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... :39 from: Martin Wynne richard_t wrote: "Garage Shelf Project" saved OK; change to "Garage Shelf Project v2"; still wants to save without "v2". Same with the background shapes as well. Hi Richard, Ah. Templot uses only the first 20 characters of the title in creating the file name. That leaves room to add the date and time without creating an excessively long file name. So if you make a change it needs to be in the first 20 characters, or use a shorter title, or manually edit the file name. Try "Garage Shelf v2" or "Garage Project v2" or "Shelf Project v2" or "v2 Garage Shelf Project" or similar. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Change the project title about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members ...
... to many more. http://www.broadgauge.co.uk/locations/torquay_station.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotives_of_the_Great_Western_R ailway http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:St_Ives_station_view_c1890.jpg http://www.francisfrith.com/st-ives The last is very protective of copyright, and will pursue all infringements very aggressively — so you can share the link, but never the image. Hope this helps regards Keith posted: 7 Apr 2015 14:50 from: Nigel Brown Keith Thanks. Fascinating. I see that the platform was much shorter in broad gauge days. After conversion it appears the main platform was rebuilt so that the edge was further away from the station building, and extended, in the process allowing the goods siding to be also used as a bay. Good luck with the project. Should be a good one. Nigel posted: 7 Apr 2015 15:22 from: Matt M. Hi Keith, I would assume you guys have the Great Western Railway Journal late summer 1992 Special Cornish Issue with its nice potted history of the line? ...
... in a track plan. In practice A-4 is not a very satisfactory size. The A-size switch is too long for a 1:4 crossing and the turnout curve will be very sharp as a result. You can create a more satisfactory 1:4 turnout by using a 9ft straight switch instead of the A switch. Try it and see, by clicking the track> switch... menu item and then "9ft straight heel switch". The radius will be larger even though the turnout is shorter. If you have another Waverley kit, you should be able to build it on that template just as easily as on the A-4 template. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Dec 2010 18:14 from: RedgateModels Just my thoughts, I had planned to take the template into work tomorrow and scan it in to try to "best match" the three ends at least. I don't intend using a Waverley template again, I have an A6 kit, but will just use Templot templates with the kit ...
144. Is it feasible?
... from: Jim Guthrie Raymond, I think you've got a problem. The tangents at the track ends at the joins are all at different angles which would give varying degrees of dog legs if the traverser was moved away from the basic setup of all six tracks matching. You would have to have the track breaks on a line drawn from the centre of the circles and, to make the other end of your yard work, that line would have to be horizontal on your plan. I don't know if you could accommodate the shorter lengths of the yard roads. If you want longer roads then the line from the centre would have to be at an angle and that would mean that your fiddle yard would have to move at the same angle, and your loco head shunt section would also have to be at the same angle. Your main fiddle yard and your loco head shunt would them become forms of parallelograms. A problem with this setup is that you might require a bit more room to give full movement of the yard- i.e. the outermost ...
... To be honest the example I gave was simplified to avoid confusion, we are using transitions Hi Andy, Ok, if you use transition curves you can create the track separation quite easily using transitions only. Set up the straight double track at 6ft way and some curved double track at say 8ft way or whatever. Then use the make transition function to link them, separately for each track. Here's what I mean, with the amount of widening exaggerated for clarity: trans_widen.png trans_widen_spacing.png You will find the outer transition zone is much shorter than the inner, and approximately centred within it. For large increases in spacing this method falls down, as either the outer transition length reduces to zero, or the inner transition becomes excessively long. You then need to apply slews instead, as explained before. regards, Martin. posted: 7 Apr 2009 17:48 from: Andy G I think that is how I've done it. Doing it automatically would be nice but at least I know I approached it in the right way. Cheers Andy posted: 7 ...
146. newbie
... paying public`? unfortunately, as i`m sure applies to many, many others my interest in all things railway has come too late to know too much of how it used to be. posted: 8 Mar 2010 21:15 from: Nigel Brown Hi Tony Just a few suggestions. (1) The access to your platform and station building is very narrow, even more so if you've got coal staithes along the coal siding. You could increase it by changing template 5 into a Y, which should be shorter as well so that you shouldn't increase the overall length by much, if anything at all. (2) You could also increase it by having the end of the platform road not curving so much; you could even have the release end straight, or have no curve at all. You might have to shorten the run-round loop a tad to avoid lengthening the layout, but would this matter? (3) You could also increase it by having the end of the coal siding straight. (4) ...
... comprise, which I'm sure they would have on site. 1522_220214_580000000.png Thanks for every ones thoughts Regards Dave posted: 22 Apr 2010 08:33 from: Martin Wynne David wrote: That diagram actually shows through timbers right back to the Closure Rails/Crossing joints. Hi Dave, The limiting condition is not the position within the turnout, but the proximity of the adjacent rails outside the turnout. Long timbers tend not to be used where the space to the next set of rails is more than about 3ft-ish. Two shorter timbers, or a timber and a sleeper, would be used instead. This means that your crossover with widened track spacing requires fewer long timbers -- but each one is longer than the 19ft-6in shown in that diagram. As the tracks widen further, the number of long timbers needed gets fewer, but the timbers get longer. If the crossover is sufficiently wide, no long timbers are needed and a length of sleepered plain track can link the crossings. Notice also in that diagram that the vee rails are ...
... subsequently. This may explain some reported problems with empty picture shapes when reloading .bgs files. 46 characters is quite a long file name and it did not occur to me that anyone would have file names longer than this. I can't easily do anything to increase the limit, but the limit should have been documented, and there should be a warning if users attempt to load a file name which is too long. Sorry about that, it will be added next time. The solution is simply to rename the file with a shorter name. Note that this limit applies only to image files( .bmp files) used in picture shapes. There is no limit* on the length of the file name when saving the .bgs file (or .box files). *other than the usual Windows limits on file naming. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Bug warning -- bmp image file names in picture shapes ...
... is 5'3", as you have assumed. I'm modelling in 18.2mm (EM gauge). Jules posted: 30 Jun 2010 05:53 from: Martin Wynne julesmwatson wrote: The prototype track gauge is 5'3", as you have assumed. I'm modelling in 18.2mm (EM gauge). Hi Jules, EM gauge normally implies a scale of 4mm/ft. To model this turnout exactly in 4mm/ft scale requires a track gauge of 21mm. At 18.2mm track gauge the lead length of the turnout will be significantly shorter and it will be impossible to match the number and spacing of the timbers. Likewise the space between the V-crossings in the crossover will be significantly longer and will require extra timbers. Alternatively you could model 5ft-3in gauge at a scale of 3.467mm/ft to get an exact scale track gauge of 18.2mm and model the turnout exactly to the drawing. That's very close to H0 scale (3.5mm/ft) which strictly requires 18.4mm track gauge, but at 18.2mm gauge most of the timber spacings could no doubt ...
... crossing angle turns out to be 1:2.27 (with straight roads). *important -- in all current versions of Templot the radius in both roads must be the same. And in this case you can hardly have any curving in them at all, because the bottom limit on crossing angle in Templot is currently 1:2 (these tracks are straight, and any required curving would have to start beyond the diamond.) If you want to have some curving through the diamond itself, the crossing angle will be shorter than 1:2 so you would need to build it up from a lot of partial templates. In the next version of Templot I'm intending to reduce the limit to 1:1. Unfortunately at these short angles it is almost impossible to get a neat timbering result automatically, and prototype practice varies significantly anyway. Consequently manual timber shoving will always be needed, as you can see above. regards, Martin. posted: 28 Jul 2010 15:13 from: Paulr1949 Martin Many thanks- I have got it to ...
... be possible to split the exit track from a parallel crossing if it extends beyond the MRP position, and I will look at that. Thanks for drawing my attention to it. The handedness of a switch (the moving points part of a turnout) is important because it affects the speed limits through it. Vehicles travelling on the main road see no sideways deflection and can continue at the line speed. Vehicles travelling onto the the turnout road are suddenly diverted to the left or right at the switch deflection angle. For the shorter switches this is a significant deflection and there is normally a severe speed restriction over the diverging road for this reason. At the V-crossing the hand of the turnout affects the physical design of the vee. The point rail comprising the actual vee nose is normally in the main road for strength under the heaviest traffic. The splice rail attached to the side of it is normally in the diverging road. Many modellers ignore this distinction when making model vees, but some take the trouble to get it correct. Templot continues ...
... at the rail joint. This means that for non-natural turnouts, there is a short 13" length of rail which in one case is at the switch radius, and in the other case is at the turnout radius. The effect of this difference on the lead length is insignificant. Templot uses a virtual heel position on the last chair for all sizes, corresponding to SR practice. Only the SR and LMS used F switches, and they each had their own design. The LMS F-20 turnout is 6ft shorter than the SR F-20 turnout. Templot uses the SR design -- if you want a specifically LMS F switch, you must create a custom switch.</bobble_hat> regards, Martin. posted: 26 Aug 2010 17:29 from: richard_t Thanks for all of that. Wish I had the space for an F-20! posted: 26 Aug 2010 18:07 from: Brian Nicholls Martin Wynne wrote: Hi Brian, Hold down the SHIFT key to cancel the snapping function, or turn ...
... 2011 19:13 from: Franz Martin This is Schienenform I (SF I) rail design from Bavaria: The maximum rail length is 6 meters. It has taken me a bit of trial and error and I decided to upgrade to the latest TEMPLOT version in order to diagnose my errors. Most of the dimensions are written on the drawing. It was hard to find, but eventually I discovered the Heel offset is 130mm, rail to Heel is 6000mm, toe to heel is 5250. The second set of switches are shorter- something to adjust later. I am having trouble positioning the Timbers, I had desired entering the details in the Custom Timber Settings tool. I can not determine what to set the dimensions to get the timber located properly. In the end I used the Push Timber tool. Does the push timber tool alter the values in the custom Timber Settings file or are they is some adjustments file somewhere. I would like to know where to find a sketch which indicates the terms for the switch details, crossing details, timbers ...
... me, says "switch" we mean only the moving points section of a turnout. Not the whole thing. I know this can be very confusing for users on the left side of the pond. The non-prototype short model switches allow you to save some space when using sub-natural turnout sizes. For the natural REA sizes -- A7, B8, C10, etc., changing to the short model switches will make little difference. Sub-natural sizes are those where the V-crossing angle is shorter than those above, for the same switch size, i.e. A5, A6, B6, B7, C8, C9, etc. In these cases, changing to the short model switches will shorten the turnout. In these short model switches the switch heel is set at the end of the planing (blade machining), and the turnout curve starts immediately from there. In most prototype switches, the heel position (where the turnout curve starts) is either at the physical end of the switch rail (point rail ...
... as yours. Rob posted: 27 Feb 2011 22:16 from: Martin Wynne Dasatcopthorne wrote: If there was a length of plain track between two turnouts say 140' long, what length would the track panels be cut to. 2 x 60'+ 20' or would they try to avoid the 20' length and have 2 x 50'+ 40'? Is/was there any set rules or minimum length please? Hi Dave, The commonly quoted rule for running lines is that no rail should be shorter than 15ft/ 6 sleepers, but I don't know if that is applicable for BR(S) for your period. That might make it necessary to shorten 60ft rails in some cases. In which case ideally at least 15ft would be cut off, so that the offcut would be usable elsewhere. So for say 130ft length, 2 x 60ft+ an extra 10ft is not allowed. Instead one of the 60ft rails would be shortened to say 40ft, requiring a further 30ft length to make 60ft+ 40ft+ 30ft ...
... been thinking about a method that will reduce my instructions by 2 or 3 whole Steps (not just instructions) without compromising the accuracy of the templates, so look out for version 2 of the document. All the best, Brain Nicholls. posted: 13 Apr 2011 17:01 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Raymond, Richard_t As I mentioned in my last posting, I have sat down and completely rationalized and re-written the whole irregular diamond instructions set, and is designated version v2. This has resulted in a much shorter version, less steps involved, and all the superfluous junk taken out. In addition I have added many more screenshots of the operations involved and the results of those actions. If you have the time please give this document the once over and perhaps try using it. I will appreciate any comments you care to make. Have fun give it a try !! All the best, Brain Nicholls. Attachment: attach_1038_1451_How_to_Construct _an_Irregular_Diamond_Crossing_v2 .pdf 302 posted: 19 Apr 2011 09:29 from: Raymond I have now had time to ...
157. Loosing K rails
... Raymond wrote: I was using F5 to alter the angle and the rails simply vanish at about 1.8 but the other diamond went down to 1:7.5 without problem. Hi Raymond, Diamond-crossings with K-crossings flatter than 1:8 are required to be switch-diamonds (i.e. with movable K-crossings which don't have check rails). See: topic 731- message 4156 More info at real> K-crossing options>? K-crossings- help menu item. I suggest you make the shorter half-diamond a matching switch-diamond: real> K-crossing options> movable K-crossings menu option. But strictly speaking, both sides of a K-crossing should always be the same angle. regards, Martin. posted: 26 Apr 2011 19:51 from: Raymond Thanks Martin, I new there would be a simple explanation. One of the problems with following a published plan is the potential for error in scanning. I am drawing Birmimgham Moor Street, which seems to have had some odd ...
158. A Pug for Paul?
... 16 May 2011 21:17 from: Paul Boyd Hi Rob Is it the intention that users of the development version run it along side the existing version? That's how I would expect to use it. posted: 16 May 2011 21:31 from: Martin Wynne Paul Boyd wrote: Oh, and if I can make my 1:1.75-ish irregular diamond whilst I'm at it, so much the better Hi Paul, Yes, but be warned -- 1: 1.5 is the bottom limit. Templot won't go shorter now, and most likely never will. The maths is too messy and the prototypes vary too much. Below 1.5 you are back to overlaying plain track and adding hand-drawn details. regards, Martin. posted: 17 May 2011 02:54 from: Martin Wynne In the hope of keeping discussions in the Development doings forum in some sort of order, I have created a collection of empty holding topics in readiness. There is nothing there yet, but the topic headings provide a useful checklist of the major new ...
... mode, right-click on it). On its menu, click peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at intersection menu item. Follow the instructions and wait a moment while Templot does the calculations. You will then need to split the underlying original background template and shorten each half back accordingly. The method won't work for transition curves, it is for straights and fixed-radius curves only. Also it is very easy when testing to have the tracks crossing at too short an angle. Templot can't produce crossings shorter than 1: 1.5 RAM( i.e. not more than 33.7 degrees). This method also works for two straight tracks intersecting, but in that case the result is a regular diamond-crossing.____ For all irregular diamonds you will probably want to do some timber shoving to tidy them up. The program needs some further work in this area. Note that the DP peg position (CTRL-3) for an irregular half-diamond is not coincident with central CTRL-0 position and serves little ...
... talking to your servers is for all the right reasons, but can you please assure us that this will only ever be for development versions? Hi Paul, Yes, it's only for TDV. There is no reason for it on the full versions. It would be unjustifiable where users have paid for full access to the program. And just to reassure you, TDV doesn't send anything at all, it merely fetches an authorisation code. By the way, the new update has swapped to a UK server, which has much shorter ping times for UK users. Jim in Ohio offers much better hosting customer service, but he can't do anything about the physical distance. regards, Martin. posted: 21 May 2011 22:25 from: Paul Boyd Hello Martin I've spotted another quirk with TDV. If you're adjusting the length of a template, for instance, then hit Ctrl-V to store, the mouse action dialogue box stays open and active- on 0.91c it closes. Also, the control template disappears so I need to hit Home to ...
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