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... neighbour... 412_181208_140000000.jpg What am I doing wrong? posted: 18 Jul 2020 18:22 from: Martin Wynne Alan McMillan wrote: Hi I'm having real bother with this one. I'm trying to create swiss jointed track. What am I doing wrong? Hi Alan, You are living dangerously -- Templot has a hard-coded limit of 52 sleepers per rail length. If you wanted more than that it would mean a lot of faff with bonus timbers. a few points: 1. you can enter mm instead of inches by prefixing with a letter m. i.e. enter m600 to enter the spacing instead of 23.62" 2. I guess the sleepers are actually 250mm wide, so the first spacing is 125mm. 3. 51 sleepers means 50 spaces of 600mm= 30000mm. 4. plus 2 x 125mm= 30250mm rail length -- enter m30250 for rail length. 5. then enter m125 spacing and 50 spacings of m600. 6. don't enter the final 125mm. p.s. are you sure it's not 50 sleepers per ...
122. Are you using Vista?
... using? Did you install 074b first and then a later Pug, or did you just install the Pug and create your own shortcuts? Do any strange messages appear from Windows or Microsoft while using Templot? Does the "restore previous session" function work ok on startup? Assuming you are not using 091a (if so please upgrade to 091b), have you had any difficulty saving files to the default location( C:\TEMPLOT\BOX-FILES )? Or does the Save dialog insist on using only My Documents instead? I know I shall have to get a Vista computer eventually to test and fine-tune Templot, but I was hoping to wait until the initial bugs in Vista have been fixed. Many thanks for your help. regards, Martin. posted: 24 Sep 2007 01:20 from: John Lewis Martin Wynne wrote: I know I shall have to get a Vista computer eventually to test and fine-tune Templot, but I was hoping to wait until the initial bugs in Vista have been fixed. Martin Is ...
123. Is my Slip workable?
... opinion EDIT: just noticed the slip rails have disappeared, not sure why, but I'll have a go at putting them back! cheers Ian Attachment: attach_1223_1673_4gig2_slip.box 303 Last edited on 1 Nov 2011 11:10 by RedgateModels posted: 1 Nov 2011 16:27 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian, 1:4 is too short for an inside slip. The radius would be too tight and constructing the K-crossings would be extremely difficult. The usual way to deal with such a situation is to use an outside slip instead, like this: 46_060821_570000000.jpg Your plan includes some A-4 turnouts. An A switch is really too long for a 1:4 V-crossing. You would get an easier radius, and have shorter turnouts to save some space, by changing to a 9ft straight switch instead. That's at template> switch options... menu item. Your file contains 106 templates of which 91 are unused. If the unused ones are no longer wanted you can remove them by clicking the box> delete unused templates menu ...
124. Catenary
... I have attached it below. To represent the overhead wires you could use dummy centre-line only templates. Or maybe use the draw with mouse function in the background shapes. There is also a function in the spacing-ring tool to draw background shape lines between specific locations. regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_1201_1657_ole_masts_EM.box 225 posted: 19 Oct 2011 10:36 from: Brunnhaus Thanks for replies up to now! Martin, would it work, if I adjust the trackbed values for N-scale to e.g. 4mm instead 25mm? would the lines be correctly indicated or might occur unexpected reactions? The answer for Robs questions is: My gauge is 9mm european fiNescale. My station with 7 tracks is Rosenheim (Bavaria) from 1858, so no catenary at that time. I designed the trackwork totally through templot and built it on the printed plan with sleepers and flat bottom rails from The 2mm Association. The station is 4m long and 1,4m wide. You find some picture e.g. here: http://www.c-martens.de ...
125. Single slips
... topic: 2496 Single slips posted: 30 Jul 2014 11:44 from: Trevor Walling Hello, I have moved this topic here as I think I had put it in the wrong place previously. I have reached the stage where I need to produce a template or templates for the single slip roads to form a trailing crossover for up and down lines. I have started on the up road slip but I seem to be hitting the buffers so to speak.I followed the tutorial for a single slip but instead of swapping the turnout hand I have inverted it.It sort of works but I seem to end up with extra lines at the switches and confusion. Any help would be most appreciated please as I seem to be at an impasse.I think once I have mastered this first slip I should be able to complete the other.I also enclose the box file.2110_291142_090000000.png Thanks. Trevor. Attachment: attach_1893_2496_upslip_crossover .box 254 posted: 30 Jul 2014 12:10 from: Martin Wynne Hi Trevor, You moved it while I was preparing a reply! Hi Trevor, You have used ...
... topic: 1652 DXF output file title& timber numbers questionable posted: 12 Oct 2011 18:58 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Martin, Just thought I would report these two items which do not seem quite right, regarding DXF output files from the TDV. 1. The template number overlaps the timber numbering, (see attached file). 2. The template title is displayed right across the middle of the file, instead of, perhaps, just above or just below the drawing. I have attached a sample DXF file for you viewing. All the best, Brian Nicholls. Attachment: attach_1198_1652_LNWR_12ft_Switch _Demo_mm.dxf 266 posted: 12 Oct 2011 20:52 from: Martin Wynne Brian Nicholls wrote: 1. The template number overlaps the timber numbering, (see attached file). 2. The template title is displayed right across the middle of the file, instead of, perhaps, just above or just below the drawing. Hi Brian, The timber numbers are overlapping because the font is too large. Go to output> output drawing options> ...
... I would bet a few bob on it. Often when the number base is not 10, the fractional dot is moved up to the middle position like this: 5 9. Does the drawing perhaps show that? Hi Martin, You've got me guessing now, I have just looked at some of the drawings again, very closely by zooming in on the dimension detail. Unfortunately, for me that is, the notation on the drawings for places where the decimal fractions are indicated, may well be a short "dash" instead of a dot, as I have said the drawings are not of good quality, the "dash" may well represent parts of a foot as you suggest eg. 9/12, and could be (possibly is) shown as eg. 1 in 5-9, representing 1 in 5+ 9/12 and a crossing angle of 1 in 5.75. Now there is no written statement on the drawings I have looked at so far, that this is indeed the case, but I have a sneaking feeling ...
... in the storage box (the brown up-down buttons) so that the templates with cess are at the top of the list and so get drawn first. The timbering will still get blanked out on subsequent templates, but not the rails, so the template is likely to be still usable. Alternatively do you really need black& white? The grey-shades option produces much neater templates, and doesn't use coloured ink. Or you could print from Templot in colour and set the monochrome option on the printer's own setup instead. It is in fact working as intended -- it is a complex issue. Templot is now an old program. The black& white printing shares many of the settings for old dot-matrix impact printers (having an ink ribbon), and for old-style liquid pen plotters. The reason the colour and grey-shades print appears to have transparent cess is that it has a hatched infill instead of solid colour. Not all printers support hatched infill, especially older ones. The reason black& white printing ...
... . The big fly in that ointment is the copyright and licensing restrictions on most mapping and aerial imagery web sites. But that doesn't apply to OpenStreetMap (OSM), so I have had a go at loading the OSM map tiles directly, with promising results. The first requirement is to specify the location, and for the UK the easiest way is to use the OS Grid Ref: 2_222110_340000001.png Of course that doesn't work for the rest of the world, so I shall have to add an option to enter latitude/longitude instead. But the OS grid numbers are far more brain-friendly -- they are easily found by going to this map: http://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk Next Templot needs to know how much area of map you want. That is specified in the equivalent model size, so it's important to have set your gauge/scale before doing this: 2_222110_340000000.png Templot then does some quite complex maths (maps are flat, the Earth's surface is curved), and loads all the necessary OSM tiles as background picture shapes. This is ...
130. File names etc
... could use it if they wished. But I made no attempt to follow Windows conventions because at the time I had no idea what they were (and wasn't very impressed when I found out). I was simply faced with a brand new unknown computer and a program which I wanted to make work on it. Nothing much has changed in the subsequent years and isn't now likely to. There are others with more Windows software experience who have written similar programs, and clearly if full Windows compliance is important those could be used instead. For example Jeff Geary has created Trax3, and there is S21 ModelGleis from Bernd Steimann and Christian Sender. However, I don't believe Templot is difficult to use provided you don't start off expecting it to be something which it isn't. In the early days most folks had much smaller screens, and keeping as much of it as possible clear for track design was important. So for example the mouse action panel can be hidden from view if it is in the way (the Delete key toggles it, or simply click ...
... idea was that you create a solder fillet on the outside to represent the chair jaws. For use with cosmetic plastic chairs the rivets need to be exactly under the rail centre, so you may find that you need to take the corners off the rivets with a Dremel disc to get the chairs to fit snug. But the best solution is to drill or punch your own holes in the right place. There is a trick you can use in Templot to help. If Templot is set to print the rail centre-lines instead of the rail edges, you get the rivet positions for riveted plywood construction, where the rail centres cross the timber centres, like this: rivet_centres.png This shows a crossover in EM. One turnout has the more usual style of rail detail for comparison. Click the generator> generator settings> rails> rail centre-lines only menu option, then rebuild the required templates as a group (or all of them), before printing them. Print on tracing paper (which works fine in an inkjet printer if you load ...
... reason for the centre-line template is a background template is because I saved it, so that I could look at the affected template. Template 45 in the box file. Box file hopefully attached. Thanks Phil Attachment: attach_2402_3002_00sf_minories_201 7_03_31_1432_57.box 253 Last edited on 31 Mar 2017 19:11 by Phil O posted: 31 Mar 2017 21:12 from: Martin Wynne Hi Phil, Thanks for the .box file. The reason for the problem is that you have the turnout-side adjacent track centres set to only 32mm (instead of the 44.67mm minimum), with the turnout-road exit length set to crossover (for the mid-point of a crossover). You can either: a. change the the adjacent track spacing to a more suitable dimension, or b. set geometry> turnout-road exit length> normal. I will look at adding a warning when the track spacing is set very small, thanks for reporting it. p.s. if you want the centre-line for double track, without changing the track spacing settings ...
... 982_180556_180000000.jpg The whole base against a standard Templot template, differing sleeper spacing, sizes and missing the last heal timber posted: 18 Apr 2017 12:15 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, Bear in mind that Templot templates are not a fixed design. You get what you enter in the settings. In order to get an exact match to prototype REA bullhead design you need to set: 1. P4 gauge, or preferably EXACT scale (in the gauge/scale dialog). 2. Change to CLM crossing angle (instead of the default RAM). 3. Set a generic type V-crossing. (Or if a crossing entry straight is shown in the REA tables, set a regular type V-crossing and adjust the entry straight to match) The "natural" turnout sizes will then match the REA bullhead designs quite well (bearing in mind that there are small differences between the railway companies). Here for example is a Templot curved B-8 crossover laid over the Exactoscale templates: s4_soc_b8_curved_crossover_print_1 .png More about that here: ...
... . You've quoted 00-SF as having "better running" than full gauge 00 many times. But the only difference is negative gauge widening thru turnouts. What's your reasoning on that? The NMRA gauge widening allowance is large compared to most. And I think far more so than for P4. It certainly was never intended ever to be merely the universal maximum gauge tolerance, although that condition was not very clearly published for many years. So for wheels that stray too far away from the Vee side, the wing rail instead catches them harder, not necessarily slightly at speed, adding to the bumping effect of that and the wrong end of the coning leaving the wing rail top earlier. Typical US H0 freight car trucks are very short wheelbase, so can skew across the track more when the gauge is wider, also making the bumping of any checking rails more more forceful, especially when pushing. Of course any random GW around the point tips (and in our case point heel hinges) just adds more complications with greater throw bar movement needed ...
135. F7 snapping
... F7 etc. Hi Richie, The short answer is don't use F7 snapping. It annoys me so much that I came close to removing it altogether. It is intended only for raw beginners, which is why I left it on when used from the beginner buttons, but not otherwise. But if you are far enough into Templot to be using the keyboard shortcuts, please use the snap functions if you need them from each template's peg/align tools functions. There are far more options, and they are under your control instead of taking you by surprise when not wanted. The more you get into Templot the more annoying F7 snapping becomes, especially when working with partial templates. Oh one other thing, not really a problem, but some of the menus on my 15" laptop are taller than the screen and don't scroll properly, just thought i'd flag it up in case nobody else had! Do you mean the drop-down menus? They are controlled by your Windows screen settings, Templot has very little* control over them. To ...
... . change the turnout to a flatter V-crossing angle, 2. set a curviform V-crossing. (Click the green R at top left of screen, change it to C. Have the peg on CTRL-0 first.) 3. click the tools> make ladder crossover> make curviform ladder menu item. 4. click the tools> make branch track menu item. You may need some trial and error on the turnout angle and position to get the desired result. If you attach your .box file instead of a screenshot, I can be more specific and try some sizes for you. regards, Martin. posted: 12 Apr 2017 16:00 from: Panos Tsirigotis Here is the Box File.Thank you in advance Martin Wynne wrote: Hi Panos, There is a video showing how to insert an irregular diamond-crossing into a transition curve: help> watch a video> Scruff Video Andrew transition diamond menu item in Templot. But it is not really intended for beginners. (If you can't play the FBR videos, ...
... topic: 2975 214a changes- crop/combine picture shapes posted: 30 Jan 2017 14:15 from: Martin Wynne crop/combine picture shapes This new function in 214a is used to crop or combine one or more picture shapes. A single picture shape can be cropped smaller, or several picture shapes can be combined into a single picture shape. The advantage of having a single picture shape instead of several is that it can be more easily shifted to a new position, twisted, re-sized, wrapped onto a curve, etc. Or a large image can be cropped to a smaller more convenient size for faster zooming. It can also be easily turned on and off on the trackpad by clicking the show on trackpad tickbox (also new in 214a), or by double-clicking it on the list. Here 2 screen-grabs from OS 25" maps have been scaled (sized) to match, and aligned one over the other. A new background rectangle shape has then been drawn over them (the red rectangle) ...
... slot cut in it) then use a linisher( vertical belt sander) to shape the rail to what ever angle you require. Hi Sonnie, Worth a lot more than 2d. Great minds think alike! This is essentially what I'm suggesting to Charles. The mill can be used to make some hardwood jigs for use on a sander. A faceplate disc sander can be improvised on a small lathe* if you protect the bed and working parts with masking tape and oiled newspaper (the oil makes the sandings stick to it instead of vibrating off). The advantages of sanding over milling are that the cutting forces are very much reduced so that a wooden jig is fine and the work can be held and fed to the disc by hand if necessary. It's much faster than milling and in addition there are no cutters to sharpen -- just peel off the worn abrasive paper and stick on a new piece with double-stick tape. "Wet-or-dry" abrasive paper is available from car bodywork places. *Remove the lathe toolpost ...
... Guthrie RedgateModels wrote: Hi Bill, tried a couple of very short 1:4 points today, but they won't fit. There is a baseboard joint at the 7 foot mark and because of the track separation between the platform road and the run-round I need a short straight section between the existing point and it's pair in the crossover, pushing it too far across. Nice thought though... There's nothing to stop you putting a turnout across a baseboard gap if that would help matters if you use two turnouts instead of a slip. If you get the gap sited between the heel of the switch and the crossing nose of a turnout, it just means that you have four rail joints to deal with rather than two. I don't know where your baseboard joints are exactly. Do you have a BGS file of the baseboard outlines? Jim. posted: 4 Jan 2012 08:59 from: RedgateModels Good point, the baseboard joint is on the 7 foot mark on the plan. The adjoining baseboard already exists and track is laid ...
140. Straights and bends
... earlier advice and created the S-bend by slewing a straight piece of track. Many thanks. Ray. posted: 6 Jan 2012 17:47 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ray, Now that I can see what you are doing, I would advise against using a slew for that. The slewing geometry isn't really intended to have an entire station throat inserted in it. In any event, you don't actually have straight track at the top -- the running line is curved -- so a slew doesn't fit. Instead you can do what you want with 3 transition curves: 2_061236_470000000.png Your pointwork can be inserted in the middle template. The running line radius at the left was too sharp, so I eased it to 750mm (still tight in 4mm scale). If you say what gauge you are using, and the exact dimensions of your original image, I will post a .box file. I did this very quickly in EM. regards, Martin. posted: 6 Jan 2012 18:29 from: r_wilton Hi Martin. Sorry ...
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