... . opening it in ProgeCAD Smart 2. saving in DXF R14 format 3. opening that in TurboCAD 4. saving in DXF R12 format with exploded blocks 5. importing into Templot: 2_070347_090000000.png What now? This is what I'm seeing in Edrawings, and also in ProgeCAD Smart: 2_070315_310000000.png 2_070316_310000000.png 2_070327_300000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 7 Jan 2016 09:18 from: Martin Wynne p.s. I can also get it into Templot by exporting from ProgeCAD as an EMF metafile, and importing that into Templot as a picture shape: 2_070414_100000000.png From which I can probably extract the metafile records, which could then be included in the DXF export. (This is what I'm currently experimenting with for the P4 templates which I mentioned earlier.) Martin. posted: 7 Jan 2016 17:38 from: Andrew Barrowman Hi Martin, Sorry it's getting so complicated. I found some info on blocks here http://www.autodesk.com/techpubs/autocad/acadr14/dxf/blocks_in_dxf_files_al_u05_c.htm I can see these block structures in the last file I posted, so that is ...