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... money, just not the time!) I was wondering if one can export a template to a program such as Corel, which I currently use as an interface with a laser cutter and Shopbot CNC router. This would allow "drawing" the track plan directly onto the plywood base or trackbed. Is this possible? Output options don't seem to include templates. Is this correct? regards Neil posted: 29 Apr 2015 04:18 from: Martin Wynne Hi Neil, For such applications you can export a CAD file (DXF) or a metafile image (EMF). See output> export a file... menu item. Sorry, I'm not familiar with Corel so you need to check which of these it can import -- DXF for preference. Note that you can't export the control template directly to DXF, you first need to store it as a background template if you are exporting single templates. regards, Martin. posted: 29 Apr 2015 11:51 from: nberrington Hi Martin- yep, it uses DXF. I'll ...
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... posted: 22 Mar 2012 14:37 from: Martin Wynne Ewerthon Mota wrote: There s a way to import the .rrw extension of train player to Templot? Hi Ewerthon, Sorry, there is no way to import files from any other software and have them converted to native track templates in Templot. The most you can do is to import files which can be displayed on the workpad as a background guide, over which you then create Templot templates in the usual way. There are 3 options for this: 1. DXF files from a CAD program can be imported into the background shapes function. If TrainPlayer can export DXF files this may be your best option: dxf_import1.png There is a page showing Templot tracks designed over a DXF import from XTrackCad at: rene_tandem Like this: rene_tandem4.gif Note that the tracks shown in grey are background shapes imported as DXF from XtrackCad, they are not Templot templates and cannot be adjusted using the usual Templot controls. 2. Image files (PNG, JPG, GIF) can be imported into the background shapes as ...
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... export a bitmap image of the required area from 3PI: 2_291302_320000000.png For the above image I set a width of 3000 pixels, it is also necessary to tick the lock aspect ratio box. Then import the image into Templot as a background picture shape. Here I have quickly aligned a 9ft-5 turnout over part of the above image: 2_291322_310000000.png But as you can see, zooming-in causes it to become blocky. This can make it tricky to create an exact match: 2_291324_050000000.png 2. Alternatively you can export a DXF file from 3PI and import this into Templot. This allows you to zoom in over it without losing precision, and link Templot track to individual DXF entities. So a question: are you running a 64-bit version of 3rd PlanIt, or a 32-bit version? The reason for asking is that the DXF export is available only in the 32-bit version (for reasons I don't understand). There is a note about this on Randy's customer page. He doesn't want the URL published, so here ...
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... slightly though. posted: 22 Sep 2019 13:08 from: Martin Wynne Jason Johnson wrote: I'll try the pdf export too, would you know why when it's exported as a cad file it scales up slightly? I was playing about and noticed the cad option which I then tried to use to cut the sleepers on a laser cutter. Unfortunately they didn't match the printed template. Sorted by scaling down slightly though. Hi Jason, Assuming you have set output> normal size 100%: Any scaling of an exported DXF file will be happening in your CAD program. Have a look at the DXF import options on there. Also for DXF make sure you have set the import for mm or inches accordingly. This information is not contained in the actual DXF file. For an exported EMF file in CAD, use the boundary rectangle option for the export, and enter the rectangle dimensions in the CAD for the import. You can see the dimensions by clicking the set... button on the export dialog. For a PDF file, ...
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... Godders, 1. if you want accurate calibrated printing the best option by far is to find someone running Templot connected to a good-quality ink-jet or large-format printer and get them to do it for you from your BOX file. Impress upon them that you expect them to calibrate their printer using the functions in Templot. Don't let them use a laser-printer, which will heat the paper causing differential shrinkage and generally poor precision. 2. failing that, the next best option is to export a DXF file from Templot, and send or take it to a specialised CAD printing firm for engineering drawings. There are not many such firms about, and it will be expensive. Impress upon them that you want precision printing for scaling purposes. They don't normally do that for ordinary engineering drawings, but they will at least know what you are talking about, and should be able to do it. They may want to do it on expensive drafting film instead of paper. 3. the fallback option is to export a PDF ...
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... topic: 3489 changes in version 223b posted: 19 Aug 2019 02:31 from: Martin Wynne Here is a summary of the changes in Templot update version 223b, released 10th July 2019. Despite the long interval since the last update this is mainly a maintenance update to fix some bugs. There are only a few function changes this time. That's because I'm mostly working on the 3-D DXF export for chairs and 3-D printing. It's proving a slow and daunting process. So much so that this update is actually a retrograde step in that the existing 3-D option for DXF exports is temporarily disabled (no change to 2-D DXF exports). I didn't want to wait any longer to release an update, and spend time reverting the work in progress. If anyone specifically needs the previous 3-D DXF export in the meantime please continue to use 219b, and defeat the internet check by means of the method given at: topic 3337 But there are a few changes in this update: 1. It ...
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... Leigh wrote: Rescaling (effectively halfing the size) was for paper saving measure...then I noticed you can print at the end you can print at a variety of sizes but actually it seems to have worked out well as I printed out a test at 33% Hi Mark, If you are not printing your wiring diagram 1:1 to match the finished track on the baseboard, it's questionable whether all the work of producing coloured partial templates in Templot is justified. You could instead: 1. Export a DXF file from Templot of the rails only, and open it in a CAD package. All the rails in the DXF output are made up from multiple short line entities which can be edited in CAD, using the selection fence method. Select the required lengths of rail and change their colour. Working in CAD then allows you to add all the other circuitry and wiring symbols very easily. This is a quick extract from TurboCad showing such editing: 2_040524_200000000.png Or for a smaller-scale wiring diagram you could 2. Print from ...
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... makes such chairs. regards, Martin. 100_310859_070000000.jpg Available in 7mm scale in packs of 16 or 80 from Off The Rails Regards, Dave R Last edited on 31 Mar 2015 14:09 by David R posted: 31 Mar 2015 16:28 from: Rob Manchester Hi Dave, Many thanks for the chair info. My current project is 4mm scale but I will bear your excellent products in mind for the future. What is the chance of being able to produce a 3D printed trackbase( timbers and chairs) from Templot DXF output? Rob posted: 1 Apr 2015 14:05 from: David R Rob Manchester wrote: What is the chance of being able to produce a 3D printed trackbase( timbers and chairs) from Templot DXF output? As far as I can recall Templot's DXF output is in a wireframe format (awaits correction by Martin...) and does not contain any chair information whatsoever. To translate the DXF into something suitable for 3d printing you would have to convert the wireframes describing the sleepers and timbers into surface models ...
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... topic: 572 Free CAD posted: 28 Sep 2008 10:24 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, Nowadays for 3D visualisation and walk-throughs of Templot tracks in your layout design, the obvious choice is Google Sketchup. But if you are looking for a more conventional CAD for use with Templot's DXF exports, a very powerful 2D/3D CAD package which is entirely free* is: ProgeCAD 2008 SMART (Proge is in Italy) It's based on the IntelliCad engine and uses AutoCad DWG/DXF as its native file format, so loading DXF exports from Templot is simple. Bearing in mind the cost of other full-featured CAD packages, this entirely free version is excellent and much more powerful than the other free and low-cost CAD programs available. There are some nag screens about upgrading to the Professional version when you first select several functions, but they all have "don't show this again" buttons -- so you are soon rid of them. *Free for personal/ non-commercial use only. Donations invited to ...
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... asking something of Templot that it probably was not designed to do, but I also thought I cannot be the first person to consider it! Any help would be appreciated. Mike posted: 27 Apr 2020 12:26 from: Martin Wynne Mike Kynaston wrote: but is there any way that the data from Templot (really just the outer edges of the sleepers would be fine) can be exported in a format that could be imported into the CAD software and placed in position? Hi Mike, Sure. You need the DXF export -- it's been available in Templot for 20 years! output> export a file... menu item. 2_051104_030000000.png The 3D exports are currently out of action while I'm working on 3D printing exports for the track. But all the 2D functions are working fine. Here's a bit of 2D Templot imported into a CAD program: 2_051111_310000000.png You can have as much or as little of the Templot output as you want in the DXF. See the help notes on the DXF dialog. For what you want you are ...
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... breaks through to the other side of the rail web leaving the rail head and flange unsupported. In real life I would not expect that the entire point is ground in this manner. How is it done? Hi Nicholas I guess you have not "served your time" using track spikes or soldered copperclad sleeper construction Printing- the printer settings can be saved- I have different settings for paper and card, for example. You are prompted to load the printer settings in the printer dialogue. Vector files- Templot exports in DXF format- very easy to do and works well. You can also export to a virtual printer if you want pdf files. Construction- this is essentially the same as using Fasttracks- the only difference is that the sleepering is not joined by a web. Templot is so much more flexible in what you can do. Filing switch blades- these should be filed on both sides of the rail so that you do not get the "breakthrough" that you describe. Have a look at this topic on RMweb- it ...
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... known features so I had a look round for them and tried them out. The ones I don't think are useful at all are: Paper bunching; Stay visible help text; zoom target ring and pad scalebar. Spot zoom seems useful but it's always into the middle of the pad which makes the zoom target ring redundant. Metric- Imperial- scale size calculators- yes keep that for as long as it doesn't interfere with the application's efficiency. The rest are nice features but I'm not too bothered if they go. However DXF Import and Export are the two features of Templot that should be retained to interact with other CAD software. Perhaps other CAD formats could be considered? posted: 3 Jul 2010 12:03 from: Martin Wynne Jonathan Wells wrote: I'd not been aware of these lesser known features so I had a look round for them and tried them out. The ones I don't think are useful at all are: Paper bunching; Stay visible help text; zoom target ring and pad scalebar. Spot zoom seems useful but it's always ...
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... too. I had assumed the .dxf output would include rail-foot. AFAICS it doesn't. I am a bit pushed for time to get a lot of baulks cut and BG track laid for an upcoming exhibition. Can I ask a pretty please to Martin to enable the rail-foot to .dxf in such a way that it appears in CAD as a separate layer? posted: 24 May 2016 08:19 from: Martin Wynne Hi Paul, At present the flat-bottom rail foot lines are not available in the DXF output, as you found. Sorry about that. I will see if I can get this fixed as soon as possible. Adding them to the RAILS layer wouldn't be difficult, but creating a new separate layer so that they can be exported separately is more work. Thanks for asking for this, the need for a separate layer hadn't occurred to me. You could perhaps try exporting only the rail centre-lines (in the generator settings, remember to rebuild), and have your CAD system widen the lines to ...
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... control, modifying it, and storing it again also re-numbers all the templates below it in the box. If you mean the part of the number after the dot, the only thing I can think that would change the numbering unexpectedly would be to swap a plain track template end-for-end. The numbers always start from the CTRL-1 end. Lots of other template changes affect the numbering of course, but you would know that you had made them. I can't reproduce any numbering mismatch between a DXF and a native Templot screen -- if none of the above explains what's happening perhaps you could send me the DXF and BOX files so that I can investigate? Thanks. Also wanted to see timber numbers on the screen, so went to pad, pad options, show timber numbers and the egg cup came up but nothing appears to have changed on the screen. Any ideas? pad> pad options for the control template> show timber numbers menu item puts the numbering on for the current/control template only. ...
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... all! Can somebody tell me if there is a possibility to find out the amount of sleepers of a ready to build Templot plan classified into lengths of the sleepers? George posted: 15 May 2008 12:51 from: richard_t georg.kautzsch wrote: Hi all! Can somebody tell me if there is a possibility to find out the amount of sleepers of a ready to build Templot plan classified into lengths of the sleepers? George I don't think there is. I was going to write a program that worked it out from a DXF export, but my *real* work has got in the way somewhat. It would output a text/CSV file with the number of sleepers by width and length. Richard. posted: 15 May 2008 15:07 from: Brian W Lewis richard_t wrote: georg.kautzsch wrote: Hi all! Can somebody tell me if there is a possibility to find out the amount of sleepers of a ready to build Templot plan classified into lengths of the sleepers? George I don't think there is. I was going to write ...
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... topic: 939 DXF/ Render Bug posted: 21 Sep 2009 17:28 from: JFS Martin, Not sure if this is a little glitch or a setting error I have made or just a "feature" of my 3D rendering software (ProgeCAD), but in the attached image, you can see that none of the K Crossing checkrails have rendered- they appear to have lost their top faces. Also, I notice that the slip road switches on the double slip have failed to materialise. Not at all a big issue even if it is a bug, but thought I would ask anayway. Best Regards, Howard Attachment: attach_653_939_Track_Render.jpg 124 Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> I found a flaw> DXF/ Render Bug about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of ...
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... numeric input, so you get a lot of 47.96 inch baseboards! Now on Templot I have traditionally exported the track plan to my 2D CAD package( Draftsight) and then proceeded to compute the baseboards in that package The only issue there is the rather laborious to-ing and fro-ing when I need to modify the track templates where I discover baseboard boundary issues I have used the background shapes features in Templot and they are great, the main issue is the lack of polygon drawing I know its possible to import a DXF background shape, but havent tried that yet I also know the sketchpad can be used but I dont find that as good as the background shapes any suggestions ?, It would be" Nice" to be able to draw and edit multi sided polygons as background shapes or maybe I'm missing a way to do it easily in Templot thanks as always Dave Last edited on 12 Feb 2018 22:17 by madscientist posted: 12 Feb 2018 22:39 from: Martin Wynne madscientist wrote: any suggestions?, It would be ...
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... topic: 979 Laser Cut Templates posted: 23 Nov 2009 14:47 from: Donald MacLean I have seen posts on the forum regarding availability of laser cut sleeper configurations for complex track sections. (C& L) My (convoluted) question is this. As 'printed' templates can be developed showing only inner stockrail faces and crossing vees, is it possible to derive CAD-type (DXF?) machine readable outputs of specific point formations so that 'physical' templates could be cut out of wood or plastic of appropriate thickness? This would simplify the accurate fixing of the outer rails and crossing. I realize that this would only benefit those who are content with using a sub-set of 'standard' templates. In my case straight B-6s, and curved B-8s. But as I will need about thirty sets of points on my 'new-and-improved' layout it would appear a cost effective way of proceeding. [I am using Canadian 'FastTrack' filing jigs to prepare the crossing vees and points planing.] ...
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... topic: 1891 TurboCAD 19 3D rendering posted: 29 Mar 2012 14:37 from: Ian Allen Chaps, I'm using a trial version of the above software package, yet when I export a DXF. from Templot into it, it renders everything as a skeleton rather than solid, even when I click the relevent 3D and solid boxes in the DXF generator. Am I missing something? Ian posted: 30 Mar 2012 09:32 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian, DXF 3D export to TurboCad is working here -- here's a quick curviform ladder from Templot2, no timber shoving done (isometric view): 2_300426_070000000.gif Did you change to solid rendering in TurboCad -- the default 3D setting is normally for wire-frame view. Or maybe solid rendering isn't available in the trial version? regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> TurboCAD 19 3D rendering about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A- ...
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... draw them for you. Here's a bit of printed template showing the result: 2_080442_440000000.png As you can see, trackbed edges apply to plain track and turnout main roads only. Templot is not too intelligent about this and leaves you to mark the turnout-road side yourself and scribble out any unwanted overlapping marks before cutting. But it's still a lot quicker than marking all the edges yourself. There's rather more to this than meets the eye -- here are the full Help notes from Templot. In particular note the trick via DXF to get the trackbed edges as part of your baseboard outlines in the background shapes:____ Trackbed Width If you are using open-top baseboard construction, this function draws cutting lines on each side of the track for your trackbed material. Enter a dimension in mm for the width between the trackbed edge lines. The pre-set dimension is equivalent to a full-size trackbed width of 15ft at your current scale. The trackbed edge lines are drawn if the GENERATOR> GENERATOR SETTINGS> TRACKBED EDGES menu ...
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