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... topic: 2253 Brighton: struggling with a tandem turnout posted: 7 Jul 2013 19:34 from: TonyHagon I would be grateful for some help please.... I have been tearing what's left of my hair out with what should be a very simple set of templates... Six roads of the engine shed are fanned out from two sets of three way points and it's taken me days to work out the geometry. I have mastered one three way point (and discovered along the way that the OS map and what's on the ground aren't necessarily congruous! The OS plan shows the road passing the wheel lift straight, but photos show this to be S curved as I have laid them out here- I'm happy with the resulting templates) but the second one is eluding me. The problem is that the two turnouts seem to be S shaped as shown on this image...1876_071428_480000000.png Unfortunately, the water point icon hides the crossing point but the real problem seems to me the length of the lead in both turnouts. If you ...
... despite that I am really a CAD type of person, I am picking up the basics really easily. So far it's doing everything I am asking of it The only thing that confuses me is converting from British to American... I am trying to model PRR tracks in Z gauge using easily available data: 2547_091838_000000000.png Numbers in black are original (real), in blue are scale (1 :220) numbers. My questions are as follows: table.jpg And here PRR drawing (click to see full size): turnouts%2520etc%2520%2528131-155lbs%2529%2520-%2520dimensions%2520%252873001-C %2529.jpg I hope you don't mind my questions and I will not be to told to RTFM Thank you Chris Last edited on 9 Oct 2012 23:44 by bambuko posted: 7 Oct 2012 10:52 from: Martin Wynne bambuko wrote: I hope you don't mind my questions and I will not be to told to RTFM Hi Chris, Welcome to Templot Club. We certainly don't mind your questions - ...
103. Tandems and 3 ways
... topic: 2017 Tandems and 3 ways posted: 12 Jul 2012 20:26 from: dave turner Hi In my neverending quest to learn about trackwork and templot in particular I've been looking at tandem turnouts. I have searched the previously posted topics on this subject and at this stage still need help on the following points. What is the difference between 3way and tandem turnouts? I'm sure I've seen this once but couldn't find the topic again to reread it. What suggestions can you make for deciding which turnout settings work together sensibly? All the examples I've seen are for the middle road being the main road. I'm particularly interested in curved turnouts where either of the outer roads are the main road. I haven't been able to work out how to achieve this. Ideally it would be nice to be able to:- Insert a turnout into a plain track aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road peg/align turnout over an existing turnout aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road. Possibly neither of the latter ideas are ...
... topic: 3678 Curves on turnout template posted: 25 May 2020 03:22 from: Graham Long I am trying to make curved turnout template. I set the radius of the main line and minimum radius of 1200mm warning. In the information panel I get the switch and turnout curve radii and also a smallest radius on template figure. What does this last figure refer to? posted: 25 May 2020 10:38 from: Ian Allen Graham, The smallest radius will be just that. Your main running line will be radius X, your turnout curve radius will be Y. The smallest radius IIRC is between the crossing vee and the switch heel. If you change the crossing vee from Regular to Generic, you will see this minimum value change. I'm sure Martin or others will be able to explain more fully. Ian posted: 26 May 2020 13:19 from: Martin Wynne Graham Long wrote: I am trying to make curved turnout template. I set the radius of the main line and minimum radius of 1200mm warning. In ...
105. Straights and bends
... topic: 1765 Straights and bends posted: 6 Jan 2012 12:32 from: r_wilton I'm new to templot and have just finished my first soldered PCB turnout. My attentions are now on producing a small layout (12' x 16") using templot. I've played around a bit with templates and looked at a few of the tutorial videos but i've come a bit stuck with one (of many i'm sure) problem. I have two offset parallel straight sections separated by about 12". I want to join these with an s bend to form a single track and then add some turnouts along the length. My problem is joining the two sections with the s bend while maintaining the parallel straight section at the start and end of the track. I've tried transition curves (easement from straight) etc. but i always end up with a curve at the end or the straights not being parallel. I'm sure there's a simple solution, but i'm still trying to get my head around all the options and get lost so any pointers would ...
... an Engineer's siding; a freight arrival/ departure loop (originally the down line); and the current single track branch line (originally the up line). To the right are four tracks which are from the top: an Engineer's siding (previously access to the former Goods Yard); Platform 3 (the former down through platform); Platform 2 (the former up through platform); and Platform 1 (a bay platform). Starting at Platform 3 on the right, I need the toe end of the turnout to cross the baseboard joint at 90 degrees and since I am using pre-assembled common crossings from C&L (which are straight), I think this turnout is 'final'. If I reduce the radius any further then the diverging radius drops below 36 inches and I have a transition of zero length between this curve and the common crossing. I have then made an ordinary crossover at 44.67mm centres, which should provide the access to Platform 2. I'm not sure why it stops short of the baseboard edge at ...
... topic: 2909 Straight Diverging route on a turnout with contraflexure posted: 8 Aug 2016 05:45 from: mightbe Hi all, I've finally been prompted to give in and register--the primary motivation being that, for the first time, I have a question that I haven't been able to find an answer to. I'm toying with ideas for a P4 test track and decided I should include a slip of some sort. Going for ease and aesthetic value, I opted for a 'double track with trailing connection to siding' sort of arrangement. Additionally I put the whole thing on a curve which transitions to straight track at each end. (the idea being that the test track can be tarted up and used as a photo plank as well). Due to the small size, one turnout and the slip lie within a transition. What I want is for the diverging route of the lower turnout to be completely straight, and I'd prefer a B8 (ish) or something that doesn't require a switched diamond within the slip. I ...
... cheers, Martin. posted: 6 Jul 2020 15:48 from: Martin Wynne p.s. Julian, I've just remembered that you now need to change this setting to sleepered when rolling rails to flow the timbering: 2_061045_490000000.png Otherwise the rolled-in sleepers will be missing. cheers, Martin. posted: 6 Jul 2020 16:56 from: Julian Roberts Thanks again Martin! While you're doing that I'll explain....I think I ought to know what the rule or practical consideration is regarding rail joints at the exit of turnouts or diamonds. Is there normally a joint within a few sleepers, or can the next rail joint be up to 60 feet away from the V? I reckon I need to get the rails right first, and then arrange the sleepers so that there isn't one under a joint. I will post a screenshot of the length that is causing me to ask this. posted: 6 Jul 2020 17:03 from: Julian Roberts 3591_061201_180000000.png posted: 6 Jul 2020 19:24 from: Phil O Hi Julian Common crossings ...
109. 0-16.5 turnout
... topic: 3368 0-16.5 turnout posted: 19 Dec 2018 10:14 from: Hayfield Could someone please case an eye over this 0-16.5 turnout and critique please I want a small but reasonable turnout for a small diorama for my locos (Peco Great little trains on Branchline chassis) As a basis I used an 00 V 4.5 template in conjunction with a Peco turnout plan& a piece of flexi track to get an idea of timber sizes and spacings, then just fiddled about with the number, size and spacings of timbers Given the locos have decent 00 gauge wheels I may go for 00SF as a gauge, using code 100 rail as in my opinion code 75 looks too skinny. As for build process I guess it will have to be either copperclad or spiked construction Thoughts as to both the design and method of building would be greatly appreciated Attachment: attach_2789_3368_0-16,5_A4.5.box 197 posted: 19 Dec 2018 11:56 from: Martin Wynne Hi John, Don't use REA switches for narrow-gauge. You will get a ...
... topic: 967 Two questions regarding two design concerns posted: 1 Nov 2009 02:52 from: William Adkins As I work through my layout design I've encountered two issues for which I could use advice: 1. I would like to make a right hand curved turnout. The outer radius would approximate 32" while the diverging radius would be 30". Is there a way to set each track's radius and then have Templot calculate the appropriate frog ratio, i.e. 1:10, 1:12, etc. for a defined scale and gauge? 2. Is there such a thing as an asymetrical wye turnout? As an example, a right hand diverging track at 32" radius and a left hand diverging radius of 30". If so, how would one create such a template using Templot? Thank you in advance for your help. Bill posted: 1 Nov 2009 03:28 from: Martin Wynne William Adkins wrote: 1. I would like to make a right hand curved turnout. The outer radius would approximate 32 ...
... topic: 1196 Newbie- needing to understand Handedness, switches and crossings much better. posted: 11 Aug 2010 02:19 from: grog_polymer I went back to the companion and had a look at the switch and crossing sections under real track. 1920_101644_010000000.jpg What confused me is the "End of turnout curve" because I had expected the turnout to continue to curve after the entry straight. So I went back to tors and had a look at the radii and centres of entry, exit, branch and the turnout itself. I was surprised that the branch track was was not at the substitution radius but rather all track elements shared a common track centre line radius but that the branch line just had an appropriate offset for the centre of its curvature. I also played around with the entry straight length. I was also trying to get a grip on why a left or right had turnout mattered when many of the negative turnouts appear very "Y" like and I could not understand why it mattered. If I understand correctly now: a turnout ...
... topic: 2522 Custom turnout matching Peco 0n30 posted: 26 Aug 2014 20:30 from: keithj15 Hi, I have been using Templot for a while to create OO finescale trackwork with great success (thanks to Martin's superb program), then recently several members of my local MRC became attracted to On30 logging modules. Initially we were able to use Peco's turnouts, Y's and flexitrack for the trackwork, but then as confidence quickly grew, and plans became more complex with crossings, curved switches and three-ways they all turned to the club's 'Templot guy'. I said OK without question, as I had always been interested in the rustic look of these North American shortline railroads. With the minimum radius of 24 inches and 36 inches preferred it was all fairly straight forward --- until I had to work on a corner module with two existing Peco On30 switches, which had to remain in situ. So that's the backstory. Scale On30 16.5mm 1:48 I thought the easiest thing was to start to generate a Templot version of Peco's ...
... topic: 517 Default for Inserting a Turnout posted: 6 Aug 2008 19:51 from: Bob Hobbs Hi I just looked at a helpful hints video showing the creation of a fragment of a plan to a drawing. When the insert turnout into plain track is chosen what is the default? Can that be changed. I model to North American standards with very different tie(sleeper) sizes and spacing. I have templates from someone that has gone to the effort to do both an 11 foot and a 16' 6" trunout along with a straight section of offset regular track. Thanks to whomever did this. I would like to be able to use one or the other of these turnout standards or another that I may obtain or design as the turnout insert into the plain track. Is this possible? How can it be done? Do I have to reset this every time or will it be stored in the box file? Bob Hobbs- he of 10000 questions Ottawa, Canada posted: 6 Aug 2008 21:06 from: ...
114. Route control
... topic: 234 Route control posted: 12 Nov 2007 04:04 from: renluethi Hello, I have built many turnouts with the help of Templot (and Martin of course) for my model railroad layout currently under construction. It includes a main station with a shunting yard, both totaling 42 turnouts and approx. 102 routes. I would like to set the desired route by entrance – exit route switching, in other words by pressing two buttons on a control panel. The selected route should be flashing until the affected turnouts are in the end position and then steady lighted. I have this kind of control panel already on the layout, for a small station with seven turnouts and nine routes. The electronic filled two euro cards with components. I think for these 102 routes it will fill several cake tins with components and it will be daunting complex. I have the idea that this could be made simpler with the usage of microprocessors. Has anyone realized something like that, or is there a source for a solution? I prefer a microprocessor ...
... topic: 1256 Two A7 turnouts, both straight, but different minimum radii posted: 29 Sep 2010 20:12 from: Richard Spratt the two turnouts in the box file are part of a fiddleyard. Both are A7s, both are straight, one LH, one RH, but the RH has a minimum radius of 1919mm and the LH is 1770mm. What's different? Am I mad? But they ought to be the same? Attachment: attach_892_1256_different_radii_10 _09_29_2008_05.box 329 posted: 29 Sep 2010 20:42 from: Martin Wynne Richard Spratt wrote: the two turnouts in the box file are part of a fiddleyard. Both are A7s, both are straight, one LH, one RH, but the RH has a minimum radius of 1919mm and the LH is 1770mm. What's different? Am I mad? But they ought to be the same? Hi Richard, One has a generic type of V-crossing and the other has a regular type of V-crossing: gen_xing.gif reg_xing.gif Full details at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/ ...
... topic: 1785 Tandem turnout- Help required posted: 13 Jan 2012 23:39 from: r_wilton Hi I've been trying to turn the RH turnout shown here into a tandem turnout without much success. I've looked at the Tandem video but get lost halfway through. 2200_131831_110000000.png I want a second LH turnout before the RH one. Can any one help? I've attached a box file of the above section. Regards Ray. Attachment: attach_1311_1785_group_2012_01_13 _2320_43.box 208 posted: 14 Jan 2012 12:37 from: Alan McMillan Hi Ray Is this what you have in mind? If it is, I'll do a finished version for you. Regards Alan Attachment: attach_1312_1785_R_Wilton_Tandem.b ox 244 Last edited on 14 Jan 2012 12:39 by Alan McMillan posted: 14 Jan 2012 15:37 from: r_wilton Hi Alan. Yes, that looks perfect, very kind of you to offer to finish it off. Ray. posted: 14 Jan 2012 16:47 from: Alan McMillan I'll get to it on Monday. Alan posted: 16 Jan 2012 09:23 ...
... you should always set the required track centres dimension for the control template. Or at least check it. Click the tools> adjacent track centres... menu item: 2_272006_300000000.png (In the next program update I will be adding a note of the current settings directly in the menu for convenience -- shown boxed red above. But it's not there yet. The current settings are always shown on the information dialog, but it's quite quick just to click the menu item above regardless.) There are separate settings for the turnout side (TS) and main side (MS) of the track, as in prototype practice. (6ft and 10ft way, i.e. 11ft-2in and 15ft-2in centres). However the default settings in Templot use the same dimensions for both in keeping with traditional model railway practice for space saving. Knowledgeable users re-set them differently as required. The switch-on defaults vary with the different gauge settings. The "finescale" gauges such as EM, 0-MF, etc., default ...
... should I start with? posted: 3 Apr 2009 15:25 from: BruceNordstrand Howdy all I have a new install of Windoze Xp and Templot so I can work on a new plan a friend of mine designed. This is stage 1 of a double deck layout in my garage (pic attached) I have a BMP file all ready to load into Templot as a background image but frankly, I do not know where to start. You see, there is not many straight sections in this plan and very few straight turnouts. Would you suggest I try manipulating a turnout to fit and go from there or start with some plain track sections and insert turnouts into that? I am still very green behind the ears when it comes to Templot so please be gentle... Cheers Bruce Attachment: attach_535_778_RFW-Garage.png 205 Last edited on 4 Apr 2009 01:02 by BruceNordstrand posted: 3 Apr 2009 15:40 from: Paul Boyd Hi Bruce You say you are green with Templot- have you worked your way through the tutorials? Before ...
119. GW tandem turnout
... topic: 1084 GW tandem turnout posted: 22 Mar 2010 12:06 from: Phil O Hi All Does anyone have any info on how the GW would have arranged the timbers under a tandem turnout? I have had a look in David Smiths book GWR Switch& Crossing practice and can find no help there. Below is the turnout which I would like to sort out the timbers. 38_220704_280000000.png TIA Phil Last edited on 22 Mar 2010 12:08 by Phil O posted: 23 Mar 2010 21:26 from: Paul Boyd Tricky question! This is the way I do it, which may be right or wrong. I work on the basis that each element of the turnout is made up of standard components, i.e., three crossings and two switches. On the prototype, the timber spacing within each component was pretty much fixed so that the special chairs would fit so that's what you have to base the overall timbering on. So, starting with the switches, you know what type of switch you're using and where the rail joint ...
... a breeze. I am looking at the 'old fashioned' route of using injection moulded chairs and actually glueing them on.... Rob posted: 16 Jul 2018 23:59 from: d827kelly A great addition to templot! posted: 17 Jul 2018 08:12 from: richard_t I've been doing similar, in 2D, using my cad program- I think I'd go slightly crazy doing a full plan, even though the chairs are blocks so they just need putting in the correct place. Attached is a simple A6 turnout, without the crossing chairs- it's a PDF, as the PNG I generated looked awful. Attachment: attach_2700_3307_a6-chairs-test-Model.pdf 289 posted: 17 Jul 2018 18:31 from: Andrew Barrowman richard_t wrote: I've been doing similar, in 2D, using my cad program- I think I'd go slightly crazy doing a full plan, even though the chairs are blocks so they just need putting in the correct place. Attached is a simple A6 turnout, without the crossing chairs- it's a PDF, ...
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