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... with an error condition. Instead I'm thinking of calling them "curviform" diamond-crossings. We can't simply call them "curved" because of course a regular diamond-crossing can be curved. Comments welcome: Make Ladder Crossover A ladder track is one which crosses running lines diagonally, comprised of a string of diamond-crossings and/or slips. In Templot a ladder is created by clicking the tools> make ladder crossover menu item repeatedly, once for each diamond-crossing. This makes it possible to change the adjacent track spacing for each diamond-crossing (geometry> adjacent track centres... menu item) as necessary. If slip roads are needed, they are added to the diamond-crossings afterwards. There are two types of ladder track: 1. In a regular ladder, the diagonal-road has the same radius as the main-road (or both are straight), and all crossing angles are therefore equal. Regular ladder tracks are comprised of regular diamond-crossings, and are commonly seen in station throats ...
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... about Tools- Ruler but couldn't see how it works. (I have unhidden ruler). Hi Bob, Go to: http://www.templot.com/martweb/pug_info_1.htm Scroll down to ruler tool on the left and click the info icon. Martin. posted: 11 Oct 2011 12:12 from: Bob Juleff Many thanks, Martin Bob posted: 11 Oct 2011 14:11 from: Tony W Hi Bob. Although the ruler can be useful for measuring track centres, an alternative approach is to turn on the adjacent tracks function which will apply to the Control template. In 0.91c this can be found under the Generator> Generator settings> Adjacent tracks. The default in this version is to show all four rails ie both Turnout side and Main side, this can be changed with the "Adjacent tracks rail options". The spacing settings can be altered by selecting Geometry> Adjacent track centres and entering the new dimensions for the Turnout side and Main side independently. A degree of trial and error will be needed with this method. To ...
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... as well. Andrew posted: 14 Jul 2018 05:11 from: Andrew Duncan I can barely believe that its been 6 months since I've reported any progress on Pen Mill. I've not been totally idle, nor have I made great leaps forward. The catch point is in on the carriage siding. I've added all the feeds/ droppers in now, so the amount of wires underneath have burgeoned. I've almost got all microswitches switching the correct polarity. I've even got close to getting the diamond crossings being switched by their adjacent turnouts. It remains to be seen whether the micrswitches stay correctly aligned to give reliable switching over time. I maybe worrying unnecessarily but I'm beginning to wonder whether I'd have been better off either using either Megapoint electronic control( as I did on the junction baseboard)or frog juicers for this? Does anyone have any experience of the Gaugemaster frog juicer. I have bought a couple but not used them yet and since read that they will only take a couple of amps( my ZTC has a 5 amp output) power ...
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... a month's output. In all the construction I ever did, I used nothing more than 6 roller gauges and a pocket mirror. Regards Brian Lewis Carrs -- C+ L Finescale posted: 14 Nov 2007 17:35 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, Matt, I agree with Brian. Roller gauges are fine, and far and away the easiest type to make (assuming you have a lathe, of course). The trick is not to have them too large in diameter, so that they fit between two adjacent rail fixings without getting in the way. A roller gauge turned from 6mm or 8mm bar is plenty large enough (1 /4" or 5/16" dia) in 4mm scale. For use with canted rail in chairs it's important not to make the gauge slots deeper than the rail head. The radiused corners on the rail head easily allow a few degrees of twist to accommodate the cant. For use with soldered construction on rivets or copper laminate, you don't have the chairs to hold the rail upright. ...
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... top of each other and gaps down to about 6" with bad language to suit, I have a very good vocabulary when I have had to pack timbers in confined spaces. HTH Phil posted: 29 Aug 2011 23:27 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Phil, Many thanks for the response to my query. You have certainly given me some excellent pointers to the gapping between the timbers which make perfect sense, bad language and all. My particular problems are mainly due to Vee& knuckle timbers (and K) of adjacent turnouts and diamond crossings being more or less in line with each other, making it very difficult to clear the directly adjacent timbers. The amount of twist required for the timbers not to overlap would be quite considerable and may not be achievable, it appears the solution would be to move one or both of the timbers either backwards or forwards to reduce the amount of twist to a more sensible amount. I think you may have given me a possible solution by increasing the width of these timbers, and then moving both timbers ...
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... the scenic trackwork. Now this is something I've never done before, so I'm hoping somebody may be able to help and give me some guidance. I've used Templot to draw out the track plan and make sure everything works, I'm lucky in having a large area to use, fortunately. But before I start spending time on the detailed aspects and actual building, would anyone be prepared to look over the Templot file for me and check for any major mistakes I may have missed? Its things like: will signals fit between adjacent tracks, and whether coaches may catch on curves etc.. There are a few places where I have used diamond crossovers to represent double or single slips (or simply crossed straight tracks to represent crossings) because I'm not sure how to achieve slips, as yet. Any help and constructive comments would be welcomed. Rich Edit: Added Templot File Attachment: attach_2266_2872_160416-Marsh_Lane_Yard_Ver2.box 357 Last edited on 27 Apr 2016 21:15 by RK posted: 27 Apr 2016 21:58 from: Martin Wynne Hello Rich, Welcome ...
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... . You may need some trial and error on the turnout angle and position to get the desired result. If you attach your .box file instead of a screenshot, I can be more specific and try some sizes for you. regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_2409_3008_high_road_2017_04 _12_0757_48.box 263 posted: 12 Apr 2017 18:32 from: Martin Wynne Hi Panos, Thanks for the file. I changed the turnout to a B-8 and moved it forward a little. I changed to a curviform V-crossing. I set the adjacent track centres to 28.12mm to match your plan. Then tools> make ladder crossover> make curviform ladder. Then tools> make branch track, and make transition to link back to the existing track. The result is an irregular diamond-crossing having angles 1:5.46, 1:4.5, 1:3.89 At 1:4.5 fixed K-crossings this will be far more reliable with the wide N-gauge flangeways than your original flatter diamond, which would have needed to be a switch-diamond (movable K ...
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... that unless I consider all these aspects of planning first, I would end up with a nightmare build/modify phase. Your own experience/knowledge will avoid me making mistakes so I shall be very grateful for any help. 2184_210816_180000000.png Thank you for looking Best wishes Peter The full-size image is in the Image Gallery at: gallery/2184/original/2184_210816_180000000.png Attachment: attach_1520_2084_the_dale_2012_10 _21_1259_25.box 217 posted: 21 Oct 2012 16:46 from: PeterD oops, I have just found a reference to the minimum distance between the adjacent rail and a signal post- 5' 1". This obviously will force further changes to ensure my track spacings are correct. Sorry for posting prematurely but this is a good example of why it is always best to check before starting any build. I have two options- keep things as they are and use bracket signals in places of conflict or redesign to make compliant spacings. If anyone has any suggestions I would still like to hear from you so that these can be included in my re-vamp. Best ...
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... topic: 2179 Making 6ft Way 7 ft posted: 16 Mar 2013 12:52 from: Ian T Hi, I've been trying to develop a fairly complex double track station with 5 platforms that involves several double slips and lots of crossovers. Reading several of your threads the 6ft way is only nominal so I felt that I would be safer clearance wise if I improved the track spacing to 50 mm. I then set up the {gauge/ Scale selector- custom-a} to basically EM dimensions except adjacent track centres of 50 mm and Min radius of 900 mm. When I start creating track I get EM dimensions. The Gauge/ Scale selector shows "50.00 mm Adjacent track centres, T S. (44.67 in use)". 1. Where did I go wrong? and secondly how should I calculate the correct spacer ring diameter to check my spacings? (Or better still where should I have gone to find out the information?) Ian Trotter posted: 16 Mar 2013 14:11 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ian ...
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... topic 1500 Martin. posted: 11 Nov 2011 21:48 from: Martin Wynne Build# 4505 13-Nov-2011 bug-fix: some image file save dialogs were not responding to changes in the selected file type. Fixed. bug-fix: some items on the workpad right-click menu did not cancel a mouse action in force. Fixed. K-crossing wing rails: the wing rail length for K-crossings can now be customized. This controls the position of the wing rail joint marks and adjacent timber spacings: 2_131851_120000000.png If the wing rail length is changed significantly from the default settings, some timber shoving will be needed, and/or the addition of bonus timbers. Click the real> K-crossing options> customize K-crossings> K-crossing wing rails... menu item: 2_131838_050000000.png 2_130727_260000000.png 2_130728_000000000.png rail-foot edges: changes to make (slightly) faster output times. rail-foot edges: indicators added on workpad and storage box: To change the control template to flat-bottom rails ...
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... Oct 2017 10:04 from: Damien Morris 0eda7dda3d887297a0b1fb0a1ed4cfd0.p ng What is the best way to line up and bridge the 2 turnouts on 2 expanding parallel curves? Last bit needed before I have to go back over the layout and go through sleepers. Attachment: attach_2531_3107_conwy.zip 216 posted: 13 Oct 2017 11:50 from: John Palmer I would do it by making TL533 the control template, then making the crossover by using Tools -> make ordinary crossover. Before doing this, however, you need to adjust the turnout side adjacent track centre for TL533 so that the crossover thus formed aligns with the adjacent down main line (PR477). Because TL533 and PR477 aren't running parallel here, you will need to pick an arbitrary point on PR477 at which to measure its current offset from TL533 then make some adjustments after the crossover is created.2129_130634_140000000.png As the image shows, I picked a point on TL533 lying opposite the expected mid point of the crossover, slid the peg to this point with Ctrl-F8, placed the notch under the peg (backslash key ...
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... topic: 963 Adjacent track centres posted: 25 Oct 2009 13:35 from: Dave Summers I know that there is a function in Tools to adjust adjacent track centres, but does anyone have any guidelines as to how much the centres should be increased by? For example; in 7mm scale I plan a double track with minimum radius of 6ft. I want to ensure that should I run, say, 70ft stock on both tracks simultaneously I will avoid a 'coming together'. Is there a function that I haven't found that can give me this or do I calculate it by looking at chords and tangents of circles? Or does someone have a crafty 'rule-of-thumb' for this? I realise that bogie centres etc on each vehicle will influence the answer but I'm looking for a general solution. Any ideas? Cheers Dave posted: 25 Oct 2009 16:39 from: wcampbell23 Hi Dave If you are a member of the Gauge O Guild than I think that the information you need is in the handbook. Regards Bill Campbell ...
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... ? The information I have is all from the 1930's. Hi Andy, See: http://www.scalefour.org/downloads/gwrtracknotes/R4290A.pdf That is Paddington's 1959 re-drawing of the Standard Railway Equipment (REA) chair designs and contains a few differences in the dimensioning compared with the original SRC designs. Not enough to make a a difference in a model. The GWR and BR(W) always had to be different. AS1 is an ordinary chair. AS1J is a joint chair used on 12" wide sleepers adjacent to rail joints. I can't find an online source of the original 1923 designs. They are in the NERA reprint book of the LNER 1926 SRC Permanent Way drawings. regards, Martin. posted: 22 Jan 2016 04:45 from: Andrew Barrowman Martin Wynne wrote: Andrew Barrowman wrote: Can you point me at a list of the various chair types? The information I have is all from the 1930's. Hi Andy, See: http://www.scalefour.org/downloads/gwrtracknotes/R4290A.pdf That is Paddington's 1959 ...
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... posted a link. The impression I get is that CR switch design evolved a good deal more than did that on the North British, so apparently widespread was the use of the 12' NB switch to which I alluded. The problem I perceive with location of the joint between sleepers is that, unless the heel of the switch is supported by a heel plate such as that used by the North British, the load imposed by a passing wheel will tend to cause the switch to rotate in the vertical plane, the last adjacent chair through which the switch passes acting as a fulcrum. This may have the undesirable effect of causing the toe of the switch to rise above rail level. On the other hand, the drawing Martin has kindly posted of a heel joint on a chair shows just how difficult it must have been to mount any kind of spacer block to maintain that 2" clearance. Those difficulties are exacerbated by the bolts being fed through the fishplate from the side of the adjacent stock rail. I don't see how that can be done ...
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... clean up the check rails too, as the attached boxfile will show. Attachment: attach_1265_1720_aonach_mark_2_11 _12_10_1346_35.box 409 posted: 10 Dec 2011 14:51 from: John Palmer Jim, many thanks for the photograph of a 3-way at Crow Road. I agree that there seem to have been substantial similarities in the practices of the Scottish companies and I counted myself very fortunate to have encountered a North British interlaced turnout as late as the 1980's. At the time I measured it, its through-timbered replacement was lying on the adjacent loading bank, so it was an opportunity not to be missed. Re-examination of photographs available to me revealed a Lens of Sutton shot taken in the late 30's of a Yorkie tank departing Helensburgh, with an interlaced tandem in the foreground. Unfortunately it lacks sufficient depth of field to make interpretation of the timbering easy, but it appears to have a mix of standard nine foot sleepers and longer, heavier crossing timbers. As best as I have been able to divine it from the photograph, I have reproduced this ...
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... topic: 3091 ADMIN BUG WARNING: adjacent track centres- FIXED posted: 2 Oct 2017 23:00 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, There is a major fatal bug in 215c. DO NOT use the "pre-set" option when setting the adjacent track centres. Templot will crash and you will lose work. I will get this fixed and post an update overnight. Thanks to Rodger Chaplin for reporting it. I'm very sorry this has happened. regards, Martin. posted: 3 Oct 2017 00:14 from: Ian Allen Martin, Thanks for the warning. I must say it's the first instance I can recollect in 19 years where Templot would crash like this. We are all grateful for the work you do with Templot. Regards Ian posted: 3 Oct 2017 02:43 from: Martin Wynne Thanks Ian. Now fixed in 215d, I hope. Or at least, I have fixed the floating-point maths exception. But it should have been trapped without causing Templot to crash, and I need to look ...
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... the Russ Elliott page gives this as 12 timber bays for Southern Electric. To achieve this overlap: 10. Select a length of plain track where the overlap is to occur and create the pair of conductor rails from that template as above- or- take an existing length of conductor rail where it will be swapped over and delete it to the control. 11. Click real- timbering- no timbers but do not omit either rail as before. Click Main- save and background. 12. Do the same for the adjacent length where the swapping will take place. You should now have two adjacent templates both with the two conductor rails showing. 13. Return to the first template now on the background and Main-delete to the control. You may find you have to extract this from the Main -Storage box rather than trying to click the conductor rail template on the trackpad. 14. With the peg at the opposite end of the template (Ctrl-0 or Ctrl-1) to where the overlap is to take place, ...
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... . This makes a clearance on each side of 7ft-8in (92 inches) from the track centre-line (on straight track), matching the prototype minimum structure clearance. 2. run the dummy vehicle along the tracks, leaving a trail of dummy vehicle copies. Do this only on the constant radius sections, not within transition zones. Allow a bogie pin to run over a template boundary only if the radius is unchanged across the boundary onto the next template. 3. use the mouse action to adjust the adjacent track centres to align to the extent of the dummy vehicle copies. (This mouse action was introduced in 213a.) 4. do tools> make double-track to create a dummy track template along this line. For constant radius curves this is the clearance line. 5. if the curve includes transitions, do make transition on these dummy templates to create the final clearance line. Which sounds complicated, but is really quite simple. I will make a bit of video shortly showing it, but it may take ...
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... topic: 2761 New mouse actions -- adjust adjacent track centres posted: 19 Oct 2015 21:07 from: Martin Wynne Most of the recent changes in Templot have been to assist beginners. So I thought it was time to do something for established users who know what they are doing. I have added new mouse actions to adjust the adjacent track centres settings, instead of entering the dimensions directly. This makes use of the geometry> centre-line options> functions in order to see what you are doing, which means these need to be reset afterwards. The new mouse actions will be useful in two situations: 1. where you have some existing double track at an unknown spacing, and wish to create some connecting double track into which you can insert a crossover, say. 2. when using the dummy vehicle tool to determine the required spacing for running clearance at different radii. I have made a quick bit of scruffy video illustrating that: http://flashbackconnect.com/Default.aspx?id=r6BdZWxz5kk5ye1ek-P -Ag2 ( ...
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... Gordon S Hi guys, strange one that I need some help with. No doubt it is something obvious, but I can't see it... Printing off 30 odd pages and one page only has the rails missing and only shows the sleepers. I've tried most obvious things but cannot find the error. Any ideas? 479_170322_540000000.jpg posted: 17 Jun 2011 09:15 from: Jim Guthrie Gordon, I could be facetious and say "scrap thieves". But I note that there is also a rail missing on the adjacent page. Jim. posted: 17 Jun 2011 09:30 from: Martin Wynne Hi Gordon, That's very odd. There are no settings which can apply to an individual printed page. All settings are based on individual templates, or apply to all the pages. However, as Jim says it seems to be more than one page, and on the second page there is just a tiny fragment of rail showing at the top left. The settings to remove rails from a template are at do> omit rails and ...
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