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... beyond the goods shed? I can see it might serve as a means of releasing some wagons from that end of the shed, but only if the siding beyond the shed road is kept clear, which doesn't seem me to be that useful. Any ideas? posted: 14 Feb 2010 15:50 from: Dellboy Nigel Brown wrote: Just as ... . Is there anyone who is able to produce a Templot file for me? (Lazy bugger that I am.) The tricky area is really the flow of the goods yard- almost tandem turnouts. I attach the station in question- Corfe Castle, Dorset. 46_131232_230000000.png (Click the link in the Image Gallery to see it full-size. ... Neil Berrington Canada posted: 13 Feb 2010 18:06 from: Paul Boyd Hi Neil Before anyone can offer help, there's two vital bits of info needed. Firstly, the easy one, which scale/gauge are you modelling in? The second- there's no scale on the map you posted. Do you have any known dimension to get a ...
... gauges, and I am sure would be useful to many users in the larger scales. We also have a large 5/7.25" gauge track. By ignoring the straight road the original request would also be met. What do you think? Kind regards to Martin and all Temploters Peter posted: 16 Sep 2019 20:32 from: Martin Wynne ... : RedgateModels Thinking about things how common is this approach of using 1 switch blade and a matching half K for controlling the route? I expect it would only be confined to yards etc as the security of two switches on main running lines is obvious. Seems like a reasonable approach for yards etc though as reducing the moving parts in turnouts would reduce maintenance ... gauge 9mm and 16.2mm posted: 10 Sep 2019 09:39 from: RedgateModels I'm planning a small layout with dual gauge standard and narrow gauge trackwork, this will involve some turnouts, with the narrow gauge track joining and leaving the standard gauge section, but also a custom built standard gauge turnout too. Will be using code 80 rail throughout (I ...
... my new train room is finished (well almost finished) and work is in progress on the fiddle yard, a 7' 6" three track turntable with three additional storage roads leading from one of the movable roads. This is all concealed track using code 148 FB rail. The sceniced part will be in code 124 BH and I will need several ... another year before we see it! I hope that they hurry up because my new train room is finished (well almost finished) and work is in progress on the fiddle yard, a 7' 6" three track turntable with three additional storage roads leading from one of the movable roads. This is all concealed track using code 148 FB rail. ... topic: 722 Peco 7mm Scale Turnouts. posted: 4 Feb 2009 17:16 from: Jim Guthrie Has anyone drawn up equivalents of the Peco Streamline 7mm scale turnouts in Templot? I'm particularly interested in the standard turnout and the curved turnout. I haven't got any of the pointwork to do my own measurements and reasonably accurate templates would be a ...
... day, a simple crossover between the up and down main on a 53" radius curve requires a 1:16 crossing on the turnout on the outer line with its crossover road being just over 43" radius. I did try to get a larger inner radius by trying for even higher crossing numbers but Templot seemed to object. If you do go ... the real thing! However it has thrown up another dilemma as to whether I should build the layout "to plan" or as my "curved version"- without fiddle yard (or return curves) I would need 23', but then wouldn't be able to run the layout at home.... I shall have to end up with ... (occasionally) In a nut shell, does any one have any comments on the "model of a railway" versus the "model railway" approach Also some of the turnouts look very long- does anyone know what sort of geometry the LBSC would have used to lay out the track in the 1880s? (ie preferred crossing angles) any hints ...
... the drawing. One big problem with three-throw turnouts is that they often result in the V-crossings being opposite each other and therefore not properly checked for the middle road. That's just about acceptable for a straight turnout, but not a curved one like this. Derailments would be inevitable. That's why I used different crossing angles in each road ... 20:58 from: Richard Lambert Hi Alan I've now tried it in place, and It's a huge turnout! It looks far too, well, spread out in the yard. I had in my mind something far more cramped. If the inner radius is tightened to say 5' (and whatever seems best for the other 2 radii- 7'6 ... topic: 911 3-throw turnout for Richard Lambert posted: 26 Jul 2009 17:29 from: Alan McMillan IMPORTANT NOTE- 3-WAY TURNOUTS This topic is about three-throw turnouts. 99% of 3-way turnouts are not three-throw turnouts. They are tandem turnouts. Three-throw turnouts are tricky to build and ...
... adjust the 'V' angle using F5 to suit where you want the branch track to go, which keeps the radius at or above your minimum radius. If one of the roads carries passengers use the larger switch, if not use the smaller switch. If both roads carry passengers I try to use a 1 in 10 crossing if I have the room ... are some general guidelines, but of course LPTB requirements differ from other standard-gauge railways. Generally: "A" switches are not used in running lines, only in yards, depots, sidings. "B" switches are used for low-speed connections such as trailing crossovers, access to yards, etc. "C" switches are the ... Angle to use when setting up at the beginning, as this layout is based on LPTB (ie pre London Underground). Looking at "Prototype pre-nationalisation bulkhead track turnout data" by Brian Oldford and Keith Norgrove (see http://www.clag.org.uk/protodata-bullhead.html) shows that the LPTB used a range of switch types and Crossing Angles ...
... . 6. You can now follow the guide instructions from 3.0005.1 onwards for all four switch blades, using the one you just stored and saved, and then add the slip roads as described later in the guide. style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f8fcff" I'm sorry it's a little late now, but if you need further instructions, post ... newer stuff). I also have UP plans for a #10 turnout using 29' 11" switchpoints, but thats for a mainline switch and this is just for a yard entry switch just after leaving the main. So I think Ill go for 19' 6" points. If someone is interested the UP drawings can be found here, though ... 1:32 (B) switch for 1:7 slip> (or if you wish another ratio select that) and click OK. Problem is I use custom american turnouts (dont ask me the exact measurements, I just used some old ones I found in a box file here on the forum) Do you have any tips for what I ...
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... becomes confusion. Hi Trevor, Tandem turnouts are not simple. They can be straight or curved. They can be double-sided (opposite hands), where the middle road is the main road for both switches. Or single-sided (both the same hand), where an outer road is the main road for both switches. Or they ... to shorten the length, or the flare length, or both, of check and wing rails without affecting the working performance too much, especially in low-speed locations in yards and sidings. You can also change from the usual bullhead bent flared ends to machined flares on straight rail. This is less common prototypically because it means making a special rail ... in conjunction with the following from the Yahoo Templot group which I believe would be of help. Here's how to get started with a tandem: 1. Set up you first turnout, say a B8 LH, and store it on the background. 2. Get your second turnout, say an A6 RH, as the current template, and set it ...
... but couldn't find the topic again to reread it. What suggestions can you make for deciding which turnout settings work together sensibly? All the examples I've seen are for the middle road being the main road. I'm particularly interested in curved turnouts where either of the outer roads are the main road. I haven't been able to work out how to achieve this ... 2 types: 1. three-throw turnouts. In this case both switches are coincident. They are difficult to build and prototypically rare -- used only in sidings and yards, and not at all for many years: 2_280950_180000000.jpg 2. tandem turnouts. In this case the switches are staggered so that the second switch is placed beyond the heel of ... and 3 ways posted: 12 Jul 2012 20:26 from: dave turner Hi In my neverending quest to learn about trackwork and templot in particular I've been looking at tandem turnouts. I have searched the previously posted topics on this subject and at this stage still need help on the following points. What is the difference between 3way and tandem turnouts? ...
... within the slip. I have no idea how to get rid of the pesky curve that makes itself evident whenever I make a branch track. Once I get the straight diverging road set up I think I'll be able to follow the video for diamonds within transitions, and then afterward I'll insert a slip road. To illustrate, this is the general arrangement ... : Martin Wynne Hi Quentin, Welcome to Templot Club. I'm not sure what you are asking for. You seem to have achieved the classic trailing slip crossover connection to a yard, all on a nice gentle curve. It's very likely that most such prototypes would be exactly like that. Which part do you want to be straight? The diverging road ... topic: 2909 Straight Diverging route on a turnout with contraflexure posted: 8 Aug 2016 05:45 from: mightbe Hi all, I've finally been prompted to give in and register--the primary motivation being that, for the first time, I have a question that I haven't been able to find an answer to. I'm toying with ideas ...
... a very short so defining what is 'sensible' at the other end of the scale would be good as you suggest. I am in agreement with your reply concerning the exit road turnout length 'issue' raised by John, it would be good if that could be reset with the other derived settings. You may not believe this but I don't think I ... there were only a few prepared to do that, I certainly can't recall any layouts with bespoke trackwork prior to Templot. I did a few items of bespoke trackwork in fiddle yards by trial and error, I can't claim that said items had any prototypical fidelity. I can't thank Martin enough for what he has provided us with, if he does no ... next two posts contain the two screenshots at the time the issue occurred. I do hope I haven't done anything wrong this time The starting template was a 1:12 curviform turnout in a length of straight track and I just let Templot proceed through the process without any changes when asking for the tandem. I did have an issue earlier when a stock ...
... programme efficiently. I have made a custom "rail and track" (44'6" with 18 sleepers per length) I have only got as far as making a loco release road road crossover and adjacent siding. Here is how a went about it. I have called the Templates 1 to 5 for the sake of this query. a) Got a ... crossing angle; the style of turnout timbering; the class of traffic over the diverging routes; the willingness of the company to pay the extra cost of long timbers; for yards and sidings the availability of serviceable used material. However, there are two clear cases -- 1. both vee legs the same length; 2. the splice rail longer ... shorter than the point rail, so that the vee joints are staggered. Most drawings, and most tabulated data, show case 1, and that design and data is in Templot. For years I assumed case 2 was far less common, mostly favoured by the NER and LNER. But looking at photos now I'm not so sure. Templot doesn't directly ...
... that if people wanted pictures of signal boxes etc. on their layout plans, then Google Sketchup was the place to go and create them. Also please don't go down the road of giving people the opportunity to create "sectional" track templates. There are plenty of other software packages with that sort of thing in mind. Templot does not need to ... same objective. A P4 modeller might arrive wanting to create and print a set of construction templates for Great West of Scotland Railway interlaced turnouts, 1904 pattern, with 80lb/yard rail. He won't be needing an explanation of how crossing angles are measured, but he will need an explanation of how to adjust the check rails. An EM modeller might ... there, or I got them just right first time -- which is difficult to believe. The same goes for several of the other new features -- platforms, gaunt turnouts, wrapping a picture shape along the control template, foot lines on FB templates, the dummy vehicle tool. Welcomed at the time, but since then -- silence. ...
... ....... A most interesting development was then described by Martin Wynne. Neville Fairbairn had asked Martin for help in setting out a turnout from a curved road. From this request Martin had gone on to devise a system for enabling any turnout to be drawn out on 1mm graph paper by even the most inexperienced. Given the radius ... transitions into the curves. This means that there are several things preceding this one but getting something running is usually a key objective for most of us. Up and down some yard lengths is ok but to get something run in is so much better on an oval. Just some thoughts Best wishes Peter posted: 29 Jan 2018 21:07 from: ... is going to be a tricky one as you say. Understanding the concept of the control template and background templates is key to Templot, at least when you move past single turnout design. Are you able to have mouseover prompts for the menu when a user clicks on a background template? A quick prompt as to the use of the make, copy ...
... intention is for the tracks to diverge, it is better to change to a curviform V-crossing. Otherwise you will have a short section of reverse curve in the diverging road. Often this doesn't show very obviously on the screen, but it will do when looking along the finished tracks. To see what I mean, here I have greatly exaggerated ... a single slip on the mainline, I followed the video tutorial and I think I have done it right? 2. Because I am running out of space for the goods yard behind the station and cannot move the whole thing up I really need to add in a 3 way tandem turnout (So I can remove a point and save a little space ... . Now I tried to follow all the old instructions but when I added the 3rd set with no timbers it looked horribly wrong. So if anyone out there has experience with them that could help me get that finished that would be a big help as it's the only thing I am stuck on. Other than that I just need to shove some timbers ...
... MCP or TCP as appropriate, and then manipulating it by swapping/inverting the hand until it obviously lay on the diamond in the right position. Once there making the slip road was easy and guranteed to be right. I say this after making numerous mistakes and getting some very weird slips, incliding those in which the switch blades were outside the point ... I have no idea if there are any prototype examples of that formation though! Hi Paul, Phil, Double outside slips are certainly found in UK track, more commonly in yards than in running lines. Here is a well-known picture of one. Notice that it is not symmetrical, the left-hand slip road is longer and to an ... is this curved double slip which I offer for your comments. I didn't quite follow the sequence in Martin's video as I found it easier (after altering the switch of the turnout based on the curved diamond and saving a copy) to attach the turnout to the peg, MCP or TCP as appropriate, and then manipulating it by swapping/inverting the ...
... using curviform vees to fit tighter curves in a small space, but I thought that doing so was also the way to get Y-shaped turnouts, by making the main road turn the opposite way. (I couldn't remember how to spell contraflexure- nor whether it is even the right term.) It seems I may have not understood something here ... topic: 3551 First Faltering Steps (Asok Yard) posted: 12 Nov 2019 02:08 from: Graeme A week ago I set myself the task of at least making a start at acquiring a working knowledge of Templot. In the interim I have probably spent in total about 3 days solid on it. Selecting topics randomly, I read much ... small' and I gradually worked my way down to a 1'x5' shunting layout, Asok Yard, to use as a test bed for some of my ideas (mainly around turnout motors and electronics). 3620_112044_500000000.png SO... to see if I had learned anything from all my Templot study, I decided to try to replicate that layout as close ...
... issue or fundamental geometry that is fudged with RTR track? Hi Gordon, Prototypically, at least for the common REA bullhead switches, it's not possible to have a dead straight road and a perfectly tangential curved road. If you insert a turnout in the straight track as the main road, the turnout road can't be a tangential curve. If you insert ... straight at this location, but it's not possible for the track in the foreground to be exactly parallel to them throughout. (This picture also shows a Barry slip in the yard on the right, and catch points in the diamond-crossing giving access to the yard. If the foreground line had been a running line, these catch points would have ... Nov 2008 12:51 from: Gordon S Came across something this morning that is so basic, but I can't seem to find a solution. I want to take a turnout off a 914mm (36") radius curve, with the main line continuing straight at a tangent to the curve. I have drawn the curve and inserted the turnout, ...
... an additional trailing crossover between the inner and middle loops at the east end of the junction to make manouvering a bit easier. At the same time I'd see if the terminal road and run around at the top of the plan could be curved a bit to be parallel with the wall; that would give a bit more room for a scenic background, ... space for storing stock is limited; with the sort of junction I've outlined it might be possible to improve that. What I suggest might be worth considering is replacing the goods yard by a smaller one up in the north east corner. You'd then have space for a slightly larger loco facilities plus at least a couple of sidings for holding traffic in transit ... As such, I was wondering on the best approach to take this plan and create my layout in Templot. I am assuming that Templot will give me the advantage of fitting turnouts to curves etc that XtrkCAD couldn't do because it was using Peco Stremaline templates to create the track in the first place. Should I import the plan in as a back ground ...
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... narrow straight portable baseboard, and a longer L shaped design has different constraints and opens up more opportunities. The distinctive feature of the design was that it allowed access to all roads from both inward and outward lines, and in the pointwork avoided reverse curves (except at one point). I'd suggest playing around with putting the pointwork on the curve of ... as an A5. I have had a play with a plan using A5's and the complex after the crossover is just over 450mm to the platforms, though 600mm for the goods yard turnout on platform 3 I will need a 30" radius into the fiddle yard and there is plenty of room for larger radius curved turnouts. I have used 50mm track centres ... given that I have a small room the ability to run this old stock on a vintage designed plan. I have plenty of old track building parts so happy to make the turnouts The room being about 8' square would lend itself to a L shaped plan, with the turnouts on a curve. I think the curve may have to go down to ...
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