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... a negative main road radius of -7402mm. 3. 01:30- 02:30 So make the 2nd turnout current and slide the peg along the turnout-road crossing rail until it is somewhere near the middle crossing. The exact position does not matter. Store it again, and set a distinctive marker colour (optional). Bat its name label out of the way (optional). 4. 02:30- 04:00 Get a new turnout template and set the curving to -7402mm, as previously determined. (Alternatively you could adjust it later to align, using F6 mouse action.) Temporarily turn off the timbering. Guess a near size for the crossing angle, here I set 1:4.5. Select the longest switch available. This is a temporary suggestion until gaunt turnouts are available in a later pug. (I will expand on this separately.) I set a 30ft straight switch. Change the V-crossing to "curviform" so that the radius on each side can differ (this is important ...
... the results of some timber shoving: long_timber_shoving.png regards, Martin. posted: 2 Feb 2009 13:44 from: Martin Lloyd What would the maximum length likely to be for such timbers? They were obviously an expensive item. Martin (Lloyd) posted: 2 Feb 2009 14:40 from: Martin Wynne Martin Lloyd wrote: What would the maximum length likely to be for such timbers? They were obviously an expensive item. Hi Martin, Crossing timbers were normally available to designers in lengths from 8ft-6in (or previously 9ft in pre-grouping times) in increments of 6in up to 30ft. The very long timbers were expensive, and different companies had different rules about how many could be used. Some were very sparing with long timbers. Comparing an LNER drawing for a crossover with a GWR equivalent, you can see the latter used far more long timbers and produced much more heavily-timbered formations generally. Sometimes where a long timber was required it was made up on site by halving and splicing two shorter ones, using bolted- ...
... topic: 740 Bawtry ECML Inter-war posted: 22 Feb 2009 16:11 from: Andrew Fendick A few years ago I became interested in modelling again, after a break of 20 years or more (work, family, you know how it goes, there never seams to be time for the really important things). I was looking round for a suitable source of inspiration when I came a across a book my father had purchased several years previously, Return to Bawtry by Jack Smith (The Waterdale Press, 1992, ISBN 0 906976 33 2). Jack Smith spent 13 years at Bawtry, where his father was Station Master from 1930. I had lived at Bawtry during the 1980's but until I read this book I hadn't thought of using it as the prototype, the station at the time I lived there having been closed for many years. The book showed a busy little station with local passenger workings to Doncaster and Grantham, a goods yard, coal train loops and storage sidings, and main line express trains thundering past. ...
204. Pug progress report
... in "diagram mode" or the existing "template mode". Diagram mode is a simplified output suitable for published track plans, signal box diagrams, control panels, and similar. None of these functions is yet finished, but I have made significant progress in recent weeks. Templot Sketchbook is new separate function within Templot -- almost a separate program in its own right. It's a mini desktop-publishing/drawing package, which will allow the creation of colourful layout plans, control panels and diagrams directly within Templot. Previously it was necessary to export a DXF file and do this sort of thing in a separate CAD program. Here's an example of what can be done in Templot Sketchbook: defynnog.png Here's a screenshot showing Templot Sketchbook in use: sketchbook_draft.png I have zoomed and resized it to match the underlying track plan on the pad. The yellow scales top and left show the actual printed page size. In this example the area is 260mm wide by 180mm high, i.e. an easy fit on A4 or US Letter paper in landscape format. ...
... that the pointwork is correct. Many thanks. I visited the Birch Coppice railfreight terminal last week and as there is a public footpath right in front of the terminal and over some of the approach track I was able to take some pictures of the trackwork*. All of the S&C work was flatbottom rail on woodern timbers, but it's a fairly new terminal, and we think it's been relaid recently as the industrial units are popping up at a rate of knots and it looks different to some of the photographs we'd previously seen. I'll see if I can at least work out the switch sizes from my photographs tonight. Richard.* Just a quick note to say the terminal was shut for the night, with gates to the terminal firmly locked and the only locomotive present (56303) swithched off. The line has been closed (and is closed until Wednesday this week) due to landslips on the line to the terminal. posted: 10 Mar 2009 11:57 from: richard_t I've attached a copy of the one of the switches ...
... have this done? Sent over a week ago... Cheers Bruce Hi Bruce, Yes email received last Sunday. I wasn't able to look at it until Tuesday, I was in Sydney for a couple of days. I have downloaded your box file, and also read over your previous threads to familiarise myself with your project. I see no problem. I was a bit surprised at the 'packing density' of timbering on US track (which I am not at all familiar with). I note that you have previously laid Fasttracks bases for this layout which as I understand come pre-drilled for spikes. Is this a requirement? I will be contacting you over the weekend. Best regards Mike posted: 31 Jul 2009 15:14 from: BruceNordstrand Hi Mike Thanks for letting me know. Sorry if I sounded a little impatient, I did not intend to be, am just frustrated with my ISP at the moment and the many emails that have disappeared into the ether. I look forward to your contact whenever you can. On ...
207. BR steam on Pandrols
... topic: 826 BR steam on Pandrols posted: 21 May 2009 13:18 from: Martin Wynne I have previously mentioned the difficulty of finding pictures of original BR steam running on FB track with Pandrol clips. For example in this message about mixing BH and FB track http://groups.yahoo.com/group/templot/message/7184 I said "steam over Pandrols= no, unless you have some photographic evidence for your prototype". So thanks to Adam on RMweb for finding these pictures from Eastleigh in 1967. Click "Original" size to see that they really are Pandrol clips: http://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/2364558166/sizes/m /in/set-72157603696486994/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/2282464574/sizes/m /in/set-72157603696486994/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/2364558278/sizes/m /in/set-72157603696486994/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/barkingbill/2363726105/sizes/m /in/set- ...
... you use the storage box to redraw the screen, by dragging it over the template, if you see what I mean). No biggie, I won't use a: This is templot version 0.91c Richard. Last edited on 11 Jun 2009 20:07 by richard_t posted: 11 Jun 2009 20:06 from: richard_t Actually I'm now not sure the: has anything to do with it, as I've renamed another with a -, and that name isn't display properly either. But perhaps it's because I've used a: previously? posted: 11 Jun 2009 20:41 from: Bruce Wilson I think you will find that special characters such as: and- can not be used in file names. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177506 may be of some help Bruce Wilson Barrie ON posted: 11 Jun 2009 21:00 from: richard_t Bruce Wilson wrote: I think you will find that special characters such as: and- can not be used in file names. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177506 may be ...
... topic: 888 Admin: Posting messages to Templot Club by email posted: 2 Jul 2009 12:29 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, Following some confusion today I have decided to change things. Previously if you posted a message to Templot Club by email it actually came to me and I have been entering it on the forum for you. This was quite time-consuming to do but I thought it worth doing to help folks who couldn't access the web site for whatever reason. However, it's clear that it caused much confusion and that many folks have just been dabbing "Reply" in their email programs without reading the text asking them not to. So I regret that it is no longer possible to post messages to Templot Club by email. To post a message you must visit the Templot Club web site. If you are reading an email from Templot Club there is always a link at the top of the email to take you straight to the relevant page on the web site. You can then either click the Reply buttons on ...
... lapped turnout in real life. Cheers Bruce posted: 12 Jul 2009 03:50 from: BruceNordstrand Any chance of a picture? It's quite difficult to visualize what you are trying to do. Do you have some pictures or drawings of your prototype track with the point tips adjacent to the frog vee? Martin I managed to find something similar on Google books, these are commonly called lap turnouts. The one pictured is slightly different in as much as the switch points are deep into the containing turnout. Like I have said previously, I have seen similar turnouts to mine in backwoods US railroads, I just have to find the pics Cheers Bruce Attachment: attach_589_897_Picture_9.png 514 Last edited on 12 Jul 2009 03:53 by BruceNordstrand posted: 12 Jul 2009 03:51 from: BruceNordstrand Whoops, double post- Martin, please delete when you have a spare moment. Last edited on 12 Jul 2009 03:52 by BruceNordstrand posted: 12 Jul 2009 09:23 from: Martin Wynne BruceNordstrand wrote I managed to find something similar on Google books, ...
... As in Figure 10 in my instruction document. You will need to ZOOM in very close to the centre line crossing point, then re-select F5 in order to accurately position the half diamond centre lines. Do not worry about one of the half diamond centre line not quite lining up with the centre line of Guide Curve, as this is not significant at this time, but do ensure the crossing point centre is correctly aligned by the other half diamond centre line. This will now give you an overlapping template to that previously set down, we must now remove the vee end of this new template. Now, un-set< geometry>< track centre-lines>. Next use< action>< mouse actions: geometry>< adjust overall turnout length (F4) >, and adjust the length of diamond until it just meets the blanked section of the previous template. Now remove all rails, crossing vee and joint marks, except for the main-road crossing rail, main-road stock rail and the main road check ...
... of wing rail bends on one of them, the bend appears to be, I can only describe as, 'joggled', as shown in the screenshot of the attached GIF file. Now this particular Vee crossing has the following data: 9 ft. straight heel right-hand switch (unjoggled) 1 in 2.76 RAM curviform V-crossing( 1 in 2.85 CLM) (I know Templot suggests that such small angles not be used[ less than 1: 4], but the layout dictated this). Also as previously reported, I have recently received some copies of original LNWR civil engineering drawings of their Vee crossings and diamond crossings, and they go right down to prototype angles of 1: 2 !!! I have also included in the attached GIF file another screenshot of a similar angled diamond vee crossing, but this one appears to be OK and is not 'joggled', details of this vee are shown below: 9 ft. straight heel left-hand switch (unjoggled) 1 in 3.71 RAM curviform V-crossing( 1 ...
213. Outside Single Slip
... topic: 2369 Outside Single Slip posted: 1 Jan 2014 12:55 from: Michael Woolford A while back, I started manually draughting (using templates) the trackwork for my new layout. This involved determining the position of turnouts and once happy, sticking the templates to a large roll of paper and penciling in the plain track. Only partially complete, it is a very time consuming process and mistakes/alterations take a long time to redraw (especially if the paper is damaged when removing a previously stuck sown template). All of my turnout templates were obtained from the EMGS and C&L. The C&L templates include an outside single slip with crossing angles of 1 in 4.5 and 1 in 6.5. If possible I would like to attempt a draft of the trackwork in templot to assess the feasibility of the layout in terms of space and geometry. I have searched the forum for previous requests for help in creating an outside single slip and found a few topics. I did find one almost complete template that someone had created ...
214. Making 6ft Way 7 ft
... (44.67 in use)". 1. Where did I go wrong? and secondly how should I calculate the correct spacer ring diameter to check my spacings? (Or better still where should I have gone to find out the information?) Ian Trotter posted: 16 Mar 2013 14:11 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian, If you have created a custom scale/gauge setting, you must select this for the control template before you start work. It will then follow from one template to the next. Templates previously stored will not be changed. If you delete one of them to the control, you need to apply the custom setting again, otherwise your further work will continue to use the old settings from that stored template. Where did I go wrong? My guess is that since setting your custom scale/gauge for the control template, you have at some stage done tools> adjacent track centres... menu item. And then selected the pre-set option with a slash (/)? The pre-set ...
... . posted: 11 Jul 2012 16:01 from: jeffthom Well said, Matthew! I wish my attempts at manual writing for software I had written were half as clear as your description of the best practices. I agree with Matthew's conclusion that you, Martin, can really not afford to add much effort to the documentation issue under discussion here. A bit of gathering of the bits and pieces, plus organization by one of us who is reasonably good at it would pay largest returns, IMHO. Also, as stated previously, a user must be willing to put in some continuing, preferably scheduled and organized, time and effort to get past the "hello world" level of expertise. Jeff Thompson posted: 12 Jul 2012 07:28 from: Mark C Hi Guys, I am a newbie to Templot from Florida, USA (Hi Jeff) and am very excited to have found this marvelous software. I am just getting into hand-laying HO track. So, I have little or no experience in that department. However, ...
216. Tandems and 3 ways
... topic: 2017 Tandems and 3 ways posted: 12 Jul 2012 20:26 from: dave turner Hi In my neverending quest to learn about trackwork and templot in particular I've been looking at tandem turnouts. I have searched the previously posted topics on this subject and at this stage still need help on the following points. What is the difference between 3way and tandem turnouts? I'm sure I've seen this once but couldn't find the topic again to reread it. What suggestions can you make for deciding which turnout settings work together sensibly? All the examples I've seen are for the middle road being the main road. I'm particularly interested in curved turnouts where either of the outer roads are the main road. I haven't been able to work out how to achieve this. Ideally it would be nice to be able to:- Insert a turnout into a plain track aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road peg/align turnout over an existing turnout aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road. Possibly neither of the latter ideas are ...
... page border orientation for both printer and file export. Mark C posted: 13 Jul 2012 21:52 from: Martin Wynne Mark C wrote: Menu choice Output> Page Orientation/ Origin> End-Run (or Side-Run) seems to have no effect when Trackpad> Page Outlines for PDF Export is selected. Hi Mark, The orientation setting for PDF output is on the export dialog. This overrides the printer setting in the output menu: 2_131622_160000000.png The PDF and image file exports are new features in Templot2. Previously the output menu was called the print menu, and applied only to the printed output. It was renamed output for Templot2 but not all the settings in that menu can apply to all outputs. The big difference here is that the printer is a real-world physical device with a physical paper size and physical printable area. The PDF engine is not so constrained -- it can create a document of any size you care to enter. The task of rendering that on paper takes place in the PDF reader program and ...
... topic: 2023 More Sketchboard grief posted: 17 Jul 2012 17:39 from: Phil O Hi Martin A couple of times whilst using Sketchboard I have had the following problem. I have either just created a shape and want to modify it, or a previously constructed shape and get the message in the MODIFY ITEM dialog box, "NO ITEM SELECTED". The only method I have found is to shut down Templot and start again. 38_171231_250000000.png Is this further operator error? Cheers Phil EDIT:- Using XP pro on a Lenovo laptop Last edited on 17 Jul 2012 18:26 by Phil O posted: 17 Jul 2012 18:40 from: Mark C Phil, I have had the exact same problem with Sketchboard in Templot2. I'm not sure what freezes the system, but the more I monkey around trying to get Sketchboard to respond the worse it gets to the point where the whole program freezes and the only recourse is to "force-close" Templot and restart it. I don't think it is operator error. I thought ...
... using 2.05D since downloading it and I keep getting unwanted copies of templates after I store them- i.e. after working with a template and storing to background with Ctrl-V, the template stores as normal, then after about a second, a copy appears as an active template. This happens with every template I work with. Is this a bug or a feature? Jim. posted: 3 Aug 2012 19:55 from: Martin Wynne Hi Jim, This is an experimental change in 205d. see: topic 1988 Previously, after storing a copy of the control template, the control template was automatically hidden and it was necessary to show it again to continue working with it (HOME key). Since that was nearly always wanted, Templot 205d hides it only long enough to see the stored copy, and then shows it again. If you really did want it to remain hidden, you can press the HOME key to hide it again. If you would prefer it not to be hidden at all, on the storage box untick the ...
... to change the image which it contains without changing its size or position. After clicking the background shapes button, this dialog will appear: 2_121236_080000001.png 2. To add a new shape, first click the new shape tab. 3. Enter a name for the shape, which will appear in the list of shapes. 4. Click the option for the type of shape, in this case a picture shape. 5. Choose whether you want to enter the dimensions for this shape, or have it placed at locations which you previously clicked on the trackpad. Usually for a picture shape you want to enter dimensions. 6. Click the add shape button. 7. Follow the dialogs which appear: 2_160728_060000000.png First of all, you must know where the image file is saved on your computer and how to navigate to it in a Windows file dialog. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit basic, but I've discovered that many users can't manage that much, relying always on the Windows defaults. I'm afraid I can't provide a Windows primer as part of ...
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