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101. Dale Junction (OOSF)
... . Thanks for your comments regarding the wallpaper. I think I shall abandon the this approach for the reason you have given and because of the issues I have found with flatness and vulnerability. I guess I am going back to the traditional cork sheets instead. Your comments about the templates are a worry. When building turnouts with copperclad I was able to remove the templates on completion of the build before fitting them to the baseboard. Ballasting was no problem.I have found though that the ply sleeper and chair method of construction does not produce the same same degree of stability when the templates are removed and distortion can easily be introduced. I am using balsa cement to secure the sleepers to the template and Butanone to secure the chairs to the sleepers. Is there a real problem ballasting with the templates in place? If so, is there a better way of construction on the template allowing easy removal? I have just received a bag of small chairs E4CH 203A from C&L which will reduce the amount of trimming required of some of the standard chairs. ...
102. Minories
... plan, with the turnouts on a curve. I think the curve may have to go down to 2.5' radius, just to give more room for the station and platforms. The initial question is what size turnouts did CJF use for the plan please I am thinking of the larger version S54 in the 1975 plan book. All thoughts and ideas are very welcome please Last edited on 28 Nov 2014 21:19 by Hayfield posted: 29 Nov 2014 12:08 from: Simon Dunkley I suspect the smallest that Peco then produced, i.e. 2' radius. I base this on the fact that they don't up much space on his drawings. It is possible to replace two of the turnouts with a single slip (you could have a double slip but one side would never be used) to add a degree of compression to the plan, but it changes some of the curvature slightly. Edit: rough sketch added. Attachment: attach_1999_2584_Minories_compress ed.png 1443 Last edited on 29 Nov 2014 12:33 by Simon Dunkley posted: 29 Nov 2014 12 ...
... ), but would like to get many more as detail is sparse for this period, and have the added problem of blitz damage during WW2 which drastically "changed" a lot of the buildings in and around New Street station from that time. Templot includes full customizing options for the switches, so the idea is that users create their own company templates from the prototype data. And hopefully share them around other users. I must get to grips with this customization for switches and look into it very carefully, and then start producing the correct template patterns. I would be only too happy to share any custom LNWR switches with other users once made, the Scalefour Society has a small variety of custom templates (not known if any are LNWR), that members have made over the years and added to, one might say, a kind of collection, but this source is very limited and only contains types of railway companies that the particular member was modelling at the time. I think they do have plans, or hopes, to extend the collection ...
... ingrained my expectations are for the way software 'should' work, and because of this, I made the first few days much harder on myself than they needed to be. It took me a quite ridiculous amount of time to get my head round the 'store and background' concept. Now, however, after having used it a bit, I have to say it's actually a very elegant solution for this particular way of working. As a professional, I'm always amazed when I see a piece of software like this that is produced as a labour of love, especially when it's done so amazingly well. All the time I've used it, I've not experienced a single glitch. Can't say that for ANY of the commercial software I've ever worked on- or bought. BUT... There is no but! No doubt as I learn more about prototype practice, I'm bound to come against problems I'm too dumb to resolve, but this post is really a massive thanks to Martin. Having been constantly disappointed at the layouts possible with off the shelf ...
... development, linked to widescreen monitor for desk use. In the next program update I have added a program sizing option so that the whole Templot program can be made a better fit on a tablet or a full monitor, to suit different users. That means the size of buttons and fonts, etc., it doesn't affect the track planning. I'm hoping to get it released before the end of this month. regards, Martin. posted: 8 Sep 2017 13:52 from: Andrew Howlett Martin, I've managed to produce a layout that I am 95% happy with. The new make slip function came at just the right moment, and I've had to set the text to maximum to get it back to where it was on the Surface Pro 4. I'll try and attach the box file. The station is loosely based on St. Agnes on the GWR Chacewater to Newquay line. The only station with only an island platform on a single track line that I could find. I have assumed the station to be on a line that ...
106. platforms
... have to do as you suggest. As you can imagine, the platform on the turnout side, or in some rare cases both, mainly occur in sidings and loading areas, in the case of my example, this was a siding to a carriage landing area of the station, and I do have other such sidings on the other side of the station known as the fish sidings, yet to be done. I will press on with investigating the platform feature, since my exercise yesterday was mainly to see if I could produce a viable DXF file for Autocad, which I might add, it did (absolutely great). I did use the 'length' function in platform, but did not use any other functions, will give those a tryout today and see what goodies they produce. Many thanks again for the help and guidance. All the best, Brian Nicholls. posted: 1 Nov 2011 14:34 from: Martin Wynne Gordon S wrote: I've been trying to work through the platform menu, but cannot get the hang of it ...
... or what the cause might be? All the best, Brian Nicholls. Attachment: attach_1051_1468_Diamond_Vee_Joggl e.gif 336 posted: 29 Apr 2011 09:41 from: Martin Wynne Hi Brian, The advice against going shorter than 1:4 applies only to turnouts. Shorter turnouts would normally be seen only for industrial and narrow-gauge use. There is a table of dimensions for such industrial turnouts at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/templot_forum.htm But diamond-crossings may often be shorter than 1:4, and most companies produced the appropriate parts and designs. Templot in 091c will go down to 1:2 crossing angle. In the next Pug I have reduced the limit to 1:1, although the results are less than perfect in some respects, especially timbering. I have relaxed the limit only to allow some special partial templates, it's not intended that a full 1:1 template should be usable in practice. More discussion about short diamond crossings here: topic 160 I don't think your problem with the broken wing rails is anything to ...
... topic: 1459 Laying out a station approach on curves posted: 17 Apr 2011 23:20 from: Rob Manchester Hello, What is the easiest way to produce a curving double track station approach when planning layouts based on Cyril Freezer's minories ideas? I am sure many of you are familiar with these types of plans. I have been trying this: Single length of plain track the length of the layout. Chop it up into 5 or 6 lengths. Curve each length of straight track and join them back up with F7. Looking good so far. Bring each length back into control in turn and make them into double track. I now have a nice sweeping double track layout. Still looking good. Now for some pointwork. This is where it goes wrong. Just inserting a turnout into one of the plain sections and making a simple crossover doesn't work most of the time as one or other of the turnouts goes over the end of the associated plain track section and produces a crossover to nowhere! It works fine of course if the ...
... will cause problems? I've also reworked the parallel roads to increase the track centres as suggested by Tony. Out of interest, how did you arrive at 53mm centres for 1067mm radius and 49mm centres for 2085mm radius? Is that by experiment or is there some formula or rule of thumb you use to calculate the track centres required? Julian Attachment: attach_1984_2555_MR_terminus_curve d_points_v4.box 331 posted: 26 Oct 2014 23:22 from: Tony W Hi Julian. The track spacing dimensions come from a versine formula from which I constructed a spreadsheet and produced the following table which was posted back in 2012 in a similar thread. 2151_201728_420000000.png I will have a look at your latest box file. Regards Tony. posted: 27 Oct 2014 20:40 from: Julian Gascoyne Tony That is excellent- really useful information. Thanks Julian posted: 27 Oct 2014 21:12 from: Julian Gascoyne Tony W wrote: I will have a look at your latest box file. Regards Tony. Tony I've just realised there is a mistake in the scissors crossover- by increasing the track ...
... topic: 2011 Understanding the docs posted: 10 Jul 2012 20:09 from: Martin Wynne This message has just been posted on the 3rd PlanIt email group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3rdPlanIt/message/33748 There are obvious echoes there for the Templot help docs. I've heard the same thing several times over the years -- "I can't learn by reading, I have to see it". That was one of the reasons I changed to creating the videos instead of producing more static tutorials. But that message is excellently written and perfectly clear. Far better in fact than the many garbled posted messages I see on some forums. I'm really puzzled how someone who says he can't understand the written word can write so clearly. Has it perhaps been written by someone else on his behalf? It doesn't read that way. What can I learn from this about the way forward for the updated Templot docs? regards, Martin. posted: 10 Jul 2012 20:15 from: JFS If I had to lay a ...
... Code 83 flat-bottomed rail. My plan is to use Colin Craig's components (such as the Pan11 baseplate) on the scenic section to replicate a small part of the electrified WCML in the 1990s. While emailing Colin he mentioned that a things such as interlaced sleepers are a big no-no for concrete sleeped track, which brings me to my question. Hidden fiddle yard track will be copperclad so it doesn't really matter what standard i use for that I guess! How can I get Templot to model the layout and produce the templates based around Code 83 flat bottomed rail on concrete sleepers? What do I need to changed, and indeed, is it actually possible? Are there any other differences to take into account that people can advise me about? Any help, pointers and general advice would be welcomed! I've used Templot and learnt how to do a couple of small layout designs but this one is more elaborate! Richie posted: 5 Oct 2017 07:53 from: Phil O Hi Richie Welcome to Templot Club. Yes it's possible ...
... degree of success but I'm not completely happy with the result. You can see clearly the dogleg at the double junction top centre left of the plan and I am wondering if there's a recognised way of dealing with this varying type of curve in Templot 2. The track is just 2 templates so far, and I've used a transition curves in both to get to this stage. I've been wondering if I need to split up the main lines into smaller sections to have greater control as the radii changes, or will that just produce more doglegs at every join? Any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks Andrew undefined 2787_031623_180000000.png posted: 4 Oct 2013 14:18 from: Phil O Hi Andrew I would would start a new template from about halfway between the double junction turnout and the cross over turnout and curve the template to about half way the curve and then geometry expanding transition to get a tangent with the existing curved template, the template may not be exactly over the drawing but the way it is drawn you will not get a smooth transition ...
113. glueing track
... P4 layouts I was involved with, the track was layed the traditional way, ie, a layer of PVA, track positioned and ballasted whilst still wet. One major drawback only became apparent when we started running trains, the noise transmission. When I started Green Street with the Central London Area Group (CLAG), we decided to investigate the causes of this and quickly came to the conclusion that any mechanical connection between the track and the baseboard allowed the sound to be transmitted to the latter. The most successful decoupling we produced was using one of our members pullovers as underlay, hardly practical! At the time Ray Hammond was using a different system of building his track on shellaced card which was then only fixed down to the baseboard along the edges, effectively a floating track system, which produced much quieter running. Inspired by this, we ellected to do something similar. 1/8th inch cork was glued to baseboard and a layer of 1/16th shellaced artist mounting board card cut to match the trackbed was lightly glued down along the edges ...
... as a Background template first so if you have selected a Background template to be the Control and repeatedly select it using Make the control, you will save a copy of it each time you Make it. I rarely use Make to control preferring instead to use Wipe to the control most of the time. The Background template will become the Control template whilst removing it from the Trackpad but leave it in the Storage box as an unused template. I suspect overuse of the Copy to control option is the most common cause of beginners producing multiple Background templates although it does seem to happen occasionally in other circumstances and I am not always sure why. When I find duplicate Background templates I prefer to find the lower numbered template/s in the storage box and click the Wipe from background button to remove it from the Trackpad (it then becomes unused) rather than Delete which is rather final. At the end of the session I save everything in the Storage box first then, if I have generated lots of Unused templates, in the Storage box, click ...
115. Minimum Radius
... quote 6.6 feet approx for the radius. Can you please explain Thanks Richard posted: 31 Aug 2010 10:36 from: Nigel Brown Hi Richard As you will have noticed, the turnout road is a complex mix of curves and straights; the minimum radius is the sharpest of these curves. The other radius sometimes quoted is the substitution radius, which is what you would have if you replaced the whole turnout road with a curve of constant radius. The substitution radius is the larger, and is intended as an aid to producing the overall design. The minimum radius is intended to give you an idea of whether your stock might have trouble running through the turnout. Cheers Nigel Last edited on 31 Aug 2010 10:37 by Nigel Brown posted: 31 Aug 2010 10:41 from: RichardTP Hi Nigel Thanks for that, not simple is it! So presumably if you want to try and maintain a 6foot minimum radius you have to go up to a B6, almost just to play safe Richard posted: 31 Aug 2010 12:18 from ...
116. Pug .91c
... 20:03 from: Chris Mitton Martin Wynne wrote: But note that you MUST NOT change to the Windows "Program Files" folder or any sub-folder of it. Hi Martin Why this restriction? It is news to the several layouts I've designed, one of them fairly complex and well into the construction phase, and all using C:\Program Files\Templot91. I like a tidy hard drive, so as Templot is a program it goes into Program Files and all the BOXs, BGSs and PDFs it produces go in D:\My Documents\Models\LayoutPlans (OK, I know they're not really documents but you get my gist). So far it's never missed a beat, which is more than can be said for some of Redmond's products. Regards Chris posted: 25 Jul 2010 20:45 from: Martin Wynne Chris Mitton wrote: But note that you MUST NOT change to the Windows "Program Files" folder or any sub-folder of it. Why this restriction? It is news to the several ...
... topic: 2346 Editing the box Title posted: 19 Nov 2013 16:48 from: Phil O Hi Martin I have produced a layout and saved it without any problems, but now I want to change it slightly and save it as a mark 2 version. I have gone into the storage box and edited the title to reflect that this is a mark 2 version, which it shows in the header but when I come to save all templates it reverts to the original title. Please see the png screen shot attached. 38_191147_080000000.png Cheers Phil posted: 19 Nov 2013 19:50 from: Martin Wynne Hi Phil, The suggested file name uses only the first 18 characters of the box title. This is to keep the file name to a sensible length when the date and time are added. Your box titles are identical for the first 18 characters, so they both produce the same file name. The solution is either to modify the title somewhere in the first 18 characters, try: "West Hoe Goods MK2 EM" or "West ...
... users will understand that meaning. I don't want to be endlessly explaining that there is nothing wrong with an irregular diamond. I was out and about this afternoon. I asked several people if I said something was irregular, would they think there was something wrong with it? Everyone said yes. regards, Martin. posted: 20 May 2010 21:50 from: John Preston Hi Martin Perhaps one of the term "asymmetrical", "unsymmetrical" or "non symmetrical" would suffice, as what is now in Templot produces only symmetrical diamonds. I strongly suspect the procedure would require two pieces of plain track crossing one another, with one or both of them curved to some degree. One would be the control template and a click on the other would require a selection from a menu smilar to the 'peg align' tools. (Just my uninformed speculation). Hope this helps. John posted: 20 May 2010 23:54 from: Nigel Brown Martin Wynne wrote: I was out and about this afternoon. I asked several people if ...
... pretty awful, so if anyone wants the MS Word version, please just ask. (I've only got the Word inbuilt PDF conversion tool) And yes, I'm pretty sure I've gone the long way around things, but I'd be grateful if someone could review it. Thanks Attachment: attach_785_1113_Irregular_Diamond _Help.pdf 627 Last edited on 27 Apr 2010 07:52 by richard_t posted: 27 Apr 2010 15:45 from: Scott Willis Richard There is no requirement for me to use an irregular diamond but thank you for taking the time to produce the guide, and share it with us. Material like this is always a great help, even if your not planning on producing exactly what is laid out in the guide. I find that you can somtimes use the same technique's to make different track formations. Regards Scott posted: 27 Apr 2010 18:02 from: Alan Turner Can I add my thanks as well. Whilst I am content just to work from the overlaping plain track templates you're clearly one who likes to go that extra bit. Your guide will ...
120. S-curve slewing
... line and then post a further explanation. Please ignore my previous message. What you want is very easy to do, see: http://www.templot.com/martweb/gs_geometry.htm#slewing slew_marks.gif regards, Martin. posted: 15 Dec 2013 00:32 from: Godfrey Earnshaw Hi Martin Thanks for your contribution but your slewing solution is what I am trying to avoid. As far as I can see slewing has no transition section between the reverse curves in the slewing zone. I want my track to be exactly like that produced by employing geometry>transition curve>S -Curve reverse transition. As you know this initially contains a positive and a negative curve separated by a transition section which has a gradual change of curvature. I want to be able to keep the radii equal (opposite signs) and the overall offset to a given value. Cheers Godders Last edited on 15 Dec 2013 00:33 by Godfrey Earnshaw posted: 15 Dec 2013 00:42 from: Martin Wynne Godfrey Earnshaw wrote: Thanks for your contribution but your slewing solution ...
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