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... topic: 2464 short .uk domains posted: 30 May 2014 19:45 from: Martin Wynne From 10th June (or as soon as it works afterwards ), this site will also be available on the new shorter domains: 85a.uk templot.uk The existing links (with .co and .com) will continue to work, but I will use the new short domains for any new posted links. regards, Martin. posted: 11 Jun 2014 15:46 from: Martin Wynne Short form .uk domains now working: 85a.uk/forum templot.uk Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> short .uk domains about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all the files submitted to this web site are copyright and the ...
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... capabilities as it involved a fairly long process. I'd get half way through and lose my way. I've watched the movies and already I can see that my paradigm was almost on another planet from what I'm supposed to do. I'll keep running them over and over. For example, to get the curve radius, I was curving the default template manually, printing it off and laying it on the curved road bed, until it fitted. I can see that once you know what it's supposed to be, there is a shorter way to get there. Another example. I was trying to save the image that is in the Storage Box. It sounds stupid now, but that's what I was trying to do. BTW, I've downloaded Jing. It will help me on my forum to do the tutorials for computer control. Thanks Max posted: 2 Jan 2014 07:43 from: MaxSouthOz Everyone will be relieved to know that I have cracked it. 2436_020241_040000000.png Here's what it looks like as a print copy... 2436_020241_550000000.png Whew! I ...
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... double-sided tandem turnout if this is better. I've chosen to have 1 in 6 crossings because I try to build this layout with the smallest footprint. Hi Valentin, You cannot have a tandem turnout with all 1:6 crossings. If that is what you want a simple ladder would be much better: 2_211126_450000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 21 Jul 2014 21:01 from: John Preston Hi Valentin, Find attached a box file of a 7 mm/ft B8- A6 tandem just to show how much shorter it is than two turnouts end to end. Certainly, it can be built in the mirror image if you so choose. Regards John Attachment: attach_1888_2489_Valentin_B8_A6_Ta ndem.box 265 posted: 23 Jul 2014 20:31 from: John Preston Hi Valentin, Here is a box file with a tandem built in. I hope this is what you had in mind. Regards John Attachment: attach_1889_2489_Valentin_Tandem_2 .box 240 posted: 25 Jul 2014 05:27 from: Valentin Hello John, That's precisely what I had in mind. Thank you very ...
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... topic: 2494 Half-diamond timbering posted: 27 Jul 2014 12:27 from: Martin Wynne Copied from my post today on RMweb: just started to file up the first of the rails and found that there was no sleeper under the central bend in the middle diamond. Hi John, That's correct to prototype for diamond-crossings 1:5 and shorter. This ensures that the diamond point tips can be fully supported on a timber each side of the centre. However, if you are not building with exact-scale flangeways in P4, S7, etc., the wider model flangeways mean that the diamond point tips will be further from the centre, and there is then room for a middle timber. Click the real> timbering> half-diamond timbering> timbering as model menu option to have Templot adopt this non-prototypical arrangement and include a middle timber. For more information about this, click the real> timbering> half-diamond timbering>? half-diamond timbering- help menu item. This is the prototypical ...
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... Aug 2014 23:00 from: lukemac Thanks everybody for the help. I will give it ago. Martin all tho the track plan is 5'3 gauge I'm still using the N scale NMRA standards. All my rolling stock that is based on the Victorian railways is made to the NMRA standard. Again thanks everyone and I tell you all how I go at. luke posted: 22 Aug 2014 23:16 from: Martin Wynne Hi Luke, That's fine -- you just need to remember that a corresponding turnout will be shorter than scale in proportion to the gauge. So your model template will be 9/10ths of the length scaled from your drawing, for the same V-crossing (frog) angle. regards, Martin. posted: 27 Aug 2014 14:52 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Luke, Because there appeared to be some issues with the F406 drawing of your symmetrical split Y turnout, and one could not successfully use it as a background image pattern in Templot, I decided to accurately drawn the template( or pattern if ...
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... stock rail and non-prototypical in the sense that the blade tip would be so thin and slender it would be damaged by the first wheel to run over it. Assuming you wish to retain the 136 inches lead and 7 inches offset, I suggest a radius of 3 chains or 2376 inches full size. At 1:48 scale that scales to 49.5" radius in the model, and produces a good result for 1:6 and 1:7 turnouts at 16.5mm gauge. Alternatively for a smaller radius you need a shorter switch, i.e. reducing the 136 inches dimension. For a short curved switch, aim for a deflection angle at the tip of around 1:40 to 1:50. regards, Martin. posted: 27 Aug 2014 12:52 from: keithj15 Hi Martin I tried to work out the dimensions from info from Peco and by measuring the print of their ref sheet I downloaded. The standard point is claimed to be a 24" radius (@ .25"?ft= 96feet =1152 inches. I ...
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... off issue with the gravelling and gullying occurring. The first part of any PW course I have ever read, is about Earthworks, Formation and Drainage. And that is about keeping excess water off. Water at speed is very efficient at removing small particle ballast, (undercutting), as well as filling larger granite ballast with grit and stopping it from doing its job properly. This also allows water to be retained in the ballast with detrimental results. Both these problems are worse for steam locomotive operation than diesel due to the shorter range of suspension travel available. Having said that, the Federal Government of Australia's own track maintenance company has been under fire due to poor cleaning of ballast which has led to rough riding and speed restrictions on the main Sydney to Melbourne line due to an issue known as mud-holing. Also, again, I seriously don't think this is a check rail. (Just rubbish I think. I have another photo' somewhere that shows it as a pipe or tube. Certainly not point rodding and it isn't connected to ...
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... Hi Godders. It also makes a difference on where the start of the ladder is, as it affects the siding lengths. Also there is the option of a traverser, possibly! Hence the questions on size etc. Cheers Phil posted: 9 Dec 2014 21:55 from: Martin Wynne Hi Godders, Do you want all the roads to be the same length? Often it is better suited to your actual traffic if you have them varying in length -- a long road for the long goods train, down to shorter ones for the branch passenger train, say. Also the control system is affected by the design -- a ladder is much easier to control than a branching tree arrangement. With a ladder only one set of points needs to be reversed at any one time, so a simple rotary switch can be used to select the required road. Here's a quick 5-minute stab at a ladder in 00-SF using B-8 LH turnouts with curviform V-crossings. They are curved on 1650mm radius giving a smallest ...
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... construction stage to use available materials. The size and position of the blunt nose is entered at real> V-crossing options> customize V-crossing> blunt nose... menu item. This is actually the starting point in any custom template design, because it affects everything else. I printed both of the templates out and I can see one is longer than the other as you said but I can't really see why- what is different? The longer one has a generic type of V-crossing. The shorter one has a regular type of V-crossing. This is set at real> V-crossing options> menu items. The effect of the entry-straight in a regular crossing reduces the turnout lead length. The length of the entry straight can be adjusted by mouse action if desired to fix a specific lead length. A generic crossing is in effect one with an entry straight of zero. For more explanation of crossing types see: http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_realtrack.htm#xing_types but note that a ...
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... which is just to the north (right) of the goods shed between the up main (GREEN) and goods shed line (ORANGE) The result is here in this screen shot. 2787_181315_330000000.png undefined But as you've observed it has created a tight situation resulting in very sharp radii. One option maybe to maintain a very slight curve through the goods shed which being on the far side of the layout may not be too obvious (especially as it was built for broad gauge), or simply make the goods shed a bit shorter than 12"? The question of how goods were unloaded in a twin road shed is an interesting one along with Matts ideas on how it may have been managed internally. It would be good to know if there were standard procedures that were adopted in the way wagons were shunted and arranged, to make unloading possible for the line furthest away from the loading platform? Martin, I hope that what I want to do is clear, and apologies for my lack of clarity before. I've posted my latest box file as ...
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... Feb 2015 23:26 from: Martin Wynne Hi Rob, 00-SF is also known as "EM minus 2" and shares the same recommendations and constraints as EM. If you are new to all this you may find it worth joining the EM Gauge Society who have a detailed manual covering all these matters, and more: http://emgs.org Generally EM and 00-SF are fine for anything other than outright toy train sets, i.e. a minimum radius say around 24"/ 600mm and turnouts no shorter than say 1:4. A lot depends of course on what rolling-stock you will be using. Not just locomotive wheelbase, but also matters such as buffers and couplings, wheel profiles, and axle sideplay. Generally where the radius goes below say 30"/ 750mm it is advisable to add some gauge-widening, which happens automatically if you use the 3-point track gauges. If you won't be going as tight as that on radius you probably don't need any gauge-widening. RTR models are ...
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... :25 from: Stephen Freeman Hi, Not of great importance but if I choose to print the control template. Computer says there is a communication problem. However template prints out OK nonetheless. It only happens when I choose to print the control template. Running XP SP3 posted: 21 Jan 2014 11:26 from: Martin Wynne Borg-Rail wrote: Computer says there is a communication problem. However template prints out OK nonetheless. Hi Stephen, Not Templot. It's a known problem with Epson printers. Try a shorter printer cable, or a higher grade cable. If it is an old-style parallel printer cable, try using a USB connection instead if the printer has a USB socket. If it happens only with the control template, it is something related to the colour codes on the cable, or the number of pages. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Jan 2014 13:01 from: Stephen Freeman Hi Martin, I shalln't worry about it too much, yes it is an Epson (1290S) and yes I ...
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... ? How can I adjust the printer output without recourse to using Templot? Hi Graham, It's important when printing PDF template files to select the "no scaling" or 100% option, rather than the default "fit to page" setting. If that doesn't solve the problem, a few pointers: It is better to measure the grid squares rather than the rails. Only straight rails should be measured. On curved track in Templot the rail joints are measured along the track centre-line. The inner rail will be shorter than the set length and the outer rail will be longer. I know this is prototypically wrong -- the outer rail should measure the set length, and special "short rails" should be used at intervals on the inner side to keep the joint stagger within limits. Modellers who wish to go to this level of detail can create it in Templot by using custom partial templates. I didn't do this by default in Templot because model curves are typically much sharper than the prototype, with the consequence that the prototype " ...
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... , from 185.0 ins to 180.0 ins (the LNWR wing& check rails both being 15ft joint to joint& tip to tip respectively), when I clicked OK the wing rail changed to what seemed the correct position (and was in fact perfectly OK when measured with the ruler). I then changed the check rail using the same menu (the new K-crossing options menu), I changed the data from 185.0 inches to 180 inches, but when I clicked OK the rail changed length, but appeared to be shorter than the wing rail and did not line up with the wing rail joint as expected. I then checked the data using Adjust check rails menu, by clicking the DS4 label and looking at the information in the pop up screen, I found the value for the half diamond check rail was set at 81.5 ins when it should have been set to 90 ins. So I changed the setting to 90 ins using this menu, and when I clicked OK it changed the template check rail length to coincide with the wing rail ...
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... 60 inch radius. Hi Kim, Is this quick dabble something like what you are looking for? 2_261627_450000000.png What you do is set the 54" main road curving (negative for a Y-effect -- contraflexure), and set a curviform type of V-crossing. Then adjust the V-crossing angle (F9 mouse action) until you hit the desired resultant turnout radius (60" is 1524mm as shown). This is using a 1:24 switch and ideally you need a custom switch here a bit shorter, say 1:18 or 1:20. Probably you also want equalized timbering. regards, Martin. posted: 26 Sep 2012 22:39 from: kimstation Hi Martin, This looks just what I was looking for. Thank you. Kim Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Asymmetrical Y point about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click ...
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... these be converted at a later stage? Yes, provided you take some care: For tandem 3-way turnouts the switches must be staggered far enough to allow full opening of the second switch blades behind the first turnout rail. Insufficient stagger is a common beginner mistake. Also the resulting V-crossings should not be exactly opposite each other, otherwise the check rails cannot be fitted to work properly. For inside slips the shortest practical diamond-crossing is 1:6, otherwise the radius will be too tight. For shorter diamonds you can add an outside slip road, but this requires a lot more space. regards, Martin. posted: 7 Jan 2012 23:18 from: Martin Wynne Martin Wynne wrote: Your problem with uploads is that you are saving the screenshots in JPG format. p.s. there is also a small bug if you get too click-happy. After uploading your picture, wait a few seconds until all the thumbnails are showing in the dialog window before clicking the first one to insert it in your message. ...
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... the file may be printed on different printers at different times. Also, for printing at a commercial print shop it's difficult and expensive to make lots of test and proof prints. However, if you know the amount of error, you can enlarge or reduce the output accordingly and create a fresh PDF file, at output> enlarge/reduce size for print and PDF> set any% ... menu item. It's very difficult to measure a long roll printout with great accuracy, so measure the grid lines over a shorter length, say about 500mm. That output size setting changes both the width and length. To change the length and width independently, if you are feeling brave you may like to experiment with the data distortions. These are legacy functions from the early days of Templot -- I haven't looked at them for years, and I imagine few others have done so. If you make any settings you must reload your .box file afterwards. Also the grid is not distorted, so if you want that printed correctly you would have ...
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... be, one of my school mates fathers was the local permanent way inspector for Maidenhead. He was a big man with a big voice! Jerry Attachment: attach_1348_1821_1234_flattened.pn g 283 posted: 8 Feb 2012 21:51 from: Martin Wynne Hi Jerry, The track centres through the platforms, between bridge abutments, in tunnels, on bridges, viaducts, etc, may be determined by the original broad gauge dimensions; and in other places the original broad gauge dimensions may have survived through several renewals simply because that makes for a shorter renewal occupation time than full remodelling. The 1:2500 OS maps are really too small in scale to be reliable evidence of track centres. Also bear in mind that although published in say 1930 the last full re-surveying may have taken place many years earlier. The only way to be sure is to refer to photographs, or obtain a much larger scale railway rating plan or similar. If you can obtain some clear photographs, you may be able to extract the track centres using Gimp: http:// ...
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... the? help F2 button and read the notes. The default step size for 4mm scale is 6mm, giving a maximum template length of 3000 x 6mm= 18000mm. Increase the step size just enough to allow the required template length. For example if you make the step size 11mm, the template length can go up to 3000 x 11mm= 33000mm. The change applies to the current control template only, and you need to do this again for any existing templates if necessary. Presumably you will be splitting this template into shorter ones, aligning templates over it, inserting turnouts in it, etc.? I strongly recommend that as soon as the templates are short enough you return the step size on them to the default 6mm. Otherwise you may find that you have inadvertently created an entire track plan with the longer step size, and some templates will be adversely affected when printed. regards, Martin. posted: 1 Mar 2012 13:38 from: Jerry Thank you very much Martin, Just for the record the Map distance of my plan ...
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... :01 from: Ian Allen Martin, Not sure if this has been picked up on before, but I am noticing spurious timbers appear when I convert a fixed K crossing diamond to a moveable K crossing diamond. I'll put up a screenshot later. Ian posted: 4 Apr 2012 14:08 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian, No need for a screenshot. I'm aware that there are still some timbering issues following the generator changes for irregular diamonds. If you change to a switch-diamond for K-crossing angles shorter than about 1:6.5, Templot has no prototype information for the timbering and it needs some timber-shoving input from you to sort things out. I want to do something about the half-diamond timbering, but short of abandoning all prototype data and simply spacing the timbers evenly, the whole thing is a bit of a conundrum. The problem is made worse by having to allow the prototype/model flangeway option for the timber supporting the ends of the point rails for fixed K-crossings. Fortunately it can ...
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