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1. Auldbar Road
... additional blades however I'd much rather it was done as a proper template. It's in 00-D0GAF- double '00' gauge fine. Many thanks, Bob Reid Attachment: attach_532_768_Auldbar-Road-Yard-Turnout.jpg 301 Last edited on 23 Mar 2009 14:31 by Bob Reid posted: 23 Mar 2009 18:27 from: Phil O Hi Bob ... topic: 768 Auldbar Road posted: 21 Mar 2009 12:10 from: Bob Reid Before plunging in at the deep end and trying to draw it up on Templot (in 4mm '00' D0GA Fine), can anyone help me try and understand what the arrangement and prototypical layout of this trailing connection to the Goods Yard at Auldbar Road on ... Arbroath and Forfar would have looked like (prior to it being remodelled)? See this topic on RMweb http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f =88&t =40862 Many thanks Bob Reid posted: 23 Mar 2009 14:30 from: Bob Reid I've fortunately managed to track down a good clear photo of this turnout, ...
... round the bend tonight. Try as I might I couldn't get the captions to work or get the pictures to load in anything other then haphazard order...!!!! So anyway here's a bit more progress with the MPD. I'm using a London Road Models turntable 50' (although it should only be 44') which is turning into a very nice model and its driven by a Chatham models turntable drive which, so far has proved a relatively easy install once I'd got the wiring the correct way round ... progress to date on that board. 2787_101646_050000000.jpg Here is view looking south towards the platforms with the up and down main line running either side of the carriage siding in the centre of the picture and on the left a row of three turnouts giving on to the marshalling yard area directly opposite the platforms. 2787_101652_300000000.jpg and here's a view in the opposite direction with the platform (when its built) immediately on the left of the turnout and my "dodgy trackwork detector wagon" about half way down the board. This is a lovely ...
... 236 Mostyn: Fiddle Yard design posted: 15 Nov 2007 21:18 from: Richard Oldfield Dear all, Here is the design of the fiddle yard on our P4 layout, Mostyn, as it will shortly become following two minor modifications:- the introduction of road 17 as a loop from road 16- the introduction of a trailing siding from road 16 for the storage of light engines I'm afraid that not all of the scenic section of Mostyn was 'templotted'- some of it dates from the dark and distant age when ... topic: 236 Mostyn: Fiddle Yard design posted: 15 Nov 2007 21:18 from: Richard Oldfield Dear all, Here is the design of the fiddle yard on our P4 layout, Mostyn, as it will shortly become following two minor modifications:- the introduction of road 17 as a loop from road 16- the introduction of a trailing siding from road 16 for the storage of light engines I'm afraid that not all of the scenic section of Mostyn was 'templotted'- some of it dates from the dark and ...
... ' square. The room is the converted loft space above a double garage and has been fully fitted out with a proper staircase, heating and lighting to eventually house a multi layer 00 layout. The lower level is under construction now and will have 12 through storage roads, each about 30' long. The lower level will be about 18" below the scenic level which will allow full access to the storage roads for track cleaning and point repair etc. Joining the two levels will be a spiral at a gradient of 1 ... I want to run main line trains of 7/8 coaches plus freight of 30 wagons plus. My interest is watching trains move at scale speeds with representative formations. Freight will be of the through variety and will have its own upper storage loops (or goods yard) which has yet to be finalised. The freight storage loops shown in green is simply a representation and may be changed if better alternatives can be found. The lower level is shown here. lowerlevelsem2.jpg...and the upper level here. upperlevelsrotatedxy5.jpg I have adapted ...
... for the bubble level. That looks useful. p.s. spare battery arrived and now fully charged. Now to see how often I need it. cheers, Martin. posted: 1 Mar 2018 14:05 from: Martin Wynne Today's Geograph: brown_clee_sheep_1280_rp.jpg The access road to the NATS Relay Station on Clee Burf offers fine views of the Shropshire Hills AONB. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5695209 Martin. posted: 1 Mar 2018 14:35 from: FraserSmith An unusual view of an iconic mountain on a walk ... Durbetaki Thanks Martin! How little I know and what interesting things I have learned! John posted: 2 Apr 2018 22:08 from: Martin Wynne trig_tracks_1280x640.jpg Making tracks to a trig pillar posted: 7 Apr 2018 22:31 from: Martin Wynne In the yard at Parkend on 3rd August 1968: parkend_yard_600x748.jpg Not much point in going back with 24 megapixels -- this is the view today: http://goo.gl/maps/DMHhPHE7hbE2 Martin. posted: 11 Apr 2018 02:24 from: Martin Wynne I've ...
... have a lot to do -- the L1 bridge chairs, check rail chairs, crossing chairs. The P slide chairs are always aligned to the stock rail, whereas the 1PL, 1PR, etc., block chairs are always square-on to the main road. The first two of those are shorter, because they have no inner jaw. The remaining block chairs have a full inner key jaw. As you can see, chairs remain aligned to the rails when the along and twist functions are applied to the timbers ... cross-section to conduct the current for a typical model motor without any undue voltage drop. If it is say 5 thou thick, that's 0.13mm x 2mm= 0.26mm^2. For a copper wire that would be rated around 2-3 amps over several yards, so for say 300mA over a few inches nickel-silver should be no problem. cheers, Martin. Last edited on 14 Apr 2018 00:43 by Martin Wynne posted: 14 Apr 2018 01:44 from: Andrew Barrowman Martin Wynne wrote: ...
... angle diamonds vary a lot. But don't bother with timber shoving until you know you have your finalised track plan, otherwise it is wasted work if you make changes. Note that in your file you also need to reset geometry> centre-line options> main road (normal) before going much further. I will answer your other questions when I have had a bit more time to look at them. regards, Martin. posted: 1 May 2016 14:59 from: RK Martin Many thanks for that and for ... , as work will get in the way from later today for a couple of days! For reference, the lines on the left (i.e. those that end on straight track) are the Up and Down Main( and will disappear into a lower level fiddle yard at the top end of the diagram) while those two on the right (which finish with the point work) form the single track access into the loco depot. So as you look across the diagram, as in your screen shots above:- Up ...
... fit as drawn can be a problem. Especially in P4! The problem is the single slip. Iain has drawn a 1:4 inside slip. That's next to impossible in P4 (or the prototype), the radius is just too tight. The slip road is needed because without it there is no run-round capability for the loop. I tried changing it to an outside slip (a very attractive formation, and also a favourite of Iain's), but there just isn't room. It would mean widening the ... topic: 117 Fremington North Yard posted: 29 Jul 2007 05:44 from: Rextanka Hello, This is my first post in the new forum, and very nice the forum is too. I'm much preferring the denizens of such places to those that lurk on lists, I think perhaps it's because actual modelling is being done on the fora I started this topic to discuss the challenges of going from a layout sketch to a workable plan, and I have a specific plan in mind. Martin has very kindly offered to ...
... _1858_35.box 379 posted: 2 Mar 2010 10:41 from: Martin Wynne Hi Jamie, I've managed to fit a D-12/ C-12 crossover in that board. See below. By changing to generic V-crossings the minimum radius on the crossover road is 68.5" -- not quite the 72" you are looking for, but with a bit of gauge-widening it would probably be ok. For curved crossovers you can usually go down one switch size on the inner turnout. If you want a ... design for a new O gauge exhibition layout to replace my current one based on Long Preston near Settle. It will be built with overhead for the early Midland Electrics thought the overhead will not be working as it would be too much trouble to wire p the fiddle yard. This is my first attempt at a templot design and any comments would be appreciated. I'm not sure how to uplad the background shapes that show the base board outlines as well as the track plan. Jamie Guest Attachment: attach_660_948_green_ayre_09_09_20 _1752_08.bgs 595 posted: 2 ...
... on, with or without the timbering as appropriate. regards, Martin. posted: 7 Apr 2008 23:12 from: Stewart McSporran Hi Martin, Thanks for the reply. I can see how the timber ends in line helps with the sleepers along the main road but I'm afraid that I don't see how it helps for the timbers in the turnout road. They still need to be thrown. I did try throwing them by the difference between their original length and the new 108" length, but when you start rotating ... but it is a delusion. They may be trying to bridge over lack of packing, until something breaks. If something was being laid as a sleepered lead at Blackford in the 1970s it was undoubtedly secondhand. Not in the running line I hope but in the yard, which by then as I recall was an Up refuge siding with a tamper siding off it. Something recovered from Fife, which for a while had been Perth's, and something paid for out of the, by then Divisional, Engineer's budget to avoid any ...
... clicking the tools> make ladder crossover menu item repeatedly, once for each diamond-crossing. This makes it possible to change the adjacent track spacing for each diamond-crossing (geometry> adjacent track centres... menu item) as necessary. If slip roads are needed, they are added to the diamond-crossings afterwards. There are two types of ladder track: 1. In a regular ladder, the diagonal-road has the same radius as the main-road (or both are straight), and ... the turnout-road (or can in some cases be straight across curved main roads). Curviform ladders are comprised of curviform diamond-crossings, and are often used to form running-line double-junctions, and to gain access across running lines to goods yards, engine sheds and industrial sidings. Slips are less common in curviform ladders because of the usually shorter crossing angles. The type of ladder track is determined by the type of V-crossing which is currently set for the control template. To change it, ...
... . Regards David Attachment: attach_2530_3095_Moretonhampstead _002.zip 256 posted: 12 Oct 2017 08:47 from: Tony W Hi David. A regular diamond, by definition, has all the crossings at the same angle. It may be straight or curved, but if curved both roads will have the same radius. Irregular diamonds have roads of differing radii or one straight and one curved, hence the crossing angles get progressively sharper through the diamond as the roads diverge. Regards Tony. posted: 12 Oct 2017 09:35 from: David ... Martin, Thank you for your very informative reply, much appreciated. I wasn't too sure on what specification for the Turnout Switch/ Crossings I should be using so thanks for that. I've uploaded 3 images of Moretonhampstead to show the Engine Release Crossover and the Goods Yard Crossover. Now that I have more time available, more information to hand, plus the availability of the 25" Maps from NLS I think this will be an ideal opportunity to start my Moretonhampstead project afresh. I will post my progress to this thread. ...
... you want (in a curved crossover for example). But in many cases where the intention is for the tracks to diverge, it is better to change to a curviform V-crossing. Otherwise you will have a short section of reverse curve in the diverging road. Often this doesn't show very obviously on the screen, but it will do when looking along the finished tracks. To see what I mean, here I have greatly exaggerated the effect: 2_240554_100000000.png 2_240554_300000000.png I see this problem very often in uploaded track plans. ... on to keep the main clear. The issues I have: 1. I have made a single slip on the mainline, I followed the video tutorial and I think I have done it right? 2. Because I am running out of space for the goods yard behind the station and cannot move the whole thing up I really need to add in a 3 way tandem turnout (So I can remove a point and save a little space). Now I tried to follow all the old instructions but when I added the ...
... a start. Just as a matter of interest, what is the purpose of the turnout beyond the goods shed? I can see it might serve as a means of releasing some wagons from that end of the shed, but only if the siding beyond the shed road is kept clear, which doesn't seem me to be that useful. Any ideas? posted: 14 Feb 2010 15:50 from: Dellboy Nigel Brown wrote: Just as a matter of interest, what is the purpose of the turnout beyond the goods shed ... so CAD design escapes my limited intellect) The time investment in learning the program is significant. Is there anyone who is able to produce a Templot file for me? (Lazy bugger that I am.) The tricky area is really the flow of the goods yard- almost tandem turnouts. I attach the station in question- Corfe Castle, Dorset. 46_131232_230000000.png (Click the link in the Image Gallery to see it full-size.) Neil Berrington Canada posted: 13 Feb 2010 18:06 from: Paul Boyd ...
... on the curved diamond and saving a copy) to attach the turnout to the peg, MCP or TCP as appropriate, and then manipulating it by swapping/inverting the hand until it obviously lay on the diamond in the right position. Once there making the slip road was easy and guranteed to be right. I say this after making numerous mistakes and getting some very weird slips, incliding those in which the switch blades were outside the point entirely. Anyway, here it is. Phil Attachment: attach_276_444_Double_slip_group_0 8_05_26_1206_14.box 660 posted: ... a single outside slip, you can make a double outside slip in the same way. I have no idea if there are any prototype examples of that formation though! Hi Paul, Phil, Double outside slips are certainly found in UK track, more commonly in yards than in running lines. Here is a well-known picture of one. Notice that it is not symmetrical, the left-hand slip road is longer and to an easier radius than the right-hand slip road. Which adds to the fun of ...
... in transit where the goods yard was. You might find it a good idea to have an additional trailing crossover between the inner and middle loops at the east end of the junction to make manouvering a bit easier. At the same time I'd see if the terminal road and run around at the top of the plan could be curved a bit to be parallel with the wall; that would give a bit more room for a scenic background, which is currently very tight. You could also, by replacing the engine release road ... , plus reasonable loco servicing facilities. One thing which struck me about the plan was that space for storing stock is limited; with the sort of junction I've outlined it might be possible to improve that. What I suggest might be worth considering is replacing the goods yard by a smaller one up in the north east corner. You'd then have space for a slightly larger loco facilities plus at least a couple of sidings for holding traffic in transit where the goods yard was. You might find it a good idea to have an ...
... and post it soon. Other things have been occuping my time recently as you may have noticed. MS is Main Side and refers to the mainroad track side of the turnout/ point, TS is the Turnout Side and refers to the side to which the diverging road is going, i.e. a Crossover will normally consist of a pair of turnouts joined at their Turnout Sides. Tony. Last edited on 28 Nov 2011 12:25 by Tony W posted: 28 Nov 2011 12:21 from: Ian Allen I wholeheartedly ... a year now and although it took me some time to get into it, I am really pleased that I kept going. I raised a few questions early which were answered almost by return for which I was most gratful. I have now drawn up my fiddle yard, produced the templates and made all the turnout.This is now wired up and I have started testing with all the turnouts working well. I could not have achieved this without Templot and please accept my heartfelt appreciation. I think Templot is a great tool and I ...
... 10:41 from: Martin Wynne Hi Andrew, I'm no longer happy that I have the island platform correct. This picture: 1569212_d5595de5.jpg Yeovil Pen Mill somerights20.gif© Copyright Roger Cornfoot and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence. and many others taken from the road bridge tend to exaggerate the kink in the up side and suggest that the main part of the platform is tapered. See also: http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/picture/number1059.asp However, it must be an optical illusion, because an aerial view ... number of switches from REA types to GW loose heel type and I'd appreciate it if anyone would check what I've done to see if it hangs together ok? The majority of converted switches are on the right hand northern side of the plan around the platforms and goods yard. The problem that I am having is with the curve in the goods yard/ exchange sidings. As you can see I've created a curved line to connect both ends and inserted a switch at one end(left end) but that this doesn't match the ...
19. Changes in 217a
... topic: 3155 Changes in 217a posted: 13 Dec 2017 23:00 from: Martin Wynne A summary of the main changes in 217a: 1. There is a new minimum menu option for the turnout-road exit length: 2_131530_190000000.png Previously it was necessary to set adjustable and manually reduce it to the minimum. Now it is a single click. There is an existing peg position for this when pegging on the next template -- TMINP. 2. The main-road side now has a similar set of options ... EM, P4, 0-MF as the common handbuilt track sizes. Then we need to cover single-sided and double-sided versions. Straight and curved. So that's 16 tandem turnouts, before even considering the sizes. Say a shortish one for goods yards, and a longer one for junctions and station throats. 32 tandem turnouts. On top of that, we need to allow both curviform and regular crossings for one or both of the base turnouts, in case the user wants sidings or crossovers. That would ...
20. Kingsbere
... and on his present "East Lynn" layout and it is a extremely interesting method of working and can provide hours of fun. So it might be worth considering propelling a wagon down into one of the two sidings and then pulling it back into the goods shed road with a chain. Retrieval of the wagon is by normal means, using the lower of the two sidings as a headshunt for the shed road. Jim. posted: 5 Jan 2012 11:57 from: LSWRArt Hi Rob and Jim, Thanks for the ... wrote: 2) There is a lot of shuffling back and forward to get wagons down to the good shed and the sidings used as headshunts to do this can't also be used to contain parked wagons. There were a few ways of moving wagons around in goods yards- e.g. using pinchbars and horse power- instead of "normal" shunting with a locomotive. These methods are difficult to reproduce on a model railway layout but one other method was chain or rope shunting, where the loco pulled wagons onto other tracks. ...
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