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... Great Western special chairs. Each chair was measured on site and drawn full size ie.12" to the foot, please note there are some discrepencies with David Smiths book drawings in his book GW switch and crossing practice. Each chair foot print is drawn full size, I have omited check and wing rails as in model form these may vary according to scale and standards used. Also I shall be uploading photo's of each chair. I am starting with switch chairs. For those who are not au fait with GW practice each switch comprises of a number of slide chairs plus a loose heel chair before the fishplate and a 2S chair after the fishplate. Cheers Phil Attached file: switch_chairs.dxf. (click link above with right mouse button, then select Save Target As... or Save Link As...) posted: 30 Sep 2007 23:44 from: Phil O Hi Here is the first photo Cheers Phil 1_s2_chair.jpg posted: 30 Sep 2007 23:46 from: Phil O Hi Second Photo Cheers 2_loose_heel_chair.jpg posted: 30 Sep 2007 23: ...
... angle. Templot shows you where the joints are. HTH. Phil. Last edited on 6 Jul 2020 19:24 by Phil O posted: 6 Jul 2020 22:12 from: Martin Wynne Julian Roberts wrote: I think I ought to know what the rule or practical consideration is regarding rail joints at the exit of turnouts or diamonds. Is there normally a joint within a few sleepers, or can the next rail joint be up to 60 feet away from the V? Hi Julian, The point and splice rails comprising a vee are made to standard lengths in the crossing shop. What those lengths are will vary with different prototypes and crossing angles, so to be sure you have the joints in exactly the right place you would need to refer to the pointwork drawings for your prototype railway company. However, we think your track plan was renewed some time after grouping, so it is very likely, but not certain, that it was using standard REA components by the 1950s. Templot defaults to the REA standard dimensions, and you can ...
63. Winter 1963
... music was the whole point of making it, as the BFI bumf below explains. I think it's a great film. I hadn't seen it for years and I was delighted to find a high-quality version on YouTube, put there by the BFI. I'm not the only one. I posted it on another model forum and one response was "Fantastic Martin- good filming, excellent editing and wow, that sound-track!! I really enjoyed it." Here are the BFI notes from the YouTube page: Comprising train and track footage quickly shot just before a heavy winter's snowfall was melting, the award-winning classic that emerged from the cutting-room compresses British Rail's dedication to blizzard-battling into a thrilling eight-minute montage cut to music. Tough-as-boots workers struggling to keep the line clear are counterpointed with passengers' buffet-car comforts. In a mere half-dozen films released between 1959 and 1975, director Geoffrey Jones revealed himself as an outstanding talent, embracing industrial filmmaking as consistent with a personal ...
... Regards Richard posted: 28 Jul 2009 14:22 from: Alan McMillan Hi Richard I'll try to get it done for you before this evening. Alan posted: 28 Jul 2009 15:04 from: Martin Wynne Richard Lambert wrote: All this for a yard turnout! My build better do it justice Hi Richard, Alan, This is what you are trying to build. An exact replica would require custom switches in Templot and a lot of partial templates. It's all doable, but not quickly! Note that each switch comprises one long point blade (with undercut planing) and one short one (straight-cut joggled). There are 2 drives (point levers). Each stretcher bar is attached to one long switch blade, and through a hole in the other long blade to the opposite short blade behind it. The drives have to be moved in sequence. Each one must be returned to normal before you can reverse the other. The drawing shows both drives normal, so either can move as drawn. These switches are 12ft and ...
... and got this link Wikipedia link http://uk.ask.com/wiki/Railroad_switch which should give you a good bit of background explanation of turnouts and switches double and single. Then take look at Real Track in the companion. regards Les G posted: 13 Apr 2012 16:18 from: Martin Wynne Howard wrote: but what exactly is a single slip? Hi Howard, Slip roads are added to a diamond-crossing to provide a connection between the two tracks. slip_road.png A slip road (shown above in red) comprises a pair of switches, one of each hand, and the two rails linking them. A diamond-crossing with a slip road on one side is called a single-slip. A diamond-crossing with a slip road on both sides is called a double-slip. There are 3 possible routes through a single-slip, and 4 possible routes through a double-slip. But only one route can be used at any given time. If the side roads are completely outside the diamond-crossing, so ...
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... wing rails. This allows for the coning angle on the wheels as they run off the wing rail onto the nose, producing smoother running. You can see these features in the prototype here: 2_202055_480000000.png© Mick Nicholson with thanks Showing the blunt nose of the crossing vee supported on a timber, with the actual gauge intersection located between the timbers. The top of the vee nose is taken down slightly below the level of the wing rails, and rounded off. The end result is an accurately aligned vee matching the template and comprised of solid rail at the nose. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Jan 2011 02:18 from: BruceNordstrand Thanks Martin, time to invest in a disc sander me thinks, so much easier than filing My wife won't be happy but I'll just let her buy something as well posted: 21 Jan 2011 09:43 from: wcampbell23 Nicholas Geti wrote: It is true I have not done any spiking but I bought some tools to try. Since I am going to be building an outdoor O scale railroad, ...
... drawing of a Great Central three-throw which shows the centre blades are 3ft longer than the outer blades. Hi Mike, I think you mean this Great Eastern 3-throw? 2_280950_180000000.jpg The full-size original scan is easier to read (click the links): http://85a.co.uk/forum/view_gallery_single.php?display=ALL&page=175 The inner switch rails extend 2ft-6in beyond the outer ones. To follow the drawing exactly will require a full custom design with partial templates, because each switch comprises one long inner switch blade (with undercut planing) and one short outer one (straight-cut joggled). The inner 14ft-6in switch rails have a real heel, the outer 17ft switch rails have a virtual heel at the same position (12ft). The rail width isn't specified, but the planing lengths suggest it is 3", giving 5" heel offsets for 2" clearance. An exact match is possible only in S7. For GOG-F and 0-MF the switches need to be ...
... companion/ Start by clicking on either of the New User guides in the left hand menu. Rob posted: 14 Jan 2012 23:00 from: Martin Wynne grahambeare wrote: Where are beginners meant to start in regard to understanding how to use Templot? Hi Graham, It rather depends on what you want to use Templot for. Some beginners just want to print out some typical templates to practice model track building. Some beginners want to create a complete track plan of Crewe. Some beginners want to create a complex formation comprising 3 tandem turnouts, 2 outside slips and a scissors crossover, all laid out on a transition curve in metre gauge. Some beginners want to create an exact scale drawing of a Great Northern Railway (Ireland) 1:7.5 double slip for 5ft-3in gauge, 1938 pattern. However, most beginners start by reading through the Templot Companion pages at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/templot_gs.htm and by working through the "Track Plan" tutorial at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/tut5a.htm I'm ...
... what is the advantage? I still have to maintain a differential height and the distance between the junction and the crossing point has not changed. So the climbing gradient will be the same as the previous falling gradient. In addition, the falling gradient will become a climbing gradient for traffic leaving the Terminus. Jim, Thanks for your input. This plan is very much of a compromise. You may remember my thread, some months ago, asking for assistance with a mainline crossover. The idea was to have two rectangles each comprising of a double track with a series of turnouts to permit routing from one rectangle to another. The general scenario was to have one rectangle with third rail and the other with OHLE. This would provide the ability to change traction on through running trains. In all honesty, I like operational running as much as the construction side of the hobby. I will have the layout running scheduled traffic under computer control (RR&Co) with the operators fitting in manually controlled trains. This means that the operators must obey the ...
... above): output> output drawing options> track background colour... menu item. To save ink, the cess infill is shown hatched (on printers which support hatching): 2_060536_020000000.png 2_071626_150000000.png The trackbed edges function is available only in detail-mode. prefix tags: The remembered groups function has been replaced with a template tagging system. The template names can have one or more tags prefixed, which can then be used to re-create groups of templates at any time. This is especially useful for complex formations comprised of multiple partial templates. Click the group> add prefix tag to names... menu item: 2_011926_420000002.png start-up files: Files saved in the default folders with the name start.box or start.bgs will be automatically loaded on startup. This allows a quick start if you have a file containing custom templates. This is especially useful for the background shapes, since once defined these tend to remain unchanged while working on the track plan through several sessions. make-on-click mode: The Quick Mode option has been ...
... control on its menu. 2. Press CTRL+ 4 (once) to put the peg on the FP. 3. Click on the sample template which has the switch you want, either 11ft or 16ft-6in. 4. On its menu, click obtain to the control> obtain switch menu item. 5. Click main> store& background menu item. 6. Repeat for each turnout. please note as always that a "switch" in Templot, UK and Europe is only that part of a turnout comprising the moving points, not the entire turnout. I see that you have now posted on the Accu-Trak group about this. I think it would have been helpful to have waited for this reply first, although I understand your frustration. I now need to post a reply there to clarify some misunderstanding. regards, Martin. posted: 25 Feb 2011 12:12 from: BruceNordstrand Ok, definitely something going on somewhere... Just printed a #6 turnout from my plan and one directly from the USA ...
... plan from standard templates in a few minutes, or spend days creating a single template matching a specific prototype. Are you trying to match one or more individual templates exactly to the FastTrack jigs? To some commercial ready-made track? Are you trying to match one or more templates to a specific real prototype? Are you creating a track plan? To your design or a track plan copied from a book or magazine? To a track plan matching a real map? A track plan containing customized templates? A complex formation comprised of multiple partial templates? Templates for printing? Templates for export as DXF to CAD/CAM? Templot can do all of these things, but the best way of using it may differ for each. That's why it is difficult to give specific advice, and you may get conflicting replies from different users. Before saying what happened or seemed to happen, please explain clearly what you are trying to do. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) ...
... .... I await a knowledgable soul to point me in the right direction.... Cheers Bruce posted: 18 Dec 2010 07:59 from: Dave Summers Bruce This issue has been dealt with several times before. Setting a name for the .box file doesn't change the project title. To do that, see: topic 16 regards, Dave posted: 18 Dec 2010 08:08 from: Martin Wynne Hi Bruce, Templot doesn't use the Windows Document Model so the file name is irrelevant. The templates comprising your track plan can be loaded into the storage box from several different files. To change the project name printed on the templates, on the storage box click the edit> box title... menu item. Alternatively you can click session> project title... on the program panel, which does the same thing. That's actually the very first menu item on the very first window you see when starting Templot. If you want to change it, make sure you have loaded your templates first -- it's ...
... a lot of long timbers, although that crossover is at GWR standard 6'6" track spacing. In the accompanying text he mentions a 3' spread between the arms of the V as being the point at which sleepers start to be used on the straight roads, which might help. posted: 22 Apr 2010 07:17 from: David Hiya Nigel Thanks for the addition infomation, very informative. That diagram actually shows through timbers right back to the Closure Rails/Crossing joints. I have gone for more of a practical comprise, which I'm sure they would have on site. 1522_220214_580000000.png Thanks for every ones thoughts Regards Dave posted: 22 Apr 2010 08:33 from: Martin Wynne David wrote: That diagram actually shows through timbers right back to the Closure Rails/Crossing joints. Hi Dave, The limiting condition is not the position within the turnout, but the proximity of the adjacent rails outside the turnout. Long timbers tend not to be used where the space to the next set of rails is more than about 3ft-ish. Two ...
... just using the C&L plastic chairs glued to plastic sleepers. Also, does anyone make a V crossing jig as I have to make about 50 for my layout and to use the ready made C&L units would be rather beyond my pocket! posted: 5 Dec 2010 13:06 from: JFS You can't solder rail directly to PCB sleepers as they will support the rails at a lower height than the chairs. I always use small brass or N/S strips to secure the different bits of rail which comprise the crossings. These can then be secured to the (plywood) sleepers using Exopy. It has the advantage that the rails are electrically bonded in the process and makes very strong trackwork. I get the strip from fret waste chosen to support the rail at the same height as the chairs. (I did read an article- in MRJ?- where someone used PCB strip for this exact purpose- but why- no insulation is needed). You can see from the pic that I use chairs slipped on the ...
... I read that templates can me modified and the exported as .DXF or .DWG files that can be used in Autocad, is this correct? Thanks Bruce posted: 24 Oct 2010 20:53 from: Martin Wynne Bruce wrote: Are there templates for American railroads? I model 2-rail 0 scale and am interested in #6 through #12 straight and curved switches. Hi Bruce, Welcome to Templot Club. First and foremost, in the UK and Templot a "switch" is only that part of a turnout which comprises the moving switch blades (points), not the whole turnout. Consequently it is meaningless in Templot to refer to a #6 switch -- this is a #6 turnout: startup_pad.png If you refer to a whole turnout as a switch in the American style you will get in a terrible muddle in Templot. Templot can create any size or style of turnout, including American prototypes. Here for example is a screenshot showing some typical American turnout templates: h0_usa_turnouts.png The Templot data file for these can be downloaded from: ...
... is probably shorter than 1:8 and would have been OK for a fixed diamond in straight track. On the right the turnout in the yard has a couple of single-blade catch points within it acting as traps, and the curve is continuously check-railed. See: image #22907 regards, Martin. posted: 10 Oct 2010 17:52 from: lippydavies Junction is actually the exit from the former Arley loco holding sidings around towards Arpley sidings. Line the 60 is coming from is known as Latchford and comprises 2 runround lines one of which was formally the Cheshire Lines route to Skelton junction shut in early 1980s now part of the Transpennine cycle route. Lee posted: 10 Oct 2010 19:43 from: Jim Guthrie Martin Wynne wrote: On the left the double junction has a switch-diamond because of the severity of the curve, even though the angle is probably shorter than 1:8 and would have been OK for a fixed diamond in straight track. I would agree with that. I'm just in the process of ...
... space curves for running stock. Will I be able to modify the Templot switch templates to take into account the reduced gauge narrowing on my switches? Regards John posted: posted: 20 Aug 2010 16:32 from: Martin Wynne Templot User wrote: Will I be able to modify the Templot switch templates to take into account the reduced gauge narrowing on my switches? Hi John, Yes, but the first thing to say is that in Templot (and prototype practice) a switch is only that part of a turnout which comprises the moving points (blades), not the entire thing. You will get hopelessly lost in Templot if you refer to an entire turnout as a switch. startup_pad.png You can set up Templot for any scale, gauge and flangeway gap standards. There is a long list of pre-set gauge/scale combinations, but it is very easy to create your own custom settings. In fact the 7mm/31.5mm combination is already in there, with 1.5mm flangeways, designated 0-MF. This for use with the " ...
... of a turnout) is important because it affects the speed limits through it. Vehicles travelling on the main road see no sideways deflection and can continue at the line speed. Vehicles travelling onto the the turnout road are suddenly diverted to the left or right at the switch deflection angle. For the shorter switches this is a significant deflection and there is normally a severe speed restriction over the diverging road for this reason. At the V-crossing the hand of the turnout affects the physical design of the vee. The point rail comprising the actual vee nose is normally in the main road for strength under the heaviest traffic. The splice rail attached to the side of it is normally in the diverging road. Many modellers ignore this distinction when making model vees, but some take the trouble to get it correct. Templot continues the idea of handedness into plain track, to determine the hand of the resulting turnout if you insert one in the plain track. If the template remains as plain track the hand isn't very significant, although it does affect making double ...
... topic: 1127 Saving picture shapes posted: 21 May 2010 20:57 from: Templot User I am struggling a bit with Templot Shape-Files saving. My problem seems to be when I have a scanned track plan on the work top and at the end of the session when I want to Save work. When I go to the Control/Save all images it comes up with the Shape-Files save box and shows all the bgs files against a TEMPLOT logo. The list comprises all of the example files but none of my own, so I cannot save the current track plan. A message comes up saying it cannot find the file. I have tried to re-scan the track plan again following your tutorial but all I seem to get are saved scans in Shape-Files but under a different file name. If I navigate to the Shape-files and look at the list I can see the new track plan scans but they have the Microsoft Office Picture Manger logo next to each file. If I then go to ...
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