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... the spacing of the crossing chairs and timbering. See: 2_290827_170000000.png The general guidelines are: 1. where the diverging track is part of a crossover, or leads to a loop or lay-by siding or other track running generally parallel to or alongside the main road -- always* use a regular (or generic) V-crossing. If there is no connected pointwork you may prefer to use a parallel type V-crossing instead. 2. where the diverging track needs to curve away from the main road, ... example in a double-junction or in yards -- then you should consider the main road curving: 2a. if there is contraflexure (negative curving radius) you will almost always* want to use a curviform V-crossing. Otherwise you will get an unsightly reverse curve in the vee splice rail between the crossing and the TVJP vee joint position. I see this often in posted screenshots on other forums where the default regular V-crossings have been used for everything. But NOT if 1. above applies. This ...
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... great addition to Templot. I noticed you had a check in place if the turnout was a very short so defining what is 'sensible' at the other end of the scale would be good as you suggest. I am in agreement with your reply concerning the exit road turnout length 'issue' raised by John, it would be good if that could be reset with the other derived settings. You may not believe this but I don't think I have ever used F5. I use the menu settings for crossing angle and switch type ... available, unless you were prepared to draw up your own bespoke templates. I think that there were only a few prepared to do that, I certainly can't recall any layouts with bespoke trackwork prior to Templot. I did a few items of bespoke trackwork in fiddle yards by trial and error, I can't claim that said items had any prototypical fidelity. I can't thank Martin enough for what he has provided us with, if he does no more he has provided us with a magnificent tool. Phil posted: 18 Jan 2018 ...
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... some room at either end to move a loco or stock between loops, but it does not look very nice. I have got this far by shuffling points back and forth along the curves. Is there any way to easily optimise the design to make the storage roads look tidier? What is the best way to align two roads when they are coming from points at opposite ends of loops? Minimum radius is 4 ft (1220mm), but I would use a larger radius or an intervening straight on any reverse curves. ... which I think is 1838mm radius left and right from the centre line? Any comments or suggestions? Thanks for your help Arthur Attachment: attach_2098_2662_storage_sidings_2 9March15.box 222 posted: 29 Mar 2015 16:05 from: Rob Manchester Hello Arthur, Have you considered a traverser fiddle yard? Maybe one split into two sections lengthwise. I have seen them work quite well and it is all plain track rather than turnouts. Rob posted: 29 Mar 2015 16:42 from: LSWRArt Hi Rob, I have got casettes at the moment and ...
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... my lifetime (! ), with some of the complex pointwork beloved of the old GER, including several slips. Designing a double slip on a reverse curve was fun....I'm convinced on close examination it's got an almost imperceptible kink in one of the slip roads, but then so has platform 8 at New Street so what the hell.... The one that has stumped me is an apparently straightforward diamond crossing. I can see how the half-diamonds derived from turnouts are good for crossovers/ ladders and ... associated slips, but it strikes me that diamonds also arise naturally as the intersection of two tracks with no mathematical relationship, and the turnout derivation didn't seem to work for me. This was the case with the one I wanted- two intersecting sidings in the yard (so no elaborate transitions- in fact one road is curved and the other straight). To get the K-crossings more or less superimposed on the two lines wasn't too difficult, but the V-crossings have defeated me. Perhaps this is because of ...
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... use flat bottom rail are the rails compatable or would I need to make custom joiners or even solder the rail ends together? posted: 18 Dec 2016 23:03 from: Tony W I have seen both Flatbottom and Bullhead rail used for ash pit/ inspection roads. Bullhead would be more typical in steam days, however the supporting way-beam would be made of timber in the same fashion as on bridge decks using bridge chairs, but set into the brickwork so that the inner edge of the way-beam is ... to chairs that are bolted to metal beams or flat bottom rail bolted directly to the supporting beams? I haven't decided yet whether ill model an old BR shed or a preserved steam shed, would there be differences? also the same questions regarding turntables. the main yard area will be constructed from bullhead rail using c&l chairs, if the pits use flat bottom rail are the rails compatable or would I need to make custom joiners or even solder the rail ends together? posted: 18 Dec 2016 23:03 from ...
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... ? I recall 'Up' being to London, so i think the WCML was Down/Up Slow, Down/Up Fast around the Stafford area, which is what I am modelling. Does the 11'2" measure apply through platforms as well? I appreciate adjacent roads will be further apart because of the platform width. Cheers Richie posted: 5 Oct 2017 17:01 from: Phil O I have just had a look at Google Maps and got a satellite view screen shot of a section of WCML, just South of ... ) on the scenic section to replicate a small part of the electrified WCML in the 1990s. While emailing Colin he mentioned that a things such as interlaced sleepers are a big no-no for concrete sleeped track, which brings me to my question. Hidden fiddle yard track will be copperclad so it doesn't really matter what standard i use for that I guess! How can I get Templot to model the layout and produce the templates based around Code 83 flat bottomed rail on concrete sleepers? What do I need to changed, ...
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... 22:21 from: renluethi Hello Templot artists, To my shame, I have to admit that I still have difficulties to do a 3-Way Tandem. I would be deeply grateful if somebody could help me with the attached 3-Way turnout. The road to the left is part of a Yard-ladder and is fixed. Corrections could be made with the road to the right. This road may be slide along as well as have a changed V-crossing angel, both in certain bounds however. Regards ... . Attachment: attach_1750_2403_ash-track_3_Way_no_ties.box 274 posted: 11 Feb 2014 11:49 from: Martin Wynne Hi Rene, Good to hear from you. You have made the classic mistake of having the two switches too close together. There is no room to open the points on the second switch. If you change the RH turnout from a SC-8 to a shorter SB-7, you can snake the turnouts further apart and still match closely your original RH exit (your original in brown): 2_110645_220000000.png For some recent ...
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... siding like at Saltley which trains are reversed into via the loop. Their are also Walsall Stadium sidings which are accessed by reversing the train around in the loop (half relief towards fiddle yard)& then running into the sidings via a loop which goes under a road bridge to Walsall sidings fiddle yard. The layout has 3 fiddle yards which are able to hold a 4 car voyager or loco& wagons. The design of the layout is so it is fairly compact but prototypical& fun to operate within a fairly compact space ... them pointing in the right direction. So on the layout their is a scrap siding like at Saltley which trains are reversed into via the loop. Their are also Walsall Stadium sidings which are accessed by reversing the train around in the loop (half relief towards fiddle yard)& then running into the sidings via a loop which goes under a road bridge to Walsall sidings fiddle yard. The layout has 3 fiddle yards which are able to hold a 4 car voyager or loco& wagons. The design of the layout is so ...
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... planned to slowly fade the raised loading dock out into slightly over grown greenery with a few more trees and a small water tower. I am however open to ideas and suggestions as it's in the early stages of design/development! In regards to the second storage road, I did originally plan it like this but felt like it removed to much of the depth I was trying to create, which is enough of a challenge as it is in 7mm, and unfortunately I can't really make the baseboards any deeper. I was ... towards the traverser, or have a staggered scenic break between the two tracks posted: 4 May 2017 13:21 from: Nigel Brown Just as a matter of interest, what sort of scene are you thinking of portraying? Looks to me like a small industrial yard or maybe a small dock. Only thought is that if you brought the scenic break beyond the double track forwards a bit you might be able to squeeze in a second storage track. But maybe that's squeezing in too much. posted: 5 May 2017 00 ...
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... other exit going into the red. Built another point and that worked out fine other than main line radius looks a bit tight. In reality I think my crossover will be on a starting radius of 400' (63") which would keep the other exit road shallower! On the basis that curving the point does not extend the length too much (re SMP points) would I be better advised to go for a 9 of 10 crossiong angle? Any advice welcomed please John posted: 6 Apr 2008 16:45 ... purely Templot's best guess at a sensible warning limit for each gauge. You can change it to whatever is appropriate for your actual circumstances by clicking the change... button below it. This setting is specific to each template. Obviously when working in a goods yard you would want to allow a smaller radius than on a fast running line. For private industrial sidings you might set an even smaller limit. But in any event it is only a warning, having the warning showing red doesn't affect anything else you do in ...
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... first glance that all your Y-turnouts could be easily achieved with ordinary negative curving (contraflexure). You already have some such turnouts, such as the one leading to the turntable. All you need to do is insert a turnout in whichever of the two roads of the Y is the main route, and then adjust it with F5 and F6 mouse actions until it matches the required diverging route. Be sure to change the V-crossing type to curviform. Achieving a perfectly symmetrical split-deflection Y-turnout is ... the one on the right of the top image. It is a little more subtle, [From the switchpoint end] the RH track is 45.1" radius and the LH track is 274" radius. 632_010054_070000000.png And for reference, the layout on the town/yard side, so it all fits together 632_010055_580000000.png This has taken a couple of days but I am happy with it. I even followed Martins turntable videos to do the turntable. But I digress.... The whole point of this thread was to ask ...
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... I did, didn't I?!?! [footnote] A quick and dirty single slip:- Start with a straight turnout. Tools> Make diamond crossing Ctrl-V to copy to background Template> Convert half-diamond to turnout Tools> Make slip road F6 (Curving) curve slip road so it meets the exit track. Ctrl-V to paste to background Not elegant, but good enough to build from (even if it does only have one switch!) Paul Boyd http://www.paul- ... timbered single junctions (by the way thank you for pointing out that the NER described them as single junctions rather than sets of points or turnouts). I have over three hundred photos of Leyburn station dated from 1877 to the 1980s when the track in the goods yard was lifted. It is not always easy on to see on the photos whether the single junctions were sleepered or timbered, but the photos that are clear all show sleepered single junctions. There does not appear to have been a timbered single junction anywhere at Leyburn ...
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... hand turnout within the second part of the crossover, and why was it not a slip? looking at the map in the book it shows a wagon turntable and presumably a wagon lift to ground level The idea is to possibly make a small diorama, with the road bridge being slightly left of centre and perhaps the road being slightly more angled left to right One question is how far from the outside rail would the viaduct wall be Attachment: attach_3190_3828_New_St_Martins_St reet_EM.mecbox 80 Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also ... GER branches across most of it :-) Cheers Paul posted: 4 Dec 2020 22:08 from: Rob Manchester John, Iain Rice was an East End boy and there are quite a few pics of the area in his many books and articles from goods yards to 'jazz' trains. Rob posted: 5 Dec 2020 12:20 from: Hayfield Paul Willis wrote: Hayfield wrote: As it happens the goods depot would also make an interesting model, not shown on this map but in a map within the book ...
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174. Long Lane
... posted: 16 Nov 2008 02:16 from: davelong Hi Paul Thanks for the comments. I'm struggling to remember Tetley mills, I know it was very atmospheric. I'm hoping for having the viewer bend down slightly to view the canal below the railway bridges and road bridge. I hoping to have a fairly ornate brick bridge for the road, and making use of plastruct girder sections for the railway bridges, but I want to be able to look under the bridges and have your eyes follow the towpath along the side of ... of the B6s which are down at 31.7" but I'm happy to live with that after all its a micro layout. Only the odd parcel van or CCT will have bogies but should be fine. There is plenty of scope for shunting with the use of fiddle yards both sides. With only the track at the top right not going off stage. The canal will flow front to back under the tracks with several holes in the upper level for light to shine down to the canal level. Where the canal meets the backscene ...
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... ://www.localhistory.co.uk/la/cats/cat69.htm there is an item in the Cornwall section: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Bodmin Road to Bodmin Railway GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY. CORNWALL RAILWAY. BODMIN BRANCH 2 CHAIN SURVEY 1904. M 274 to M 280. Containing sheets Nos. 1-2 inclusive and with 2 sheets not numbered. 4 hand-coloured lithograph printed sheets, each sheet mounted ... I have attempted to attach, below.Two chains to the inch is (2 x 22 x 3 x 12) which gives a scale of 1:1584. Double check that: 2 chains is one fortieth of a mile -> thus (1760/ 40) yards and thus (36/ 40) x 1760 inches... 1:1584. Note the price of the set of plans.... As this is an old list, perhaps it would be possible to contact the buyer, via Mr Aitchison ...
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... also be rather a challenge to model. A note added by a viewer: "This photograph shows Castle Junction at the east end of Newcastle Central before the 1904 Tynemouth electrification, and prior to the installation of the manganese steel switch and crossing work. Note the road from platform 1 to the High Level- this connection was removed in 1904 as it could have caused problems for electric sets starting from the platforms due to insufficient lengths of conductor rail being available." Regards, Rodney -- -- -- -- ... the big 'put off' was the thought of having to rechassis a number of Pacifics! So I came back to handbuilt 2mm track with Code 40 rail, which I think will look just a good- it also means that Peco can be used in the fiddle yards for quickness! I'll do have a look at the diamond-crossings thread and I am sure I will join those in eagerly awaiting your next instalment! Richie posted: 20 Apr 2019 23:21 from: Richie Kynaston Chaps, Just to confirm, I've ...
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... hand side. And if I'm not mistaken...Class 46 approaching! Ian Hi Ian. Class 45 or 46, not possible to tell at that distance. As for the Catch point, there would undoubtedly have been another one in the Stock rail of other turnout road but it is hidden by the building. Tony. Last edited on 10 Feb 2012 21:57 by Tony W Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Share ... Mike Waldron wrote: n a very different theme- were 3-way points used on mainlines generally? or were they reserved for space saving around sidings and MPDs? Mike Three-way (or three throw) turnouts were never found on main running lines (yards only) but tandem turnouts were quite common on main lines. Alan Last edited on 10 Feb 2012 15:42 by Alan Turner posted: 10 Feb 2012 15:53 from: Ian Allen Apologies, Alan is correct, I should have said tandem turnouts ...
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178. Kingsbere
... and the main line. In real life it would have been possible to interlock the point to the works siding so that this could not be reversed when the signals to enter or leave the station were pulled off, but you still need to protect the straight on road from the loop by a catch point, roughly opposite the beginning of the X crossing. Is there a tutorial showing how to add a single bladed catch point within a turnout? (In effect I need to make the point to the works siding 3- ... a sand drag or a short "blind siding". What was used in any given situation varied according to company practice and over time. Single bladed traps seem to have been favoured in cramped situations and were sometimes incorporated into the last turnout before leaving a goods yard if space was tight. There was so much variation that it would be difficult to say you were wrong which ever variant you choose. Tony. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. ...
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... near a small goods yard. I want to have a long term layout which I can exhibit& also set up in my attic& sit back& watch the trains go by. I think that plan can be stretched so I can have a 4 or 6 road fiddle at the back& watch my Black 5s roll by. Simon. posted: 29 May 2008 18:24 from: class76 Well I finally have it going& on first thoughts even though a bit scary at first the tutorials are great& it's easy ... I am going to have a bash at designing it& possibly building the layout in P4. This link shows you the plan I wish to build topic 247 it's the plan which is the basic thru station with viaduct& large mass of pointwork near a small goods yard. I want to have a long term layout which I can exhibit& also set up in my attic& sit back& watch the trains go by. I think that plan can be stretched so I can have a 4 or 6 road fiddle at the ...
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... a 4 chain-ish constant radius curve, I thought I'd see how to deal with a crossover. I can add the check rails I want by extending check and wing rails on the turnout side of a turnout, and adding continuous check rails on the main road using Martin's method, using a bit of imagination to 'gap' the flangeway at the wing rails. What I can't see is how to 'check' the closure rail on the turnout side. I've attached the box file just in case! Thanks. Phil PS ... quite often found within station limits, but it would be very unusual to have such sharp curves on running lines in open country. An A4 turnout has a radius of 130ft, which is less than 2 chains. That would be regarded as acceptable in a goods yard, but only for short 4-coupled shunting locos. Industrial turnouts can go down to 1:2 angle, with a radius of only 40ft, i.e. well below 1 chain radius. But only the smallest shunting locos (or horses?) would ...
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