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... material. Guess how I know. Regards Tony. posted: 8 Nov 2017 13:18 from: Andrew Duncan Hmm wise words Tony but that's going to require self discipline...! When you say version 9 where they track plan changes or something elsethat you'd changed?Andrew posted: 8 Nov 2017 22:21 from: Tony W Andrew Duncan wrote: When you say version 9 where they track plan changes or something else that you'd changed?Andrew Hi Andrew. A mixture of things really. The layout was extended once with the addition of an off scene industrial siding, which required the replacement of a turnout with an outside slip, but mostly it was down to errors and amendments made over the course of time. The most recent change (from issue 8 to 9) was replacing the pencil drawn original with the computer graphic I posted, but I took the opportunity to update one of the point motor numbers from M2 to M2a for clarity. This change had been noted in red ink on the earlier working copy some years ago ...
... here as new facilities become available, the least we can do is take the trouble to read them periodically! You would need to go back a long way to see the introduction of the tools> make crossover function, it was part of the first release 17 years ago: tut5-16.gif But if you do read about new functions and try them, it would be helpful to post something saying so. That makes it more likely that others will notice it too. For example in the latest program update I added the extend/shorten to meet functions. I have found them extremely useful and time-saving, and I've been kicking myself for not doing some such years ago. See: topic 2969 I prepared a short tutorial page about them (begin paragraph 6): http://templot.com/companion/link_existing.html But so far silence. I don't know if anyone has tried them, found them useful, found any problems? Which means I suspect that the majority of users have not discovered them. I don't really know what I ...
... a different radius, or is there an easier way to do this? Hi Tony. This can be done simply with the shift and join button at the top of the screen. When you move the ends of the two templates close enough they will snap together automatically. There is also a rather more elegant way of of doing this with the transition curve method. Move the peg to the end of the template you wish to fix or peg to the Trackpad. Ctrl 0 or Ctrl 1. Use the F4 key to extend the length of the control template. Then selected the Geometry drop down menu, go to the transition curve sub menu and choose one of the options such as C curve expanding transition. This will generate a transition curve with the larger radius twice the smaller one if your starting track was curved. Now repeat the process but this time choose the Zero-length instant transition at peg option. You can now adjust the boundary between the two radius by using Shift+ Ctrl+ F3 adjust transition start position. You can adjust ...
... the "Main-Road exit" function. It allows the lengthening or shortening of the main road but it appears to do very strange things: If the turnout is inserted in a length of track then the main-road exit can only be shortened, in which case, the sleepers are left in position. It cannot be lengthened, beyond the template but the length indication says that it is lengthening. The extension can be split off. This is the same for a minted turnout, the turnout main rails cannot be extended beyond the minted limit. The above would seem to be the opposite of the turnout-road exit function which can be extended but doesn't have sleepers and cannot be split off. Cheers, Godders. posted: 15 Dec 2017 07:54 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Hi Martin, 30 minutes later; I have just done program>clear all, leaving a length of track with a turnout. Pressed F4, to increase length, sleepers have extended but not rails. Minted new with LH B6, F4, worked perfectly ...
... topic: 3710 Turnout road check rail lengths+ tags disappearing posted: 26 Jun 2020 19:06 from: Paul Boyd Hi Martin I think I've found a bug or two! Box file attached. Firstly, when extending the check rails near or beyond the ends of the turnout, main road or turnout road, the label for the end of the check rail disappears and there doesn't seem to be a way to get it back other than doing a "reset all". (Unless it still happens to be the one currently being adjusted, of course) Secondly, on the turnout or diamond road, we can't always extend the check rails very far, and this seems to be inconsistent. On the box file, DS2 has been extended as far as it'll go, and the label has been lost. This does only seem to affect the turnout or diamond side, I've extended main side check rails for miles to get check-railed plain track (and blanked of the turnout itself!) The specific example where I discovered this was ...
... side of the diamond crossing is too close. Cheers. Phil Attachment: attach_286_465_scissors_crossover _08_06_20_1128_19.box 743 posted: 20 Jun 2008 18:28 from: Jim Guthrie phileakins wrote: Hi Folks My main difficulty now is that I can't see how to provide the proper check rails for the lower left 'V' crossing on the opposite rail, the V of the left side of the diamond crossing is too close. Phil. I think you are almost there. If you get rid of the flares on the check rails in the diamond and extend these check rails to a spliced point- virtually a mirror image of the crossing nose- then you should have adequate checking for the opposite crossing nose. The part of the back of the tyre which contacts the check rail is not a point but a chord of several inches long so the back would be in contact with the extended check rail in the diamond then the wing rail of the crossing while moving in a facing direction and the length of the chord on the back of the wheel should bridge the gap between the ...
... topic: 2687 Scissors crossing on transition curves posted: 14 May 2015 00:01 from: dave turner This is my attempt to create a scissors crossing between two transient curves at the approach to a station. (Shrewsbury circa 1955) With the lack of actual data I've assumed GWR curved turnouts. The attached box file is my best attempt so far. Over and above any other issues that I've probably screwed up, I would like advice/comment as well on two further points. a) I extended the top check rail over the full width of the crossover while leaving the bottom check rails split. On further consideration if this were to be done perhaps the inner (bottom) curve, if any. would have the extended check rail. What is the best way? b) The Right Diamond is as it was generated by Templot whereas I attempted to extend the Left Diamond checkrails to meet and form a 'point' which I wasn't able to do. 1) is the Right Diamond, as is, adequate for safe operation? ...
... you have it where you want it, you can define that position as the user position. A below. To return the peg to that user position at any time, B below. To enter the peg position as dimensions, C below. 2_110734_170000000.png regards, Martin. posted: 11 Mar 2014 13:02 from: pointo1d Hiya Martin, It may be, probably is, my mis-use of the the Wonder that is Templot, but found I was repeatedly creating transition curves that exactly overlaid turnout background templates (extending beyond the turnout by a considerable margin) and then trying to use the notch as a marker for the appropriate peg position on background template e.g. make transition curve, save and background, make turnout control, move peg to <Ctrl><0 >, <Ctrl><9 >, etc., move notch under peg, save and background, make transition control, -- >move peg over notch<--, split at peg, delete unwanted new template... repeat until done. ...
... get, but I worked on one fret per turnout. I found this picture on RMWeb which may help. 105_260538_390000000.jpg Cheers, Paul posted: 26 Feb 2018 14:41 from: davelong Thanks guys. Certainly looks enough for 3 A5's from 2 frets. Plus I could always improvise from a set of plain track etches, but I'm pretty certain there's enough there. Dave posted: 21 Mar 2018 15:35 from: davelong Hi guys. I've started building a 3 turnout formation with these. Am I to presume the Extended chairs are to represent block chairs and the narrow chairs to represent Bridge chairs. I'm also presuming that the keyed extended chairs are normal keyed running chairs as no extended chairs appear in the fret diagram and to use standard chairs with the filler pieces in the gap to represent the block. So I'd need 6 slide chairs then 4 block chairs and then 2 narrow chairs for a B5.25 629_211035_120000000.jpg posted: 21 Mar 2018 15:58 from: Hayfield Good luck as I found the design and etching an absolute stunning bit of engineering ...
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... you have plenty of more worthwhile activities to deal with. Cheers Richard Last edited on 1 Feb 2011 18:59 by BeamEnds posted: 1 Feb 2011 19:23 from: Martin Wynne BeamEnds wrote: I don't know if this is relevant, but setting them all to default using'/' caused some frantic processing that stiffed my machine for about five minutes Oo-er. This is what I mean by not being entirely convinced that Templot works correctly on non-Windows systems. Does Wine support the 80-bit Extended data type for floating-point? If not we could have hit a major snag here, ditto for Crossover on a Mac. What is the processor on your system? Martin. posted: 1 Feb 2011 20:14 from: BeamEnds Hi Martin, it's an Intel Celeron, and Linux reports that it is running in Long Mode, so 64 bit should be ok. I probably wrong here, but I'm led to believe 80-bit Extended floating-point is only used internally in the processor to make 64 ...
... the template, with no visible difference for plain track. (a) I can split track at a peg, that's fine, is there a way to rejoin track that's split No, but you can undo changes to get back before the split, if it was recent. If you have since changed the radius of one or both of the templates, you may be able to use make transition to create a single template with a zero-length transition at the former boundary. If you haven't, you can use the extend/shorten to meet functions to extend one of the templates to its former length, and then delete the other one. (b) if I have a curve that I want to connect to a straight track, but I want to ensure the straight track remains at a given rotate angle, is there a way to do that. I currently find I have to tweak the curve, and re-snap the straight track and check that the K remains at zero for the straight. i.e. it would be useful ...
... , can I make a plea for a future version to have the ability to apply check rails to plain track? Thanks again. Phil Last edited on 26 Sep 2008 16:04 by phileakins posted: 26 Sep 2008 16:50 from: Martin Wynne phileakins wrote: Martin, can I make a plea for a future version to have the ability to apply check rails to plain track? Hi Phil, You can do that with partial templates. Just remove everything from a turnout except the main-side check rail, extend its length, and then align it over the plain track. Here's a bit of scruffy Jing video showing that: http://screencast.com/t /hRWvua7F regards, Martin. posted: 26 Sep 2008 19:03 from: phileakins Thanks Martin. That video is very useful. Can I use the same technique to put check rails on both running rails? Sorry, I'm being lazy and asking instead of trying things out for myself! Phil posted: 26 Sep 2008 19:44 from: Martin Wynne phileakins ...
... 2008 22:51 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alex, I have just noticed that you have posted some pictures and plans on the Yahoo group. I'm copying them here on Templot Club for those members who are not regular visitors to the Yahoo group site. regards, Martin. bristol_old_mockup.gif bristol_old_plans.png bristol_old_station.jpg posted: 17 Sep 2008 06:47 from: Stumpytrain Great work Martin! You've done some excellent work tweaking the photos and plans for presentation on the forum. My plan so far is to start with platform 14, some how extend into 15 with the correct reverse curve. Then build the crossover (10) as I know what the track centres should be, and create middle road. The sidings and platform 13 can then be built off platform 15 as I know what the track centres for those should be. After a print out to check that it works within the structures I can then create the scissors crossover that's on a curve, with one end as a 3 way and the 2 trap ends! Sound like a plan?! Alex posted ...
... topic: 2884 Knapford Junction posted: 31 May 2016 12:22 from: Gavin Rose Hello all. 'Knapford Junction' pre 1955 version. I have been designing and re-designing this plan for several years on and off and now which to finalise the plan so it can be built. Martin kindly asked me to post it so he could start me off on a few pointers with which I again extend much gratitude for the offer. I do want to learn to use Templot but like many I'm having difficult getting to grips with it. if there is no file or pic it is because I am trying to add them. I have added the pic to the layout plan, or at least 1 version of it but I haven't added the Anyrail file as it keeps giving me an error message. Attachment: attach_2290_2884_Knapford_Junction _31-05-16.jpg 1219 Last edited on 31 May 2016 12:53 by Gavin Rose posted: 31 May 2016 13:01 from: Martin Wynne Hi Gavin, Thanks. There is no real need to attach ...
... topic: 2882 Checkrails in curved track with turnout posted: 24 May 2016 09:26 from: FraserSmith Hi My trackplan has two sets of very curved double tracks on the approach to the terminus. I have added one checkrail so far but I am unsure what should happen at the turnout. I can obviously extend the checkrail for the V back towards the switch but would that happen? The picture on the front of the 2mm society track book almost shows this scenario but the turnout is not on such a curved piece of track and the checkrail stops before the switches. I'm modelling in 00-FS but find that book is such a valuable source of information for track building. 3137_240356_240000000.png Thanks Fraser posted: 24 May 2016 11:23 from: Martin Wynne FraserSmith wrote: I can obviously extend the checkrail for the V back towards the switch but would that happen? Hi Fraser, Yes, that's quite common. Here are a few pics showing such a check rail extended back to the switch: 2_240614_180000002.jpg 2_240614_180000001.jpg As you can see the check ...
... becomes addictive. I can't believe anyone ever became addicted to using Word. When not Templotting I am mildly addicted to editing OpenStreetMap: http://www.openstreetmap.org/about The interface bears no resemblance to Word, that's for sure. Or Templot. I can spend hours on there if I'm not careful. Martin. just to be clear, I am not comparing Templot with Word or Word with a PCB design package what I am comparing is the consistent way modern GUIs approach similar tasks like drag and drop group selection sorting columns extended selections common dialogs and so forth as whether one is addicted to software, thats another days discussion, personally I find Templot very interesting, but at the end of the day I need to get the track plan out of it even open street map, which is a fairly light weight package, conforms, you have context sensitive right click, you have graphic toolbars etc, simple menus, with conventional wording( help, about etc) and this is is not a good comparison compared to a powerful app like Templot 30 ...
... double or halve for each step, so it is fairly obvious to correct. Here is how to find the information in a typical URL: maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=51.9959&lon=-2.1498&layers=6 &b =3 p.s. 2^zoom means 2zoom i.e. 2 raised to the power zoom regards, Martin. posted: 7 Aug 2017 03:45 from: Martin Wynne Another update. The directly-loaded tiled maps are great. They can be extended by adding additional rows and columns of tiles to almost any size, with little impact on panning and zooming performance. But the map which many users will want is the NLS 25-inch historic map of the whole country, which is the smallest scale which can really be used for track planning with any hope of replicating prototype turnout sizes and actual positions of pointwork. That's still a work-in-progress at NLS -- so far they have done about half of the many thousands of sheets needed for England& ...
... topic: 1400 check-rails through crossovers posted: 3 Mar 2011 18:06 from: geoff Hi, Is there anyone out there( doesn't have to be Martin) who can explain the thinking/rules about the use of check rails in the middle of a crossover? I've noticed in my Rhyl photographs that these exist in the D12 crossovers between fast-slow lines. Just in case I'm not making it clear, the effect is that the wing-rail in the turnout road on one side is extended until it joins the check rail of the other turnout. Thanks, Geoff posted: 3 Mar 2011 21:00 from: Martin Wynne Hi Geoff, These are called "parallel-wing crossings". They are used where the crossover tracks are sharply curved, or where the check and wing rails are so close together that there isn't room for at least two clear timbers between them. I'm not sure this is a formal rule though, practice seems to vary a lot. Anyone? Here's a full-size crop from your ...
... intersecting, and one or both of them is curved, Templot considers them as complete circles in order to calculate the intersection points, of which there are always two. Templot doesn't know which of these intersections you want to use -- unless one of them is so far off as to be obviously out of contention. Otherwise it asks you to specify which intersection you mean, as in the alert dialog above. Clearly it's not this one, as there is no track there. But if you were to zoom out and extend the length of your two templates, you would see that they would in fact intersect at this point. When you get a screen such as above, you can tell Templot that it's the wrong intersection, by clicking the no- try other intersection instead bar. The workpad is blank showing no grid lines because this intersection turns out to be in the negative quadrant. The "white square" is in fact the pegging notch. Templot is using it to mark the intersection location. The yellow circle is just a temporary ...
... at the recent Blackburn exhibition. We now need to approximately double the amount of storage road capacity (to meet the planned stock build over the next five years or so). We're only just at the planning stage for this expansion so anyone on this forum who is interested is more than welcome to provide suggestions or make comments (by all means use the templot already posted and have a go at designing the fiddle yard expansion). There are some limitations on the design of the new storage roads:-- we cannot extend the straight sections of the layout since the straight scenic part is an accurate re-creation of the prototype.- the layout has exhibition commitments for the new few years (when the extension is planned to be built) and has to be kept 'on the circuit' whilst the majority of the new construction takes place. At this stage we think a new fiddle yard of similar dimensions to the existing one- but built about a metre behind it and accessed via double junctions may be the best solution. Regards, Richard ...
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