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1. Chasewater
... : chasewater_p4.gif Chasewater .box file attached below -- just click the link. (If your browser displays it as meaningless text, right-click on the link instead and select "Save Target/Link As...") regards, Martin. Attachment: attach_18_chasewater.box 496 posted: 5 Jun 2007 17:24 from: rodney_hills Hello, Regarding Chasewater (sic). Alan Turner wrote:> For anyone interested I have uploaded a box file of the latest> Barry Norman plan- Chasewater. It's in P4.> ... appeared in 'Model Railway News' magazine in May 1957 (coincidence that, just about 50 years ago). Leigh remarks: From the modeller's point of view Chacewater has many points of interest, perhaps the first of which is simplicity of trackwork — reference to the station plan shows how a three-platform junc- tion station with goods yard is attained with nothing more complicated than points — six crossovers and a single turnout. I have scanned the 2 page article and attach the first page to this posting and the remainder to ...
... ,b ,c together- which cannot be the case- in which case, what are each of the three "poles" for, and what stops them being operated together? Best wishes, Howard Hi Howard. That is the problem of publishing one page of a manual intended for personal use out of context. I suspected that further explanation would be required. A,B ,C ,D are the four controller buses nominally available to switch to a track section. Ind is short for Industrial and is the power station empire. If you have operated the layout you will know what I mean by that. Controller D is permanently connected to this. Ex is short for extra and is unused at present. The three switch poles on section feeds 1- 12 are individual relay contacts. The long term plan was for micro processor control of the signal box interlocking and power feeds to sections 1 to 12 will be selected using 2 bit binary control, hence only one relay contact can be made at a time with "00" being off ...
... each system. Rob P.S. If you use a rubber lens hood you can 'distort' the hood with your hand while shooting if the sun is to one side. Easy to check the pic and take another if you were a little too heavy handed. posted: 27 Feb 2018 22:08 from: Rob Manchester Local Landscape this morning, blurry detail is due to the cheap phone 2001_271655_090000000.jpg This used to be the route by which the MS&LR( Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway) gained access to Manchester Central station. There was talk back in the 1950's of electrifying it to link with the Woodhead route electrics but it came to nothing. This link line closed completely in 1988 having been goods only for quite a while. Conversion to a cycle/foot route followed. Now its best use is as a pleasant 3 mile walk to Sainsburys for light shopping trips and a run for one of the dogs Rob posted: 27 Feb 2018 22:25 from: Nigel Brown John Lewis wrote: Fraser wrote:" It's quite an expedition ...
... correct size and join them together so to speak with flexible track. I am not sure how to copy the file into here but will attempt to upload the original CJF design to illustrate my question better. Attachment: attach_291_458_Layout_01.jpg 6510 Last edited on 23 Jun 2008 11:24 by Paul Hamilton posted: 23 Jun 2008 11:29 from: Paul Hamilton By the way, this plan is to be resized from 12' x 10' as shown down to 11'6" x 9'. As such I will relocate the upper station as shown as the high level track at the bottom of the layout. This will be moved 12" down to sit right on top of the lower tracks. This will compensate for the loss of 12" in the layout in a North/ South direction and thus maintain original gradients. The 6" loss over 12' I don't see as a big deal at all and it should have little impact on the overall project. Also I am compressing things slightly in terms of width of the alyout around the room, ...
... 46 from: John Lewis Richard Singleton- on- the- Bend You do not say the period you are to model- will you have short 4-wheel coaches or ordinary 8-wheel ones? It is your railway and if the LBSCR made the mistake of not curving the line so a model will fit in your living room, then you put them right! The things to watch are the minimum radii, especially on the crossovers, and the spacing between the tracks on the curve. Do you know why the station had 4 platform faces? It does look an interesting plan. posted: 24 Feb 2010 17:37 from: Jim Guthrie Borg-Rail wrote: Curved turnouts= long turnouts. Curved Double Slips!!!= evener longer. Don't get me started on outside slips! Agreed. On the track plan I uploaded the other day, a simple crossover between the up and down main on a 53" radius curve requires a 1:16 crossing on the turnout on the outer line with its crossover road being just ...
... not such a good match: gordon_scans.png gordon_scans_a7.png I tried using these for the CJF terminus plan, and managed to fit it within your 5400mm space, without losing any platform length. The goods yard access needed a changed design to keep a long enough head-shunt, but otherwise it's a straight conversion to 1:7 angle of CJF's original design. But it does look rather angular, and the sharp approach curves look very cramped. It would obviously be much more attractive and create a longer-look effect to put the station throat on a gentle curve transitioning into the approach curves. It would probably allow slightly longer platforms too. But doing that with your existing straight turnouts will be quite a task. Even more impressive would be to have the whole terminus on a gentle curve. But that would add the challenge of building a curved train shed. Perhaps a straight train shed with curved platforms beyond it would be a sensible compromise? cjf_terminus2.png cjf_terminus2a.png cjf_terminus2b.png (Slip roads not added.) So the first question is how many of these straight A ...
... topic: 1100 Birmingham New Street Station Layout Plans c1938 posted: 8 Apr 2010 15:53 from: Brian Nicholls Hi All, I am trying to obtain the layout plans of Birmingham New Street Station circa 1938 (or would be happy with plans between say 1934 to 1950 since, I believe the layout remained fairly constant throughout that period except for bomb damage and subsequent repairs). I am seriously considering this as a project modelled in P4 fine scale prototypical. I have already contacted Jim Smith-Wright whom you may know from P4newstreet.com. Jim has modelled a very fine example of this station in it's current modern state (electrification and all), and as I said to him, I really admire his attention to detail on the model. Jim stated that he new little of the older station (prior to the 1964 re-construction) but has kindly offered some drawings and information on certain parts of the station that have remained, relatively speaking, as was. However, my main stumbling block is I have no track or building layout ...
... the layout had several design constraints, the main one of which was that it had to be the same overall size as Long Preston. 5cms longer and it won't go into my church when it gets put up for testing. The curved river bridge had to lead into the fiddle yard and that meant that I couldn't have it viewed from the river side which would have looked nice visually. There have been several changes to the geometry but the overall layout with the branch to Lancaster Castle and the shed have been kept. The station is almost exactly the correct size with a main building over 5' long. The hatched area is the shed but I haven't had time to put it in its correct alignment. Last edited on 3 Oct 2009 06:46 by Jamie92208 posted: 3 Oct 2009 12:42 from: Nigel Brown Jamie Unless I've missed something, I can only see a bgs file attached, not a box. cheers Nigel Last edited on 3 Oct 2009 12:43 by Nigel Brown posted: 3 Oct 2009 20:35 from ...
... topic: 542 Bristol Temple Meads Old Station posted: 12 Sep 2008 13:28 from: Stumpytrain +++ This topic suffered corruption in the database and has been recompiled. +++ Hello, With a view to entering the 2mm Scale Association Layout Challenge I've been working on producing a plan to form a suitable base for Templot templates to be produced over. My chosen prototype is the "Old Station" at Bristol Temple Meads, which for those that don't know it can be seen here: http://tinyurl.com/5xywn4 As the track is entirely under an overall roof the track arrangement unfortunately doesn't show on Ordnance Survey plans. However, I recently chanced across a 1908 plan in the GWR Magazine. Although my period of interest is the late 50s, early 60s as far as I can ascertain there were little or no per way alterations since that time. Anyway, I've overlaid this GWR plan on an OS map and this is what I've achieved... templot1.jpg It took a bit of skewing and stretching but I'm very pleased with the result ...
... topic: 3604 Ventnor, I.o.W Question posted: 2 Feb 2020 00:29 from: Jim Guthrie A fellow SSMRS member has asked me about building some pointwork for a model of Ventnor, I.o.W- the tandem in the station throat and the two slips in the yard. At the moment I'm trying to identify what the slips actually were. From what few pictures I can find on the Internet, the slips look like normal slips but a BR plan of the station (attached) that I found shows the slips to be Barry slips. It appears that the track at the station was modified quite a lot over the years so it could be that the Barry slips existed at one time, to be replaced by "proper" slips at a later date. I'll also dig out my 1963 Constructors which has a series on the I.o.W railways. Jim. Attachment: attach_2985_3604_Ventnor-01.jpg 140 posted: 2 Feb 2020 01:32 from: Rob Manchester Hi Jim, There are some pictures of Ventnor in 'Isle of Wight Railways Remembered' by Peter ...
... topic: 2084 Dale Junction revised again posted: 21 Oct 2012 13:23 from: PeterD For reference: Original topic: topic 1836. The attached plan is very loosely based upon the Bath Green park in the station area. I have somewhat simplified the layout to reduce the dimensions but it should provide the essence of the operation. Intended operation Down passenger trains run into the Arrival Platform from the main line. Branch passenger trains use a branch platform or can be routed to the Arrival Platform across the up/down main running lines at the station throat. When passenger trains arrive, the locomotive is de-coupled and runs round the train to reach the engine shed area for servicing and turning as necessary. The Station Pilot takes the coaches to Carriage Sidings 1 or 2 releasing the platform. The Station Pilot assembles Up Trains from carriages in the sidings. The train locomotive then replaces the Station Pilot having been prepared at the engine shed area.Up passenger trains can be routed to either the main line or the branch line. Branch passenger trains are ...
... topic: 2589 Track Spacing in Stations posted: 3 Dec 2014 23:55 from: Godfrey Earnshaw I base my trackwork designs on the accepted default recommended distances of 6ft and 10ft separation. By this I mean straight parallel tracks will have a nominal 6ft way and tracks then the tracks outside this will have a 10ft way as will goods sidings. However, I also separate my tracks by 10ft in passenger stations, including terminals. This is my assumption, based on the possible requirement for staff to need access to couplings and hoses when joining/separating vehicles. Is my assumption correct? Thank you Godders posted: 4 Dec 2014 08:15 from: Martin Wynne Godfrey Earnshaw wrote: I base my trackwork designs on the accepted default recommended distances of 6ft and 10ft separation. By this I mean straight parallel tracks will have a nominal 6ft way and tracks then the tracks outside this will have a 10ft way as will goods sidings. However, I also separate my tracks by 10ft in passenger stations, including terminals. This is my assumption, ...
13. "Plan Y"
... 00 by Ian Allen posted: 23 Mar 2011 09:51 from: roythebus Looks good, what happens outside? posted: 24 Mar 2011 11:27 from: BeamEnds It's probably as intended, but.... in 'winter mode' you can't get back to the terminus in the middle without setting back- is that meant to be? posted: 24 Mar 2011 19:10 from: Ian Allen At bottom right of the plan are the connecting lines to another "shed", double track to a mainline station, inside double track rising to a high level station for the "electric" services, and three tracks (double main and goods loop) leading to another small station and goods yard. These are all laid with Peco and a couple of Markway double slips and will be staying as they are. The single line off the junction at top left will continue to run up to the present Bexhill, which will become a dedicated goods yard and occassional excursion destination. The through station in the new building is replacing the existing ...
14. Crewkerne LSWR
... topic: 577 Crewkerne LSWR posted: 30 Sep 2008 20:40 from: Brian Lewis +++ moved topic +++____ When you look at prototype plans you can see that there are regiments of stations just begging to be modelled. If I had not settled on Clifton Down, I would most probably have modelled Redruth. For those with space constraints, Compton on the DN &S or perhaps Rothbury on the NBR. posted: 30 Sep 2008 20:44 from: Martin Wynne Brian Lewis wrote: When you look at prototype plans you can see that there are regiments of stations just begging to be modelled. If I had not settled on Clifton Down, I would most probably have modelled Redruth. For those with space constraints, Compton on the DN &S or perhaps Rothbury on the NBR And for those without space constraints, a club perhaps, look at the shunting potential on here: crewkerne1250.jpg crewkerne1250_1.jpg I found this as a fold-out plan in a surveying textbook 40 years ago. I have only recently finally identified it ...
15. Clifton Down
... topic: 573 Clifton Down posted: 29 Sep 2008 01:39 from: Brian Lewis I find folk's dreams and aspirations fascinating. Here is mine- my retirement 'job', The track plan is finalised and is a direct copy taken from a 1:1250 cadastral. The double track curve at the top is the main line. Clifton Down is a modellers dream. It sits in a bowl with road bridges at either end and buildings- many of which are still there, on the other two sides. The station building is huge and I was fortunate enough to obtain 1:50 detailed drawings. Traffic covered a wide range- a branch line to Severn Beach and freight, including banana and oil block trains to and from Avonmouth. 'Monkey Specials'- trains of school children visiting Bristol Zoo came from all over the UK. Due to an incident in one of the tunnels when an engine failed and the children panicked, it was decreed they they should be double headed. I have a photograph of a formation of ex LNER teak ...
... posted: 13 Feb 2010 17:34 from: Templot User -- --- from Neil Berrington -- --- I am struggling with Templot a tad. (I'm a biomechanical kind of fellow, so CAD design escapes my limited intellect) The time investment in learning the program is significant. Is there anyone who is able to produce a Templot file for me? (Lazy bugger that I am.) The tricky area is really the flow of the goods yard- almost tandem turnouts. I attach the station in question- Corfe Castle, Dorset. 46_131232_230000000.png (Click the link in the Image Gallery to see it full-size.) Neil Berrington Canada posted: 13 Feb 2010 18:06 from: Paul Boyd Hi Neil Before anyone can offer help, there's two vital bits of info needed. Firstly, the easy one, which scale/gauge are you modelling in? The second- there's no scale on the map you posted. Do you have any known dimension to get a scale from? Platform length? Sizes ...
... 09:15 from: LSWRArt On a Railway History course, Dr. David Amos of Nottingham University showed the enclosed photograph of bullhead rail on stone sleepers at Over& Wharton (Winsford, Cheshire) on the LNWR. 2201_150413_300000000.jpg David thought that the bullhead rail had been laid in place of old tramway track, on stone blocks which originally supported fishbelly rail. But when I started to research this it appeared there was no tramway at this location. A local historian (Tony Bostock) has no knowledge of a tramway near the station; and there seems to be no obvious reason why a trammay should be so close to the town. There were extensive salt workings, but these sent the salt down to barges on the navigation by chutes. When the railways came there were works sidings which came directly off the branch lines, not via the station. I found an article in which Paul Hurley says that the LNWR used stone blocks experimentally instead of sleepers, so can anyone else support this statement, or were these simply old tramway blocks being re- ...
... topic: 751 Box Room Layout Design. posted: 4 Mar 2009 23:20 from: Scott Willis Hi Guys You may remember my previous posting regarding a layout designed to fit in my railway room. Like most modellers, available space in which to build a layout is limited. For me it is a small box room measuring 10'x9'. The design is based on a small North British Railway urban terminus, in S-Scale. To give maximum running in a small room, the station area is spread around the room in a 'u' shape with the fiddle yard situated outside in the hallway. Of course, the fiddle yard will only be erected for running sessions. The inner two lines are the 'up' and 'down' lines,the third outer most line entering the fiddle yard leads to an imaginery off scene goods yard and loco shed. The outer most line leads to an imaginery off scene harbour. There have been some slight changes made to the original design, timbers have been shoved and check rails adjusted. Working from ...
... win any prizes: 2_292139_500000000.gif I saved it as a GIF image with transparent background. And this is what it looks like inserted on the sketchboard as a bitmap item. I rotated it into line with the track, stretched it to the correct size, and gave it a little transparency to show the internal track: 2_292139_510000001.png Now such objects can be drawn directly on the sketchboard with vector precision if desired. But it would be great to have a selection gallery of such clip-art items ready to just pick and place. Station buildings, engine sheds, signal boxes, water towers, cattle docks, coal drops, trees, etc. In a variety of sizes and attractive styles, perhaps some based on real locations. What's fairly clear is that I'm not the one to do the drawings! Can you do better? You can't do much worse than me. You could post them here in this topic via the image gallery. They need to have transparent backgrounds, so GIF format is the best option. If you keep them within 800 x ...
... have covered the absolute basics and brought people round to the Templot style I think it is important to give users some specific track design methods/worked examples as many may come to Templot( as Peco users wanting better prototype fidelity) and just want to design a single plan and then move off and build it only returning to Templot when the next new layout is due. The basic methods of making: Double track oval with passing loop and siding( like a Triang train set with a couple of track extension packs) Terminus station design- Minories type with double track/engine release/parels bay. Flowing single track terminus- aligning templates over a pre-drawn Template to ensure it flows nicely. Important, I think, to stress that Templot is intended to be( or is capable of being) used in other ways than just snapping single track items together or designing single templates. Rob posted: 28 Jan 2018 22:06 from: Martin Wynne Phil O wrote: I think it might help, if on the first link, you ...
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