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... on 60mm centres, so approximately 240mm min. The curved entrance will of course determine the baseboard dimensions in that area. However I can't see the significance of these questions. I am trying to achieve the most efficient use of track to get the longest possible storage roads given that my restrictions are governed by the minimum radius 915mm and the RAM, which I have selected as 1 in 8, because that will give me a 927mm minimum. Godders posted: 9 Dec 2014 12:27 from: Nigel Brown Hi Godders To ... topic: 2591 Storage Yard efficient useage posted: 8 Dec 2014 10:30 from: Godfrey Earnshaw My proposed layout is basically a horseshoe. The storage/fiddle yards will be on one leg of the horseshoe. My question is what is the best arrangement to come from the "horse shoe" toe into the storage yard to give the maximum length of siding in the leg. I am working in 00-SF, the entrance curve is minimum 915mm (36") radius. The sidings are on 60mm centres ...
... Lack of Trap Points? posted: 3 Dec 2014 22:36 from: Richard_Jones Hi, I've got involved in yet another project!- Not sure yet whether it will turn into a complete layout, but at present it is planned as a diorama from the road overbridge to the end of the platforms.... My question is- shouldn't there be trap points on both the up& down mains at the respective ends of the platforms to prevent over-runs?- Wouldn't that be a basic BoT requirements, ... have trap arrangements. Here for example is Rubery on the Halesowen Railway: RuberyStnfromDownHome.jpg© D J Norton. Image linked from this excellent site: http://www.photobydjnorton.com Cue a space for a catalogue of exceptions: Notice also in this pic the classic arrangement of yard access via a diamond crossing to ensure a trailing access into the yard instead of a facing connection. This is a very common arrangement, although often the the diamond would have a single slip added -- see the single-slip video. Not needed here ...
... (bottom right hand corner) is not yet completed as, in phase 1, this will not be modelled, simply being a fiddle yard beyond the station canopy front. Baseboard shapes are shown in red. Although the yard is not electrified, the two running roads to the left of the image (where they dive into Hove tunnel- another fiddle yard) are and I've been trying to find on the club and other topics how to arrange the timbering to accommodate the conductor rail. I can't remember if they timbers were ... all the basic track layout. null null 1876_191411_190000000.png Full-size image: gallery/1876/original/1876_191411_190000000.png The station throat (bottom right hand corner) is not yet completed as, in phase 1, this will not be modelled, simply being a fiddle yard beyond the station canopy front. Baseboard shapes are shown in red. Although the yard is not electrified, the two running roads to the left of the image (where they dive into Hove tunnel- another fiddle yard) are and I've been trying to find ...
... Middlesex from the 1915 plan, I am planning on modelling the station in 1929 but this was the closest map I could find. Before putting the plan into Templot, I modified it using Paintshop Pro in the following ways:1 Changed the angle of Old Charlton Road (the one in the top left of the picture) to make it more vertical and deleted the bottom two houses north of Station Road, so the houses are now Nos 8, 10, 12 and 14 going from Station Road northwards.2 Deleted at least 3 ... first. I guess I used only the basics of Templot and because I landed up doing a lot of rework, I have probably not done it the most efficient way. I couldn't for example get the move group to work properly so landed up moving my goods yard a template at a time many times as I moved it around the design. The issue that I have at the moment though is that I have managed to print out the background templates on my second attempt- my first produced nothing after 10 hours! but ...
25. Clifton Down
... mine- my retirement 'job', The track plan is finalised and is a direct copy taken from a 1:1250 cadastral. The double track curve at the top is the main line. Clifton Down is a modellers dream. It sits in a bowl with road bridges at either end and buildings- many of which are still there, on the other two sides. The station building is huge and I was fortunate enough to obtain 1:50 detailed drawings. Traffic covered a wide range- a branch line to Severn ... double headed. I have a photograph of a formation of ex LNER teak coaches being hauled by a Castle and a 28XX. Circus and Military trains, composed mainly of Horse boxes, unloaded here en route for the Downs. As you can see, the coal yard is extensive. You can see the potential.... I have never built a layout depicting the post nationalisation era, nor one with diesels, so this will be a first. This plan is drawn in O-XF, but I also have ...
... can do the Templot walk! The photo (which has been 'flipped' horizontally to match the track plan) shows the 3-way as being symmetrical but an asymmetric 3-way with the left-hand leading gives me more room to fit in the coal road (not to mention being easier to build!). I'm working on B7 crossings on both turnouts which give's me a good compromise in the space I have available. Thank you in advance for your generous assistance both here and on YMR! 2849_021659_570000000.jpg 2849_021700_430000000.jpg Edit ... sheep sometimes! Incidentally, I used Anyrail to 'prove' the track plan while leaving plenty of room for hand-building so there's no problem in using, say B8 vee's on the single slip if that makes it any easier on the running lines. In the yard the single turnout (following the 3-way) will be a B6 so hopefully B7's on the 3-way will give me room to manoeuvre. The prototype itself was constricted between the run round loop and the River Ryburn on the other side! Regards ...
... , and I'd prefer a B8 (ish) or something that doesn't require a switched diamond within the slip. I have no idea how to get rid of the pesky curve that makes itself evident whenever I make a branch track. Once I get the straight diverging road set up I think I'll be able to follow the video for diamonds within transitions, and then afterward I'll insert a slip road. To illustrate, this is the general arrangement made with the default curving when using regular common crossings: undefined (image also attached ... ) Quentin Attachment: attach_2316_2909_P4_test_4a.jpg 306 posted: 8 Aug 2016 10:48 from: Martin Wynne Hi Quentin, Welcome to Templot Club. I'm not sure what you are asking for. You seem to have achieved the classic trailing slip crossover connection to a yard, all on a nice gentle curve. It's very likely that most such prototypes would be exactly like that. Which part do you want to be straight? The diverging road of a turnout can never be dead straight, you will always have the switch deflection angle from ...
... only to find that I had to restart it all over again. So help! All I want is an accurate representation of my baseboards and a C+ L 3 way tandem turnout B6/RH B8/LH with an overall length of 670mm on the centre road. Not a lot to ask for I know very best regards, Mark posted: 10 Oct 2009 21:36 from: Phil O Hi Mark Firstly welcome to Templot. This is for version 0.91c To make a background shape such as a baseboard outline click ... this turnout. I only really need the Templot version to be accurate in regards to its overall dimensions and the curvature of the two turnout roads so that I can line up the other turnouts to it. It will control access to part of the station and the yard. The access road in this is the B6/RH one. Do you want to put a B6/RH into a 7' curve Thats exactly it. Joining to this road I need to construct a curved turnout with a B6/RH road so ...
... . What is the difference between 3way and tandem turnouts? I'm sure I've seen this once but couldn't find the topic again to reread it. What suggestions can you make for deciding which turnout settings work together sensibly? All the examples I've seen are for the middle road being the main road. I'm particularly interested in curved turnouts where either of the outer roads are the main road. I haven't been able to work out how to achieve this. Ideally it would be nice to be able to:- Insert a turnout into ... , Any turnout having 3 exits is called a 3-way turnout. They divide into 2 types: 1. three-throw turnouts. In this case both switches are coincident. They are difficult to build and prototypically rare -- used only in sidings and yards, and not at all for many years: 2_280950_180000000.jpg 2. tandem turnouts. In this case the switches are staggered so that the second switch is placed beyond the heel of the first one. They further divide into two types -- more usually with the ...
30. newbie
... . You could increase it by changing template 5 into a Y, which should be shorter as well so that you shouldn't increase the overall length by much, if anything at all. (2) You could also increase it by having the end of the platform road not curving so much; you could even have the release end straight, or have no curve at all. You might have to shorten the run-round loop a tad to avoid lengthening the layout, but would this matter? (3) You could ... I've looked at Alan's modified version as he's tidied up some of the obvious "quirks", but I'm having trouble visualising the plan as a finished layout! Could you perhaps explain a bit more about your thinking behind this? For instance, I think the fiddle yard exit is the track at bottom left, and where does the platform go- is it an island platform? (Is it even intended as a passenger line?) One thing that strikes me immediately, bearing in mind the number of kick-back goods ...
... from: Howard My club has a layout with double track main line and a bay platform (UK based, so left hand running). The bay is reached by a "single slip", but what exactly is a single slip? Suppose the 2 running roads are the Up& Down line, with the Down line furthest away from you. It seems to me there are 3 possibilities 1) Down to Down 2) Down to Bay 3) Bay to Up (via a point on the up line) Since ... from Sheerness could access the down loop platform and return via the up line. The speed limit on the main line at Sittingbourne was 90mph. As for bizarre track formations the GWR were known to have a passing loop at stations on a single line where the goods yard was on the (say) up side of the line, the point leading to it was off the down line and the yard access then crossed the up line with a plain diamond, thus avoiding a facing point. posted: 16 Apr 2012 19: ...
... without there being a conflict. Now, this isn't something that keeps me up at night: I'll be a sole operator and if not I find it hard to believe that this will be a frequent enough conflicting movement to cause problems (seeing as the bottom right road out of the junction is a carriage siding). However, as I've yet to lay track and everything else is ramrod-straight B6's, I thought this might be an interesting opportunity to re-work them if they fit into the rest of the geometry ... is the carriage road. I'll check out your box files when I get home- thank you so much for looking into it for me. While doodling on a napkin I wonder if PL156/PL184 should come off the same turnout as per a 'normal' goods yard- this would reduce the track congestion on the up main (PL153-TL139-TR113-etc.) posted: 13 Nov 2018 15:06 from: John Palmer William Williamson wrote:... the issue was if TR173 (and the turnout ...
... peg', Ctrl F6, to slide the switches along until they are where you want them. At the same time you can remove the unwanted switch and stock rail if its a single blade catch point. In the same way, the switch in the diverging road can be produced by using 'Make branch track', having first changed the turnout to curviform if not already like that. Remembering to change it back afterwards if you want generic. I'm sure Martin has a more elegant way of doing it, but it works ... to share for constructive criticism. Hopefully I've attached the correct file. A few points: The real place is pretty straight through the station but to create sufficient space for the bay platform I have put in a transition curve after the curviform turnout from the mainline The yard is much shorter than in reality for the later yard with just two sidings. It is closer in length to the original yard with 3 sidings where one siding faced in the other (southerly) direction, like a headshunt?, towards the hamlet. The ...
34. Crewkerne LSWR
... , I was interested to see the plan you found of Crewkerne. Yes, built by theL&SWR, opened 19 July 1860, closed to goods 18 April 1966, still open to passengers, line singled May 1967, all traffic now worked over former Up road, which is the side with the main building, by Sir William Tite, still extant. A 160ft/inch plan, dated 1950, extracted from an official BR(S) 40ft/in plan, appears in the book "An Historical Survey of ... Pryer and G.J. Bowring, pub O.P.C. 1980. Other volumes never appeared and the (Vol 1) suffix was dropped on more recent re-printings. Your plan does not appear to be that much earlier, because the book mentions: "The goods yard was quite large...diagram does not do it justice as there had been some simplification prior to 1950. In the 1930s it was one of the last strongholds of the shunting horse, the layout containing several wagon turntables. The complicated tangle of pointwork near the ...
... , will be making a double slip work at a 1:10 angle... posted: 20 Dec 2007 02:44 from: Gordon S Thanks for that Paul. Somehow I thought that 1:10 slip would have a larger radius on the slip roads and therefore allow long wheelbase locos such as 9F's to run through more easily. From your comment, I assume there is more to it than I first thought.... posted: 20 Dec 2007 02:54 from: Paul Boyd Somehow I thought ... all these problems? Is there no other way of adapting turnouts/diamonds to work/look better with out changing the 16.5 gauge? I Think after reading your comments on DOGA fine that wouldn't be an option either as I'm untilising old peco turnouts in the fiddle yards, Plus if I had to change BTBs I'd go EM/P4. Dave posted: 1 Jan 2008 04:29 from: Martin Wynne Peter Salathiel wrote: For some reason, and I'm thinking of a mainline double junction, I was under the impression ...
... . 5. You can now save this switch blade template and give it a suitable name. 6. You can now follow the guide instructions from 3.0005.1 onwards for all four switch blades, using the one you just stored and saved, and then add the slip roads as described later in the guide. style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f8fcff" I'm sorry it's a little late now, but if you need further instructions, post a message, and I will try and help you tomorrow afternoon when I get home ... increase to 19' 6" points (which seem to be a standard switch length on newer stuff). I also have UP plans for a #10 turnout using 29' 11" switchpoints, but thats for a mainline switch and this is just for a yard entry switch just after leaving the main. So I think Ill go for 19' 6" points. If someone is interested the UP drawings can be found here, though the points are not hinged. http://www.uprr.com/aboutup/operations/ ...
... NLS but can't for the lif of me fathom how to locate the exact map I need form NLS. Whilst it seems wonderful and has the map I want, I can't locate it again! I'm after the West London Line from Kensington High Street to the Cromwell Road/A4 bridge to the south on the 25" to the mile series, post-1945. It seems to stretch over 2 maps what I need, but as I said, I can't fathom it out at all. I have the attention span of ... Attachment: attach_3140_3758_temp_map.pdf 35 Last edited on 7 Sep 2020 08:29 by roythebus posted: 7 Sep 2020 08:32 from: roythebus It would be interesting to see the plan for High Street in Templot 00sf as well, tunnels at each end, switchback goods yard ..a good replacement for Minories? posted: 7 Sep 2020 16:41 from: Martin Wynne Hi Roy, Well that was interesting. The 1952 map is available at 1:1250 scale, so I decided to capture it at zoom level 20 to get ...
... nded_engine_shed_plus.box 288 posted: 3 Jan 2012 17:14 from: wcampbell23 Have you considered replacing the slip with two separate turnouts? This would not greatly affect the run-round loop and give you more flexibility for the release crossover. At the end of the platform road you could maximise the space for a loco by installing a minimal buffer stop such as this one at Bodmin General: 54_031213_080000000.jpg Regards Bill Campbell. Last edited on 3 Jan 2012 17:16 by wcampbell23 posted: 3 Jan 2012 17:36 from: RedgateModels ... the "headshunt". I've attached both .box files, the "plus" one is the one that will mean extending beyond the current baseboard edge So, do I knock a hole in the sidescene and have say a 12" bolt on single track "fiddle yard" and have the prettier track arrangement? I'd have to hide the exit with trees or somesuch scenic device, or maybe resite the signal box to the other side of the tracks. Or is it just too contrived and would make the layout more awkward to ...
... Dave Attachment: attach_240_351_wolverhampton_steel __08_03_03_0916_03.box 275 posted: 3 Mar 2008 14:26 from: davelong I forgot to add also the section at the bottom will be a traverser fiddle yard and the wing rails either side will be additional storage that can join up to a traverser road, as the the traverser will only be 3 or 4 roads wide due to space. Dave posted: 4 Mar 2008 16:10 from: davelong Anyone had a chance to check my plan re: timbering? Dave posted: 5 Mar 2008 03: ... so I'm going to try and merge code 82 and 75 rails hopefully seemlessly. Thanks for looking Dave Attachment: attach_240_351_wolverhampton_steel __08_03_03_0916_03.box 275 posted: 3 Mar 2008 14:26 from: davelong I forgot to add also the section at the bottom will be a traverser fiddle yard and the wing rails either side will be additional storage that can join up to a traverser road, as the the traverser will only be 3 or 4 roads wide due to space. Dave posted: 4 Mar 2008 16:10 from: davelong Anyone had ...
... so I may use it as the basis of the video. regards, Martin. posted: 15 Jan 2015 11:49 from: Martin Wynne p.s. A further thought for all -- how does a double-track goods shed work? i.e. with road access on one side only. Presumably there must be sufficient spacing between the tracks for a narrow platform, with a movable bridge over the track to the main platform? As far as I can see having double-track at only 6ft-way (as ... trying to explain... 2787_271914_510000000.png So apologies for this. So far as the goods shed is concerned I'll try putting a couple of straight tracks in and then see if I can get them connected up at either end, Andrew Attachment: attach_2027_2601_Yeovil-F -Yard-crossing-started.box 325 posted: 13 Jan 2015 18:44 from: Andrew Duncan Martin Another question regarding the way of joining up two pieces of track and getting everything aligned correctly. In the goods yard referred to above, I've now inserted a short ...
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