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... topic: 1199 Difficulty getting started posted: 11 Aug 2010 20:32 from: roythebus Well, I suppose it's me either being too old to learn, or having a blonde year, but having spent ages trying to master Templot, I can't even get the crossover I've just drawn to print. I was hoping to be able to rebuild my current layout more prototypically using Templot, but personally I find it extremely complicated to use. I've looked at the videos and it all seems too easy, but reality is different to what is shown on some of the videos. for instance, I make a simple curved crossover on double track. I then try to modify one of the turnouts to get an easier radius, but then another turnout appears at random on the overall plan. I then find I can't print the original crossover, despite going into the template store; there's no print box shown. Has anyone yet written an idiots guide to Templot yet, or is there anyone out there who fancies doing a rather large layout plan? I ...
... topic: 2650 Templot v. Marmite posted: 12 Mar 2015 14:36 from: Martin Wynne Just posted on RMweb. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/96994-layout-design-software/#entry1815284 Martin. posted: 12 Mar 2015 15:06 from: D Foster Would have been nice if anyone in the thread had said "thankyou" for providing the system free of charge. Perhaps you should install one of those tick boxes that says that the potential user has read the instructions before they can go ahead... I hate Marmite- but I've never tried chewing Templot... ;-) Thanks for your efforts :-) posted: 12 Mar 2015 17:25 from: its_all_downhill Why slag off a piece of software that they didn't have to pay for but it seems to be the mode of the moment over on RMweb. posted: 12 Mar 2015 17:32 from: Phil O Sometimes I think people want to try and produce Crewe before they've mastered producing a ...
... topic: 1126 Coding in progress... posted: 18 May 2010 18:50 from: Martin Wynne Most of this topic is obsolete. Irregular diamond-crossings are now fully supported in Templot2. Check rails are adjustable by mouse action in Templot2. I thought I would start a topic where I can report occasionally about what I'm currently working on in Templot. Comments and suggestions welcome, but don't leave it too long or I may have moved on to something else. I'm minded to stop using the term "irregular" diamond-crossing because it has the potential to be confused with an error condition. Instead I'm thinking of calling them "curviform" diamond-crossings. We can't simply call them "curved" because of course a regular diamond-crossing can be curved. Comments welcome: Make Ladder Crossover A ladder track is one which crosses running lines diagonally, comprised of a string of diamond-crossings and/or slips. In Templot a ladder is created by clicking the tools> make ladder crossover menu item repeatedly, once ...
... So I will confess that I'm a bit disappointed and wondering if I have taken a wrong turning. The sketchboard function took months of work and a considerable expense for the licence for the graphics engine. But only a few sketchboard screenshots have been posted here or on any other forums. Only a tiny handful of sketchboard SK9 files have been attached here for comment. Was I wasting my time? And if so, where to next? There are several extra functions I would like to add for my own use, but is Templot already too complicated for most users? Should I be looking at a "Lite" version where users can select pictures of A5s, B6s, etc and simply click them together? Should I provide a way to work with non-adjustable Peco templates? To import plans from AnyRail? A general dumbing down of the whole thing? Your thoughts welcome. Which bits of Templot2 do you really like? Which bits have you not even looked at? Which bits would you do differently? regards to all, Martin. posted ...
... ! Ralph Last edited on 15 Jul 2013 11:50 by Fishplate42 posted: 15 Jul 2013 14:50 from: wally I had read the S4 post before finding this topic, but what struck me is the fact that (and please nobody take this as a personal attack or slight) he cannot by his own admission get any Windows product to work and has given up on those as well. Wally posted: 15 Jul 2013 21:42 from: Trevor Walling Hello, Does this post found doing a search on templot not provide the solution being sought? topic 1797 trustytrev. posted: 16 Jul 2013 08:44 from: Alan Turner Martin Wynne wrote: Sad to see this post today: http://www.scalefour.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p =24919#p24919 I know you can't please everyone, but I would try to help if I could. Martin. Templot does require some understanding of track design and basic alignment design to understand the underlying concepts. Everyone who I have encountered who claimed not to understand Templot also had ...
6. Despair
... time I receive an email like this, and I've just received another one below. The sender made the subject line "Despair", but I'm not sure which of us feels that in greater measure, because I just don't know how to answer. He writes: Hello Martin, I've spent so much time on this now I am really wondering if this is for me; I finally (as I thought) found how to get a scanned plan on to the screen, but every time it just crashes until I switch Templot off. I've been at this for weeks and I feel that if I had spent the time modelling I would have half the track built and laid by now. I've read and re-read the tutorials but there is very little that seems relevant to my purpose. I use a computer every day but I cannot make head nor tail of this programme at all. I feel very disappointed with my purchase as it seems to complicate even the simplest of actions. Regards, The sender has been a member here of Templot ...
... clue. I have the Hornby HVR programs but they're very primitive and you can only use their components. I found this program called Scarm which seems simple enough a fairly straight forward but taken me a while to grasp, I'm sure there are many different tools etc but I've not figured that out. Eventually looking at these boring track design programs not being able to figure out anything or get it to do what I want makes my brain melt and give me a headache so I turn back to paper. One other program called Templot is supposed to be quite good but this is probably the worst of all of them, I just found myself looking at the same point on the screen for at least an hour trying to figure out how to use it despite constantly looking through forums, pages and instructions I still failed to figure it out. I'm sure it would be a good tool to use since you can apparently print out full layout plans and build your track work on top. But yeh, and I'm 19 so I consider myself to be the ...
... topic: 752 Saving user preferences posted: 5 Mar 2009 09:28 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, Bruce Wilson wrote: However, I do like the suggestion made of having Templot remember the last user settings. OK, I give in. I have never understood the importance of saving user preferences. I seldom use the same ones twice, and compared with an hour on Templot and hundreds or even thousands of mouse clicks in a session, half a dozen clicks at the start to change a few settings seem insignificant. Especially compared with the great advantage of starting from a known repeatable condition every time -- which also makes it much easier for me to provide user support. But I've been asked for saved preferences so often that I give in. In the next pug I will include the option to save some of your settings. But I need to know which ones -- I can't do every single thing that might be changed in Templot (although I can add more in each subsequent pug). So if you would like ...
9. Templot docs
... topic: 1025 Templot docs posted: 28 Jan 2010 09:13 from: Howard Raymond wrote:... It would be best to view it with centre lines disabled as I have used single rails to mark out limits and buildings. That's a nice idea- how do you set single rails? Howard. posted: 28 Jan 2010 09:58 from: Raymond For instance: The platform edge was done by copying the adjacent track, then 'no timbering' followed by omitting one rail then using F7 to move it about or F8 to slew it. It is important the the snap function is switched off. F4 and F6 will do the rest. Don't bother with it until your track is pretty much as you want it so that you do not need the centre lines. Regards Raymond posted: 28 Jan 2010 10:24 from: Howard Raymond wrote:...followed by omitting one rail that's the bit I don't see! How do you omit one rail? Howard. posted: 28 Jan 2010 10:47 from: Martin ...
... topic: 1701 ADMIN: Templot changes posted: 27 Nov 2011 18:41 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, The price of a Templot licence has remained unchanged for over 10 years. That means it is now much cheaper in real terms than it was, despite the many new features introduced over that time. I've allowed this situation to develop because I'm very aware of the deficiencies in Templot as a proper software product -- especially with regard to the confusing mess the user documentation is in. New users have been starting with the 10-year-old version 074b, despite the availability of much improved later versions, simply because 074b is the only version with a reasonably full set of user docs. But I've reached the end of my tether in trying to explain this over and over again in emails to users, despite the fact that it is fully explained in my order confirmation letter. If we carry on as we are I shall be ill. There is simply no way in the short term that I can find the time to ...
... topic: 3197 Templot Companion- work in progress posted: 26 Jan 2018 02:18 from: Martin Wynne The first inkling that I might at long last get a bit done on the Companion. I have updated this video clip to match 218c: http://templot.com/companion/4_where_do_i_start.php I will update this topic as I get more done. Martin. posted: 28 Jan 2018 02:58 from: Martin Wynne Another short video added for beginners: http://templot.com/companion/4_where_do_i_start.php I would welcome some feedback about the style and content of these videos, and the Templot Explained section generally: http://templot.com/companion/0_for_beginners.php I hope I am hitting the right level for raw beginners, it's impossible for me to know. It certainly takes a great deal of time to produce. Hopefully the information delivery rate can be increased as beginners become more familiar with the concepts. regards, Martin. posted: 28 Jan 2018 20:47 from: Phil O Martin, I think it might help, ...
... topic: 3189 future of Templot and docs posted: 19 Jan 2018 02:28 from: madscientist sadly Martin your recent cleanup, broke documentation links, mostly published by you in loads of forum posts all over the net That's a pity as finding docs is more difficult Is the section you wrote" real tracks" still available, is there a valid link Thanks Dave posted: 19 Jan 2018 02:50 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, Some of that page is temporarily at: http://templot.com/companion/prototype.php I'm sorry a lot of stuff is not available at present. It will all come back as I get round to updating it for Templot2, and I will put re-directs to mend the broken links. I removed it because I got tired of writing "here's a link, oh by the way it's all out of date". I'm 70 this year. I'm not going to be pushed into doing anything faster or sooner than I choose to do it. p.s. We are moving to a new ...
... topic: 2734 3D Printed Track and Turnouts posted: 9 Aug 2015 05:18 from: Andrew Barrowman Greetings fellow Templotters, As some of you already know, I've been messing about trying to print turnout bases on a 3D printer. It's fairly easy to create a 3D model of the timbers in CAD from any Templot template. It's also fairly simple to drag models of the chairs into the correct positions and orientation and combine them to produce an STL file to drive a printer. What is not so easy is producing 3D models for chairs that a) actually work, and b) don't look too horrible! I think I have reached a point where I'm limited by the printing technology itself. The results are actually a lot better than I thought they might be when I started out. Anyway, I've been making some wild guesses about chair dimensions, and I have not had a lot of luck finding anything on the Web. Any information would be greatly appreciated. (Here's a bit of track I've been using to test the latest chair ...
14. File preview
... topic: 2404 File preview posted: 14 Feb 2014 19:58 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Hi MartinI have dozens or maybe hundreds of box files and when I want to see what I did in a particular file to see if I've done something similar before I have to wade through loading into Templot looking, discarding, loading,,,,, Many applications have the ability to look at files without loading is this feasible in Templot. Appreciate it may not be easy but if you could take a look, I would be grateful. Cheers Godders posted: 14 Feb 2014 20:18 from: Martin Wynne Hi Godders, How would you see this working? I can't see an obvious way to see what's in a .box file without loading it. For new .box files we could perhaps include a screenshot of the trackpad, or a list of the storage box contents, or both, in the .box file for use by a "preview" function. And of course you can always set a meaningful file name, or put them in meaningful ...
... topic: 144 Templot on MacBookPro with Bootcamp and XP??? posted: 28 Aug 2007 20:49 from: Dave Phillips Hi Everyone! I'm looking for other users running Templot on the same or similar hardware/software setup that I have. I have an Apple Macintosh MacBookPro with 17 inch display running Mac OS 10.4.10. I have a hard drive partition with Bootcamp version 1.3 and Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2 and Templot 0.91.b. I am having trouble successfully launching Templot with my setup, although Templot 91a and earlier versions launch every time. Please respond here if you have the same or similar hardware/sotware setup. If you currently have launch problems on your setup please describe. If you had launch problems but they have disappeared, please report that as well. Thanks in advance, Dave posted: 28 Aug 2007 21:43 from: Cynric Williams Dave I started using bootcamp this weekend with VM fusion and it has been a trial to say the least! XP required activating 4 times because of 'hardware changes' and ...
16. Pug version 091c
... topic: 330 Pug version 091c posted: 7 Feb 2008 10:13 from: Martin Wynne Update: Version 091c remains available( Click to Download) if you have a valid Templot lock-release code. However if you have an internet connection on your computer you should upgrade to Templot2 which does not require a lock-release code. Templot2 has many new features since version 091c which is now over 5 years old. Download and more information about Templot2 here: message 10771 February 2008:( Just a reminder that Templot 091c (not Templot2) needs a default local printer -- not a network printer -- to be able to run. A physical printer is not necessary, only the printer driver is needed. A virtual printer such as a fax driver or PDF generator will do fine. A free PDF printer driver can be downloaded from: http://www.pdf995.com/download.html) Pug version 091c download: Click to Download n.b. After installing 091c on Windows 7 you may see a message "This program may not have installed ...
17. New user
... topic: 1341 New user posted: 18 Jan 2011 22:06 from: Templot User I am spending much to much time getting started. Menus just do not comply with normal Windows practice. I will note them as I go but you are making me work very hard just to get started. I purchased the program and downloaded the available version 0.74.be. Then downloaded and installed 0.91.co. The Help menu says I still have the old version. what changed? All the menus still behave as before and my growing list of complaints were not fixed. Here are some complaints: 1. Calibrating the printer: The menu for entering data in the field does not allow me to back up. If there is an error, I have to start over. No indication that I have to hit Enter to go to the next field. The entire calibration procedure is cumbersome. All of this should be done from one menu and not jumping through so many. I have spent 20 minutes getting this to work before finding out that someone has somehow altered ...
... roundy-roundy layout is squarish, about 15ft/4500mm square? A panel 800mm x 400mm isn't the least bit squarish, so I'm wondering what you have in mind. Is the whole layout going on one panel? Or several panels? With 7mm dia LEDs, the closest track spacing to keep things looking clear is probably at 5mm centres. If your layout track spacing is 50mm, that means the scale of the mimic diagram is 1:10. So that would mean a diagram 450mm square. Which 800x400 isn't? Templot has a function to draw the track centre-lines only, at any width, irrespective of the gauge of the rails (and in the marker colours), which may help you make a panel. Can you post a screenshot of what you mean by jagged track edges? That may just be your screen resolution, it would print smooth. Traditionally a steam-era railway would be controlled from a signal box diagram and a row of levers. Templot and sketchboard can produce some very nice-looking signal box diagrams ...
... topic: 2722 Admin -- new Templot Wiki posted: 3 Jul 2015 21:28 from: Chris Copplestone Hi Martin, why not turn point 9 at topic 2720- message 18886 the new Templot Companion web site and A-Z index, into a Wiki and allow registered volunteers to add to it by copying and editing or linking all the data in points 1- 8? Then all you need to do is check/edit that the information has been entered correctly and to ensure that a standard style, set by you, is being used. Regards Chris C Thanks Chris. I have now set up a Wiki for Templot, see for details: topic 2722- message 18932 regards, Martin. posted: 4 Jul 2015 14:02 from: Martin Wynne Chris Copplestone wrote: why not turn point 9, the new Templot Companion web site and A-Z index, into a WiKi and allow registered volunteers to add to it by copying and editing or linking all the data in points 1- 8? Then all you need ...
... I'm working on John Watt's irregular diamonds, and I'm very aware that the code I'm using -- both for the diamonds and for mouse-action adjustment of check rails -- is now 5 years old since it was written, and it still hasn't made it into a Pug release. I'm beginning to despair that it ever will. I've written about this problem several times before, but I'm no nearer a solution. In recent months I have been able to spend almost no time at all on program development. All my Templot time has been spent on user support, not only on here but also on RMweb and elsewhere, and in emails. I recently turned 60, and I'm getting genuinely worried that the grey cells will fail on me before I can get everything done in Templot that I want to do. Already there are areas of the code which were crystal clear when I wrote them 20 years ago, but are now getting distinctly foggy. I'm worried that in 10 years time I will have forgotten how Templot works entirely! On top ...
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