track or the tools> make crossover functions to create the second track from the first (having first set the required adjacent track centres). n.b. In the centre of your plan you do not have a full 6ft way between the double tracks, which means there is insufficient passing clearance for vehicles. Use the tools> spacing-ring to check for track spacing, see: 2_041654_360000000.png For your wharf crossover, 1. delete from your plan the purple diamond-crossing and outer curve templates. 2. delete the inner curve and turnout to the control template. 3a. it is currently set to a curviform V-crossing. If ...
... . I have no completed the re-work and have have included the plane here for others information. The latest plan bears more that a passing resemblence to Swanage (albeit shorted and the goods yard compressed) I moved the engine shed from the original Swanage plan, since it did not look right on my compressed layout. I do realise the headshunt is far too short, however due to space restrictions the plan is to continue the headhsunt "offstage" into the fiddle yard. Initially it may appear the spacing between the adjacent tracks is a little wide, (15' 2") but this is deliberate to accomodate Drop Flap shunting signals, rodding etc. The plan is for P4 scale and the zip file includes the basebard outlines Cheers Phil Attachment: attach_805_1140_Bridport_Bay_LSWR _1910.zip 380 Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Share and show> Bridport bay LSWR 1910 Latest Plan about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for ...
... , being used to support a rail joint. The hole for the chair lines up with a bolt hole for the fish plate, but has no bolt in it now. Note also the amount of holes for track circuit detection. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/8754139446/ And finally- just to prove wrong Martin's theory about 'when taking photos of track, they always wait until there's a train in the way', someone has very kindly noted that and waited until the loco is on the adjacent track. A nice picture of an interlaced turnout at Grosmont, NYMR, though with the crossing and toe cropped(!) I don't know if this turnout is still present (photo 2013) but I am up there next month so will have a look (this vantage point is easily accessible from a public path) I hope that will help someone. Derek Last edited on 9 Nov 2015 17:13 by DerekStuart Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your ...
... topic: 1138 Roll Rails Automatically posted: 3 Jun 2010 11:35 from: philchudley Hi All I find that the Roll Rails function in Templot is useful to adjust rail joints across adjacent templates to maintain consistent sleeper spacing. However I do find that current display of Percentage rolled in, is not quite as informative as it may be. Let's set up a simple example. I have plain track template A with 11 sleepers, and track template B with 13 sleepers. I am using 18 rail sections of 18 sleepers in length. So I using Roll Rails I can adjust template A (roll in 7 sleepers) to maintain 18 sleepers between the templates. Two issues arise, the display being in percentage is one, but maintaining the correct distance between the last sleeper in template A and the first sleeper in template B May I suggest, that the following are considered: 1) The display is changed to number of sleepers rolled in rather than a percentage 2) An option to roll in a specified number of sleepers 3) The ultimate ...
... Jan 2016 14:29 by johndon posted: 10 Jan 2016 00:21 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, Thanks for posting your file. However, it is set to T-55 gauge which is almost certainly not what you want, so I will have to guess P4. You are exploring corners of Templot where beginners seldom go. Initially make the straight double track long enough for the entire formation, i.e. the turnout plus the double track. To create the common-rail double-track, set the adjacent track centres to the track gauge+ the rail width. For P4 that would be 18.83mm+ 0.92mm= 19.75mm. Then put the fixing peg on the centre-line of the common rail, which you can do by going to geometry> peg on line or rail> on double-track centre menu item. Then peg it onto the notch at the required location in your track plan for the toe (the blade tips end) of the turnout. Then make the double-track from it, and store it ...
... the addition infomation, very informative. That diagram actually shows through timbers right back to the Closure Rails/Crossing joints. I have gone for more of a practical comprise, which I'm sure they would have on site. 1522_220214_580000000.png Thanks for every ones thoughts Regards Dave posted: 22 Apr 2010 08:33 from: Martin Wynne David wrote: That diagram actually shows through timbers right back to the Closure Rails/Crossing joints. Hi Dave, The limiting condition is not the position within the turnout, but the proximity of the adjacent rails outside the turnout. Long timbers tend not to be used where the space to the next set of rails is more than about 3ft-ish. Two shorter timbers, or a timber and a sleeper, would be used instead. This means that your crossover with widened track spacing requires fewer long timbers -- but each one is longer than the 19ft-6in shown in that diagram. As the tracks widen further, the number of long timbers needed gets fewer, but the timbers get longer. If the crossover ...
... topic: 2838 Midland Railway Trackwork circa 1900- does anyone have prototype images? posted: 1 Feb 2016 21:53 from: Tim Lee Hi, Has anyone any images of turn outs and switches for the Midland circa 1900 ish? Particularly looking for detail on the stretcher bars etc. Any images for the ballasting of this period would also be very helpful. Thanks Tim posted: 4 Feb 2016 15:31 from: rodney_hills Tim this chap is modelling The adjacent station, Millers Dale c 1900: http://forum.signalbox.org/viewtopic.php?f =16&t =6558 regards Rodney Hills posted: 4 Feb 2016 15:46 from: rodney_hills Tim, Monsal Dale stn 1911 http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/photo?group=Derby&objid=1997-7397_DY_36 rgds, Rodney posted: 4 Feb 2016 15:54 from: Tim Lee Thanks Rodney for both links.... Much appreciated. The detailed discussions on signalling will be interesting reading- haven't even started to think about that. Regards Tim posted: ...
238. Slip Problems
... topic: 1105 Slip Problems posted: 16 Apr 2010 15:37 from: Alan Turner I am having a bit of a problem constructing a slip. Everything is OK until I convert to a slip road. What happens then is shown in the picture below. As you can see the slip road jumps away from the points and aligns with the adjacent rail. Any ideas anyone? Alan Attachment: attach_776_1105_Slip_problem.png 163 posted: 16 Apr 2010 15:58 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, We needed the previous screen, but I'm 99% sure that is a left-hand switch, and you should be using a right-hand one there. regards, Martin. posted: 16 Apr 2010 17:36 from: Alan Turner Thanks Martin I will try that. I think it comes down to the subtlety between Swap Hand and Invert Handing. Alan Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Slip Problems about Templot Club Templot Companion ...
239. Firefox
... No problems Regards, Brian W Lewis posted: 24 Mar 2010 14:05 from: Bruce Wilson Latest update 3.6.2 just installed and working fine way across the pond. Bruce Wilson Barrie, Ontario, Canada posted: 24 Mar 2010 17:59 from: Nigel Brown Ff 3.6.2 installed here and working OK as well. Must say I'm not enthusiastic about the change in 3.6 re where newly opened tabs appear on the tab bar; I'm used to looking on the end of the list; now they appear in the middle usually adjacent to the current window, might seem logical but I find the end a more natural place to look. posted: 24 Mar 2010 19:36 from: Paul Boyd <AOL mode> Everything fine here with 3.6.2 <\ AOL> posted: 24 Mar 2010 20:26 from: Phil O Hi All Thanks for the feedback all appears to be OK here now, must have been a temporary glitch, or somebody took the spanner out of the works. Cheers Phil Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you ...
... /Services/Jargon-Buster/T /TP-TT/Trap-Points Last edited on 28 Sep 2015 21:39 by madscientist posted: 28 Sep 2015 21:51 from: Martin Wynne Let's not go into all that yet again. We have done it to death several times already. The physical object is called a set of catch points. It is labelled as such on the permanent-way engineering manufacturing drawings. It can be used as "trap points" to protect passenger lines from runaway vehicles on adjacent goods lines. Other permanent-way components can also be used as "trap points". For example full turnouts, turnouts with over-the-top crossings, slips, derailers, sand drags, spurs, etc. The vast majority of railwaymen are not permanent-way engineers so do not need to know the names of the p.w. components, only their operational function, and therefore refer to them as "trap points". But Templot is about permanent-way, so in Templot this component is a ...
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