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... again. Alternatively you can right-click on continue and select Open Link in New Tab. It is handy to be able to quickly refer back to previous pages in the tabs. I'm glad you are enjoying trying TDV. I'm in two minds what to do about the track plan tutorial. It is so old that in a lot of places there are now much easier ways of doing the same thing. If you compare it with this video: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html you will see lots of differences. The tutorial needs a complete re-write to match the videos. On the other hand lots of users say how useful it is in understanding the basics of Templot, and I don't want to lose that. regards, Martin. posted: 4 Oct 2011 10:25 from: Les G Hi martin, I will try your "Ctrl click continue" suggestion. Thanks, It occurs to me that the track plan tutorial is too valuable to discard. So instead of a complete ...
... flowing pointwork through curves, and it is not very prototypical, at least for plain track. Have a look at this video, and you will see that no individual track pieces are ever fitted together. What you normally do is to create the running track alignments and then insert pointwork into them. That usually means extending the initial template length, splitting off part of it, inserting pointwork in it. Then extending it again and repeating the process: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html Sorry it's now a rather old video. Note also that the F10 swell function at the start is now on CTRL+ F10. But you can of course work the way you want if you prefer. Try this as a test: 1. start Templot from scratch and don't reload your previous session for this test. 2. you should see the control template and nothing else. Press the HOME key a few times to confirm there is nothing else there. 3. use F7 to shift it about. No ghosts ...
... that 2, 3 and 4 are special -- if you press/click them repeatedly, the peg angle is toggled between the two roads of the turnout. Try it. Bear in mind also that a beginner Templot user can largely ignore the peg and notch functions. If you watch this video showing a small bit of track plan being created, you can see that they are never explicitly used -- and that's even without using F7 snapping: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html Many thanks Brian for the PDF file. regards, Martin. posted: 10 Aug 2010 12:38 from: kenbec Martin, Even if you forget, you can see the common peg locations very easily. Just hold down the CTRL key and run along all the number keys -- 1 ..2 ..3.. to 0, until you find the one you want. Yes! I had forgotten this too. I have been away from Templot for quite some time, not by choice, and have forgotten nearly everything ...
... then insert turnouts. Yes, if you want to do track planning. But if you are only interested in printing out templates, you don't need to know any of that. This is the big problem in writing the help notes. At present I steer beginners towards these two online videos, which do cover most of the basics -- they need updating for Templot2: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/startup/startup_em.html http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html But again, the problem is getting folks to actually watch them. Allan Ferguson and Tony Wilkins have both written beginners tutorials, obeying the golden rule that the notes should not be written by me: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?getting_started_allan_ferguson.htm http://templot.com/companion/index.html?beginners_guide_tony_wilkins.htm regards, Martin. posted: 2 Jun 2012 10:48 from: Howard LSWRArt wrote:...Despite the remarks of some members I have found Sketchpad vital. I am still designing the trackwork for my ...
... . Tony. Last edited on 21 Oct 2011 12:11 by Tony W posted: 20 Oct 2011 18:46 from: Martin Wynne Dr G Alan Gee wrote: I have made a station loop following the instructions in Martins video. How do i insert a point into the loop as the insert button is greyed out. I am new to Templot. Any suggestions would be of great help. Hi Alan, Do you mean this video: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html Or if some other one, can you post the link? regards, Martin. posted: 20 Oct 2011 19:46 from: Dr G Alan Gee The video is at the end of the topic on Run round loop in Templot which I found by putting run round loop into the help key. Sorry I do not know how to post the link. Alan posted: 20 Oct 2011 20:25 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, I think you mean this one: That is a basic run-round ...
... deal with it. It means Templot is drawing every template 3 or 4 times over, making the screen zoom and pan response much slower than it need be. I guess you made that plan mostly by joining together individual templates, as might be done in "pick and place" track plan programs? That's not the way Templot works for best results. You might like to watch this video, and notice that separate templates are never joined together: http://templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html Looking at your plan there are several places where you have an instant reverse curve: 2_292131_530000000.png That is very rarely found on the prototype, except perhaps in cramped yards. Apart from looking unprototypical it can also cause rough running and sometimes overthrow and coupling problems. Reverse curves always have a length of straight between them, or else they transition smoothly from one direction to the other in an S-curve. Generally in models we never have enough space, so inserting a length of straight between reverse curves isn't always feasible. ...
... of the videos. Please read the download page at: http://templot.com/downloads/download.htm With the best will in the world, I can't write a complete Templot manual as a reply here. I'm very sorry that great swathes of the docs, and many videos, are out of date and waiting for me to update them. That's why Templot is free to use. As a starting point you may wish to watch this video: http://templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html (Note that the F10 swell function in the video is now on CTRL+ F10.) And then you could read these pages: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?gs_firstoff.htm http://templot.com/martweb/gs_whatis.htm http://templot.com/companion/index.html?gs_baffled.htm For a list of docs and their current state, see: message 19146 regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> ...
... will usually be the through running line and/or the main platform track. For a double-track line choose the track having the most pointwork. Set out this track to the required ruling curve as plain track all through. You can then start inserting turnouts in it, splitting off sections and inserting more pointwork, adding double track alongside it, extending sidings from it, and so on. See this video for the basics of this method: http://templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html (Sorry it is an old video -- the swell function is now on CTRL+ F10.) Notice in the video that it is seldom necessary to join two templates together -- i.e. your method (b) -- which is essentially the traditional modellers train-set approach. Extending existing track and inserting pointwork in it produces a much more prototypical result, with flowing curves through junctions and connections. regards, Martin. posted: 27 Mar 2015 10:51 from: madscientist Thanks again Martin your experience ...
... to form a mini-layout. Hi Peter, Joining individual pieces is not the best way to use Templot. You can do it that way of course, and sometimes it is the only way to get exactly what you want. But generally it is better to define the running lines first and then insert the pointwork into them. Have a look at this video -- you will see that nowhere are two pre-made pieces joined together: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html p.s. note that the video is a bit out of date -- the swell function is now on CTRL+ F10 shortcut, see: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?swell_function_ctrl_f10.htm regards, Martin. posted: 14 Mar 2014 19:54 from: Paul Willis Hi Martin, We are back to that issue that we chatted about at Warley. The first thing that a new Templot user sees is a turnout... This line of thinking is hardly surprising. Cheers Paul posted: 14 Mar ...
10. Another one lost
... new one can then be joined to existing templates using F7 snapping (SHIFT F7 button), and stored using the orange down arrows button. All these buttons explain themselves if the mouse is hovered over them. In the event beginners want to make changes to a background template, they would most likely use make the control, which is intentionally near the top of the template's menu for that reason. If you watch the beginners track planning video*: http://templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html you will see that copy to the control isn't used in it. It's a function for more experienced users, so modifying it for beginners seems unnecessary -- especially as your suggested modification doesn't seem to me to be very helpful for them, because in many cases it would cause the control template to disappear from view. The snag as always is that I'm not a beginner. *please note that the swell function F10 in that old video is now on CTRL+ F10 in Templot2. regards, Martin. posted: ...
... you have used a left-hand turnout. It would be very much better to use a right-hand turnout there, so that there is no switch deflection in the running line. I will make a separate video shortly showing how to do that and re-align the existing templates. You may find it helpful to watch this beginner video. It is a bit out-of-date now but shows all the most common mouse actions: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html Please note that the F10 swell mouse action shown there is now CTRL+ F10, more about that here: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?swell_function_ctrl_f10.htm* I have to include this basic info in replies because we have readers all over the world. regards, Martin. posted: 14 Nov 2013 11:43 from: Martin Wynne Hi Chris, Here is the next video. This one shows how to shift a group of templates into alignment with some other template, using the notch-linking functions ...
... , but shows it working: http://www.templot.com/martweb/f7_snap_demo.htm But as explained by RC and Alan, a better way is to lay out the running lines as plain tracks, and then insert the turnouts into them. This will make it much easier to create flowing curves through your pointwork, and largely eliminate the need for short linking tracks. This video shows that method of working (over a background sketch similar to yours): http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html Note that the F10 function shown in the video is now CTRL-F10. This page has some more notes about that, and aligning a running line over a background image: http://templot.com/companion/index.html?swell_function_ctrl_f10.htm You might like to try a new version using such methods (as RC and Alan have done) -- just ask again here if you get stuck. regards, Martin. posted: 1 Aug 2013 09:12 from: Paul Willis Martin Wynne wrote: I'm afraid there are ...
... 22:38 from: Martin Wynne Jim Guthrie wrote: Since way back with 0.74 (IIRC) I've always had unwanted copies of templates appearing. I've always tried to find out if it was me doing something wrong and I've developed methods to try and avoid their appearance. Hi Jim, I'd like to understand what you are doing which creates these unwanted templates. If you watch this short video, you will see that no unwanted templates are produced: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html Perhaps you could say what you are doing which is different? You can reference sections of the video from the elapsed time showing bottom right. regards, Martin. posted: 3 Aug 2012 23:30 from: Martin Wynne p.s. In the video, note the sequence at 2mins-15secs, store& background followed by delete to the control on the lower template. This can now be done as a single function -- click on the lower template and then make the control on its menu. This stores the ...
14. Getting Started
... the keyboard or click the STOP tool button at the top of the screen. *If you are using a laptop computer you may need to first press or hold a key called FN-LOCK or similar to make the F keys work. Before doing anything else go to help> print F key chart menu item. Then to get started in Templot try these links: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/startup/startup_em.html http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html the F10 function in this video is now CTRL+ F10 http://templot.com/companion/index.html?getting_started_allan_ferguson.htm http://www.templot.com/martweb/templot_gs.htm http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_firstoff.htm http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_mouse_notes.htm http://www.templot.com/martweb/tut5a.htm http://www.templot.com/martweb/video_list.htm regards, Martin. posted: 19 Feb 2012 16:10 from: Adrian (ffoil) Hi Martin, Many thanks, I've moved it. Time to watch some ...
15. Curved crossover
... turnout F4, Moved the fixing peg onto the TXP Point, Stored it to background, then rotate 178 degree could not do 180 absolute then went to curving and set rad -2100 and printed it out on A3 it look OK. What do you think? I don't understand why you are doing all that when Templot will do it all for you? Just click the tools> make crossover menu item as Nigel explained. Watch it happen at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html You have made a mistake with the radius. If the outer turnout is on 2100mm radius, and the track centres are 87mm apart, the inner turnout will be on a radius of -2013mm (negative radius for the contraflexure). i.e. 87- 2100= -2013 But as I said, Templot does all this for you. I am making you a video with some additional notes, but it's taking a few days. In the meantime please watch the one on the above web link. regards, Martin ...
16. Startup options
... 23:31 from: Martin Wynne Howard wrote: When I restart Templot& reload the saved template, I try to extend the branch line but it adds another point. What am I doing wrong? Hi Howard, Click on the template. On its menu (which pops up on the left), click delete to the control.* Then click tools> make branch track menu item. You may find it helpful to watch this video: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html (* for versions prior to 091c, that's delete to current instead.) There is also a small white rectangle that I don't understand and cannot get rid of. It's called the "notch" and is used in more complex overlay and positioning operations. Read all about the peg and notch functions at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_geometry.htm But for a beginner you don't need them. You can do all the basic stuff, as in the above video, using the tools menu functions and F7 snapping ...
... Templot Club.____ The static "track plan tutorial" is at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/tut5a.htm and uses version 074b of Templot. To follow it you need to be using version 074b. This tutorial is now 10 years old and as soon as I can I intend to abolish it and rewrite it for the later versions of Templot.____ The "starter track plan" video is here: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html and was created using a later version of Templot. To follow it you need to be using version 091c. Likewise for all the other videos.____ While learning Templot you can swap to and fro between the versions, just download and install whichever you want each time. It takes only a few seconds to change. When you start using Templot in earnest I recommend that you use 091c only, as it contains a great many additional features. I'm sorry the situation is confusing. It's next to impossible ...
... CTRL-6 TVJP item on its pop-up menu. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- 1 or 3 are the simplest methods since they require only a single click. Note however that 1 isn't available if the turnout is in a transition curve template. 3 works for any template, including half-diamonds. You can see 3 being used at elapsed time 4mins 2secs in this video: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html For information about upgrading to version 091c (free), see: message 1849 Make sure you click all the links there to read all the notes about the cumulative changes from 074b. I will write about loops separately soon. regards, Martin. posted: 22 Oct 2010 19:44 from: Mike Huxley Martin, Thanks for the pointers they sure helped. I'm using 074b at the moment, as I'm sure I read that it was better to get used to this version first before upgrading to the 091c version. ...
... Martin Wynne BruceNordstrand wrote: Guys, I suggested something like youtube to ease the pain for Martin in packaging videos or deciding on format. Hi Bruce, Thanks for your suggestions and helpful intent, sorry if I seemed a bit negative. We already have a web-based solution which is better than YouTube -- both of these Templot videos run directly in the browser: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/startup/startup_em.html http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html with no advertising and the option of the relevant notes on the same page. The argument is between that Flash-based format and the Camtasia Player downloads. There are pros and cons both ways. But YouTube or Vimeo would be a backwards step from both, and wouldn't save anything in the work involved. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> I found a flaw> Another Windows 7 issue about ...
... group/templot/message/3671 and with some additional comments from me: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/templot/message/3675 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/templot/message/3676 Although those cover the peg and notch functions in some depth, I would like to remind beginners that you don't need those functions for a simple track plan. If you follow this video you can see that they are not explicitly used: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter/em_starter.html And for situations where those methods don't apply, in 082d and later there is also F7 snapping: http://www.templot.com/martweb/f7_snap_demo.htm regards, Martin. posted: 29 Aug 2010 12:38 from: donald peters Hi Martin, a bit OT but I have tried umpteen ways to access the message id's you give snd all I get is Firefox 'created errors/will shut program and IE claiming that the site ID is unintelligable and 'Ask Jeeves' which says the same or sending me to oo-SF ...
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