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... crossover and work from there? Hi Alex, There are no fixed rules. Beginners in Templot tend to go for the brick-by-brick approach, possibly using the F7 snapping function to "clip" individual templates together, in a similar manner to other track-planning programs. This method is simple and quick, but it can produce a disjointed "train-set" look if you are not careful. More experienced users prefer to lay out the broad sweep of the running lines first, and then insert the turnout templates in them (or align the templates over them). This is the classic way to use Templot and the most likely to produce a prototypical sweeping feel to pointwork. Or you can use whatever mixture of methods suits your own way of thinking and working. There are always several different ways to arrive at a similar result. This video shows some of the basic track planning functions in Templot: starter video regards, Martin. posted: 16 Sep 2008 22:51 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alex, I have ...
... topic: 1093 The Y turnout again.... posted: 1 Apr 2010 06:03 from: BruceNordstrand Hi All Well, I finally used Templot to lay out my new layout and have pretty much everything handled aside from 2 Y turnouts and a crossing. Now I know Templot can't handle big angle crossings, and thats fine, but I have read that Y turnouts are possible. 632_010047_420000000.png These are the 3 offending bits.... The upper turnout needs to fit into the pace as indicated. Looking from the switchpoints, the RH track is a 25.5" radius, the LH track is 48.7" radius: 632_010050_030000000.png The next Y is the one on the right of the top image. It is a little more subtle, [From the switchpoint end] the RH track is 45.1" radius and the LH track is 274" radius. 632_010054_070000000.png And for reference, the layout on the town/yard side, so it all fits together 632_010055_580000000.png This has taken a couple of days but I am happy with it. I ...
... 2. The track is just 2 templates so far, and I've used a transition curves in both to get to this stage. I've been wondering if I need to split up the main lines into smaller sections to have greater control as the radii changes, or will that just produce more doglegs at every join? Any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Andrew undefined 2787_031623_180000000.png posted: 4 Oct 2013 14:18 from: Phil O Hi Andrew I would would start a new template from about halfway between the double junction turnout and the cross over turnout and curve the template to about half way the curve and then geometry expanding transition to get a tangent with the existing curved template, the template may not be exactly over the drawing but the way it is drawn you will not get a smooth transition. HTH Phil posted: 4 Oct 2013 14:34 from: Ian Allen Andrew, can you post the files on here? Ian posted: 4 Oct 2013 18:16 from: Martin Wynne Hi Andrew, Designing track over a background guide ...
... please. There must be tools and techniques in there somewhere for "tidying up" a plan. The attached is based on a trackplan of Wantage, drawn by Barry Norman and published in one of the Wild Swan books. All of the fundamentals are in the right places (I'll post the background image separately as it seems that only one attachment can accompany each message) but I can't get it "tidy". There are two main issues that I'd like to solve.- I've designed it so that each of the turnouts have "link" pieces of plain tracks in between them, so that I can deal with it section by section. If you look, for example, at 15: Link Road, then I can connect it to a turnout at one end, but try as I might, I can't join it to the turnout at the other end. How do I do this?- when I have a number of link-turnout-link-turnout pieces joined together, how is it possible to (say) curve ...
45. Getting Started
... topic: 1837 Getting Started posted: 19 Feb 2012 12:44 from: Adrian (ffoil) Hello, I've downloaded TEMPLOT Version 0.97.b, and I'm trying to start to produce a simple yard (before moving on to something more complicated), but I think I'm falling at the first hurdle. When I start up, it shows me a curved turnout, which seems to be anchored to the bottom left hand corner of the screen. How do I move it to somewhere more useful (I've worked out how to change the shape of it). I did at one point (no pun intended) manage to delete it, but when I tried to place a piece of track, I only seemed to be able to align it with the line of the "branch" part of the now vanished turnout. Where am I going wrong? Thanks Adrian posted: 19 Feb 2012 13:23 from: Martin Wynne Adrian (ffoil) wrote: Where am I going wrong? Hi Adrian, Welcome to Templot Club. To move the ...
... topic: 1089 Inserting a turnout... how to control WHICH turnout.... posted: 31 Mar 2010 04:58 from: BruceNordstrand Howdy all I am possibly being lazy, but haven't found through my looking, in finding out WHAT sort of turnout is inserted into a piece of plain track when I select "insert turnout into plain track". As I am modelling US style track, I am using the usa_style_turnouts box file as my base. In it are representations of US style turnouts and I wish to base ALL my turnouts on the #5 in this file. So the inevitable question is.... when I DO select the "insert turnout into plain track" option, can I have it insert my base #5 turnout and not one Templot decides to insert? Do I need to somehow make my #5 turnout the control template, if so how? I know there are a few noob questions here but hopefully someone can assist while I go figure out how to make S curves to insert the ...
... topic: 3170 Templot update version 218a now available. posted: 4 Jan 2018 01:24 from: Martin Wynne Dear all, The latest Templot program update is now available. Version 218a. Your copy of Templot should update automatically if you restart it and follow the instructions. If you have any problems with that, see the download and notes at: http://templot.com/companion/installation.php The main change in this update is the new tools> make 3-way tandem turnout> function. For more information please see this page: http://templot.com/companion/3_way_tandem_turnouts.php which I shall be expanding in the next few days. regards, Martin. posted: 4 Jan 2018 10:31 from: madscientist You are a national treasure Martin, how HM missed you in the recent list is beyond me Last edited on 4 Jan 2018 10:32 by madscientist posted: 4 Jan 2018 11:17 from: Paul Boyd Gosh, Martin, that's brilliant! All those hours spent fiddling with partial templates, and now ...
... topic: 3756 Inverted sleepering on turnout posted: 4 Sep 2020 21:26 from: Julian Roberts Have I done something stupid? I'm looking at the ends of the sleepers on this turnout. I hope to attach a picture now or soon. The mainline sleepering goes in steps on this turnout, while the turnout road goes smoothly. Normally it's the other way round. I've got this far, sleepers stuck down to template, before noticing it's odd. Have I somehow made a RH turnout on a left hand bend instead of a LH turnout? Or is this how it's meant to look- with a loose heel switch does Templot generate interlaced sleepering automatically and is this what interlaced timbering looks like? posted: 4 Sep 2020 21:41 from: Julian Roberts Two photos on the Gallery now posted: 4 Sep 2020 21:43 from: Julian Roberts 3591_041639_260000000.jpg 3591_041637_320000001.jpg posted: 4 Sep 2020 21:46 from: Julian Roberts Or is it perfectly OK? After all I didn't see anything odd till I'd got to this stage. And ...
... topic: 3014 Exactoscale P4 Company turnout bases posted: 17 Apr 2017 11:00 from: Hayfield I have a question about the Exactoscale P4 Company pre-formed turnout bases, I understand that when designing these bases they are for P4 turnouts but I am thinking of using them for EM gauge, I have printed off a standard turnout template from Templot and have found there are a couple of subtle differences. One which is easy to overcome on an A5 turnout, is that at the heal end it is a Timber short. Another is that as the base has the same number of sleepers but as you would expect the length is 5 mm longer, which I believe is easy to overcome. One issue which may not be as easy to overcome is the length of some timbers, from the toe end Plan Base 4 6 Goes into the next timber length by 2 timbers 4 4 Problem continues as above 4 3 Only one timber out of register 2 1 Problem solved There are 5 timbers potentially too short, I could remove 2 timbers and ...
... topic: 2936 Changing closure distance posted: 24 Oct 2016 14:35 from: Dave Phillips I am trying to make a custom turnout template to match turnouts already built in a custom fixture. I need to increase the distance between the switch heel and the frog without changing the frog angle and thus increase the closure radius. It's a straight switch, regular V crossing turnout. There does not appear to be any built-in functions to do this with a mouse action, so I've been working with partial templates. The approach I've been thinking of is to make four partial templates, the switch, the frog, and straight plain track main road closure and a curved plain track turnout side closure. I've got the frog by blanking to the entry straight, but can't figure out how to blank from the switch heel to the end of the turnout. I can blank out from the toe end to the the heel but not from the heel to the exit end of the turnout. I'd really like to do this with a single template since ...
51. Y Turnouts
... topic: 2036 Y Turnouts posted: 28 Jul 2012 04:38 from: Mark C Folks, I am a novice to Templot and am interested in Y Turnouts for a compact American HO shelf switching layout based on John Allen's Timesaver Puzzle, see below. Obviously, this is not prototype inspired. 2480_272315_180000000.png For anyone interested, Google "John Allen Timesaver" to get learn more on this fascinating concept. I have not yet gone through the 2001 tutorial and your 2008 update for building Y Turnouts. In the meantime, I have created a trackplan using HO NMRA #4 model turnouts instead., see screenshot below. 2480_272320_040000000.png I'm sure I have made a lot of mistakes in this design, but it looks like it should work. Attached is the Box file for this trackplan. Any advice on how this could be improved would be appreciated. Any advice on how to get started with a more accurate rendition of the Allen's Timesaver trackplan would also be appreciated. Is there any news on when Symmetrical Y Turnout Templates might be included in Templot? ...
... topic: 2273 tandem turnouts again posted: 27 Jul 2013 12:26 from: stuart1600 I've been following the guidance in Martin's reply to Richard T. back in 2011 to produce the middle V-crossing for a tandem turnout; using Templot2. Unfortunately I must be misreading something because I can't get this to work as it appears it should from the guidance notes. I've also read the recent exchanges re:Brighton tandems, but still can't work out what I'm doing wrong. I've positioned the peg using CTRL-F8 on the intersection of the two rails and put the notch on the peg. I've created a new template with the crossing at 1:12 (it's obviously going to be much more than that anyway), curviform, and gaunt options selected as per instructions. I then peg this to the notch (using the *multiply key). The notes then suggest using F6 to adjust the curvature to match the underlying template- but it's obvious that the control template is not aligned over the background template(s) at all ...
... options, a) a straight plot of the 1:2500 OS map, which as you can imagine gives a rather long layout (20'+ to get the interesting bit in, and b) a curved version (inspired by the late Chris Matthewman's "Striving") that would in theory fit in my 18' x 12' living room (occasionally) In a nut shell, does any one have any comments on the "model of a railway" versus the "model railway" approach Also some of the turnouts look very long- does anyone know what sort of geometry the LBSC would have used to lay out the track in the 1880s? (ie preferred crossing angles) any hints on double slips? best wishes Richard Jones Wirral ps illustration of approach b) attached for any comments or suggestions- I can't add the illustration of approach a) as this is the OS map and would breach copyright! 1763_150741_460000000.jpg Last edited on 15 Jan 2010 12:43 by Richard_Jones posted: 24 Feb 2010 13:51 from: Martin Wynne ...
54. Minories
... topic: 2584 Minories posted: 28 Nov 2014 21:18 from: Hayfield I have a small collection of vintage stock, namely Jamieson locos and Ratio/CCW/Kings Cross coaches. Now the Minories plan would given that I have a small room the ability to run this old stock on a vintage designed plan. I have plenty of old track building parts so happy to make the turnouts The room being about 8' square would lend itself to a L shaped plan, with the turnouts on a curve. I think the curve may have to go down to 2.5' radius, just to give more room for the station and platforms. The initial question is what size turnouts did CJF use for the plan please I am thinking of the larger version S54 in the 1975 plan book. All thoughts and ideas are very welcome please Last edited on 28 Nov 2014 21:19 by Hayfield posted: 29 Nov 2014 12:08 from: Simon Dunkley I suspect the smallest that Peco then produced, i.e. 2' radius. I base ...
... time round, I built the points and crossings on top of my own scale drawings using various curved templates in the 24", 30", 36", 48", 60" radius with various frog angles. This time, I plan to use Templot to design the trackwork but I am at a loss to know which Switch Type& Crossing Angle to use when setting up at the beginning, as this layout is based on LPTB (ie pre London Underground). Looking at "Prototype pre-nationalisation bulkhead track turnout data" by Brian Oldford and Keith Norgrove (see http://www.clag.org.uk/protodata-bullhead.html) shows that the LPTB used a range of switch types and Crossing Angles ranging from A4 thru A8, B6 thru B11, C7 thru C14, D8 thru D12, E10 thru E16. How on earth does one work out which one would have been used for a particular switch/crossing? At the present, I am experimenting, using my existing 24", 30", 36", 48", 60 ...
... topic: 3013 Make a crossover from straight to curved track posted: 16 Apr 2017 11:36 from: Panos Tsirigotis Hello there. Although I am about to complete my track plan (with all the imperfections it has), there is a specific spot marked with a red cirlce in the attached screenshot which I cannot bridge. It is a crossover from straight to curved track. My problem is that I want to insert a curved turnout with it's curvature oriented at the track's curve (If you know what I mean). It seems that the inserted turnout in the curved track has an opposite curvature. (Or there is an optical illusion?) .Is there any other shortcut to make this crossover? thank you in advance Attachment: attach_2416_3013_Crossover_2.jpg 308 posted: 16 Apr 2017 12:08 from: Tony W Hi Panos. I would try to link the two ends with a piece of plain track and get the alignment right first and then insert a turnout into it, after which you can play around with the handedness and curvature of ...
... where I got to around 4 years ago. I am basically at the stage of having to re-learn Templot almost from the beginning although I have followed the progress on the Templot Forum. The recent discussion on importing and using Maps as Background Shapes has also spurred me along. I did import a Map of Moretonhampstead that I copied from one of the many books that I have acquired. It compares reasonably well with the 25" Maps of the NLS. I'm not too sure if I have used the correct style of Turnout. The 1 in 8.25 RAM/ CLM seems an odd size E.g:- REA semi-curved C-size left-hand switch (unjoggled) 1 in 8.25 RAM( 1 in 8.28 CLM) regular V-crossing equalized-incremental timbering. Anyway that's where I am at. Regards David Attachment: attach_2515_3095_moretonhampstead _2017_10_06_1108_32.box 307 Last edited on 14 Oct 2017 10:36 by David Higgs posted: 6 Oct 2017 12:31 from: David Higgs This the original Background Shape I was using. Attachment: attach_2516_3095_start.bgs 289 ...
... moved. I think the DMU platform in the bottom left is probably in the fixed category. Also we have to steer clear of the hinged board joint, and preferably cross it only at a right angle. In P4 crossing a board joint at a skew angle requires some precision carpentry to avoid misalignments. A slight gap between the boards (due to an uneven floor perhaps) can be crossed square, but not at an angle. The first idea is to replace the slip road with a separate crossover, using a tandem turnout in the main: fremington1.png Pros: Maintains the existing run-round length. Tracks cross the joint square. Clear length in the platform road is increased a little while using the main road to head spur. Cons: The head spur for running round is very short, only about 12" clear. Just room for a loco only. The design looks cramped and more typical of an inner-city terminus than out in the sticks. In the second idea I moved the turnout to the other side of the board ...
... , please? It's not one I've seen before. Hi Derek, "S1J" chairs are joint chairs. They have a wider base than ordinary S1 chairs, for use adjacent to rail joints. The rail is supported on the wider base as close to the joint as possible. The jaws are the same size as ordinary S1 chairs, so that the fishplates still fit between them. If you look closely in the NERA 1926 SRE book, you will see that S1J chairs are shown adjacent to the rail joints within some turnouts and other formations, and included in the parts lists. S1J also used at the ends of 60ft track panels in some cases. S1J chair drawing in the NERA book at page 5. In the drawing of a rail joint on page 1 (left middle), joint chairs and 12" wide joint timbering is indicated by dotted lines. You can see that the extra width means the rail is supported as far as the first fish-bolt. cheers, Martin. posted: 12 Sep 2020 23:21 from ...
... if you would state what scale you are trying to use, and post the bgs file of your background image, and the box file of what you have done so far. There are plenty of people that can and will help, but we need the basic info to see what can be done. All the best, Brian. posted: 25 Sep 2014 08:28 from: Hayfield Simon Like all things I tend to find the longest way round doing things. I would fit the bottom crossover and two left hand turnouts first, then fit the sidings. The straight ones and curved ends are separate lengths, then go about joining the top with the bottom posted: 25 Sep 2014 16:28 from: Tony W Hi Simon. Welcome to the Templot Club. What you are trying to do is more than Templot will allow. You can have one template of track with a straight section and a single curve or a template with a reverse curve but not all three. You will need to break your straight, left hand curve, ...
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