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... topic: 632 Crossover on diverging tracks posted: 16 Nov 2008 22:52 from: Paul Boyd The attached JPEG shows parallel tracks coming in from the LHS. They start diverging at about the 5.5ft mark. I've created a crossover after the divergion point (is that a word??) by a lot of adjusting of crossing angles and roaming until the two turnouts involved line up closely enough for track building. Both turnouts have a curviform crossing. The question is though, how should I have done it so that the turnouts align correctly without all the trial and error faffing about, based on the positions of the diverging tracks being fixed? (I know the timbering is wrong- I haven't started shoving yet!) Attachment: attach_414_632_diverging_crossover .jpg 302 posted: 17 Nov 2008 01:49 from: Richard Spratt Isn't it like turnout 7 in the first tutorial? http://www.templot.com/martweb/tut5a.htm Richard posted: 17 Nov 2008 02:10 from: Paul Boyd Hi Richard Not really, because in that tutorial the turnout is ...
... topic: 3107 Lining up crossover turnouts, expanding parallel curves posted: 13 Oct 2017 10:04 from: Damien Morris 0eda7dda3d887297a0b1fb0a1ed4cfd0.p ng What is the best way to line up and bridge the 2 turnouts on 2 expanding parallel curves? Last bit needed before I have to go back over the layout and go through sleepers. Attachment: attach_2531_3107_conwy.zip 216 posted: 13 Oct 2017 11:50 from: John Palmer I would do it by making TL533 the control template, then making the crossover by using Tools -> make ordinary crossover. Before doing this, however, you need to adjust the turnout side adjacent track centre for TL533 so that the crossover thus formed aligns with the adjacent down main line (PR477). Because TL533 and PR477 aren't running parallel here, you will need to pick an arbitrary point on PR477 at which to measure its current offset from TL533 then make some adjustments after the crossover is created.2129_130634_140000000.png As the image shows, I picked a point on TL533 lying opposite the expected mid point of the crossover, slid the peg to this ...
143. Development ideas
... topic: 2082 Development ideas posted: 15 Oct 2012 14:05 from: Simon Dunkley Hi Martin, Just a couple of things I would like to see in future, but they may be personal preferences only. Firstly, would it be possible to switch off the radial end markers via the nice dialog box you created for output options? Secondly, when adding a platform to the turnout side of a parallel crossing, would it be possible for it to follow the turnout road rather than the turnout side of the main route? I also noticed that you cleaned a bug when creating version 2: where changing a crossing from parallel to, say normal, left the rails but not the sleepers of the branch track in place. I know it was a bug, but I found it useful! Simon posted: 15 Oct 2012 14:47 from: Martin Wynne Simon Dunkley wrote: Firstly, would it be possible to switch off the radial end markers via the nice dialog box you created for output options? Hi Simon, At present they ...
... topic: 2985 Modifying check rails on background templates to match the control template posted: 22 Feb 2017 02:04 from: Rick Hi there fellow Temploters: I'm spending time re-learning Templot after several years in the wilderness. My dilemma/ question relates to making changes made to the geometry of the current control template being reflected in the background turnout templates. I have a turnout Control Template that I am adjusting as I go along and I want these alterations to turnout geometry to be reflected in the existing turnout Background Templates; for them to be updated too so all of them have the same geometry. I can alter rails and timbers for all templates using the 'modify group to match' options under the real menu item. This works fine. However, when I try to alter the check and wing rail geometry using the real> adjust check rails menu item, I can't see any way to modify or update the other background turnout templates. There doesn't seem to be a 'modify group to match' option in this case.The attached file shows ...
145. Dale Junction (OOSF)
... inner face of the crossing wing-rail. Thanks for your very helpful reply. I had held off printing the templates until I received a reply and, just as I finished printing, in came your post. Thanks for your comments regarding the wallpaper. I think I shall abandon the this approach for the reason you have given and because of the issues I have found with flatness and vulnerability. I guess I am going back to the traditional cork sheets instead. Your comments about the templates are a worry. When building turnouts with copperclad I was able to remove the templates on completion of the build before fitting them to the baseboard. Ballasting was no problem.I have found though that the ply sleeper and chair method of construction does not produce the same same degree of stability when the templates are removed and distortion can easily be introduced. I am using balsa cement to secure the sleepers to the template and Butanone to secure the chairs to the sleepers. Is there a real problem ballasting with the templates in place? If so, is there a better ...
... topic: 2669 Brunel blues, 7mm broad gauge problems posted: 5 Apr 2015 09:59 from: keithj15 Fellow club members have started an O gauge Broad Gauge project, and asked me to draw up their track plan. Having gathered together all the track stats from the Broad Gauge Society, and created a custom gauge, all looked good until I tried to create a regular crossover. I then found the turnouts overlap and the all important V's don't generate on the template. I have tried all the variations of the turnout geometry, but have concluded that there must be some simple parameter that I have missed — possibly in the custom template dialogues, and this screws up the correct creation of the regular crossing — and maybe other configurations of turnout and crossing templates yet to be encountered. Can anyone help point out what I am missing? I have attached a box file showing the problem. regards Keith Johnson Attachment: attach_2102_2669_7mm_Broad_Gauge.b ox 234 posted: 5 Apr 2015 10:14 from: Alan Turner Widen the track centres using Geometry/Adjacent Track ...
... will hold the rail firmly to the sleepers and timbers, and allow for expansion and contraction. Common and obtuse crossings can either be made as self contained units on 0.5 mm shim or copperclad. Or if prefered use copperclad sleepers where the crossing is, use shim or thin copperclad strip to raise the rails, some may feel this is an easier construction method. Once soldered in place grind the material back to the rail sides to allow the fitting of half chairs Who needs 1 mm check rail chairs for 00sf or EM gauge turnouts and crossings. In P4 they are a pain to thread, its far easier to cut a half chair off and fit the check rail using a check rail gauge. I will post a couple of photos which will explain the method. Sorry for those who prefer more traditional methods of turnout construction and feel I may be having a go at their methods, but the C&L/ Exactoscale and Peco plastic chairs have proved themselves now for over 30 years. Just use the correct solvents. Word of caution over the ...
... the following. Point motors are Tortoise. I did decide recently to try servos and ordered some kit from The Bouncer, but haven't had anything back; anyone any experiences in this direction? Thank you for your input, I am learning more with every answer. ken posted: 12 Mar 2010 08:01 from: Jim Guthrie Ken, Here's another method which might interest you- with the tiebar underneath the track base. This method is quite popular with a good few people. 25_120244_240000000.jpg 25_120245_420000000.jpg 25_120245_030000000.jpg Three views of a test turnout I built in FS160 (finescale N) using 2mm society Code 40 wire rails and PCB timbering. Brass wire is soldered to the switch blades (which are sprung) and extend through the track base to the turnout operating unit. In this case I've soldered short pieces of brass strip to the underside of the blades and these strips extend under the stock rails to keep the switch blades vertically aligned to the stock rails. The wires are soldered into holes drilled in the inner ends of these strips. This track was for ...
... topic: 1713 beginner query- radius versus template posted: 2 Dec 2011 12:51 from: LSWRArt I am hoping to start a new layout in 'o' gauge and traditionally would have used, say a 72" straight turnout, or a 48"/ 72" curved turnout. How does this relate to the nomenclature that all you clever guys use, such as B-7. I do not understand what is a B turnout (are there A, C- Z turnouts?). I do understand that 7 means a 1 in 7 crossing angle, but I do not see how to convert radius to angle to know what crossing angle to choose. posted: 2 Dec 2011 13:03 from: Dave Summers LSWRArt wrote: I am hoping to start a new layout in 'o' gauge and traditionally would have used, say a 72" straight turnout, or a 48"/ 72" curved turnout. How does this relate to the nomenclature that all you clever guys use, such as B-7. I ...
... posted: 20 Oct 2011 18:00 from: Tony W Dr G Alan Gee wrote: I have made a station loop following the instructions in Martins video. How do i insert a point into the loop as the insert button is greyed out. I am new to Templot. Any suggestions would be of great help. Kind regards Alan Gee Hello Dr G. Although I have not watched the video in question, I suspect the reason that the insert button is greyed out is because the loop is an extension of the turnout/ point. Turnouts can only be inserted into a length of plain track so you will need to make the loop track a separate piece of track first. Use the make return curve option under tools and make adjacent track turnout side at the relevent track spacing or link it onto the end of the return curve. Tony. Last edited on 21 Oct 2011 12:11 by Tony W posted: 20 Oct 2011 18:46 from: Martin Wynne Dr G Alan Gee wrote: I have made a station loop following ...
151. Symmetrical turnouts
... topic: 2517 Symmetrical turnouts posted: 21 Aug 2014 23:30 from: lukemac Hi I need some help in building this symmetrical turnout. I'm modelling in N scale and not sure how to build this turnout in templot. Any help will be great. Luke2377_211829_480000000.jpg posted: 22 Aug 2014 07:49 from: Hayfield Luke Good morning (or afternoon where you are)There will be far more talented folk than me that will answer your question, but I thought I would get the ball rolling. They are tutorial and videos available on the site covering both methods Easy route Produce a normal template of the correct crossing angle from quick set in the Template section Place the centre of the heal over a horizontal line F6 will curve the turnout so the centre of the Vee moves over the horizontal line Ctrl+ F10 (Swell) will alloy you to centralise the centre Change the Vee to a curviform one if needed in Real then V crossing options Adjust the timbers in Real then Shove timbers There are a couple of others bits to tidy it up ...
... topic: 1631 What does the radius dimension relate to? posted: 15 Sep 2011 16:13 from: Brian Nicholls Hi All, I wonder if someone would be kind enough to enlighten me (advise me, call it what you will) regarding the radius dimension on the drawing shown below. The radius dimension is, as shown, 594 ft, or 9 chains The question is, would that dimension shown be for the centre line of the turnout track, or would it be for the curve of the crossing rail only as shown? I know in most cases, the turnout radius, when related to the turnout as a whole, is referred to as the centre line radius, but this one has me guessing (which is something I don't want to do when inputting data). All the best, Brian Nicholls. 1853_151110_270000000.png posted: 15 Sep 2011 17:26 from: Martin Wynne Hi Brian, It's the radius in the rail, which Templot matches exactly: gauge> other gauges...> set exact scale. ...
... and/or change the V-crossing angle using F9 mouse action. In most cases change also to a curviform type of V-crossing -- real> V-crossing options> curviform V-crossing menu item. (For this method this setting is optional.) Click the tools> make diamond-crossing menu item. If the angles differ, the result will be an irregular diamond crossing. If the angles are the same, the result will be a regular diamond-crossing. 2. Start with a turnout having a curviform V-crossing. Click the tools> make ladder crossover> make curviform ladder menu item. Click it again a few more times. The above 2 methods can cope with having a transition curve in the main road, although you will probably need to follow up with some adjustments to the transition zone to get the desired result. 3. Start with two lengths of curved plain track crossing over each other, or one curved and one straight length. One should be a background template and the other the ...
... do want a smooth transitioned link for running lines, see the usual method here: http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.php cheers, Martin. posted: 9 Aug 2019 21:26 from: Rob Manchester Hi Martin, That looks likely to be a very useful addition to Templot. Look forward to it soon. While not the way you would prefer people to use Templot I can see a lot of 'beginners' using it to join up templates scattered over the workpad- in a similar way to joining up the turnout 'paper' templates used to be done by many on the baseboards. That is assuming the beginner can find the menu and recognize the terminology Rob posted: 10 Aug 2019 00:58 from: John Palmer Very useful addition to the toolkit- looking forward to using this when the update comes around. Thank you, Martin. posted: 11 Aug 2019 13:03 from: Martin Wynne Thanks for the comments. I've taken this a bit further, and included automatic trimming of the background template. It can be undone ...
155. Template name labels
... a fixed ID number which wouldn't change, and which would be printed as the prefix on the timber number instead of the list number. So I have now made such a change. When a template is added to the storage box it is given a fixed ID number. In principle this is the same as giving it an auto-generated name instead of "no-name" -- the ID number has no numerical significance and is simply a symbolic identifier. The ID number looks like this: TL123 where T=turnout, or P=plain track, or D=half-diamond and L=left-hand, or R=right-hand and 123 is a 3-figure number used on the printed templates instead of the list number. Note that this ID number applies only to stored templates -- the control template doesn't have an ID number. If a template is deleted to the control it loses its ID number, and gains a new one when stored again. But doing that doesn't change any other stored template. ...
... topic: 1475 Hand swapping of turnout when aligning using <facing- trailing> posted: 7 May 2011 14:55 from: Brian Nicholls Hi All, (particularly Martin) When placing a turnout, which is in the control, onto a plain track background template using the following instructions: Left click on the plain track background template, (or using Shift key+ Left click on it's name label) then selecting< peg/align tools>< align control template over, and snake onto peg>< facing – trailing> from the popup menu. I find that the control turnout template swaps hand (from say, Left-Hand to Right-Hand) when it akigns with the end of the plain track background template. This kept happening, after several frustrating attempts at removing and re-handing the turnout, and then re-trying to align again. Each and every time it swapped the hand of the turnout template to the wrong hand that was required. I finally decided to try another tack and did the following: ...
... topic: 2923 is there a "set" in curved turnouts posted: 6 Sep 2016 13:15 from: madscientist Given Martins oft repeated comments on establishing a" set" in the curved stock rail and the importance of the straight section adjacent to the planed blade, How does this work in curved turnouts, is there a" set" in both rails etc dave posted: 6 Sep 2016 13:35 from: Martin Wynne Hi Dave, There is a set on one side only, the same as a straight turnout. A curved turnout is simply a straight turnout bent into a curve along the main road. This means that all the sections which are straight in a straight turnout are curved to the main road radius in a curved turnout. So beyond the set, the "straight" section* is curved at the outer radius. Then where the rails diverge the inner turnout radius begins. The stock gauge remains the same and in the same position at the end of the planing, which is the same planing length. All ...
... or somesuch scenic device, or maybe resite the signal box to the other side of the tracks. Or is it just too contrived and would make the layout more awkward to fit into exhibition plans with an extra foot being needed just for a sticky out bit of track??? Attachment: attach_1291_1762_fourgig_east_exte nded_engine_shed.box 345 posted: 3 Jan 2012 15:32 from: RedgateModels here's the second .box file Attachment: attach_1292_1762_fourgig_east_exte nded_engine_shed_plus.box 288 posted: 3 Jan 2012 17:14 from: wcampbell23 Have you considered replacing the slip with two separate turnouts? This would not greatly affect the run-round loop and give you more flexibility for the release crossover. At the end of the platform road you could maximise the space for a loco by installing a minimal buffer stop such as this one at Bodmin General: 54_031213_080000000.jpg Regards Bill Campbell. Last edited on 3 Jan 2012 17:16 by wcampbell23 posted: 3 Jan 2012 17:36 from: RedgateModels Nice photo Bill, I'd already planned saomething similar for the buffer stop. The main reason for the double slip was ...
159. Curved turnouts
... topic: 403 Curved turnouts posted: 6 Apr 2008 15:26 from: Hayfield A bit of advice please My previous experance with curved points was with the SMP 36/24" radius kits, which came out nearly 2 foot long (well 18 inches) So I made a template with a B7 switch and kept the main line to 500' (78") (to keep other line out of the red in the min radius box) Made the point out of copperclad and it came out fine. I went back and printed off a B6 again at 500' main line radius, then thought I would look at a B6, I then found out I could keep the main radius down to 300' (47") without geting the other exit going into the red. Built another point and that worked out fine other than main line radius looks a bit tight. In reality I think my crossover will be on a starting radius of 400' (63") which would keep the other exit road shallower! On the ...
... topic: 206 Gimping a turnout for Bob posted: 25 Oct 2007 05:41 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, Bob Reid asked on RMweb for some help in identifying the size of this turnout. I thought it would make an interesting exercise in using perspective correction in the GIMP image editor: 272_gf_1.jpg Before attempting to gimp it some general clues can be seen. This is a loose-heel straight switch rather than an REA flexible (A, B, C, etc). The heel location is very clear in the pic. This is a passenger running line (hence the facing-points lock). The loop on the right is a goods-only line (hence the catch points). So it's unlikely to be a long fast turnout, i.e. no longer than say 1:12. On the other hand short 9ft and 10ft loose-heel switches are very unusual in running lines. Ditto V-crossings less than about 1:7. So probably somewhere between 12ft and 18ft for the switch with a V ...
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