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... miniature key on a break-off slug, or maybe by heat-sealing the open jaw down over the rail with a suitable shaped bit on the soldering iron. As soon as I have got a DXF out of this, and you have proved block substitution in CAD and successful printing, I'm going to be getting one of these printers myself and experimenting. At present the chairs are a bit primitive compared with the injection-moulded ones created by Len Newman, but everything has to start somewhere. I can still remember gluing unidentifiable bits of white metal over rivets. regards, Martin. posted: 21 Jan 2016 03:24 from: Andrew Barrowman As soon as I have got a DXF out of this, and you have proved block substitution in CAD and successful printing, I'm going to be getting one of these printers myself and experimenting. At present the chairs are a bit primitive compared with the injection-moulded ones created by Len Newman, but everything has to start somewhere. Hi Martin, 3D printed chairs that use an additive process ...
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... from: John Shelley Ed Callaghan wrote: For glueing down track& ballast, Norman Solomon recommends Febond PVA because it dries flexible, unlike wood glue, and therefore won't crack. Other writers recommend Copydex for exactly the same reason. My limited experience suggests that Copydex is probably more flexible than any brand of PVA, albeit more expensive. I'd welcome views from those in the know. Copydex is a latex based glue and as such inherantly more flexible than most PVA glues and in my view a better solution. When ballast is glued using PVA you get a solid mass which can transmit noise using the basebords as amplifiers. Less noise is transmitted through the flexibly glued ballast and so you get quieter running, not that important at an exhibition, but in the home.... A cheaper alternative to Copydex is the latex based glue used fitting carpets, usually sold in 5litre(?) plastic cans. Cheers for now John from 33820 St Ciers sur Gironde, France. posted: 23 Dec 2011 12:06 from: allanferguson Copydex does, ...
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... generally suit the kinds of layout I am likely to model where well tended ballast isn't the norm. Think goods depots, loco sheds, industrial sites and such like. I tend to favour plastikard timbers with thickness to suit- the 0.020"(0.5mm) is good but it precludes printing the bases with webbing between the timbers. It would be good to come up with a method for building trackwork formations at the workbench that could be moved into position on the baseboard but at this thickness the track isn't too robust until finally glued down. I am not a fan of leaving the templates in place on the layout. Rob posted: 9 Dec 2018 23:30 from: Martin Wynne Rob Manchester wrote: I tend to favour plastikard timbers with thickness to suit- the 0.020"(0.5mm) is good but it precludes printing the bases with webbing between the timbers. Hi Rob, How about printing thin sleepers and chairs directly onto a sheet of plastikard, or a sheet of plywood, or some other sheet material? Assemble on the bench and ...
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... grain size of ballast and other scenic materials. A woman's stocking can be used to control the application of powdery materials. I recently tried the Gravett technique of talc on wet gloss paint to simulate a tarmac surface with some success, although the texture can be vulnerable to subsequent unwanted abrasions. Getting the yard surface up to top of sleeper height has been a problem for me too. Since the track concerned is being constructed in situ I still have the option of applying Das clay or the like around the sleepers that have been glued in place before fixing chairs and rails to the sleepers. I suspect that trying to build up the ground after the rail is in place might well lead to unacceptable results. However, this particular project (part of my planned West Highland layout) has gone on the back burner with I grapple with the revival of a forty-year old layout, the trackwork on which was finished long ago. posted: 11 Aug 2018 07:43 from: Andrew Duncan Hello John Thanks for the pestle and mortar idea and yes ...
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... topic: 1885 gluing sleepers posted: 24 Mar 2012 18:34 from: julia What glue do people recommend for gluing rail to sleepers? Julia posted: 24 Mar 2012 19:12 from: Ian Allen I personally wouldn't recommend gluing rail directly to sleepers. Glue chairs to sleepers or solder rail to copper clad paxolin sleepers. Ian posted: 24 Mar 2012 19:18 from: Paul Boyd I would go along with Ian. Having said that though, I have heard of people gluing flat-bottom rail directly to sleepers to represent light railway practise, and I think Thixofix was suggested. Personally, if I was doing that I would use Loctite 435 plus the appropriate activator (no possibility of adjustment though!). I would also use Proto:87 spikes, and a bottle of whisky to take away the tedium posted: 24 Mar 2012 19:50 from: wcampbell23 Hi Julia You will get more useful advice if you could let us know what you are trying to achieve- scale, gauge, narrow gauge, type of ...
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... hint when I first tried to print. The O Gauge switch printout matches exactly the actual one that I built last week using the Fast Tracks Template. This company only has #6 or less frog sizes but I want to go to #11 or #12. Do you have a way to output a vector file of your drawings? I would like to be able to drive a CNC machine but they require vector files. What are the tricks and tips for building an actual switch using a template? I can see gluing ties (timbers) to the template but how does one hold all the track pieces in place and line them up with the template accurately? I can see that there might be a parallax issue when doing that. Am I overthinking the problems and it is actually easier than it looks? In actual construction how are the points filed? The Fast Tracks technique is to file the inner edge of the point to a sharp point. This however breaks through to the other side of the rail web leaving the rail head and ...
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... topic: 1300 Making slips using C&L components posted: 5 Dec 2010 08:22 from: roythebus A bit of advice needed here, having nearly finished my track plan, I've started building a double slip using C&L components in OO gauge. Is it recommended to use PCB sleepers in certain places such as under the K crossings as this would seem a weak spot, and it is difficult keeping things in alignment just using the C&L plastic chairs glued to plastic sleepers. Also, does anyone make a V crossing jig as I have to make about 50 for my layout and to use the ready made C&L units would be rather beyond my pocket! posted: 5 Dec 2010 13:06 from: JFS You can't solder rail directly to PCB sleepers as they will support the rails at a lower height than the chairs. I always use small brass or N/S strips to secure the different bits of rail which comprise the crossings. These can then be secured to the (plywood) sleepers using Exopy ...
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... can't stand the pong of butanone. I think Joe Brook-Smith's original riveted ply system still has a lot to be said for it. The Scalefour Society have just upgraded their supplies to precision laser-cut plywood instead of sheared strip. The great advantage of riveted ply is that you can get the track built, laid, tested, wired up and running, and only later add the cosmetic half-chairs at your leisure. If the rivet positioning is done carefully, the end result looks just the same as using glued chairs on plywood. Beginners can deal with any misplaced rivets by fettling them with the edge of a Dremel abrasive disc. Fitting the rivets to the timbers can be time consuming, but strangely satisfying. An alternative to the tubular rivets is to used single-sided Vero pins. These are a push fit in 1mm holes, so don't need closing underneath and can therefore be drilled and fitted with the timbers on the template. But they do need trimming underneath afterwards. I doubt they would hold in plywood, but are ...
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... &L) and Exactoscale chairs. The plain line is C&L. The S&C was all built on the work bench using the double sided tape on the printed templates method. All the crossings were prefabricated and are soldered to brass shims. For the Main Station Throat, sections of S&C up to 1,200 long were made up and sometimes laid as one piece. Baseboards are graded softwood framed and quite heavily constructed (will take my 6 ft weight without groaning) with 9mm marine ply covering glued and screwed down. Track base is 3mm sheet cork glued to the ply with Copydex, track is glued on to the cork again with Copydex. Overall alignment was achieved by spending two whole days very accurately drawing a 100mm centres grid over the entire baseboard and using this to position the Templot printouts for all the track. This allowed me to build different parts knowing it would all link up perfectly, thus I was able to build and lay all the S&C before the plain line. Electrical connections are via 0.7mm ...
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... fit to hold the rail. This was using wooden timbers, I'd imagine that plastic timbers would make an even more immovable bond. posted: 18 Apr 2018 11:12 from: Martin Wynne Raymond wrote: Year ago I tested out various glues. The best was Butatone, if the joint was properly made then when trying to pull them apart the jaws of the chair would fail before the joint to the timber failed and the chair is a tight enough fit to hold the rail. Hi Raymond, Rob is asking about gluing the chairs to the rail, not to the timbers. This is for the slide chairs where there is only one jaw. And other places such as bolted half-chairs in tandems, etc. The convention is to use superglue for that, but the problem is its short shelf life once opened -- just a few days usually for the (cheapo) low viscosity types. The thicker ones and gels last a bit longer. cheers, Martin. posted: 18 Apr 2018 13:09 from: Tony W ...
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... As a matter of interest, what are you using for track underlay? Nigel posted: 9 May 2017 15:17 from: Rick Nigel Brown wrote: Nice one. As a matter of interest, what are you using for track underlay? Nigel Hi Nigel: The layout is/will be handlaid code 83 rail on wood ties. The base of the layout is constructed of pine timber framework with 15mm construction-grade (cheap) plywood sheet cut as needed to support the roadbed. Roadbed is 5mm thick white foamboard glued down to the plywood and Templot plan sheets are glued to that with spray adhesive to stop the large paper plots from shrivelling when glued up. I have used the foamboard on a layout before with great success... it's relatively cheap compared to say cork sheet and gives a perfectly smooth surface for the ties. And it's very easy to work with a razorblade. so from top to bottom: rail->sleepers->Templot paper plots->foamboard->plywood. The Micro Engineering rail spikes are longer ...
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... ffffee"As there are no check rail chairs available in EM the method used is to have a check rail five chairs long. Three full chairs are put on the check rail and the detail cut off the top of the chair to allow them to slide under the running rail. The running rail is only fitted with two full chairs in the length opposite the checkrail and these are also modified to fit under the checkrail. The crossing flangeway gauge is used to set the check rail at the correct spacing and the five chairs glued down. Then five half chairs with keys are glued down at the outside where there are spaces (two on the check rail and three on the running rail. style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffee"The alternative is to fit nickel silver strips to gauge the check rail correctly to the running rail and then use half chairs on the outside. style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffee"Regards style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffee"John Arkell style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: # ...
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... topic: 2154 Ply sleepers with plastic chairs? posted: 6 Feb 2013 22:59 from: Richard_Jones Hi, Does anyone have experience of sticking C&L chairs to ply sleepers, and whether it is advisable to stain the sleepers first, or after gluing the chairs on? many thanks Richard posted: 6 Feb 2013 23:06 from: alan@york Yes, and they're very robust: I used cheap superglue which was only underneath the chairs, with no seepage. Strictly I used proper wood, rather than ply,- obechi, which is sold in the correct sizes for sleepers and timbers in 4mm. Try your local doll's house emporium. posted: 6 Feb 2013 23:47 from: mike47j I did not like the idea of doing this at first but it others said it worked OK, so I tried it. No problem. I use the C&L ply timber strip and chairs with lots of Butanone (plumbers plastic pipe cleaner) near an open window. I stain the ply with a dark oak wood ...
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... soon as the setting starts. Best Wishes, Howard. 21 Feb 2012 19:07 from: JFS Pierre wrote: By the way I hear a number of people say that Copydex smells of fish, which may be a bit off-putting. Only a very mild smell, not much worse than PVA, and it disappears as soon as the setting starts. Best Wishes, Howard. posted: 21 Feb 2012 22:07 from: Dellboy Thanks for your comments guys. I am already using a latex adhesive for gluing down my cork underlay and my track. One day in the not too distant future I will have to do some serious ballasting and there will be quite a lot of this so I am currently looking at different methods. The latex I am using is a commercial variety bought from a carpet dealer (much cheaper than Copydex). By the way I have not noticed any significant smell, fish or otherwise, from this and once set there is definitely no smell! With latex you get more than adequate strength and the ...
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... from: Paul Boyd Hi Simon So: can you gentlemen advise on glues you prefer to use? N-S rail to plastic base plate to ply. I haven't discounted having some etches done but then I'll be glueing N-S to brass to ply hopefully in one go. Is there a good glue for this application. I've had very good results with Loctite 435. I've used this to glue plastic slide chairs to N/S rail and ply timbers. Where I've subsequently needed to remove the slide chair, the glued remains need to be chiselled off... The usual couple of provisos- the surfaces need to be properly clean, and 435 isn't a gap filler so you need to have good mating surfaces. Neither should be a problem though. Oh, and keep the bottle in the fridge when not in use- it's not cheap and it's irritating (!) when 3/4 of the bottle goes off before you use it I would have one reservation about all glued construction, and that's to do with rail expansion- ...
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... topic: 2888 C&L Chairs on wooden sleepers posted: 18 Jun 2016 15:32 from: LSWRArt Many years ago I was with a S4 group in Cambridge and we built some track with chairs glued to wooden sleepers. It all looked great until the night before our first show when we decided to slop on some paint and thinners gunk to stain the sleepers. ALL the glue melted and we had a panicked hour trying to simultaneously re-gauge all the track and hold it in position while the gunk dried. So this time in 0 gauge I have been building track with C&L plastic chairs on wooden sleepers. To avoid the risk of the same problem I thought I would do it the other way round. I found some almost black wood dye and put a few coats on the sleepers and then glued the chairs down. It was fine for a few months then chairs started coming loose.At first I thought it was the glue not sticking to the plastic so I tried various different glues, none of which worked reliably, ...
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... despite the crossing being 6.75. I tried then just for interest a height comparison between 1.6mm pcb, chaired 1.5mm ply, and smp flexi. 3033_131653_060000000.jpg As you can all see, there are some definite "height issues" there! The difference between the flexi and the ply I can resolve by raising the flexi a bit for a meter or so I would imagine. The difference between the ply and the pcb looks huge, and I'm not at all sure how to resolve it. (don't worry, the chairs are not glued, and the timber is also temporary while I wait for the ones I need from C+ L). To round off an evening that had started so promisingly, I thought I'd quickly solder the vee. With my new soldering iron( http://www.maplin.co.uk/p /60w-mains-lcd-solder-station-a55kj). It was a disaster. I have only ever tried soldering wire before, but it normally goes fine, and I've soldered about 10 decoders into loco's without any problems. ...
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... attached the chairs to the sleepers on all but the centre 5 sleepers. I build the crossings on C&L 0.5mm copperclad strip. You can see I have pealed back the paper on one side of the crossing and cut both pieces of strip flush with the rails. I then superglue these two copperclad strips to their sleeper 982_260230_130000000.jpg I then do exactly the same to the other side, but leave the centre full length piece of copperclad intact whilst the superglue and chairs set fully 982_260235_590000000.jpg The half chairs that are fitted are super glued to the rails for added strength and glued using solvent to the sleepers, as I said I now let everything set thoroughly before repeating the process on the final copperclad strip I use the C&L 0.5mm strip out of convenience, any piece of strip metal 0.5mm thick or less would do. You could also use the strip between the sleepers so all chair parts are used, I feel this would look more visible than the method I have used Attachment: attach_1998_2577_points_107.jpeg 522 posted: 26 Nov 2014 21:25 from: ...
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... not looking for track 'bases'- i.e. laser cut sleeper forms. Rather just the 'inside' of a set of points as it were. As in- I hope- the attached png image Ah! It worked! Donald 1525_231149_250000000.png posted: 23 Nov 2009 17:47 from: Donald MacLean First off, Brian, thanks for your interest and speedy responses. To answer your questions. Yes- the object is to have form which can be positioned over the TemPlot printout on which the requisite copper clad sleepers have been glued down, and the vee crossing tacked to its set of copper clads. The template is positioned over the vee, and the outer stock rails snugged up against it and soldered to the remaining copper clad sleepers. The form is then removed for the fixing of the closure rails. [As I said in my first post I did this in OO back in the fifties] Secondly, I agree that there is an infinite number of possible combinations of crossing and curvatures. Which is why- and here you may have to ...
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... under the stock rails to keep the switch blades vertically aligned to the stock rails. The wires are soldered into holes drilled in the inner ends of these strips. This track was for street trackage so everything bar the rails would be hidden. For normal track you might want to make a less obvious joint to the underside of the switch blades. The TOU is made from Plastikard strip, a bit of 4mm PCB turnout timbering and some brass tube to be not too tight a fit on the brass wire. The lot is glued to a short bit of B&Q alloy section to allow mounting to the track base. The tube and wire gives the hinge action. This method allows you to fit scale cosmetic tiebars. Jim. posted: 12 Mar 2010 09:27 from: kenbec Jim said, Here's another method which might interest you- with the tiebar underneath the track base. This method is quite popular with a good few people. Ingenious and with care could be installed quite inconspicuously. I like the idea of the tubing which should ...
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