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... no joy, here is the alternative screencast link: http://screencast.com/t /yktUb8ajON Ask again if this doesn't answer your question. regards, Martin. posted: 12 Sep 2013 20:47 from: tonytopshed Thanks, but my problem is that I haven't got that white line to play with. Regards Tony posted: 12 Sep 2013 20:59 from: Martin Wynne tonytopshed wrote: Thanks, but my problem is that I haven't got that white line to play with. Oh. How about geometry> adjacent options> trackbed edges and platforms? or generator> generator settings> adjacent features? Do the platforms appear if you store the template? regards, Martin. posted: 12 Sep 2013 21:09 from: Martin Wynne p.s. Tony, the platform can vanish and be tricky to get back if you have moved it to the far end of the template and then shortened the template (F4) to remove that part. See if the platform appears if you temporarily extend the template length. You may have copied this ...
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... (proto) Flare Length= 28 ins (proto), or even down to say 24 ins. This will clear the tips of the wing rails away from each of the tongue rails satisfactorily, and still give you full check rail function at the Vee gap. Just a further note on my scissors sample, you may note I chose to make all the TXP points of the 4 turnouts align at the same centre point, this gives the final template the appearance of having 'staggered' switch blades, i.e. not aligned adjacent to each other at either ends of the two curves, now this is not wrong and, is sometimes seen in prototype formations. However, the same technique I used to construct my sample, can be equally used to produce curved scissor formations that exhibit aligned switch blades on both inner and outer curved roads. It just means there is a number of further manipulations which are needed at certain steps in the procedure to achieve the correct formation. This is why I am re-writing my help guide, in order to ...
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... -- click the white bar: 2_271511_410000000.png Which shows these notes. Note the bit I have marked red -- if you created a regular ladder you must have been starting from a regular V-crossing: Make Ladder A "ladder" track is one which crosses multiple running lines diagonally, comprised of a string of diamond-crossings and/or slips. In Templot a ladder is created by clicking the TOOLS> MAKE LADDER menu item repeatedly, once for each diamond-crossing. This makes it possible to change the adjacent track spacing for each diamond-crossing (GEOMETRY> ADJACENT TRACK CENTRES... menu item) as necessary. If slip roads are needed, they are added to the diamond-crossings afterwards. There are two types of ladder track: 1. In a REGULAR ladder, the diagonal-road has the same radius as the main-road (or both are straight), and all crossing angles are therefore equal. Regular ladder tracks are comprised of REGULAR diamond-crossings, and are commonly seen in station throats ...
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... the box file of where I am so far, Can anyone point me at what I am supposed to do next? J Attachment: attach_1534_2107_tandemtrial.box 291 posted: 12 Nov 2012 18:37 from: Tony W Hi Julia. The problem with your Tandem is that the switch pairs are too close together and the second set of blades cannot be opened. I have altered the geometry to give a more practical solution although the second switch is still very tight. If moved further along then the middle crossing gets too close to the adjacent running rail. I have positioned the peg where the fine point of the third crossing will need to go. This is done by using "Action> mouse actions: control/ geometry> Move Peg ctlr+ F8" with the "Geometry> peg on line or rail> on turnout-road crossing rail" to find the intersection. I have also altered the timbering to "Real> timbering> square on (to main road)". Hope this helps. Tony. Attachment: attach_1537_2107_tandem_trial_2.bo x 255 posted: ...
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... a) there must be at least 11" scale space (gauge-face to gauge face) for the second point blade to open behind the first one. This allows space for the slide chair on the second point blade and a bridge chair or bolted half-chair on the first one. Use the RULER tool (0.78.e) to measure the space. b) there must be at least 14" scale space either side of the middle V-crossing to allow space for the wing rails and the chairs on the adjacent rails. Sometimes the wing rails are shortened because of this and bolted half-chairs used for the running rail. Here's a picture showing that: http://www.scalefour.org/resources/images/chairs-4.jpg (Thanks to Keith Norgrove). c) no two V-crossings must be opposite one another, as this prevents the check rails being correctly positioned. You will soon discover that there are only certain combinations of two turnout sizes which will fit. You can't combine any two sizes which take your fancy ...
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... stuck trying to create a crossover between two existing tracks spaced at say 100mm apart. I usually try to guestimate the position of the second turnout. There must be a more accurate way but being only an occasional user i've not figured it out.Can anybody give me a pointer to a relevent tutorial or suggestion. RegardsRay. posted: 17 Dec 2012 11:01 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ray, If you know the spacing exactly, say 100mm: 1. insert a turnout in one of the tracks. 2. tools> adjacent track centres... and enter 100mm for the TS spacing. 3. tools> make simple crossover. That will give you the rail geometry, but the timbering will not be very prototypical. A proper prototypical wide crossover needs a bit more work. There is a video about creating a wide crossover at 100mm centres, at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/wide_xover_audio.exe Martin. posted: 17 Dec 2012 11:36 from: r_wilton Martin Wynne wrote: Hi Ray, If you know the ...
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... topic: 3794 short rails, joints and timbering, rolling rails posted: 5 Oct 2020 07:35 from: Graham Long I have just made a new start for a track plan. Before I go too far I want to make sure I am using the programme efficiently. I have made a custom "rail and track" (44'6" with 18 sleepers per length) I have only got as far as making a loco release road road crossover and adjacent siding. Here is how a went about it. I have called the Templates 1 to 5 for the sake of this query. a) Got a plain track template, curved this to 1400 mm and made it 1 panel length. (Template 1) b) Produced a turnout template (Old GWR and 14' V angle 1:8) I curved this to MS of 5280. (Template 2) c) Then formed a crossover. (Templot 3) d) I then formed a double track to TS of Templot 2. (Templot 4) e) I ...
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... that on this page: http://templot.com/martweb/pug_info_2.htm Scroll down to "new roll rails functions" and click the "info" icon. Ask again if this isn't answering your question. regards, Martin. posted: 3 Mar 2016 20:46 from: Robin Gristwood Thanks for that quick reply Martin. Before I have a go with the links you have provided I have another question. I'm not sure about is just how many 'long' timbers I should use on a crossover, particularly if the adjacent track centres are greater than the minimum. Being used to using proprietary turnouts and flex-track I had to trim off the ends of sleepers/timbers where they overlapped, now though how do I manage where sleepers/timbers overlap each other, and when should the angle change? posted: 3 Mar 2016 21:45 from: Martin Wynne Robin Gristwood wrote: I'm not sure about is just how many 'long' timbers I should use on a crossover, particularly if the adjacent track centres are greater than the minimum ...
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... most of the small orchard to the west of the station approach5 Cut the straight lines to the east of the goods yard and turned them to indicate roughly where I wanted the rails to bend as they enter the fiddle yard.6 Added the missing entry to the goods yard and berthing tracks7 shortened the clay pit in the lower right (SE) corner. Note the Z guage rails in this area represent the horse drawn railway from the clay pit to the nearby (about a mile) brick fields, and the return route to run adjacent to the goods yard rail in the SE corner so that the bricks could be transfered from the horse drawn wagons to the loco drawn wagons. I assume that these two lines would have been adjacent so that bricks could be passed from one wagon directly to the other without needing to be stacked in between.8 the four tracks heading west towards the fiddle yard are respectively:Northern 1- Up line to Kingston and ultimately Waterloo (originally would have gone via Richmond)No 2 -Down line from KingstonNo 3- Main berthing line ...
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... transition zone: 2_181742_020000000.png In the next program update. Martin. posted: 18 Nov 2017 22:53 from: JFS Excellent! I have long wanted this as so often it seemed to be a case of trial and (almost always) error! Never thought/ knew about using the timber numbering... Well done and many thanks, Howard Last edited on 18 Nov 2017 22:56 by JFS posted: 20 Nov 2017 12:32 from: Tony W In a previous life, I used to use the adjacent rails facility for this, but that option disappeared when Templot was updated to show all four rails at once. Like Howard it was then a case of hit or miss, so this will be welcomed. Regards Tony. posted: 20 Nov 2017 15:27 from: Martin Wynne Tony W wrote: Like Howard it was then a case of hit or miss, so this will be welcomed. Hi Tony, It wasn't supposed to be hit or miss. You look along the template towards the CTRL-1 end ...
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... topic: 3840 Irregular slips posted: 23 Dec 2020 11:10 from: Graham Long I have started making a single slip. My initial step was to "make irregular diamond at intersection". The setup is a main road of 6000mm radius with an adjacent loop road on a radius 6044.67. The ladder turnout was a 1:8 with a resultant turnout radius of 4286.96. The slip will go from the loop road (6044.67 radius) to the branch. This resulted in a one V of 4.37 and the other of 6.86 I thought these were relatively generous curves. However, in another topic Martin mentioned that a V of 1:5 was much to small for a slip road. What is considered to be the smallest V that I could use? I could make the branch curve bigger but then there wouldn't be a the same curvature through the ladder and turnout. I would also be interested to know how close the V should be to a whole number or half of one e.g. 1:6, 1:6.5, ...
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... friend had mentioned, so he found that response useful as well, having lost it in the menus! I assumed that everything remained flat, in terms of levels, but I will probably take your advice on the centre line approach when printing templates off, just to aid the readability. Could you point me in the right direction re number 5 please? Using shift and snap works, but it's frustrating always having to click the button rather than just hitting the F key, so I assume there is another way of aligning adjacent track items? Mike posted: 22 Feb 2020 12:30 from: Martin Wynne Mike Kynaston wrote: Could you point me in the right direction re number 5 please? Using shift and snap works, but it's frustrating always having to click the button rather than just hitting the F key, so I assume there is another way of aligning adjacent track items? Hi Mike, The snapping is modified by holding down the SHIFT key. When using the top tool-button, snapping is turned OFF by pressing the Shift ...
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... it, i dont need that much clearance, the 1 in 50s would give 200mm roughly. i can reduce that and have gentler gradients. posted: 18 Feb 2020 16:08 from: Phil O I have taken the liberty of altering your terminus as per my earlier proposal and tidied up your platform roads. I think you can also perform a similar exercise in the fiddleyard as each road appears to be on the same radii. A further couple of proposals would be to add a crossover to the headshunt road and the adjacent platform road, unless you propose to shunt the yard with the train loco, I would also add a crossover to the branch station, to allow any loco hauled trains to run around. Cheers Phil. Attachment: attach_2995_3613_charlton_junction _2020_02_18_1546_53.box 122 posted: 18 Feb 2020 20:26 from: ikcdab Phil O wrote: I have taken the liberty of altering your terminus as per my earlier proposal and tidied up your platform roads. I think you can also perform a similar exercise in the fiddleyard as each road appears to be on ...
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... 2020 13:01 from: Martin Wynne DerekStuart wrote: the gap between timbers at the rail joint needs to be no more than X (I can't recall what it is, but I think your gap might be a little too large). Hi Derek, Jason, Anything written about pointwork design has to be hedged about with a lot of generally/normally/usuallys because almost anything you say can be trumped by someone posting a photograph showing the exact opposite. However, deep breath, in a running line the timbers adjacent to a rail joint should be no further than 13 inches from the joint to the timber centre, i.e. at 26" centres maximum. Otherwise the joint won't be sufficiently supported and there is a risk of dipping and broken fishplates. In non-running lines such as crossover connections, yards and sidings, the spacings might be wider, although usually some attempt is made to get the timbers as close to the rail joints as possible. But, for bullhead track, the timbers can't be closer than 12 inches from ...
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... be a few waiting to be discovered. The open-source versions of Templot can be found at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/opentemplot/ N.B. They are still in development and don't yet provide the same full functionality as Templot2. 2. saved program preferences Your saved program preferences now include your chosen colour scheme for the trackpad, and your current setting for having the background template name labels on or off (END key). More about saving program preferences at: topic 2652- message 18289 3. adjacent track centres There is a new option to make the adjacent track centres settings in model mm if you prefer: 2_191800_480000000.png This is an Admin topic so can't be replied to here. Comments and feedback welcome at: topic 3556 Changes in previous program updates here: http://85a.co.uk/forum/view_forum.php?id=20 Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Companion> Release notes> changes in version 224a about Templot ...
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... diamond):|1 in 8.00 RAM( 1 in 8.03 CLM) regular V-crossing|1 in 8.00 RAM( 1 in 8.03 CLM) K-crossing|equalized-constant timbering|------------|main-road centre-line radius=[ -1650.0] (constant radius)|diagonal-road centre-line radius=[ -1650.0] (regular half-diamond)|------------|adjacent track centres main side= 44.67|adjacent track centres turnout side= 60.67|angle at TXP crossover mid-point (CTRL-5)= 7.13 degrees( 1 in 8.0 RAM )| angle at TVJP turnout road vee joint (CTRL-6)= 7.13 degrees( 1 in 8.0 RAM )| -- -- -- -- -- -- |equivalent straight template dimensions BEFORE curving :|| overall length= 472.51| exit track in 60 ft rails/ 25 sleepers per length( rail ...
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... long Rivarossi main line coaches I seem to remember 100mm spacing with an inner curve of 6ft radius being safe. Maybe you could confirm that using your "dummy vehicle" part of Templot See http://www.morop.org/index.php/de/nem-normen.html Downloadable pdf from this page NEM 962 F Anlagen-Module Nenngröße 0- CDZ posted: 2 Mar 2019 18:06 from: Rob Manchester Hi, Just used the Dummy Vehicle option in Templot to look at the effect of rolling a 28m( protype) coach round adjacent tracks with the inner radius being 914mm and the centerline spacing to the outer one being 115mm as implied in the Lenz catalogue. 2001_021305_130000000.jpg Looks like there may be some sense in the wide spacing although not sure anybody will be building it like that Rob posted: 2 Mar 2019 19:41 from: Martin Wynne RogerW wrote: The MOROP.de gives 95mm as the recognised running lines spacing for 0 scale modular layouts. See http://www.morop.org/index.php/de/nem-normen.html Downloadable pdf from this page: NEM ...
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... hand-laid track throughout. Nigel posted: 14 Dec 2020 21:19 from: Nigel Brown I've been looking closely at pics of the Peco/EMGS B6 points, and comparing them with a Templot B6 point. One thing puzzles me. There are 9 timbers between the tiebar and the other end of the switches. Fine. Now on the EMGS point there are 5 slide chairs and 4 standard chairs. Looking at the Templot B6 this would bring the start of the flexible part of the switch perilously close to the adjacent stock rail, which I suspect would make it very hard to get adequate clearance between open switch and stock rail. Looking at the pics they seem OK. How? Have they altered the B6 geometry, e.g. by having a turnout road which diverges more sharply? Nigel posted: 14 Dec 2020 23:01 from: Martin Wynne Nigel Brown wrote: I've been looking closely at pics of the Peco/EMGS B6 turnouts, and comparing them with a Templot B6 turnout. One thing puzzles me. There are 9 ...
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... Jul 2018 18:01 from: Martin Wynne Thanks Rob. The 3D printing stuff is going over my head too. I'm still writing DXF code the same way I did in the 1980s. That's why I started this separate topic to cover the track design aspects. Here is something that will be possible. If you omit a timber when shoving, its chairs go too, as you can see. However, if instead you set its length to zero, making it invisible, its chairs remain unsupported on the rails. Adjacent long timbers can then be extended under them: 2_301256_010000000.png With the timbers invisible, shoving them along will be a way to slide the chairs along the rails to any desired position. 2_301320_510000000.png UPDATE: We now have the keys, and outer jaws on the S1 chairs. Gold-plated: 2_061704_070000000.png Notice the random key positions (and screw heads). There should be a corner radius around the top of the jaw, but I think I'm going to draw a line at this. I've used as much of the REA ...
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... also changed the box file title so it saves by default. To do this open the storage box and select the Edit drop down menu "box title (project title)" Good luck with your project. Tony. posted: 12 Sep 2017 10:18 from: John Palmer I have also had a go at the tandem and managed to ease the curvature so that I don't think any part of this formation has a curvature less than 59" in radius. Won't guarantee that I have successfully preserved all the alignments of adjacent track (in any case all the exits from the tandem have been transitioned), but there has been no substantial change to such alignments. There's also a bit of timber shoving still required. I have also inserted two traps into turnout TL 762. The stretchers on these would, no doubt, be operated by the same rodding connection as that driving TL 535. Attachment: attach_2489_3063_st_agnes_2017_09 _12_0939_24.box 237 posted: 12 Sep 2017 10:37 from: Andrew Howlett Martin, I was originally going to use Peco track, hence ...
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