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21. trackbed edges
... topic: 1489 trackbed edges posted: 17 May 2011 02:17 from: Martin Wynne empty topic -- please return here later Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Development doings- archive> trackbed edges about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web site are copyright and the property of the respective contributor. You are welcome to use them for your own personal non-commercial purposes, and in your messages on this web site. If you want to publish any of this material elsewhere or use it commercially, you must first obtain the owner's permission to do so. The small print: All material submitted to this web site is the responsibility of the respective contributor. By ...
... in Templot for 20 years! output> export a file... menu item. 2_051104_030000000.png The 3D exports are currently out of action while I'm working on 3D printing exports for the track. But all the 2D functions are working fine. Here's a bit of 2D Templot imported into a CAD program: 2_051111_310000000.png You can have as much or as little of the Templot output as you want in the DXF. See the help notes on the DXF dialog. For what you want you are probably looking to export Templot's geometry> trackbed edges... functions (2nd item in the layer list below): 2_270733_000000000.png The most important setting to get right is mm or inches, and a matching setting in your CAD's DXF import options. cheers, Martin. posted: 27 Apr 2020 13:17 from: Mike Kynaston Martin, That is great, thank you! How you manage to predict 20 years ago, that during a lockdown in 2020, I'd need this is beyond me! That crystal ball must be working very well is all I can ...
... a Cad package and create offset lines. posted: 10 Jun 2009 23:13 from: Martin Wynne MikeTrice wrote: Yes, your workaround would probably work although I would prefer both rail foot edges to be present. My difficulty all stems from the initial placing of the first rails on the template, after which track gauges take over. Hi Mike, Joe, There is another workaround you can use to add the inner foot lines for the main road only, in version 091c. 1. generator> generator settings> trackbed edges menu option. 2. Measure the rail section and calculate the dummy "track gauge" between the inner foot lines. 3. generator> generator settings> trackbed width... menu item. 4. Click the? help F2 button for full information. 5. Set the dummy "track gauge" as the trackbed width. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Templates ...
... suitable dimension, or b. set geometry> turnout-road exit length> normal. I will look at adding a warning when the track spacing is set very small, thanks for reporting it. p.s. if you want the centre-line for double track, without changing the track spacing settings, you can do geometry> centre-line offset options> MS double track centre. That way you don't need a separate template. If the reason for wanting the double-track centre line was for the ballast edge or trackbed edge, see instead the geometry> trackbed edges> menu options. There is more info on the? trackbed- help menu item. regards, Martin. posted: 1 Apr 2017 11:18 from: Phil O Hi Martin Thanks, I thought it might have something to do with the track centre-lines. The reason for using the track centre-line rather than track bed edges, is that it's possible to get a nice curving sweep to avoid obstructions, whereas the track bed edges is the abrupt change ...
... usable template in colour or black and white. The cess would not extend into the area to which you refer anyway. The timber and rail positions of relevance are still usable despite the blank area. There will probably be some technical reason Martin has ignored it possibly? posted: 15 Jul 2017 01:15 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, Firstly of course it makes no sense for the cess to overlap adjacent templates. I am currently working on a new function to make the start position and length of the cess and trackbed edges adjustable in the the same way as for the platforms. This was suggested by Phil O recently. But thanks for reporting this. You didn't say why you are using black& white, or on what type of printer? The easiest short-term fix is to set output> output drawing options> rail infill style> none menu option. That in itself is an anomaly -- the cess isn't rail so shouldn't be affected by the rail settings. I will fix this in the next program update.* ...
... Output options to laser cutter posted: 29 Apr 2015 02:14 from: nberrington Hi Martin et al I have been away from the forum for a while, but am finally getting to doing my layout. (Have the space, money, just not the time!) I was wondering if one can export a template to a program such as Corel, which I currently use as an interface with a laser cutter and Shopbot CNC router. This would allow "drawing" the track plan directly onto the plywood base or trackbed. Is this possible? Output options don't seem to include templates. Is this correct? regards Neil posted: 29 Apr 2015 04:18 from: Martin Wynne Hi Neil, For such applications you can export a CAD file (DXF) or a metafile image (EMF). See output> export a file... menu item. Sorry, I'm not familiar with Corel so you need to check which of these it can import -- DXF for preference. Note that you can't export the control template directly ...
... preferences files, and load a different one at any time. To do what you want will need a new file type and some buttons to save and load it. I will look at doing that. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Aug 2017 14:12 from: Martin Wynne p.s. just to add that by using a library template you can set up so much more for your narrow-gauge templates than just the gauge and scale. For example timber sizes and spacings, check rail settings, rail section, trackbed width, platform edge spacing, blunt nose width, plain track rail lengths, etc. etc... Just copy it to the control template, and off you go. Martin. posted: 15 Aug 2017 14:17 from: rynd2it Martin Wynne wrote: p.s. just to add that by using a library template you can set up so much more for your narrow-gauge templates than just the gauge and scale. For example timber sizes and spacings, check rail settings, rail section, trackbed width, ...
... . Hi Andrew, There are at least 5 different ways to do this. 1. If you want the baseboard outlines to be part of the .box file, you can create them as dummy track templates. Simply set geometry> track centre-lines only for plain track templates. You can then use all the usual mouse actions and template adjustments to create whatever straight or curved baseboard outlines you want, including curved edges following the tracks, etc. For open-top baseboard construction, you can have cutting lines for the trackbed edges shown on the trackpad by clicking the geometry> add trackbed edge menu items. 2. The original intended way is to use the background shapes functions. Click the main> background shapes menu item. You can add rectangles, lines and other shapes in two ways: by first clicking 2 corner locations on the trackpad, or by entering the dimensions for each shape. Such background shapes are saved in a separate .bgs file, they are not in the .box file. To see them you need to reload the .bgs ...
... A 50mph easterly has stripped nearly all the snow from the exposed bits of the fields and dumped it in drifts and, as I discovered when I took a look at the road near my place, on the roads. Was bitter out, -3C before the wind chill factor, but forecast is for it to improve. That's a light snow shower sweeping down the valley. Last edited on 3 Mar 2018 00:15 by Nigel Brown posted: 3 Mar 2018 02:29 from: Martin Wynne Today's Geograph: elan_valley_railbed_1280x960.jpg Trackbed of Elan Valley Railway at Penygarreg Reservoir The Elan Valley Railway was opened in 1894 to transport men and materials to the construction sites for the Elan Valley dams. The former trackbed is now a cycle path and very popular with visitors to this scenic area of mid-Wales. The Craig Goch dam can be seen in the distance above the trees on the island. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5697001 As can be seen, my mountaineering is on a more modest scale than some illustrated here. Martin. posted ...
... edge line at the correct distance from the track and following the curve of the track? Looking forward to Xmas and (hopefully) the release of Templot 2. Hi Art, Platforms are a new feature in TDV and Templot2. You can adjust the dimensions and spacing from the track as required: 2_030552_450000000.png I have turned you purple so that you can get TDV now if you wish. The TDV download and instructions are here: topic_1500&forum_id=18 In earlier versions of Templot you can create such adjacent lines using the trackbed edges option in the generator. This has been re-worked in TDV to create the new platforms feature, see the real> platforms... menu item, and the geometry> trackbed edge menu items. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Dec 2011 11:07 from: LSWRArt Martin Many thanks for the response and turning me purple. Looking forward to starting Best wishes Arthur Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums ...
... existing templates. However, it is no longer possible to switch each rail on and off independently. I didn't see any real need for this. However you can in effect turn one side off by setting the centre spacing to zero. (Or you can when I have fixed a bug -- at present set the spacing to 0.01 mm.) There is now a single switch in the generator -- generator settings> adjacent features menu item. This controls generation of not only these guide rails but also the platforms and trackbed edges. regards, Martin. posted: 11 Oct 2011 17:39 from: Tony W Hi bob. As you say, there is indeed always more to discover. Up till now I was unaware of the Alt click options with the ruler and that is a very useful trick. I have been zooming out to find the ruler and laboriously moving the ends with the mouse previously! (Memo to self, read the help screens more often.) As you have probably discovered by now, having the adjacent tracks ...
... it works! It's sometimes a good idea to scatter a few rivets at strategic points, but plastic chairs solvent glued onto ply sleepers are very strong. It might seem contradictory, but it's also relatively easy to loosen the chairs by slipping a blade underneath if you need to make adjustments. One issue with plastic chair/ply timber construction is that unsupported track can be distorted. I now get around that by printing the templates onto thick card (Bristol Board, 250gsm) and building onto that, then the card forms the trackbed. Cheers posted: 11 Mar 2010 18:19 from: Dellboy Paul Boyd wrote: I now get around that by printing the templates onto thick card (Bristol Board, 250gsm) and building onto that, then the card forms the trackbed. Paul That's an interesting way to do it. Presumably you have any underlay between the card& baseboard, and you glue the card down with Photo-mount or PVA etc.. What do you fix the sleepers down to the card with and do you pre-ballast ...
... (hopefully) three baseboards of no more than 1.2 metres long and about 475mm wide. As such they easilty sit on my modelling bench and I was planning on building them in-situ. Comments and thoughts on this appreciated. I see no value in building the slabs of track work on paper and relocating them to the layout when the laser cutting creates useful alignment to ensure each piece of laser cut panel aligns itself with its neighbor eliminating the hassel of trying to align individula items of pointwork insitu. 5) Assuming the trackbed is laid, sleepers are stuck down (pre stained or weathered post installation) I am then planning to ballast the track along the lines of that proposed by Rice ie at the same time as laying the sleepers. As individual sleepers do not need to be laid I am assumning that a slab of track work sleepers can be laid onto a PVA glue quite quickly and the ballast for the whole sheet laid at the same time. Thoughts and ideas? 6) Once this is done I was planning on approaching the layout ...
... and scratch-building then the choice is EM or P4. The radii in this design are such that P4 will be right on the limit, but you can get anything round any radius if you are building from scratch and make enough compromises. Given the sharply curved steep gradients and shortish vertical curves, I think compensation/springing of the steam locos will be either essential or very desirable in either gauge. So the actual work in P4 may be no greater than EM if you have the necessary carpentry skills for a P4 trackbed, which you say you do. The biggest mystery of this design is why you have chosen a scheme with so little hidden storage? It's difficult to see how a running session will work with nowhere to run stock off-stage? Jim's idea of running down to storage tracks under the junction station is going to involve some very tricky carpentry to keep the construction depth under the whole station area to an absolute minimum. There won't be enough clearance to handle stock physically under there, so it would mean either fixed rakes ...
... dragging the bottom edge of the mouse action panel upwards. regards, Martin. Initially I thought the same as Keith, but Martin is quite right about the effect of re-sizing the mouse action window, which 'remembers' the last sizing of the 'STOP' button whenever it is displayed. Does it remember that setting from session to session? posted: 9 Sep 2017 14:10 from: Phil O I quite like the stop button and the automatic slip construction is simply brilliant. Thanks Martin for the change to the trackbed edges. posted: 9 Sep 2017 15:25 from: Andrew Duncan Hello MartinThe new version loaded without problem on my laptop running windows 10. And yes I agree with everyone else, the slip addition is brilliant. Now I know you're expecting this, but if you'd now conjure up a three way, I promise not to ask you anything more....for at least a very long time! Kind regards Andrew posted: 9 Sep 2017 17:38 from: KeithArmes Thanks for the stop button explanation, Martin ...
36. Changes in 217a
... change on the turnout side. Now a length of sleeper-less plain track can be pegged on over the timbers. Also useful where the main-road rails need to be shorter than the wing rails and check rails, for example when using V-crossings as partial templates in other formations such as a tandem turnout. See also the "second turnout close behind first turnout" video at: http://templot.com/sk5/switch_close_behind_v_crossing _.sk5 which now needs a bit of updating. 3. If templates have the trackbed edges/ ballast/ cess options applied, these can now be shown on diagram-mode outputs. For full details see: topic 3034- message 23076 Thanks to Phil O for this suggestion. 4. There are new options for the top toolbars on the trackpad. The toolbuttons can be displayed in one long row if your screen is wide enough, and can be dragged anywhere on the screen if preferred. For full details see: topic 3151- message 23084 5. There are several new functions intended primarily to help ...
... easy way to add two lines inside the running rails of a Templot plan to represent a cutting line for making the 'four foot' infill in street or harbour track. I thought I had seen it asked before but have searched the forum() and didn't find anything suitable. I did find posts asking about conductor rails( using platform edges) and mixed gauge turnouts( too complicated for me). Any clues anyone? Rob posted: 24 Feb 2018 19:49 from: Martin Wynne Hi Rob, Try geometry> trackbed edges... Set the width for each side from the centre-line separately: 2_241448_400000000.png If you want a single solid line, choose the ballast+ cess option and set the cess width... very narrow. cheers, Martin. posted: 24 Feb 2018 22:12 from: Rob Manchester Thanks Martin, brilliant, just the job Rob Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Templates for ...
... to optimise the situation so hope the result is acceptable. Changing the C switch for a D paradoxically makes the situation worse. Timbering also sorted, I hope! Regards Tony. Attachment: attach_2514_3046_kelly_shepperton _mod_2017_10_03_2238_55.box 169 posted: 3 Oct 2017 23:01 from: d827kelly Thanks Tony. That should be it. I've printed the other templates to the left and below of there off. Should be good to print the oil depot off now too. Thanks again for all your help. Next job, join the templates up and secure trackbed to boards (balsa) and templates to that. Then track building can slowly start. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Trackbuilding topics> Making a start on shoving timbers about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about ...
... posted: 25 Jan 2020 21:38 from: Martin Wynne Gordon S wrote: Thought you may be interested in this. I printed off a print map of the section I'm working on and sadly even on A4 paper, it's still to small to see where the particular crossover is I'm working on. I can cope with it, so no need to do anything. Hi Gordon, Well clearly there is a need to do something, so thanks for posting this. The problem is being made worse by the presence of trackbed edges on the preview. As I said I'm working on a re-write of this part of Templot. In the meantime, don't forget that you can put the page outlines on the normal trackpad, and zoom in. It doesn't show the page numbers, but from the position and layout of page joins it may help you to find the one required: 2_251636_360000000.png cheers, Martin. p.s. thanks Rob for testing. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in ...
40. Chasewater
... Ian Allan Pre-Grouping Atlas and Bartholomew's Gazetteer (1932 ed) confirm the MRN spelling of: Chacewater. S. A. Leleux made the same spelling error in his "An Index to Model Railway Drawings", on page 87. There IS a S.G. Chasewater Railway in Chasewater Country Park near Brownhills, Staffordshire. The Chacewater to Newquay line opened throughout in 1903 and closed 4 Feb 1963. Chacewater station itself closed 5 Oct 1964. The Lappa Valley Railway (15" gauge, etc) uses part of the trackbed. Regards, Rodney Hills Attachment: attach_21_p1.chacewater.jpg 1013 posted: 5 Jun 2007 17:28 from: rodney_hills Page 2 of Chacewater BR(WR) article from 'Model Railway News' of May 1957. Regards, Rodney Hills Attachment: attach_23_p2.chacewater.jpg 738 posted: 5 Jun 2007 17:29 from: rodney_hills Page 3 of Chacewater BR(WR) article from 'Model Railway News' of May 1957. (only one attachment seems to be permitted per posting) Regards, Rodney Hills Attachment: attach_24_p3.chacewater.jpg 914 posted: 5 Jun 2007 ...
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