... . You also do not want the end of your point blade floating in space over a gap where it could get damaged, so the blade ends over a sleeper and the tie bar fits between the first two sleepers after the tip of the point blade. From reading the Rorum I have learnt that all the railways were different up to nationalisation (and probably kept to old practices thereafter) so if possible look at pictures of the line you are modelling to see how they laid out their sleepers. Tony corrected my plan for Kingsmere. He said that where possible the sleepers were interlaced with only the critical ones being extended across two tracks (presumably to reduce cost and to use standard parts?) so if you compare the sleepering round the station throat in my original plan and after Tony has tweaked it you will see the improvements he has made. I hope that is of some help. Arthur posted: 4 Feb 2012 21:06 from: Tony W Katier wrote: Thanks Tony, The question about timber shoving is mainly why when and where ...