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... B. That gives you a gradient of 65/5830= 1:90 gradient, and most of it on the straight. The gradient would then continue up to the hi-level fiddle yard at say 80mm above base. You gain some additional scenic space at each side -- how much depends how far back you move the whole set of fiddle yards. You could get a lot more scenic section by keeping the high-level tracks inside the low-level main lines on one or both sides, but that shortens the fiddle yard capacity. I widened out the main lines each side just to see how it looked. Just an idea. regards, Martin. posted: 18 Nov 2007 04:45 from: Martin Wynne Hi Richard, A further thought. Your existing boards have room for 3 bi-directional roads. With some tweaking of the design you might be able to fit a complete oval at the high-level, via a high-level track just outboard of the yellow ramp. This would give you a continuous ...
202. Strange crossover
... do want a crossover between widely spaced tracks. When Templot makes a crossover it uses long timbers up to the mid-point of the crossover for each turnout, which is normally what is required for typical double-track spacing. When the spacing is much wider than normal, this timbering result begins to look very odd, as you can see here. The answer is to make the crossover (to get the turnouts correctly positioned), and then to change the do> turnout road> setting back to normal, which shortens the turnout road back to the usual TVJP position (CTRL+ 6) on the end of the vee splice rail. Doing that for both turnouts leaves a gap between the turnouts, which you can fill with a short length of plain track. The length and radius of that track can be easily adjusted manually to fit. Usually you would want to follow that up with some timber shoving to tidy things up. Here's a short video showing how to create a curved crossover with the tracks at 25ft centres (100mm in ...
203. Video + audio
... In other words, at the CTRL-6 peg position. When we make a crossover between double-track, Templot changes this setting to crossover for both turnouts. This setting causes the turnout road to terminate at the mid-point of the currently-set track-spacing dimension. In other words, at the CTRL+ 5 peg position. This creates a crossover at the required track spacing with no overlap or gap in the middle. For the usual track spacing of double-track, changing to the crossover setting shortens the turnout road from the normal position. But when, as here, the tracks are more widely spaced, the crossover setting extends the turnout road beyond the normal position. Templot uses only long timbers when the crossover setting is in force, which produces the unsatisfactory result which we can see here. The solution is to change the setting back to normal for both turnouts, after making the crossover. Then we can insert a short length of plain track to link the turnouts. The third available option setting for the turnout ...
204. A few questions
... to the goods shed and cattle pens the are some very complex curves (we for me) to try and do in Templot. As you can see from the image that there are 3 curves that are throught the template. Hi Stuart, Thanks for posting your screenshot. Matching a background scan can be quite demanding. A good approach is to use F10 to create short bits of dummy template at intervals. Then you can use the make transition function to link them. They can then be deleted, and the transition template shortened or lengthened to replace them. Here's a Jing video showing that process on your plan: http://screencast.com/t /6I0UJgqVA2 regards, Martin. posted: 9 Dec 2007 04:15 from: Stuart Mitchell THANKS Martin.. That's got me going again.. Stuart Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> A few questions about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index ...
... sure about the fiddle as it is going to be using some peco standard code 75 curved points for ease& ready availble the front is just the pointwork issues as it will be copperclad the idea is right the dead siding on the left of the page is just a dead end branch the whole layout is based on Rosegrove Burnley as it is today the idea is that the layout is for running large scale length trains on a modern practice track layout. After Russ mentioned a curved layout i felt it may be possible then to shorten the size to 8ft x 8ft or 9ft by 9ft so its smaller more compact but still having good long trains. Thanks for the help so far its finally coming together. Simon. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> Anyone fancy doing my plan?? about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first- ...
206. Lengthening timbers
... :37 from: Martin Wynne Roderic Cameron wrote: You can only do this in the direction away from the timber numbering. This can be awkward if this is the direction you want to go (for instance to make a crossing timber extending over to the next track), especially if the adjacent track template also prevents you extending its sleepers in the other direction for the same reason. Is there a way round this? Hi Rod, Sure. Hold down the SHIFT key while you click the lengthen button. Ditto for shortening. This doesn't work when using the mouse actions for timber length, but in that case you can throw the timber first and then set the length afterwards. Ideally you use the buttons (or the L and S accelerator keys on them) for these adjustments so that you maintain the standard 6" increments in timber length sizes. The keys are faster. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> I ...
207. Pug version 091c
... customized template into an existing location. New option for the F6 curving mouse action to maintain the swing angle constant by adjusting the template length accordingly (constant-radius templates only, not transition curve templates). There are some Help notes about this at action> F6 curving options> menu options. New mouse action: adjust crossing entry straight for a regular-type V-crossing. action> mouse actions: real> adjust V-crossing entry straight menu item. Increasing the crossing entry straight is a convenient way to shorten a turnout without changing to a smaller turnout size. Previously this required the data to be entered manually, needing a lot of trial and error to get the desired result. The new mouse action makes it much easier to see what's happening. Unfortunately there are no keyboard shortcuts available to assign to this, so it's necessary to go into the menu. The gauge and scale> menu options on the workpad have been moved to the template menu, where they more logically belong. There is still a duplicate access via the ...
... Link As...) Here's a screenshot: slip_for_martyn.png You were doing fine. The next task was to adjust the slip road plain track (template no.6) to line up with the slip switch at the far end (template no. 5). That has to be done manually using the F4 and F6 mouse actions. I have done it for you in the new file. The tools> make slip road function is a little misleading in that regard. It doesn't do the whole job for you. It simply shortens the slip switch template to the end of the blade planing, and pegs on a length of plain track for use as a slip road. The task of adjusting that plain track to fit the actual formation you are building is left to you. For those uncertain about the meaning of "slip road", here's the digram from the tutorial: slip_road.png You now have a single slip. So your next job is to repeat the process and add the other slip road to form a double slip. Because this is a ...
... due to space. Dave posted: 4 Mar 2008 16:10 from: davelong Anyone had a chance to check my plan re: timbering? Dave posted: 5 Mar 2008 03:30 from: BeamEnds davelong wrote: Anyone had a chance to check my plan re: timbering? Dave ok- here's my attempt- probably being Mr. Picky sometimes.... 66 ST Sidings toe to slip- gap a bit big? 68 poss strteched a bit? maybe extra timber 32 ST siding 5 entery- naughty shortening of sleepers? double track "above" 39 BOC Point- spacing gone a bit awry? curve to strait transition on inner double to right of under bridge point- spacing (and alignment) gone wrong? 7 main line short curve spacing? rh end of traverser 9 spacing? Cheers Richard posted: 5 Mar 2008 03:59 from: davelong Hi Richard Thank you for your comments, the more nit picking the better. All understood, a few silly errors left in on my part. But not sure what ...
210. C+L Timber Spacing
... templates, or you have existing trackwork which has been built on C&L templates and want to include it in your track design. To preserve the shoved timber spacings do not mint from these templates (e.g. via the "quick set..." function).' Here is the screenshot: cl_00_equiv_screen.png Here is the B7 template printed out: cl_00_equiv_print.png These custom templates are for the 00-BF standard (16.5mm gauge). If you change them to 00-SF (16.2mm gauge) the lead lengths will shorten slightly and the templates will no longer exactly match the length of the original C&L templates. To change them to 00-SF without upsetting the other C&L customized settings, do this: 1. Click the template> gauge and scale> modify current settings> modify track gauge... menu item and change the track gauge to 16.2mm. 2. Click the template> gauge and scale> modify current settings> modify flangeway gap... menu item and change the flangeway gap to 1.0mm and ...
... i.e. 84" switch lead= 1:21 deflection). Switch rail and stock rail lengths: set to zero (i.e. the joint marks are omitted). Switch timber spacings: fixed generic. V-crossing: 1:6 curviform. Wing rail fronts span: 1 timber (all sizes). Vee rails span: 3 timbers (all sizes). Check rail working lengths: 48" (all sizes). edit: There is an error in the check rail settings. The flare lengths need shortening to properly check the crossing. regards, Martin. Parts of Templot Club may not function unless you enable JavaScript (also called Active Scripting) in your browser. Templot Club> Forums> Templot talk> video: Customizing narrow-gauge about Templot Club Templot Companion- User Guide- A-Z Index Templot Explained for beginners Please click: important information for new members and first-time visitors. indexing link for search engines back to top of page Please read this important note about copyright: Unless stated otherwise, all ...
... one just touch the tick marks at the end of the adjacent sleeper. Once you've got to the crossing you can go back and fettle them into place. Tip: Bonus timbers are automatically lined up properly for the main road, so I find it easiest to twist and throw the "T" timbers onto the turnout side while using the bonus timbers on the main side. Tip: Using the shortcut keys helps accuracy (these are the underlined letters on the shove timbers control, e.g. L for lengthen, S for shorten). You should now have a template similar to the following screenshot: Finish of the remaining timbers and you'll end up with an almost complete template (the guide templates have been removed in this picture): The only problem now is that the check rails are too long for this prototype. So fix this by using the real> customize V-crossing> wing and check rails... menu option and on second data entry screen, set the check lengths to 48, 78, 108 (the defaults are ...
... ? Thanks in advance for suggestions! posted: 27 Apr 2008 05:27 from: Martin Wynne russ wrote: I'm assuming it must be possible to do a template with checkrail on the inner rail of a curve? -but I haven't found a way of doing it yet. Hi Russ, Use approach track to a turnout as your plain track. Extend the turnout side check rail back into the approach track. You need to calculate the required length in prototype inches (or do some trial and error). Then shorten the template to show only the approach track (F4 mouse action). Here's a quick Jing video showing that: http://screencast.com/t /sCqws2uz That gets one end of the plain track. Put the peg at CTRL-9 and do make mirror on peg to get the other end. Here's another bit of Jing video showing that: http://screencast.com/t /0awuIDZ3h regards, Martin. posted: 27 Apr 2008 05:38 from: russ Thanks!, I'll have a go ...
... good condition for such an old switch design, which suggests re-use of old material on new timbers at some stage. Notice the 3/8" deep joggle in the stock rails. Much less pronounced than is often modelled. I will Gimp this later and see if we can get the crossing angle. 1:8 at a guess. Using these old loose-heel switches in Templot can often save you a lot of space over the REA flexible switches (A, B, C, etc.) by shortening the turnout. You don't have to model a working loose-heel if you don't want to -- just use the old geometry. Martin. posted: 2 May 2008 10:57 from: Peter Salathiel Hi Martin, Thanks for the photo of the 12ft loose-heel switch. It's always good to see what things are supposed to look like <g> I raed somewhere that the GWR often used old loose heel switches as the basis catch points when the new curved switches came into favour. Would I be ...
... diamond V's out is to move the 'main lines' closer together as the lines off to the right (being sidings) are wider than the minimum 6 feet. This would also help to remove the odd reverse curve in the top right point, which I only saw by squinting along a print-out after I'd posted it! It's slight, but it's there. One problem is that this whole assembly must fit into a 4 foot length, which it only just does. Moving the main lines might have the effect of shortening it slightly I think, which is to the good. The down side is that I just spent the best part of two days.... Still, it all adds to the learning curve, which ain't getting any flatter. I'm posting the layout .box file so that you can see where it all fits. Thanks. Phil Attachment: attach_287_465_st_margarets_08_06 _20_1320_30.box 506 posted: 20 Jun 2008 21:56 from: Jim Guthrie phileakins wrote: On way of moving the diamond V's out is to move the 'main lines' ...
216. Curved crossover
... track plan for you to check? Hi Alan, Sure. Please mail it to martin@templot.com Or alternatively you can attach it to a message here. I'm a bit puzzled by your statement that you are using curved crossings. Crossovers are normally created using regular or generic types of V-crossings. regards, Martin. posted: 12 Jul 2008 03:35 from: Martin Wynne Hi Alan, This week I have created a 7mm Finescale RH Point 2100 rad 1.9 C Generic. Adjacent track 87mm centre line spacing. Shorten turnout F4, Moved the fixing peg onto the TXP Point, Stored it to background, then rotate 178 degree could not do 180 absolute then went to curving and set rad -2100 and printed it out on A3 it look OK. What do you think? I don't understand why you are doing all that when Templot will do it all for you? Just click the tools> make crossover menu item as Nigel explained. Watch it happen at: http://www.templot.com/martweb/videos/flash/starter ...
... think you mean 180 degrees? I'm a daft buggar- of course. Hangs his head in shame... posted: 14 Jul 2008 03:41 from: Martin Wynne Ian Everett wrote: 2) Using an existing room 8' wide. Hi Ian, Something like this maybe? ian_room1.png The curves are approaching the limit for P4 but should be just about do-able with some gauge widening. Everything depends on what you want to run round them, of course. You could ease the radii a little by shortening the S-transition zone, but that might restrict the available length for the station throat. How long is this 8ft-wide room? regards, Martin. posted: 14 Jul 2008 03:55 from: John Lewis What you don't say is what sort of trains are you planning to run. The Great Bear and GWR 47xx 2-8 -0s may be less forgiving than if you are planning to run multiple units. John posted: 14 Jul 2008 04:14 from: Ian Everett The room is ...
... way out, you should remove the stock rail and correct the set bend angle. Don't try to correct the stock gauge by curving the rail, the section between the marks must be dead straight as shown. 10. If all is well, you can now fix the rail between the marks, checking with a straight-edge that it is dead straight. Then work forward over the curved section, aligning to the template and gauging from the crossing vee. For an A switch, the 29.3mm dimension between the marks is shortened to 22.0mm (i.e. the set angle is 1:24 for an A switch). The stock-gauge remains the same dimension as before. A bit of practice helps of course. Don't expect to get it perfect on your very first turnout. You will soon discover the importance of checking the rail against the template before starting to fix it down. 11. If you get it right you will find adding the switch blades later is dead easy. They will seat properly along the full length of the planing ...
219. My First Points
... is not currently set to an REA bullhead size, including disabling it for all FB, GWR and straight switch options. Comments welcome. regards, Martin. posted: 1 Feb 2011 18:56 from: BeamEnds Hi Martin, thanks for looking into it. The double slip check rails is probably a blunder on my part, I corrected them through the 'Real' menu with no problems. It may be worth mentioning that on the original Soddingham plan one of the slips would not play ball, only one check rail being shortened- the other steadfastly refused to cooperate. I actually spent some time last night looking at "Real->Customise.." and noticed the same- the numbers appear to be almost a random mix of possible ones. I don't know if this is relevant, but setting them all to default using'/' caused some frantic processing that stiffed my machine for about five minutes, and then had no effect. That could be something to do with Linux though, I would have expected others to have reported problems ...
... , ease the second radius out a fraction (F6). You can then close up the gap again by moving the transition zone down a little (SHIFT+ CTRL+ F3). Then swap the peg to the lower end and make the transition to template 68. Don't have the gap too wide, or the new transition zone will be too long and overlap the transition zone on template 69. After making the transition, you will want to move the peg on 69 back to the upper end so that you can shorten it (F4) to make a template boundary between the transition zones. regards, Martin. posted: 18 Feb 2011 23:07 from: Robert Preston Thanks Martin. That does the trick. I had tried moving the peg from one end to the other, but I hadn't thought of easing a radius on one template. Robert posted: 19 Feb 2011 07:02 from: Martin Wynne Robert Preston wrote: Oh, as a rider, is it possible to construct B6 slips in 00-SF? Or ...
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