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... exactly matched one turnout you can move on to the next. Whichever approach you adopt, avoid closing in on the detail too early. You don't need to add in slip roads or shove conflicting timbers until the overall design is finalized. Otherwise you risk wasting a lot of work when you realise that the parcels dock is too short or the goods shed ... than 50% of the proper length. So laying out the curves first can be a big help. Not to mention knowing in advance that to get round into the fiddle yard at 42" radius will mean doing without one of the carriage sidings. On the other hand Templot makes it easy to overdo things. Putting a 20-metre radius in ... A4 which you scanned in as a rough guide, you do need to lay out the overall curves and mark key locations first. Otherwise it's difficult to know which size of turnout is the most likely to fit where. On the other hand, for a detailed 40ft rating plan showing the position of the switch toes and crossings, brick-by- ...
... available width. I think it's unlikely that access to the engine shed would require turning the table. It's more likely that the engine shed would be on one of the through roads across the turntable. regards, Martin. posted: 18 Jan 2012 11:49 from: KeithArmes I know this is a long time after the original post, but 24 ... : Martin Wynne Hi, The problem with using a program such as Illustrator is that you can end up with some impossible curves, as Alan explained. The turnout into the yard by the signal box looks impossibly sharp. A tandem turnout there might work better. To get a full 180 degree turn in a width of only 720mm will require an extremely ... :58 from: Martin Wynne Hi, The problem with using a program such as Illustrator is that you can end up with some impossible curves, as Alan explained. The turnout into the yard by the signal box looks impossibly sharp. A tandem turnout there might work better. To get a full 180 degree turn in a width of only 720mm will ...
... though as the wing rails at the first crossing vee seem to be quite a way from the Vee. You also have part of a rail missing on the left hand turnout road. I'd change the V4 points at the top of the plan though, a 14" radius isn't brilliant! Ian posted: 21 Feb 2012 22:55 from: alangdance ... need. This is not a great issue as I can add the correct lenght when building. The point at the top is a med peco point which leads into a fiddle yard (I just the size point that came up when starting. Alan posted: posted: 21 Feb 2012 23:50 from: Ian Allen Alan, I've just had a ... : 21 Feb 2012 16:18 from: alangdance Just finished (I think!!!) my 1st complete layout design with Templot. I have on ever designed single turnouts before. If anybody has any spare time could they look over it to see if it is OK and if there is any improvements that could be made. Regards Alan Attachment ...
... I mentioned, the geometry on circular curves is not the difficult part. The difficult bits are a. doing the maths for transition curves, slewing zones, and the turnout roads through double junctions; b. deciding on an acceptable allowance for model discrepancies such as end-play in axle-boxes, off-centre bogies, body-sway, ... of the weekend using this new function I have to congratulate Martin on his brilliant idea. It took me less than half an hour to discover that the clearances in my fiddle yard were insufficient for what I wanted to achieve. Result, complete re-draw, much easier (and cheaper) than fining out the hard way when it's built. Next ... as I mentioned, the geometry on circular curves is not the difficult part. The difficult bits are a. doing the maths for transition curves, slewing zones, and the turnout roads through double junctions; b. deciding on an acceptable allowance for model discrepancies such as end-play in axle-boxes, off-centre bogies, body-sway ...
185. PDF Export origin
... allow for the effect of that in the larger scales. The reason that your PDF is failing is that some of your sketchboard items are over the size limit -- the road features, for example. At 600 DPI any item much over 1000mm* in width or depth is likely to fail. That can be increased by reducing the DPI, but ... written the Sketchboard docs, because there are so many ifs and buts, I hardly know where to start. Printing full-size templates for 7mm scale with sketchboard items several yards long, as you are doing, is obviously very different from preparing a small half-page diagram for a magazine article about a shunting layout in 2mm scale. The sketchboard ... tried PDF output at 100 dpi and it works fine, but it will output at any higher resolution. One I get down to track building I will only print out a turnout, or a small group of templates and I do not need to see the Sketchboard. For me, the resolution and quality needed for layout planning and for track construction are ...
186. Barry slips at Barry
... and I just started off with a template of the turnout I wanted then copied it and rotated the copy by 180 degrees and placed it on the original, aligning the main roads. I then shuffled the copy back and forth until I got a position which gave operational clearance to the switches. I think it only took about a minute to do- ... ). It is credited to Associated British Ports and the caption reads "Coal for shipment circa 1930 shown here at the Tredegar Park Sidings, one of the Alexandra Docks numerous yards. The wagons bearing the initials 'EV' are from Ebbw Vale collieries, while those marked JL are from John Lancaster Company, which had collieries at Blaina, Cwmtillery and Griffin ... plans for a double-slip and leave bits out. Roger, I've drawn and built a couple of the Barry slips and I just started off with a template of the turnout I wanted then copied it and rotated the copy by 180 degrees and placed it on the original, aligning the main roads. I then shuffled the copy back and forth until ...
... couple of other things that I am not clear on. I can see why the curved turnout stock rail needs some straight at the point blade to make the planing sit in right. The turnout diagrams show a begining of straight part just before the knuckle on one road. I understand why. But, When both roads of a turnout are curved, why dont we have the same straight areas of the main road to make a straight path through the crossing. When the turnout is a Y the the distiction becomes most curious ... added the works siding by adding a branch track from the loop to works siding. I have tried to make a transition to straight to make the end of the works siding straight. No matter which end I put the peg the straight always ends up at the turnout. The notch is there and I suspect that is why. I have tried adding the transition and doing end for end etc but nothing makes it right. Picture attached.1920_100452_420000000.png There are a couple of other things that I am not clear on. I can see ...
... . Modify track gauge (of the control template) from 32mm to 16.5mm. Remove the timbers (real-timbering-no timbering) At this point, the tie-bars are aligned, NG track is correctly 'sided' with the SG for the main-road (common stock rail), but the NG is centralised on the turnout-road. Now I start to encounter difficulties... I have tried roaming the NG turnout along the SG one and changing the NG v angle, but without any degree of ... topic: 2399 Dual Gauge Turnouts- Basic Principles? posted: 8 Feb 2014 21:17 from: Steve Bedding Hello Martin et al, I have been using Templot for a number of years for a several 2mm projects and although fairly happy that I can muddle my way through most simple tasks/functions, I have been asked to produce a plan for a 7mm dockside layout that incorporates both standard (SG) and narrow gauge (NG) lines; this has taxed my abilities beyond what I can achieve without guidance ...
189. Templot2 change log
... control template additional top tool buttons: "beginner buttons" for the most common mouse actions F9 mouse action adjusts V-crossing angle only, F10 adjusts K-crossing angle only There is a new adjustable option and CTRL+ F12 mouse action for the turnout-road exit, and the turnout road options have been moved from the do menu to the geometry menu support for gaunt turnouts and gauntletted track a dummy vehicle can be placed on the control template and adjusted to check and measure running clearances notch on intersection functions trackbed edges ... along the control template additional top tool buttons: "beginner buttons" for the most common mouse actions F9 mouse action adjusts V-crossing angle only, F10 adjusts K-crossing angle only There is a new adjustable option and CTRL+ F12 mouse action for the turnout-road exit, and the turnout road options have been moved from the do menu to the geometry menu support for gaunt turnouts and gauntletted track a dummy vehicle can be placed on the control template and adjusted to check and measure running clearances notch on intersection functions ...
190. yet another newbie
... try to do to much in one go all part of learning i suppose. posted: 26 Sep 2014 17:47 from: Brian Nicholls Hi Simon, I have had a go at your track plan and laid out as near as one can to the planned roads. See attached box file. However, your plan is somewhat distorted due to the original angle that the photo was taken, so had to make the best assumptions. I have kept your original adjacent track spacing the same as you had started, at 44.67mm ... info to see what can be done. All the best, Brian. posted: 25 Sep 2014 08:28 from: Hayfield Simon Like all things I tend to find the longest way round doing things. I would fit the bottom crossover and two left hand turnouts first, then fit the sidings. The straight ones and curved ends are separate lengths, then go about joining the top with the bottom posted: 25 Sep 2014 16:28 from: Tony W Hi Simon. Welcome to the Templot Club. What you ...
... topic: 2448 New mouse action: adjust turnout-road exit posted: 27 Apr 2014 20:29 from: Martin Wynne A long-standing niggle in Templot has been the limited range of options for the turnout-road exit. The existing options are: 1. normal -- the turnout road terminates at the prototype rail joint in the vee splice rail (CTRL-6 peg position, TVJP). 2. crossover -- the turnout road terminates at the mid-point of a crossover (CTRL- ... topic: 2448 New mouse action: adjust turnout-road exit posted: 27 Apr 2014 20:29 from: Martin Wynne A long-standing niggle in Templot has been the limited range of options for the turnout-road exit. The existing options are: 1. normal -- the turnout road terminates at the prototype rail joint in the vee splice rail (CTRL-6 peg position, TVJP). 2. crossover -- the turnout road terminates at the mid-point of a crossover (CTRL- ...
... Hayfield Martin Thanks I will try that as it might answer my question, sorry I did not explain my self clearly. Here is another go If I convert an A5 turnout to a Y turnout does the crossing angle of the Y become 1 in 10 for each road. If so could I use an A4 or A3.5 crossing so that the crossing angle of the Y turnout decreases to a 1 in 8 or 1 in 7 so that the difference between it and a standard A5 turnout is not so great. posted: 5 ... topic: 1585 Y turnout help please posted: 5 Aug 2011 18:43 from: Hayfield I need to build a Y turnout in EM to match an A5 turnout, they do not connect directly to each other but I need the Y turnout to be a bit smaller in size than the A5. As the crossing angle is increased by turning the standard turnout into a Y, what is the safeist smaller crossing angle I can use please Is it best to start with an A5 and reduce the size or stary with ...
... , although I'm not sure this worked out too well. There is a lot to say about tandem turnouts, and I can't put it all in one email. Tandems can be single or double-sided, and the second switch can be in either the main road or the turnout road of the first switch. Each of these need a slightly different approach. This example is a double-sided tandem with the second switch in the main road of the first. As always in Templot there are several different ways to achieve ... topic: 707 Some help please- 3-way tandem turnouts posted: 22 Jan 2009 17:56 from: Alberta, I have just copied the 3 way tandem turnout that Martin has added to the forum. Now my question is how do i use the template& add it from the boxfiles to the plan i am working on. I am totally baffled i have been trying this afternoon& i cant work it out. posted: 22 Jan 2009 18:10 from: Alan Turner Copy the file to your ...
... 10, you might need 2 templates here, as the check rails (at the vee end) from half diamond might overlap those from the vee set. I've had this a couple of times. I *think* also this template should have the diagonal-road check rails, rather than the main-road. It's all to do with what it's checking. But as I've said before, we'd use gauges for all this, so really it's just cosmetic. Otherwise good stuff :- D posted: 20 Apr 2011 ... it is a good way to learn about using partial templates, as I think most of the time we spend designing our track-work falls into this category. Simply put more time is spent on complex partial templates than all the straight forward plain track and simple turnouts that might appear on our layouts. All the best, Brain Nicholls. posted: 12 Apr 2011 15:51 from: Brian Nicholls Raymond wrote: I have had a good play with that and, for a complete beginner it should prove an excellent way ...
... rather grainy recording. The BBC programme in the background is doubtlessly copyrighted (sorry BBC). http://www.skoletube.dk/video/1509642/c1c04872725bd055eff4 Things I've learned include: Use track and check gauges at all times! It's quite difficult to make the turnout road smooth at the vee. It doesn't show it here, but the wagon snags slightly. I'm going to try repositioning the switch rail and the check rail very slightly It's complicated doing a combined pcb/plywood turnout, because of the chairs. The 0.5mm copper ... topic: 2781 Advice for a virgin trackbuilder! posted: 9 Nov 2015 22:11 from: Jubilee42 Hello everyone I have decided to build my own turnouts on my proposed 4mm OO-SF LMS (MR) layout with plywood sleepers and pcb under the vee (frog). I am totally new to this and nobody nearby (in Denmark) builds track! I have spent the last months getting to know Templot, and have now decided that the time has come to take the plunge and actually build something! ...
... tandems, containing about 59 ifs and buts. When preparing the 3rd template, consideration needs to be given to the required hand. Generally when finding the intersection you should run the peg along the flatter radius of the two rails, and this should become the main road of the 3rd template. You can then see which hand will be required for the 3rd V-crossing. In your case this needs to be a RH template, whereas the one you are trying is LH. When doing CTRL-4 on the 3rd ... topic: 2273 tandem turnouts again posted: 27 Jul 2013 12:26 from: stuart1600 I've been following the guidance in Martin's reply to Richard T. back in 2011 to produce the middle V-crossing for a tandem turnout; using Templot2. Unfortunately I must be misreading something because I can't get this to work as it appears it should from the guidance notes. I've also read the recent exchanges re:Brighton tandems, but still can't work out what I'm doing wrong. I've positioned the peg using CTRL-F8 ...
... a tandem turnout posted: 7 Jul 2013 19:34 from: TonyHagon I would be grateful for some help please.... I have been tearing what's left of my hair out with what should be a very simple set of templates... Six roads of the engine shed are fanned out from two sets of three way points and it's taken me days to work out the geometry. I have mastered one three way point (and discovered along the way that the OS map and what's on the ground aren't necessarily ... topic: 2253 Brighton: struggling with a tandem turnout posted: 7 Jul 2013 19:34 from: TonyHagon I would be grateful for some help please.... I have been tearing what's left of my hair out with what should be a very simple set of templates... Six roads of the engine shed are fanned out from two sets of three way points and it's taken me days to work out the geometry. I have mastered one three way point (and discovered along the way that the OS ...
198. Questions on the basic fundamentals on prototype (and scale model) turnout dimensions and design met
... various options. I think my main concern was, when alignment to the plan of the turnout side was not achieved, it meant that I had to shift the mating track connection to connect squarely with the turnout end, this in turn resulted in the whole turnout road going off track (forgive the pun !) and causing, in some cases, the adjacent track-work to be too close for comfort, or the turnout road to collide with track-side objects. All of this is, of course, brought ... topic: 1377 Questions on the basic fundamentals on prototype (and scale model) turnout dimensions and design met posted: 20 Feb 2011 15:04 from: Brian Nicholls Hi All, Please excuse me for asking what might seem to be some dumb questions, but something has been bugging me for a little while now. First let me explain why I am asking the questions, on several occasions I have been placing turnouts onto my background track layout plan, and have found that in these cases, no matter what I ...
... of 3-way turnout described in your scan are called "3 -throw" turnouts (with the two switches combined), and "tandem" turnouts (with the switches staggered as shown). 3-throw turnouts were used only to save space in yards, never in running lines. They were much used on the old Midland Railway, but not so much elsewhere. They are not used in modern track. But 3-way tandem turnouts were very common in bullhead track and are still used today. The ... lovely wife taking up duathlon racing requiring part of my garage to become a racing bike storage and maintenance area. I have no idea if I did this correctly but it turned out pretty much like I wanted it, that is to print full size and build my turnouts in place without the need to standard templates. A couple of the turnouts have slight curves and others are "inbetween" sizes (ie not #5, #6 etc)- BTW, I model US track hence the numbers. Attached to this message ...
... the same, but there is lots of wriggle room for the centre and right hand exits posted: 19 Aug 2014 20:57 from: Brian Nicholls Hi John, See if this 3 way fits your bill. See attached box file I have marked the exit roads in yellow that align with my 3 way. The underlying templates are your originals. The 3 way is still in the same position on the left, as you requested, but I have changed the centre-road radius to give this result. All clearances ... 04 from: Hayfield I have tried without success to make the rail breaks in the stock rails which go through a 3 Way's common crossing. Other than needing to alter slightly one of the Common crossings (next job after this one) I have nearly finished the turnout. I have kept watching the tutorial but now have completely lost the plot and cannot see for looking. Please could someone very kindly type out the key actions I need to use to make the rail breaks in the stock rails. Thank you posted: 17 ...
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