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... topic: 3338 Turnout sleeper spacing posted: 9 Oct 2018 05:34 from: Graeme Lewis Hi I have recently begun using the "shove timber" function to try and emulate Midland Railway sleepering for turnouts (rather than drawing the timbers by hand on the base board). This works very well. However, I am having little success in trying to copy the control template once I have modified the sleeper spacings and widths. For example, I went into Real/Switch Settings and set an A switch using the control template which had been modified to the desired timbering. However, when I apply this for other turnouts the timbering stays as per the Templot default. I have also tried copying a whole turnout and adding this but usually I get a message saying I cannot do this because it is already in the storage box. I can manually modify every turnout but for a layout 70' x 22' some short cuts are desirable! Any help would be appreciated. Regards Graeme Lewis Attachment: attach_2763_3338_Ashton_Old_Road_s tation_looking_in_up_direction.JPG 194 posted: 9 Oct 2018 ...
... topic: 2616 When to use a curviform common crossing posted: 27 Jan 2015 09:36 from: Godfrey Earnshaw This is just a little something that keeps puzzling me. If I create a new turnout it appears to always be formed with a "regular" V crossing. If I curve the turnout it maintains the same "regular" V crossing. If I "insert" a turnout in an existing length of plain curved track it creates a turnout with a "regular" V crossing. My instincts tell me that at some point a "curviform" V crossing would be more suitable. So my question is "when and why" would I use a "curviform" crossing? posted: 27 Jan 2015 09:50 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Sorry guys just found the answer from a Mr Martin Wynne. Posted 28 April 2010- 04:05 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/14277-crossing-vees-on-curved-points/ posted: 27 Jan 2015 23:03 from: ...
... , which is what it is already, so that should be fine. I've made a start on the crossover in the station/platform area. Lengthened some, moved others. I think I'm getting there. Some feedback before I carry on with other points would be helpful. 2356_161622_220000000.png Attachment: attach_2468_3046_Shepperton_- _v11.0.4_- _Attempting_Timber_Shoving.box 227 posted: 16 Jul 2017 23:20 from: d827kelly Done some googling and further reading of various timber shoving threads, etc, Attached is attempt at shoving timbers on all the turnouts on the plan. I think I've mostly got it right, probably needs further tweaking and may have used more longer sleepers than would have been normal (era is 1959-62, BR(S )). Attachment: attach_2469_3046_Shepperton_- _v11.0.4c__- _Attempting_Timber_Shoving.box 251 posted: 16 Jul 2017 23:55 from: Tony W Hi Kelly. I have had a look at your first attempt posted earlier. You must not move the timbers supporting the crossings as you have done, only lengthen/ shorten ...
... to Templot Club. I could provide a jpeg of the rough plan from XTrkCad if that would help. Yes please, that would help a lot. You can attach it here, or link to it. Sorry, but your explanation is almost impossible to follow for those of us in the UK because of the differences in trans-pond terminology. As far as I know, you mean: double-ended siding= loop. wye= track triangle, as sometimes used for turning locomotives. wye switch= Y-turnout. switch= turnout. You will get in a total muddle in Templot if you follow the US practice of referring to an entire turnout as a "switch". In Templot and the UK, a switch is a "set of points" and refers only to the moving points part of a turnout, not the whole thing. But UK modellers are equally guilty of confusing the issue, by referring to an entire turnout as a "point". Unfortunately there's not much I can do about all this. Templot ...
85. 3 way point help
... topic: 2946 3 way point help posted: 12 Dec 2016 00:59 from: gibbard d Hi guys Is anyone able to help me out by tidying up and adding the missing V crossing and check rails to my attached 3 way turnout please? ive drawn it from 2 straight B6 turnouts. the positions, lengths and radius ideally cant be changed as the point needs to fit existing track layout already drawn. ive tried to follow the video on tandem points but every time its moving and altering the possition of the points and I'm not fully understanding the process Also is there a way of inserting/ showing the differnt types of chairs required as i would like to use the C&L chaired track but am new to to this and so dont know which chairs are required or where they sit within the point work Many Thanks Attachment: attach_2350_2946_3_way.box 251 posted: 12 Dec 2016 14:31 from: Stephen Freeman Hi, Unfortunately it won't work as drawn as the second B6 doesn't have enough clearance at the toe end, so I'd try an ...
... topic: 358 Industrial turnouts and Templot posted: 10 Mar 2008 03:40 from: Edward I'd appreciate any pointers in helping me fit a templot template onto the ringed turnout in the attached image from an early OS map. My attempt -copied at the end of this post- has managed to align with the entry and exit tracks but has a toe-to-heel length in 4mm/ft of 290mm. I should say that the original trackplan is a series of harbour lines (5'3" gauge or 21mm in 4mm/ft) with short loose-heel inset turnounts and sharp curves but my turnout design is more akin to the graceful lines of main-line practice. I have tried a customised turnout but I still cannot get a shorter turnout that matches the geometry. I'm assuming that in the OS map the line across the track in the approach to the turnout is the tie-bar? (BTW the lower left-hand corner of the map is at (1800mm,0mm) Thanks Edward 21 no-name [ ...
... topic: 3103 Using curve tool to make turnout into Y turnout. posted: 11 Oct 2017 15:46 from: Damien Morris 9a0c79612e05b11c013ebaf8f0fd4a9c.p ng Can the top turnout be turned into a Y using the curve tool? So it can flow into the signal depot? posted: 11 Oct 2017 16:06 from: Martin Wynne Hi Damien, You need a left-hand turnout there, not a Y-turnout. 1. delete the top turnout. 2. click on the other turnout. 3. delete to the control. 4. tools> make return curve. 5. template> insert turnout in plain track. 6. template> swap hand. 7. change to a curviform V-crossing. (click the green R at the top left of the screen, to C). 8. adjust the size and position of the turnout to suit. That probably means a smaller size (F5) and roam it (CTRL+ F9) forward a bit. 9. tools> make branch track. regards, Martin ...
... topic: 3230 XTrackCAD and Templot posted: 26 Feb 2018 18:34 from: Adam Richards Hi Martin, As you may know I am a maintainer of xtrkcad and my steely eye has fallen on the turnout parameter builder and the hand laid turnout creator. These are not a patch on templot, of course, and never will be. But they could be better about describing pre-made track than they are and there is also the idea of potentially importing templot templates or vice versus (no idea how feasible). I recall that you had a very useful page about prototype practice with an enumeration of the turnout parts in your old companion (which seems to be down) and the pointer to the prototype information in the new companion also seems to have an issue.... Any chance of a copy? It would be great to at least have a more sophisticated view than a frog point, a frog angle, and the lengths and offsets which is what we have to go on today. These don't seem to cope with ...
... topic: 3326 Marcway 3way Tandem Turnout posted: 11 Sep 2018 19:24 from: r_wilton Hi, i wonder i anyone can help a novice occasional user. I have a Marcway 3 way tandem righthand turnout with 60" and 48" radius turnouts. I would like to utilise this in a layout to be completed in templot. Problem is i'm having trouble trying to make a template for the 3 way. If anyone can help i'd be most grateful. Ray. posted: 11 Sep 2018 19:42 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ray, Can you post a photo of the Marcway? Or maybe actually scan it? Or take a rubbing from it and scan that? It's difficult to advise without seeing what you are trying to replicate. I have no idea what Marcway might refer to as a 60"/48" tandem turnout. Presumably this is 4mm scale, 00 or EM? To create a tandem turnout in Templot, click the tools> make 3-way tandem turnout> menu items. There are quite a lot ...
... topic: 3456 Non symmetrical Y turnout posted: 11 Jul 2019 13:04 from: Chris Hillier Hi all, New user here. I am getting to grips with simple LH or RH points and curved ones BUT How do I create a non-symmetrical Y point? I'm trying to create one with a 60" (1523mm) Right Hand radius (Main) and a 66" (1676mm) Left Hand radius (Branch)? I'm totally totally flummoxed! I've looked at various examples from the past but either the links to extra info are missing or as in one example – Method 3 (posted: 13 Oct 2012 09:02) – "Start with two lengths of curved plain track crossing over each other,." and using". menu, click peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at intersection menu item."- nothing happens?? I guess the instructions may be out of date for the version I'm using? Some notes mention symmetrical turnouts, but not non symmetrical Y's. I was using Templot ...
... topic: 2253 Brighton: struggling with a tandem turnout posted: 7 Jul 2013 19:34 from: TonyHagon I would be grateful for some help please.... I have been tearing what's left of my hair out with what should be a very simple set of templates... Six roads of the engine shed are fanned out from two sets of three way points and it's taken me days to work out the geometry. I have mastered one three way point (and discovered along the way that the OS map and what's on the ground aren't necessarily congruous! The OS plan shows the road passing the wheel lift straight, but photos show this to be S curved as I have laid them out here- I'm happy with the resulting templates) but the second one is eluding me. The problem is that the two turnouts seem to be S shaped as shown on this image...1876_071428_480000000.png Unfortunately, the water point icon hides the crossing point but the real problem seems to me the length of the lead in both turnouts. If you ...
... topic: 2017 Tandems and 3 ways posted: 12 Jul 2012 20:26 from: dave turner Hi In my neverending quest to learn about trackwork and templot in particular I've been looking at tandem turnouts. I have searched the previously posted topics on this subject and at this stage still need help on the following points. What is the difference between 3way and tandem turnouts? I'm sure I've seen this once but couldn't find the topic again to reread it. What suggestions can you make for deciding which turnout settings work together sensibly? All the examples I've seen are for the middle road being the main road. I'm particularly interested in curved turnouts where either of the outer roads are the main road. I haven't been able to work out how to achieve this. Ideally it would be nice to be able to:- Insert a turnout into a plain track aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road peg/align turnout over an existing turnout aligned on the turnout road rather than the main road. Possibly neither of the latter ideas are ...
93. How to do this?
... topic: 1384 How to do this? posted: 22 Feb 2011 23:59 from: BruceNordstrand Hi peeps Just looking for a tad of assistance. What I want to do is insert a turnout into the track on the right. Simple enough you say... well not this one I want to have the turnout straight road connecting to that new track at the bottom of the pic, thereby requiring the turnout road to be inserted into the current track flow. I want to do this as it will be a future mainline to further industries up my branch when I get more room to expand this section of the layout. Can I do what I am asking? Any tricks up anyone's sleeves if I can't "officially" do it? 632_221854_460000000.png Any help would be very appreciated. Cheers Bruce posted: 23 Feb 2011 00:12 from: Rob Manchester Bruce, Maybe I am misreading your question but can you not put the Notch on the end of the track you have at the bottom right, make a new template with a ...
... despite that I am really a CAD type of person, I am picking up the basics really easily. So far it's doing everything I am asking of it The only thing that confuses me is converting from British to American... I am trying to model PRR tracks in Z gauge using easily available data: 2547_091838_000000000.png Numbers in black are original (real), in blue are scale (1 :220) numbers. My questions are as follows: table.jpg And here PRR drawing (click to see full size): turnouts%2520etc%2520%2528131-155lbs%2529%2520-%2520dimensions%2520%252873001-C %2529.jpg I hope you don't mind my questions and I will not be to told to RTFM Thank you Chris Last edited on 9 Oct 2012 23:44 by bambuko posted: 7 Oct 2012 10:52 from: Martin Wynne bambuko wrote: I hope you don't mind my questions and I will not be to told to RTFM Hi Chris, Welcome to Templot Club. We certainly don't mind your questions - ...
95. 3 Way Tandem
... topic: 3147 3 Way Tandem posted: 3 Dec 2017 16:57 from: Alan Kettlewell Hello, My first post on here. I've spent a few full days getting the hang of things in Templot and got around to having a go at a three way tandem turnout. After many times following the various advice and examples I've finally produced the attached. It's to be a component on a friend's O gauge layout (hopefully) so is set at 0-MF with a main curve through the centre track of 4752.32mm. It was the first deviation away from the example in the tutorials I was following so I hope it's worked out about right. So I'm just asking experts to cast an eye over it with a view to advice where it may be incorrect (or not). Many thanks. Cheers...Alan Attachment: attach_2595_3147_My_1st_Tandem.box 279 posted: 3 Dec 2017 17:01 from: Alan Kettlewell I think I've cocked up and loaded the wrong box file. I'll try again...doh.. posted: 3 Dec 2017 17:08 ...
... topic: 3678 Curves on turnout template posted: 25 May 2020 03:22 from: Graham Long I am trying to make curved turnout template. I set the radius of the main line and minimum radius of 1200mm warning. In the information panel I get the switch and turnout curve radii and also a smallest radius on template figure. What does this last figure refer to? posted: 25 May 2020 10:38 from: Ian Allen Graham, The smallest radius will be just that. Your main running line will be radius X, your turnout curve radius will be Y. The smallest radius IIRC is between the crossing vee and the switch heel. If you change the crossing vee from Regular to Generic, you will see this minimum value change. I'm sure Martin or others will be able to explain more fully. Ian posted: 26 May 2020 13:19 from: Martin Wynne Graham Long wrote: I am trying to make curved turnout template. I set the radius of the main line and minimum radius of 1200mm warning. In ...
... topic: 460 Peco medium 00 turnout posted: 18 Jun 2008 22:45 from: Geoff Cook Hi Martin has placed in samples and examples box files for Peco small and large radius turnouts, does anybody have a box file of the Peco medium radius turnout in 00 that they would like to share needed to create new fiddle yard entrance Geoff Cook posted: 24 Jun 2008 02:28 from: Martin Wynne Geoff Cook wrote: Martin has placed in samples and examples box files for Peco small and large radius turnouts, does anybody have a box file of the Peco medium radius turnout in 00 that they would like to share Hi Geoff, I intended to create templates for all the Peco range, but retired as a mental wreck after just two! Sorry about that. However, all the Peco turnouts have a common 12-degree exit angle. That means that you can create a "footprint" for planning purposes for a medium radius turnout simply by adding some approach track to the short turnout template. It won't look like a medium radius ...
... or having a blonde year, but having spent ages trying to master Templot, I can't even get the crossover I've just drawn to print. I was hoping to be able to rebuild my current layout more prototypically using Templot, but personally I find it extremely complicated to use. I've looked at the videos and it all seems too easy, but reality is different to what is shown on some of the videos. for instance, I make a simple curved crossover on double track. I then try to modify one of the turnouts to get an easier radius, but then another turnout appears at random on the overall plan. I then find I can't print the original crossover, despite going into the template store; there's no print box shown. Has anyone yet written an idiots guide to Templot yet, or is there anyone out there who fancies doing a rather large layout plan? I have a very professionally produced plan by the late Frank Dyer I'm trying to build. posted: 12 Aug 2010 21:57 from: Martin Wynne roythebus wrote: ...
... an Engineer's siding; a freight arrival/ departure loop (originally the down line); and the current single track branch line (originally the up line). To the right are four tracks which are from the top: an Engineer's siding (previously access to the former Goods Yard); Platform 3 (the former down through platform); Platform 2 (the former up through platform); and Platform 1 (a bay platform). Starting at Platform 3 on the right, I need the toe end of the turnout to cross the baseboard joint at 90 degrees and since I am using pre-assembled common crossings from C&L (which are straight), I think this turnout is 'final'. If I reduce the radius any further then the diverging radius drops below 36 inches and I have a transition of zero length between this curve and the common crossing. I have then made an ordinary crossover at 44.67mm centres, which should provide the access to Platform 2. I'm not sure why it stops short of the baseboard edge at ...
100. Straights and bends
... topic: 1765 Straights and bends posted: 6 Jan 2012 12:32 from: r_wilton I'm new to templot and have just finished my first soldered PCB turnout. My attentions are now on producing a small layout (12' x 16") using templot. I've played around a bit with templates and looked at a few of the tutorial videos but i've come a bit stuck with one (of many i'm sure) problem. I have two offset parallel straight sections separated by about 12". I want to join these with an s bend to form a single track and then add some turnouts along the length. My problem is joining the two sections with the s bend while maintaining the parallel straight section at the start and end of the track. I've tried transition curves (easement from straight) etc. but i always end up with a curve at the end or the straights not being parallel. I'm sure there's a simple solution, but i'm still trying to get my head around all the options and get lost so any pointers would ...
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