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... -- the 1:8 limit for fixed K-crossings applies only to straight diamonds): 2_141144_570000000.png If you add from file... this file to your own plan you will see it matches quite well. Over to you to add the upper slip road -- just follow the slip tutorial and ignore the curving. edit: Slip road added. File is now attached to my next post below. p.s. you omitted to upload the .bmp map image file. The .bgs file contains only the picture shape container ... : 1078 Help need with final part of stage 1 posted: 14 Mar 2010 12:00 from: Mark Leigh Hi Folks, As a way to introduce myself to the Planning Portal Mapping facility used by Templot i have produced this Templot of Tonbridge Station/ West Yard. Although very much still a "work in progress" i'm stuck on the last piece of this Jig-saw I've highlighted this in orange on the .box file (the files quite big) Any ideas as to how to construct this piece of P& ...
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... or 6 times to get my head round it but finally gave up) Attachment: attach_1548_2121_Diamond_single_sl ip.box 283 posted: 11 Dec 2012 21:07 from: Martin Wynne Hi Ron, Welcome to Templot Club. Here you go, file attached below: 2_111604_000000000.png The slip road radius is 15796mm. Can you say which bit you were stumbling over? I can then add extra explanation. regards, Martin. Important: Before this topic develops further I wish to draw attention to paragraph 6 of the terms of use for Templot: http ... on the screen. This diamond is likely to be my winter's work, so I won't be an intensive user of what I can see is a fantastic resource that really does deserve more of my time to learn- but can't have it because the rest of the yard needs to be built! Does any reader have the time to complete the attached drawing for me? The slip needs to be about 12192mm radius. Thanks, Ron Mitchell (v. confused, tried 5 or 6 times to get my head round it but ...
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... be at least another year before we see it! I hope that they hurry up because my new train room is finished (well almost finished) and work is in progress on the fiddle yard, a 7' 6" three track turntable with three additional storage roads leading from one of the movable roads. This is all concealed track using code 148 FB rail. The sceniced part will be in code 124 BH and I will need several curved turnouts. Some will have to be hand laid but I am lazy and if ... turnouts. If it follows the example set by their double slip it will be at least another year before we see it! I hope that they hurry up because my new train room is finished (well almost finished) and work is in progress on the fiddle yard, a 7' 6" three track turntable with three additional storage roads leading from one of the movable roads. This is all concealed track using code 148 FB rail. The sceniced part will be in code 124 BH and I will need several curved turnouts ...
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... messing about with a design for a layout based on the Caledonian in pre-Grouping times (mentioned in Scott's "Spare Room" thread). The basic shape will be an ellipse and the radii will be quite tight, so to keep the radii of crossover roads between double track to an acceptable minimum, it will be necessary to use crossing angles in the 1:9+ range. In one crossing, there could be a single slip and that should have a switched diamond with an angle of 1:9 through ... on new, complex installations and I don't think my proposed layout could be considered as such :-) Unfortunately, the slip will be in a fairly critical situation as part of a trailing crossover with the straight road of the slip being the lead into the goods yard. So a typical operation would be reversing wagons across it- probably the ideal situation for vehicles to take the wrong road. I dare say I could use the trick of raising the check rails at the "K" crossings to extend the checking effect of ...
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... may be more appropriate. The junction+ goods yard turnout may be a good idea, though would it be challenging enough to test locos? Next would be the engine shed area. Compression of length would be needed, do I model it as historic (single road) or copy the double road engine shed, if so do I copy the turnout as it is with the double trap/catch points or fit in a double slip with a short head shunt? Thoughts and ideas would be very welcome Attachment: attach_2178_2794_Bodmin_general.bo x ... the 30's. I don't think I have got the map up to 4 mm scale but just appx to size, and a bit of compression may be required. I have just used B6 turnouts, where other sizes may be more appropriate. The junction+ goods yard turnout may be a good idea, though would it be challenging enough to test locos? Next would be the engine shed area. Compression of length would be needed, do I model it as historic (single road) or copy the double road engine shed ...
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... crossings, and the timber counts between them, to match the photo. And also to use standard crossing angles, rather than odd as-calculated angles. The length of 36" radius section is very short, and it's clear from the photo that the inner road is very tightly curved and a bit dog-legged. No doubt there was some gauge-widening to get large locos round it into the shed. However I have had another go. I pulled the 1:5.5 crossing back about a foot, and ... me on the 102" radius curve. I'm not aware of changing it from anything else. The regulations require a continuous check rail on curves below 10 chains radius (104" in 4mm/ft) on running lines, but there is no such requirement for yards and sidings. It would depend on the frequency of derailments. I can't see any continuous check rails in the photo. File below. cheers, Martin. Attachment: attach_3107_3685_kyle_tandem_modif ied.box 80 posted: 3 Jul 2020 08:17 from: Julian Roberts 3591_030315_380000000.png posted ...
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... Sep 2020 21:26 from: Julian Roberts Have I done something stupid? I'm looking at the ends of the sleepers on this turnout. I hope to attach a picture now or soon. The mainline sleepering goes in steps on this turnout, while the turnout road goes smoothly. Normally it's the other way round. I've got this far, sleepers stuck down to template, before noticing it's odd. Have I somehow made a RH turnout on a left hand bend instead of a LH turnout? Or is this how it's ... equalized-incremental timbering style. Ends-in-line is the norm with the square-on timbering style. Templot sets these for you when you change the style. In practice, although plain track sleepers are usually neatly aligned, in turnouts (especially in yards and sidings) the timber ends can sometimes be all over the place. Templot has a randomizing function to create that, real> timbering> timbering data... 2_050721_060000000.png Try setting the end-randomizing to 3 or 4 inches. Then hold down the ...
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... room for a run round loop for the branch on the branch platform if you want one. (b) If you follow (a ), you can then reverse direction for the exchange sidings, so that they're fed off the branch platform, or its loop road if you have one. This means they're facing the right direction for collecting by goods trains which are heading for Exeter. (a) and (b) together would I think simplify the layout while making operation easier. (c) you probably then have ... ex GWR mainline between Plymouth and Newton Abbot. The station will also be the junction for a small branch which primarily is used to transport china clay from South Dartmoor. This means there will be exchange sidings and a bay platform as well as the usual small goods yard. For more details please see my RMWeb thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f =66&t =39922 This is the second draft, modified after comments on RMWeb. Please note I have not shoved any timbers yet and ...
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... - something akin to the goods warehouse at Birmingham Lawley Street I mean? Mike posted: 27 Apr 2020 18:55 from: Phil O Mike, I think most of it would be determined by what sort of locos are likely to be using it, reception roads are likely to be around 7 chains if eight coupled engines are used, 4 or 5 chains for six coupled tanks down to 2 chains for smaller locos. My latest shunting plank has one siding which is 2 chains and restricted to 1361 saddle tanks the rest ... topic: 3640 GWR or LMS goods yards posted: 27 Apr 2020 16:49 from: Mike Kynaston Any ideas during the Big Four period what kind of size pointwork the GWR or LMS would have used in their goods yards- something akin to the goods warehouse at Birmingham Lawley Street I mean? Mike posted: 27 Apr 2020 18:55 from: Phil O Mike, I think most of it would be determined by what sort of locos are likely to be using it, reception roads are likely to be around ...
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... excellent (written) tutorial and succeeded in making templates for #7 and #8 single slips in 00-SF using GWR B-7 and B-8 crossings in Templot 91a. However, on the slip side of the crossing the elbows impinge the slip road. How do I correct this? I have read the Help Notes re: fixed and loose diamonds but have no idea as to how to fix the problem and am puzzling over the dialog box: real> Kcrossing options> Kcrossing check rails. I have ... away from them (or both), or alternatively change to a switch-diamond (movable K-crossings). The latter would look odd and non-prototypical on slips of 1:8 or shorter, but may be the best option in a fiddle yard. Flattening the switch curve is done by using shorter switches in the slip, i.e. for the 1:7 slip use the slip switch intended for 1:6 slip, for the 1:8 slip use the slip switch intended for 1:6 ...
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... you can see how much shorter is the 00-SF version: 00sf_em_slips6.png Both are 1:6, using the 1:24 slip switches (i.e. deflection the same as a 9ft or "A" switch). But the EM version has a slip road radius of 60", whereas for 00-SF it's down to 48". In EM I reduced the K-crossing check rail length to 120", with the flare length reduced to 30". I also reduced the flangeway end gap to only ... isn't room for both switch blades to be open at the same time between the wing rail fronts. All 4 blades at each end must move in unison. That's correct prototype practice when the slip is worked from a signal box. Sometimes with hand levers in a yard the slip switches can be worked independently, but that won't be possible with this design. Some care will be needed to set the open blade positions to clear flanges both sides. The 082d .box file is attached below, for 00-SF gauge (the ...
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... layout in templot posted: 26 Mar 2015 21:38 from: madscientist Hi folks. I wonder if I could pick your experienced brains I've my initial layout design of Claremorris station in Ireland, based on the the trackwork 1960 -2000, this is a 5 road single track junction with about 35 points( excluding fiddle yards etc) I'll be doing the point work in copperclad, as I've a good bit of experience of it and I'm using OO -SF. Plan track will be Smp or C&L /exactoscale ... The base layout was built up,in trax3 to get a feel for the space needed and the compromises etc. Now that I basically comfortable with Templot. I intend to lay the whole of the visual trackwork up in templot. Questions( a) should I start by laying out all the plain track in Templot( 6 parallel roads, a diverging twin track throat etc) and then" insert" the crossovers and other turnouts. Or( b) start with the central track work and proceed to work left and right ...
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... of the liveliest we have had. Ten members were present and among matters discussed were........ A most interesting development was then described by Martin Wynne. Neville Fairbairn had asked Martin for help in setting out a turnout from a curved road. From this request Martin had gone on to devise a system for enabling any turnout to be drawn out on 1mm graph paper by even the most inexperienced. Given the radius of the main line, the crossing angle and switch type, Martin can supply the ... run. I would encourage you to keep this near the top of the list preferably with transitions into the curves. This means that there are several things preceding this one but getting something running is usually a key objective for most of us. Up and down some yard lengths is ok but to get something run in is so much better on an oval. Just some thoughts Best wishes Peter posted: 29 Jan 2018 21:07 from: Martin Wynne PRChappell wrote: Double track oval with passing loop and siding( like a ...
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... writing it. Over to you? regards, Martin. posted: 4 Oct 2008 20:50 from: davelong They're truely stunning photos, does the book say where they were intended for? That set obviously for a storage yard seems to have atleast 25 diverging roads. Dave posted: 5 Oct 2008 02:10 from: Jim Guthrie davelong wrote: They're truely stunning photos, does the book say where they were intended for? That set obviously for a storage yard seems to have atleast 25 diverging roads. Dave It's ... "Tramplot" it won't be me writing it. Over to you? regards, Martin. posted: 4 Oct 2008 20:50 from: davelong They're truely stunning photos, does the book say where they were intended for? That set obviously for a storage yard seems to have atleast 25 diverging roads. Dave posted: 5 Oct 2008 02:10 from: Jim Guthrie davelong wrote: They're truely stunning photos, does the book say where they were intended for? That set obviously for a storage yard seems to have ...
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... have just received an interesting document from Dave Harris, the co-ordinator of the Midland Railway Study Centre at Derby. The document is dated 17 December 1917 and deals with relaying M.R. track. The first sentence reads: "In future when laying in new road or adjusting the position of the rails and sleepers in an existing road, please arrange to have the rails placed in the chairs to the spacing shown on the attached diagrams." These diagrams show the sleeper spacings for the various rail lengths and weights introduced by ... not agree with the photographic evidence at Hawes because all the sleeper spacings are the same except those either side of the rail joint. The 1876 inspection report on the Settle and Carlisle line describes the (unimproved) S& C permanent way as 80 lbs per lineal yard with chairs weighing 40 lbs each. The average distance between the sleepers is 3 ft except for those next to the rail joint, which are 2 ft 6 ins apart. S.W. Johnson's presidential address to the I.M.E. in 1898 states that both the standard ...
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... , I thought I would have a go. Well done so far. The Tandem needed several changes to it to make it work, the main one being that the two turnouts were set at differing radii so would not line up. The curvature of the inner road was very tight. I have managed to ease this slightly. The next stage was to place the third crossing at the intersection of the two rails where the notch should be if it loads as saved. This was not an easy task as the radius changes ... passing loop each side (one to clear a 190mm wide island platform, from which I can develop the rest of the station- based on St. Agnes on the GWR Newquay branch; the second at running line/siding spacing from which to develop the fiddle yard). I know that later, when I need to insert the catch points and the double slip, I will have to face "partial templates", the mention of which has always sent shivers down my spine. Many thanks, Andrew Howlett posted: ...
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... 08 from: Tony W Hi Panos. I would try to link the two ends with a piece of plain track and get the alignment right first and then insert a turnout into it, after which you can play around with the handedness and curvature of the diverging road by altering the turnout type. Regards Tony. posted: 16 Apr 2017 12:20 from: DerekStuart I agree with Tony. I think you will need to end up with the turnout further down the 'bottom right' of the screen and a far more ... on the prototype track plans studying carefully the specifications of these turnouts. Despite the fact that every solution-suggestion you made is utterly correct in terms of geometry and operation I made the desicion to follow the prototype cause it does reflect the necessity of the time the yard was built. After all it is not a main line but a local sorting yard with speed restrictions. That mean that trains pass trhrough these points with no more than 15mph. The complex crossing track area at the right of the layout it also made Further ...
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... though. Having started to get to grips with Templot I have produced the attached plan. I have yet to complete one end of the fiddle yard where the Cannock lines rejoin the main lines. The fiddle yard is very simple, but with the length of each road I could fit around six long scale length trains on each road, so with a few shorter trains there should be plenty of storage space without the need to construct too many turnouts. Attachment: attach_455_696_Rugeley.box 375 posted: 16 Jan 2009 14:03 from: ... I found it took a much larger distance to contain all the trackwork- it'll be worth it for a more realistic appearance though. Having started to get to grips with Templot I have produced the attached plan. I have yet to complete one end of the fiddle yard where the Cannock lines rejoin the main lines. The fiddle yard is very simple, but with the length of each road I could fit around six long scale length trains on each road, so with a few shorter trains there should be plenty of storage space ...
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... 8 part of the tandem to B-8.75 you can have a regular 1:7 curved single slip making a good fit. I think this would be a lot more prototypical than the irregular slip (and you then get a slightly easier radius in the slip road). It means moving the B-7 turnout about 35mm to the left, so I don't know how that would fit -- there is room to the next turnout (just) but you may have a board joint there. If you are tight ... . Attachment: attach_576_877_slattocks_junction _09_06_20_2115_18.box 413 posted: 23 Jun 2009 12:18 from: Andy G And now the slip in context. The slip needs to allow movements from the up main (lower track) to the down main. The tandem is in the goods yard and the turnout with no timbers is part of the double junction. Attachment: attach_577_877_Slattocks_Slip_Area .box 393 posted: 23 Jun 2009 12:19 from: Andy G And now just the slip templates. Thanks for this help Martin. Regards Andy Attachment: attach_578_877_Slattocks_Slip.box 357 ...
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... from: John Lewis What is the point of the lump of wood at the end of the catch point switch rail here, please: 084-084 Catch Points, Automatic Protecting South Croydon Junction from Down Oxted Line It is interesting to see the footbridge of Selsdon Road station in the distance. 085-085 Trap Points on Interlaced Track, Single Line. Could this be near Mitcham on the W. Croydon- Wimbledon line? It is now part of Tramlink and still has interlaced track. 090-090 Norwood Fork Junction ... be a need for at least one worked switch. Surely it would have been cheaper to simply work the catch points and save the expense of all the extra track. Hi Allan, A lot of these apparently odd track arrangements can be explained by the 350-yard limit on the length of a rodding run. This arrangement was almost certainly cheaper than building and staffing an additional signal box. regards, Martin. posted: 2 Mar 2010 23:09 from: John Lewis Martin wrote:> A lot of these apparently ...
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