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... topic: 1692 Custom Switch data input help posted: 18 Nov 2011 21:17 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Martin, I have a slight problem with the data of a custom switch, which is bugging me and I don't know what's causing it. The problem is as follows: I was making an LNWR 12ft straight heel custom switch from scratch, i.e. not copying a similar template into the slot, having completed the whole input sequence, when I checked the timber spacing using the shove timbers menu, I found that the S1 timber was backward (as in the custom menu dialog) by 2ins. and the centre line was in-line with the toe (blade front tip) of the switch, where the centre line of the timber should have been some 2ins. forward (as in the custom menu dialog) of the toe. Also the centre line spacing between the S1 and J1 timbers was wrong being, 2ft 2ins, instead of 2ft 4ins, which consequently put all the following timbers along the switch out, in a ...
... check rail setting posted: 16 Nov 2011 19:28 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Martin, It seems a day when things are going rather strange. I was just, a short while ago, adjusting the K wing and check rails of a half diamond template in the TDV, when I found the check rail did not adjust correctly. Now what I did, was the following: First I changed the length of the wing rail using the new K-crossing options menu, from 185.0 ins to 180.0 ins (the LNWR wing& check rails both being 15ft joint to joint& tip to tip respectively), when I clicked OK the wing rail changed to what seemed the correct position (and was in fact perfectly OK when measured with the ruler). I then changed the check rail using the same menu (the new K-crossing options menu), I changed the data from 185.0 inches to 180 inches, but when I clicked OK the rail changed length, but appeared to be shorter than the wing rail and did not line ...
... will mean bumping the version number to 0.95.a p.s. they are normally called K-crossing "wing rails" rather than stock rails. regards, Martin. posted: 6 Nov 2011 19:17 from: Brian Nicholls Martin Wynne wrote: Sorry, there has never been any adjustment of those. They are on the list of remaining details still needed on the new half-diamonds. HI Martin, Many thanks for the very prompt response. Any idea when this feature may be added to the program? Unfortunately, the LNWR used slightly different chair spacing at the K end, which put the rail joints a bit closer to the crossing point than to those already available (fixed) in the program, so need some adjustment some time to conform to prototype. p.s. they are normally called K-crossing "wing rails" rather than stock rails. Thank you for the correction in terminology. I think I need an updated railway dictionary. All the best, Brian Nicholls. posted: 6 Nov 2011 19:36 from: Brian Nicholls ...
... /8" 1.5/8" 3" code 41 BS-80R 5.1/4" 2.1/2" 5" code 69 BS-80A 5.1/4" 2.1/2" 4.5/8" code 69 regards, Martin. posted: 2 May 2009 12:20 from: Ian Everett Mick, I'm wanting to build a smaller turntable- I have no need for Pacifics at Bradford North Western. Can you point me in the direction of a plan for a smaller one suitable for an LMS ex-LNWR location? Ian Ian Everett Bottom Chapel Askrigg DL8 3HZ tel 01969 650180 http://clecklewyke.wordpress.com Luxury B&B in Herriot Country posted: 2 May 2009 12:47 from: Brian Lewis Ian Everett wrote: I'm wanting to build a smaller turntable- I have no need for Pacifics at Bradford North Western. Can you point me in the direction of a plan for a smaller one suitable for an LMS ex-LNWR location? Hi Ian, Have a look at: MetalSmith Ltd Dave has been producing a range ...
... :01 by Damien Morris posted: 10 Oct 2017 17:33 from: Rob Manchester Damien Morris wrote: As being new to templot, found the video showing how to convert intersection into diamond. Can you then convert the diamond into a double slip? Hi Damien, You can make double slips directly from the Tools>Make Slip>Make Double Slip menu option. I suspect somebody may come and suggest you practice the basic aspects of Templot before jumping in at the deep end. The track plan you have is from LNWR days( no date but quite likely circa 1890) so you may want to consult later plans if you intend modelling the station in LMS or BR days. Lovely location BTW. Rob posted: 10 Oct 2017 17:37 from: Martin Wynne Rob Manchester wrote: I suspect somebody may come and suggest you practice the basic aspects of Templot before jumping in at the deep end. Hi Rob, Who might that be? I am in fact just making some screenshots to reply to this shortly. Martin. posted: ...
... topic: 2870 Bullhead rail on stone blocks posted: 15 Apr 2016 09:15 from: LSWRArt On a Railway History course, Dr. David Amos of Nottingham University showed the enclosed photograph of bullhead rail on stone sleepers at Over& Wharton (Winsford, Cheshire) on the LNWR. 2201_150413_300000000.jpg David thought that the bullhead rail had been laid in place of old tramway track, on stone blocks which originally supported fishbelly rail. But when I started to research this it appeared there was no tramway at this location. A local historian (Tony Bostock) has no knowledge of a tramway near the station; and there seems to be no obvious reason why a trammay should be so close to the town. There were extensive salt workings, but these sent the salt down to barges on the navigation by chutes. When the railways came there were works sidings which came directly off the branch lines, not via the station. I found an article in which Paul Hurley says that the LNWR used stone blocks experimentally instead of sleepers, so can anyone else ...
... 3 Dec 2014 22:36 from: Richard_Jones Hi, I've got involved in yet another project!- Not sure yet whether it will turn into a complete layout, but at present it is planned as a diorama from the road overbridge to the end of the platforms.... My question is- shouldn't there be trap points on both the up& down mains at the respective ends of the platforms to prevent over-runs?- Wouldn't that be a basic BoT requirements, otherwise how did this joint GW& LNWR line get away with it? undefined 1763_031617_480000000.jpg posted: 3 Dec 2014 23:00 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, Generally traps are provided only on Goods lines. Passenger loops on single-track lines wouldn't normally have trap arrangements. Here for example is Rubery on the Halesowen Railway: RuberyStnfromDownHome.jpg© D J Norton. Image linked from this excellent site: http://www.photobydjnorton.com Cue a space for a catalogue of exceptions: Notice also in this pic the classic arrangement of yard access via a diamond crossing to ensure ...
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... post so please inform me of any inadvertent transgressions I may make. I'm attempting to design a modular railway, based on 4ft X 2ft units, that can be expanded over the years without ripping up too much of any earlier module, as space, time and money allow. (I hate throwing things away). The ultimate dream idea is to model a representation of Shrewsbury station, through to a fictional Cambrian Coast terminus, based on the 40's through pre-Beeching period; which allows at least GWR, LMS. LNWR,& BR livery. After due consideration I decided on XTrkCAD for the general design and Templot for the serious detail. I've decided on using an N gauge but since I'm more interested in trackwork than rolling stock I am having difficulty making a decision between code 55 and 40 and whether to go for finescale or not. I hope that someone is able to either answer, or provide some advice regarding the following questions:- 1) Assuming stock is not rewheeled with fine scale (2mm society or 2fs etc) but ...
... topic: 2388 Templot trackplan mastered -- output and export track plan- Not a clue posted: 25 Jan 2014 13:21 from: keithj15 Hi all Having spent a lot of time and research to create a track plan of the local LNWR station in Daventry, I now need to output a DXF file for the CAD designer at our local model club, so he can incorporate it into the final overall design for the baseboards and everything else. I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to export the DXF file but every time, whatever settings I tried i get no error message, but no file is created. I tried to create a PDF (well within the Acrobat reader limits) but whatever I did no file was created. I tried printing to my epson A3 printer, which either failed to print anything or spat out a blank sheet. I am at a loss to understand where i am going wrong, having printed and created files without problem from an earlier version of Templot2 a couple of years ago. I have trawled through ...
... topic: 1787 Templates in a storage box posted: 14 Jan 2012 21:42 from: grahambeare I have been given a box file containing some templates for LNWR switch and crossing work. I have read through all of the Templot Companion pages and I am still at a loss as to how to make use of the box templates. For example:- how do I print one template from the box? Where are beginners meant to start in regard to understanding how to use Templot? Thank you, Graham posted: 14 Jan 2012 22:25 from: Rob Manchester Hi Graham, Go to: http://templot.com/companion/ Start by clicking on either of the New User guides in the left hand menu. Rob posted: 14 Jan 2012 23:00 from: Martin Wynne grahambeare wrote: Where are beginners meant to start in regard to understanding how to use Templot? Hi Graham, It rather depends on what you want to use Templot for. Some beginners just want to print out some typical templates to practice model track ...
... fiddle around to get things to fit, so following that is prototypical practice! Nigel I think it was originally somewhere in this forum that I picked up the following apposite comment, reputedly by Cyril Freezer in 2000, writing about Percy Keen on the 90th anniversary of the MRC.... "One of his tales, very apposite in view of Alan Blackburn's recent talk, related how, before WWI, a friend had a problem with crossing timbers on a piece of complex trackwork. They were due to ride on the LNWR inspection train, and there duly put the problem before the district engineer. He admitted he had no idea which alternative configuration was correct, but added that they were shortly to be joined by the division's most experienced ganger. Since the LNWR with some justification boasted the best permanent way in the world, he would know the answer. The ganger duly boarded the train, was introduced all round and then informed that these gentlemen had a problem for him. He studied the drawing for some time, removing his bowler hat and ...
... Nicholls Hi Martin, First let me say that I am very appreciative of your Templot Club Forum. It is the first item I view when I first switch on my PC and connect to the internet, and the last thing just before I turn the PC off and go to bed. It has given me great pleasure and substantially increased my knowledge base over the years. However, to the point. This is an idea I have had for several months now, but in that time, I have been heavily committed with LNWR society work preparing drawings for articles in the society journals. Ever since you issued Templot2 (and before), you have been answering queries on the forum, particularly to beginners and new users. Your responses have been very detailed indeed, and in just about every case solved the issue at hand. Now my idea is, to carefully go through all your postings with those detailed explanations relating to Templot2, and collate them into a document that could be turned into either (or both) a PDF doc, and or ...
... -symmetrical by moving one of the crossovers in relation to the other, which re-arranges the positions of the crossing noses and can sometimes make the checking better. Jim. posted: 25 Feb 2011 17:36 from: geoff Jim, Thanks for your interest. I may well have to try that. Again. You don't know how many times I've been round the loop. My source is the OS1250 map from 1960. Better than nothing but the line thickness creates an uncertainty. I have a 480-scale LNWR drawing from the time when the trackage was widened from 2 to 4 running lines. My drawings show a carriage-shed with only 3 roads and a different path for the left to right path through this "scissors". At that stage their drawing shows an outside slip associated with the 1 in 4 diamond further up. This LNWR drawing I have must represent a stage in the development. When the shed requirement became 4-road the outside slip became unworkable and this "scissors" became the least bad solution. ...
... 3mm/ft with the 6' 4" truck: 528_180433_210000000.jpg Nigel Hello Nigel Thats a beautiful little model, is it yours, and if so have you a later finished version of it? I have one, unbuilt from Blacksmiths, in my stash. A very attractive cosy little coach! Andrew posted: 21 Dec 2020 22:00 from: Rob Manchester Hi Nigel, Nice little coach- agree with Andrew. Does the lack of a central pivot mean the "bogies" are actually radial trucks as used by the LNWR and Metropolitan for example. I assume they have a side control mechanism that allows them to move laterally into a curve. Must check my sources- I feel I should know this Rob posted: 21 Dec 2020 22:53 from: Matt M. HI Rob, Your questions about the bogies was answered by myself and a_nummelin who also posted drawings to help explain. The Dean bogie has a pivot. It just doesn't bear any weight in the vertical plane. Regards, Matt M. posted: 22 Dec 2020 16 ...
... settings. This is not a new function, it was already on the storage box. But an entry on this menu is convenient, and also avoids the risk of failing to reset the option after use: 2_101512_160000002.png At the same time I have made the timbering data... menu item easier to find (it was previously at the bottom of the menu): 2_101512_160000001.png In the next program update. Martin. posted: 10 Apr 2015 20:53 from: Trevor Walling Hello Martin, That will be great for LNWR 60` panel joints and other pre-grouping companies and make mixing pre and post grouping along with more recent nationalised BR track a lot easier. Regards. Trevor. posted: 10 Apr 2015 21:39 from: Rob Manchester Martin, Great, many thanks for adding this. Rob Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Sleeper widths at rail joints about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A ...
... had gone to 45' lengths by cutting off the requisite numbers of sleepers per panel. I do understand to a certain extent the market has several types, these do have keys which I understand others don't plus the base is far superior than the old C&L and SMP bases posted: 26 Sep 2018 14:18 from: Martin Wynne Thanks John. Here's a list of pre-group companies which used 12" sleepers with wider joint chairs at rail joints: G&SWR GCR GER GNR *L &YR LNWR *MR *NER SE&CR*= with ordinary chairs at joints. Information from C. J. Allen, 1915. Martin. posted: 2 Oct 2018 06:59 from: madscientist I can't quite see the rationale for another OO track entrant myself. This would be doubly true if the pricing is significantly different to the other offerings. Exact track fidelity or worrying about chair key direction is not the hallmark of most OO modelers Last edited on 2 Oct 2018 07:00 by madscientist posted: 2 Oct ...
... conjunction with shorter 9" 2-hole fishplates so that the joint sleepers could be very close together, typically at 15" centres with only a 3" gap between them. The theory being that strength in the rail support was more important than strength in the fishplate. Generally the theory fell out of favour in the light of experience. Here's a list of pre-group companies which used 12" sleepers at rail joints, mostly with wider joint chairs on them: G&SWR GCR GER GNR *L &YR LNWR *MR *NER SE&CR*= with ordinary chairs at joints. Information from C. J. Allen, 1915. In the post-grouping period their use fell away because it was not found to provide any advantage in reduced maintenance of rail joints to justify the extra cost. Except in special circumstances -- by 1926 the LNER drawings say "Special joint sleepers 12" x 5" may be used where the formation is soft or where the traffic is specially heavy and fast". Their drawing shows ...
... few compromises. This is a rough and I will need to tidy it up a bit, but that's later We plan to make a half size card mock up, just to have an idea of what goes where and has it a balanced look. At the Stanmore end we plan to make a representation of the narrow gauge railway used by the contractors building the housing The club has had to move premises and are planning to make a quickie layout based about the 30's LMS period. (I hope they will let the odd LNWR loco on) It will be built to 00-sf using the Exactoscale plastic track parts and fastrack bases. The reasoning behind this is the strength given with these components and detail that can be achieved. As it will not have a permanent home and hopefully will go on the exhibition circuit. We have quite a bit of detail but would like more on both the station buildings and signal box Attachment: attach_2153_2737_Belmont_station_4 .box 237 posted: 11 Oct 2015 14:03 from: Jubilee42 Hi This is a separate but vaguely related ...
... fitted into a smaller space and used as a background guide for track planning in Templot. What a wonderful addition. I could have made great use of it recently when doing Twyford for Brian Lewis who wanted the original plan curved. I had to fudge it in the Gimp, it worked but was an pain to do. This looks simple and elegant. Regards Raymond posted: 21 Jul 2011 13:33 from: JFS Wow, This is a bit amazing! For a prototype Curved Goods shed, how about the former LNWR shed at Oldham Clegg Street? It is a listed building (which has not stopped it falling down!) because it is curved, which suggests such things are rare- though equally, not non existent! Many thanks for this, Howard. posted: 18 Feb 2012 18:26 from: dessire_luvals That is an amazing function both of you. posted: 19 Feb 2012 14:02 from: LSWRArt Hi Howard, Is there a web link to a photo of the curved goods shed? Would be interesting to ...
... writes on the trackwork email group today: Members of this group may be interested to know that I have created and put on the Internet a new website which is about old permanent way. See http://www.oldpway.info or Google oldpway. At present there is relatively little on the new website, but I have hundreds of drawings, photos and details to add over the coming months. Already on there are drawings of points and crossings used in 1900 by various railway companies including the GER, GNR, GWR, GCR, LNWR, LSWR, LYR, NER and many others. These drawings have not previously been available. I hope some people will find the oldpway website useful, even in its current "under construction" state. Happy reading! Ernest Bate Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Prototype pics> New trackwork web site about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information ...
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