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... , which is what it is already, so that should be fine. I've made a start on the crossover in the station/platform area. Lengthened some, moved others. I think I'm getting there. Some feedback before I carry on with other points would be helpful. 2356_161622_220000000.png Attachment: attach_2468_3046_Shepperton_- _v11.0.4_- _Attempting_Timber_Shoving.box 227 posted: 16 Jul 2017 23:20 from: d827kelly Done some googling and further reading of various timber shoving threads, etc, Attached is attempt at shoving timbers on all the turnouts on the plan. I think I've mostly got it right, probably needs further tweaking and may have used more longer sleepers than would have been normal (era is 1959-62, BR(S )). Attachment: attach_2469_3046_Shepperton_- _v11.0.4c__- _Attempting_Timber_Shoving.box 251 posted: 16 Jul 2017 23:55 from: Tony W Hi Kelly. I have had a look at your first attempt posted earlier. You must not move the timbers supporting the crossings as you have done, only lengthen/ shorten ...
... topic: 3338 Turnout sleeper spacing posted: 9 Oct 2018 05:34 from: Graeme Lewis Hi I have recently begun using the "shove timber" function to try and emulate Midland Railway sleepering for turnouts (rather than drawing the timbers by hand on the base board). This works very well. However, I am having little success in trying to copy the control template once I have modified the sleeper spacings and widths. For example, I went into Real/Switch Settings and set an A switch using the control template which had been modified to the desired timbering. However, when I apply this for other turnouts the timbering stays as per the Templot default. I have also tried copying a whole turnout and adding this but usually I get a message saying I cannot do this because it is already in the storage box. I can manually modify every turnout but for a layout 70' x 22' some short cuts are desirable! Any help would be appreciated. Regards Graeme Lewis Attachment: attach_2763_3338_Ashton_Old_Road_s tation_looking_in_up_direction.JPG 194 posted: 9 Oct 2018 ...
... topic: 612 Problem that has me stumped....tangential track posted: 3 Nov 2008 12:51 from: Gordon S Came across something this morning that is so basic, but I can't seem to find a solution. I want to take a turnout off a 914mm (36") radius curve, with the main line continuing straight at a tangent to the curve. I have drawn the curve and inserted the turnout, but no matter what I try cannot get the straight part of the turnout to align with the straight track. Continuing the straight plain track and overlaying the turnout shows the straight section of the turnout curves slightly and I cannot find a way of making the stright section of the turnout straight. I have tried inserting the turnout into the straight section to overcome that problem, but then find I cannot get the radius to tie up, no matter what adjustment is made to F5. I know this smacks of RTR track, but it is in a hidden section and the simplest way to deal with an issue. Apologies ...
... topic: 2616 When to use a curviform common crossing posted: 27 Jan 2015 09:36 from: Godfrey Earnshaw This is just a little something that keeps puzzling me. If I create a new turnout it appears to always be formed with a "regular" V crossing. If I curve the turnout it maintains the same "regular" V crossing. If I "insert" a turnout in an existing length of plain curved track it creates a turnout with a "regular" V crossing. My instincts tell me that at some point a "curviform" V crossing would be more suitable. So my question is "when and why" would I use a "curviform" crossing? posted: 27 Jan 2015 09:50 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Sorry guys just found the answer from a Mr Martin Wynne. Posted 28 April 2010- 04:05 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/14277-crossing-vees-on-curved-points/ posted: 27 Jan 2015 23:03 from: ...
... :59 from: Martin Wynne Graham Long wrote: HiI am grappling with making a template for a scissors crossover. I understand there are two types of scissors crossover i.e Scissors 1 and 2. The scissors 1 is more difficult. I am not sure if this means that more difficult to get make template or it is more difficult to make the formation from the template. Could I get clarification? Are they both prototypical? Hi Graham, In a type 1 scissors crossover the V-crossings on the diamond are in the turnout radius section of each turnout: 2_280306_090000000.png In a type 2 scissors crossover the V-crossings on the diamond are in the crossing entry section of each turnout: 2_280306_090000001.png colour codes: 2_280441_190000000.png Note that the type 2 scissors is shorter with sharper turnout curves, so you may need to use a longer size for the turnouts. Both types are equally easy to get to this stage in Templot with a few clicks. See below for the basic recipe. The diagrams above are in curved track, but it is the same for ...
... topic: 2489 Connecting three lines into a tandem turnout posted: 19 Jul 2014 16:37 from: Valentin Hello, This is my first post here. I am not new to Templot but I have little experience for what I try to achieve. Attached is my attempt in creating the plan for a very old station; I managed to design the turntable but now I want to connect the three lines into one using a tandem turnout but I cannot get smooth curves from the three exits to the existing lines. I am sure this not complicated for the more experienced ones but I have been struggling for a while. turntable_3_zpsa3b9e018.png And the BOX file: Attachment: attach_1875_2489_turntable_3.box 244 posted: 19 Jul 2014 19:23 from: Trevor Walling Hello, I think you may struggle trying to join into a tandem.I think it would be more likely to succeed if you make a tandem turnout on its own first.Once you have the tandem it would then be a question of extending the three routes to the turntable.Doing tandems is one of the more complex formations that take ...
... to Templot Club. I could provide a jpeg of the rough plan from XTrkCad if that would help. Yes please, that would help a lot. You can attach it here, or link to it. Sorry, but your explanation is almost impossible to follow for those of us in the UK because of the differences in trans-pond terminology. As far as I know, you mean: double-ended siding= loop. wye= track triangle, as sometimes used for turning locomotives. wye switch= Y-turnout. switch= turnout. You will get in a total muddle in Templot if you follow the US practice of referring to an entire turnout as a "switch". In Templot and the UK, a switch is a "set of points" and refers only to the moving points part of a turnout, not the whole thing. But UK modellers are equally guilty of confusing the issue, by referring to an entire turnout as a "point". Unfortunately there's not much I can do about all this. Templot ...
... topic: 3230 XTrackCAD and Templot posted: 26 Feb 2018 18:34 from: Adam Richards Hi Martin, As you may know I am a maintainer of xtrkcad and my steely eye has fallen on the turnout parameter builder and the hand laid turnout creator. These are not a patch on templot, of course, and never will be. But they could be better about describing pre-made track than they are and there is also the idea of potentially importing templot templates or vice versus (no idea how feasible). I recall that you had a very useful page about prototype practice with an enumeration of the turnout parts in your old companion (which seems to be down) and the pointer to the prototype information in the new companion also seems to have an issue.... Any chance of a copy? It would be great to at least have a more sophisticated view than a frog point, a frog angle, and the lengths and offsets which is what we have to go on today. These don't seem to cope with ...
... topic: 358 Industrial turnouts and Templot posted: 10 Mar 2008 03:40 from: Edward I'd appreciate any pointers in helping me fit a templot template onto the ringed turnout in the attached image from an early OS map. My attempt -copied at the end of this post- has managed to align with the entry and exit tracks but has a toe-to-heel length in 4mm/ft of 290mm. I should say that the original trackplan is a series of harbour lines (5'3" gauge or 21mm in 4mm/ft) with short loose-heel inset turnounts and sharp curves but my turnout design is more akin to the graceful lines of main-line practice. I have tried a customised turnout but I still cannot get a shorter turnout that matches the geometry. I'm assuming that in the OS map the line across the track in the approach to the turnout is the tie-bar? (BTW the lower left-hand corner of the map is at (1800mm,0mm) Thanks Edward 21 no-name [ ...
... topic: 3103 Using curve tool to make turnout into Y turnout. posted: 11 Oct 2017 15:46 from: Damien Morris 9a0c79612e05b11c013ebaf8f0fd4a9c.p ng Can the top turnout be turned into a Y using the curve tool? So it can flow into the signal depot? posted: 11 Oct 2017 16:06 from: Martin Wynne Hi Damien, You need a left-hand turnout there, not a Y-turnout. 1. delete the top turnout. 2. click on the other turnout. 3. delete to the control. 4. tools> make return curve. 5. template> insert turnout in plain track. 6. template> swap hand. 7. change to a curviform V-crossing. (click the green R at the top left of the screen, to C). 8. adjust the size and position of the turnout to suit. That probably means a smaller size (F5) and roam it (CTRL+ F9) forward a bit. 9. tools> make branch track. regards, Martin ...
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... topic: 2946 3 way point help posted: 12 Dec 2016 00:59 from: gibbard d Hi guys Is anyone able to help me out by tidying up and adding the missing V crossing and check rails to my attached 3 way turnout please? ive drawn it from 2 straight B6 turnouts. the positions, lengths and radius ideally cant be changed as the point needs to fit existing track layout already drawn. ive tried to follow the video on tandem points but every time its moving and altering the possition of the points and I'm not fully understanding the process Also is there a way of inserting/ showing the differnt types of chairs required as i would like to use the C&L chaired track but am new to to this and so dont know which chairs are required or where they sit within the point work Many Thanks Attachment: attach_2350_2946_3_way.box 251 posted: 12 Dec 2016 14:31 from: Stephen Freeman Hi, Unfortunately it won't work as drawn as the second B6 doesn't have enough clearance at the toe end, so I'd try an ...
... topic: 1765 Straights and bends posted: 6 Jan 2012 12:32 from: r_wilton I'm new to templot and have just finished my first soldered PCB turnout. My attentions are now on producing a small layout (12' x 16") using templot. I've played around a bit with templates and looked at a few of the tutorial videos but i've come a bit stuck with one (of many i'm sure) problem. I have two offset parallel straight sections separated by about 12". I want to join these with an s bend to form a single track and then add some turnouts along the length. My problem is joining the two sections with the s bend while maintaining the parallel straight section at the start and end of the track. I've tried transition curves (easement from straight) etc. but i always end up with a curve at the end or the straights not being parallel. I'm sure there's a simple solution, but i'm still trying to get my head around all the options and get lost so any pointers would ...
... an Engineer's siding; a freight arrival/ departure loop (originally the down line); and the current single track branch line (originally the up line). To the right are four tracks which are from the top: an Engineer's siding (previously access to the former Goods Yard); Platform 3 (the former down through platform); Platform 2 (the former up through platform); and Platform 1 (a bay platform). Starting at Platform 3 on the right, I need the toe end of the turnout to cross the baseboard joint at 90 degrees and since I am using pre-assembled common crossings from C&L (which are straight), I think this turnout is 'final'. If I reduce the radius any further then the diverging radius drops below 36 inches and I have a transition of zero length between this curve and the common crossing. I have then made an ordinary crossover at 44.67mm centres, which should provide the access to Platform 2. I'm not sure why it stops short of the baseboard edge at ...
... topic: 2721 Blank after turnout posted: 8 Jul 2015 09:07 from: Godfrey Earnshaw I created a transition from curve and tighter curve.I inserted a turnout in plain track. Immediately track beyond turnout blanks. If I roam the turnout the blanking goes with it.If I make Branch Track, track is timbered.I have looked through all the "do" options.I have looked through the "generator" options. I'm puzzled, I have done this hundreds of times before and never seen this. Cheers Godders Attachment: attach_2141_2721_Blank_After_Turno ut_2015_07_08_0904_55.box 228 posted: 8 Jul 2015 10:47 from: Martin Wynne Godfrey Earnshaw wrote: I inserted a turnout in plain track. Immediately track beyond turnout blanks. Hi Godders, You have set real> timbering> exit track> exit rails only menu option. You need to change it to exit sleepered. p.s. except in the switch you have the timbering centres much closer than scale -- the ganger may have trouble hitting the keys. Also the vee nose is not properly supported in the A chair. Have you copied ...
... topic: 3678 Curves on turnout template posted: 25 May 2020 03:22 from: Graham Long I am trying to make curved turnout template. I set the radius of the main line and minimum radius of 1200mm warning. In the information panel I get the switch and turnout curve radii and also a smallest radius on template figure. What does this last figure refer to? posted: 25 May 2020 10:38 from: Ian Allen Graham, The smallest radius will be just that. Your main running line will be radius X, your turnout curve radius will be Y. The smallest radius IIRC is between the crossing vee and the switch heel. If you change the crossing vee from Regular to Generic, you will see this minimum value change. I'm sure Martin or others will be able to explain more fully. Ian posted: 26 May 2020 13:19 from: Martin Wynne Graham Long wrote: I am trying to make curved turnout template. I set the radius of the main line and minimum radius of 1200mm warning. In ...
... topic: 460 Peco medium 00 turnout posted: 18 Jun 2008 22:45 from: Geoff Cook Hi Martin has placed in samples and examples box files for Peco small and large radius turnouts, does anybody have a box file of the Peco medium radius turnout in 00 that they would like to share needed to create new fiddle yard entrance Geoff Cook posted: 24 Jun 2008 02:28 from: Martin Wynne Geoff Cook wrote: Martin has placed in samples and examples box files for Peco small and large radius turnouts, does anybody have a box file of the Peco medium radius turnout in 00 that they would like to share Hi Geoff, I intended to create templates for all the Peco range, but retired as a mental wreck after just two! Sorry about that. However, all the Peco turnouts have a common 12-degree exit angle. That means that you can create a "footprint" for planning purposes for a medium radius turnout simply by adding some approach track to the short turnout template. It won't look like a medium radius ...
... topic: 2448 New mouse action: adjust turnout-road exit posted: 27 Apr 2014 20:29 from: Martin Wynne A long-standing niggle in Templot has been the limited range of options for the turnout-road exit. The existing options are: 1. normal -- the turnout road terminates at the prototype rail joint in the vee splice rail (CTRL-6 peg position, TVJP). 2. crossover -- the turnout road terminates at the mid-point of a crossover (CTRL-5 peg position, TXP). This may be longer or shorter than normal, according to the current TS track centres setting. 3. long -- the turnout road terminates opposite the end of the main road exit track (TOLP peg position). But always with the additional proviso that the turnout road cannot be longer than the main road in any event (template overall length). This can occasionally cause difficulty, for example in a situation such as this: 2_271436_020000001.png A wide crossover has been inserted in tracks at ...
... topic: 2253 Brighton: struggling with a tandem turnout posted: 7 Jul 2013 19:34 from: TonyHagon I would be grateful for some help please.... I have been tearing what's left of my hair out with what should be a very simple set of templates... Six roads of the engine shed are fanned out from two sets of three way points and it's taken me days to work out the geometry. I have mastered one three way point (and discovered along the way that the OS map and what's on the ground aren't necessarily congruous! The OS plan shows the road passing the wheel lift straight, but photos show this to be S curved as I have laid them out here- I'm happy with the resulting templates) but the second one is eluding me. The problem is that the two turnouts seem to be S shaped as shown on this image...1876_071428_480000000.png Unfortunately, the water point icon hides the crossing point but the real problem seems to me the length of the lead in both turnouts. If you ...
... topic: 3456 Non symmetrical Y turnout posted: 11 Jul 2019 13:04 from: Chris Hillier Hi all, New user here. I am getting to grips with simple LH or RH points and curved ones BUT How do I create a non-symmetrical Y point? I'm trying to create one with a 60" (1523mm) Right Hand radius (Main) and a 66" (1676mm) Left Hand radius (Branch)? I'm totally totally flummoxed! I've looked at various examples from the past but either the links to extra info are missing or as in one example – Method 3 (posted: 13 Oct 2012 09:02) – "Start with two lengths of curved plain track crossing over each other,." and using". menu, click peg/align tools> make diamond-crossing at intersection menu item."- nothing happens?? I guess the instructions may be out of date for the version I'm using? Some notes mention symmetrical turnouts, but not non symmetrical Y's. I was using Templot ...
... or having a blonde year, but having spent ages trying to master Templot, I can't even get the crossover I've just drawn to print. I was hoping to be able to rebuild my current layout more prototypically using Templot, but personally I find it extremely complicated to use. I've looked at the videos and it all seems too easy, but reality is different to what is shown on some of the videos. for instance, I make a simple curved crossover on double track. I then try to modify one of the turnouts to get an easier radius, but then another turnout appears at random on the overall plan. I then find I can't print the original crossover, despite going into the template store; there's no print box shown. Has anyone yet written an idiots guide to Templot yet, or is there anyone out there who fancies doing a rather large layout plan? I have a very professionally produced plan by the late Frank Dyer I'm trying to build. posted: 12 Aug 2010 21:57 from: Martin Wynne roythebus wrote: ...
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